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March 30, 2021, 06:00:57 AM
Pelicans vs Celtics is an interesting match up. One would expect Celtics to win but the previous 2 meeting have gone to Pelicans. Zion playing a crucial part in both the matches. It is going to be a close affair. who you got? Although Pre match odds favor Celtics but I think Pelicans might take it away.

You got it right, Pelicans snatched this game against the Celtics.

Even Tatum tried to lift this but they've got short in time, Pelicans again relied with Zion and Ingram both players provide good
numbers to carrythe team in winning this game. They improve also their stats if they'll keep winning, the rally chances of
moving to the next round is still possible for them.



Looks like Pelicans has been improving, they started winning and beating good teams. I think I like them to be in the playoffs because Zion seemed to be getting good help from his teammates, the transfer of Adams to this team was really a huge help.
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March 30, 2021, 05:41:09 AM
Pelicans vs Celtics is an interesting match up. One would expect Celtics to win but the previous 2 meeting have gone to Pelicans. Zion playing a crucial part in both the matches. It is going to be a close affair. who you got? Although Pre match odds favor Celtics but I think Pelicans might take it away.

You got it right, Pelicans snatched this game against the Celtics.

Even Tatum tried to lift this but they've got short in time, Pelicans again relied with Zion and Ingram both players provide good
numbers to carrythe team in winning this game. They improve also their stats if they'll keep winning, the rally chances of
moving to the next round is still possible for them.

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March 30, 2021, 03:17:49 AM
Why would I watch regular season and play-offs now? Salary cap used to have a meaning, now whole organisation is a joke.

As a long-time NBA enthusiast, you should be used to it.

It might be killing the competition but there are surprises. See how Miami Heat climb their way up in the last year's Finals upsetting those dominant ones? The Clippers who got wrecked by the Denver Nuggets is also one of a good example of a big upset in the last year's playoffs.

As for the Net's, yes they are now fully stacked but it doesn't mean they can't be beaten in a series.

And besides, as a bettor, we shouldn't take that as a big deal.
Exactly.
It just gives them the higher chance for a championship but it doesn't mean the winner had been announced or the NBA should stop at this moment because of the stars joining in one team.
Sure, the balance may seem to be off right now but they have their own strengths.
Nuggets is one which for me looks underrated.
It's not really about individual players on that team but because of their chemistry.
Suns also has a good chance to defeat the Nets team. The leadership of CP3 made a large change on them putting Ayton and Booker at a higher level of performance.
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March 30, 2021, 03:07:21 AM
Pelicans vs Celtics is an interesting match up. One would expect Celtics to win but the previous 2 meeting have gone to Pelicans. Zion playing a crucial part in both the matches. It is going to be a close affair. who you got? Although Pre match odds favor Celtics but I think Pelicans might take it away.
Well, not a good debut for Evan Fournier and it even makes an NBA history, totally not a good start for him and worst than that they can't even get the win and you got that the Pelicans take it away.
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March 30, 2021, 02:34:16 AM
Yes, everyone knows... LeBron James makes a LOT of difference in the team, and he is one of the most experienced players in the league!

Although Drummond is a little short for his position, but he is very dominant in the painted part of the court, and can get several rebounds


He has a very impressive stats, averaging 17 ppg and 13.5 TRB.. I think that will scare the other teams.
Drummond has finally found a championship team and he is expected to perform his best to help the Lakers in a back to back championship.

I'm sure Lebron is so happy now.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/drumman01.html
Yes, exactly!! We are almost sure that the NBA "finals" will be between Nets and Lakers if they find themselves in a possible WCF lol
Drummond is "only" 6-10 tall, imagine if he was 7ft or 7-1, he would be unstoppable!

I'm anxious to seeing the Nets and Lakers playing with their complete squad.

Their next match is April 11, so it's like two weeks from now. Hopefully that time we might see Lakers playing Drummond already, not sure if Lebron or Davis will be available that time. On the Nets side, maybe Kyrie is already playing as well.

So we will see, I think it will be one of the most anticipated match specially if those injured are playing by that time.
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March 29, 2021, 09:11:09 PM
...but still i do much prefer McGee and Howard on that position though but sadly they've change it out.

These 2 centers are nothing when we compared their stats to Andre Drummond last season and also this season.

Of course, we can't compare the two against Drummond.

Drummond is playing dominantly in defense in Cleveland while at the same time, contributing to the offense. McGee and Howard aren't like that and they already past their prime.  A good decision for the Lakers to release those 2 centers before the season starts as part of their bench improvement. Drummond will be an important key to the Lakers and I'm now excited to see how he will blend to Anthony Davis.

McGree and Howard are more of providing quality minutes for the Lakers that time, they don't need to score more, they just have to do their job. Similar to the Bulls before, no dominant center. Drummond on the other hand is the first or second option when he was in the Cavs. And now that he is joining Lebron James and Anthony Davis, he will be the 3rd or 4th options, so we don't know if he can have the same numbes.
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March 29, 2021, 08:05:17 PM
Pelicans vs Celtics is an interesting match up. One would expect Celtics to win but the previous 2 meeting have gone to Pelicans. Zion playing a crucial part in both the matches. It is going to be a close affair. who you got? Although Pre match odds favor Celtics but I think Pelicans might take it away.
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March 29, 2021, 07:15:45 PM
...but still i do much prefer McGee and Howard on that position though but sadly they've change it out.

These 2 centers are nothing when we compared their stats to Andre Drummond last season and also this season.

Drummond is playing dominantly in defense in Cleveland while at the same time, contributing to the offense. McGee and Howard aren't like that and they already past their prime.  A good decision for the Lakers to release those 2 centers before the season starts as part of their bench improvement. Drummond will be an important key to the Lakers and I'm now excited to see how he will blend to Anthony Davis.

I think we can argue that "if ain't broke, don't fix it" paradigm. I say Javale is having one of his best seasons with the Lakers, he no longer "Shaq-A-Fool" staple. While Howard showing his muscle specially in the playoffs. I guess though it boils down to the salary, that's why they have to let him go.

As for Drummond, he needs to adjust with two superstars on the roster, Bron and AD and him at center and then Harrell playing his usual spot. Gasol coming off the bench.
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March 29, 2021, 06:46:14 PM
...but still i do much prefer McGee and Howard on that position though but sadly they've change it out.

These 2 centers are nothing when we compared their stats to Andre Drummond last season and also this season.

Drummond is playing dominantly in defense in Cleveland while at the same time, contributing to the offense. McGee and Howard aren't like that and they already past their prime.  A good decision for the Lakers to release those 2 centers before the season starts as part of their bench improvement. Drummond will be an important key to the Lakers and I'm now excited to see how he will blend to Anthony Davis.
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March 29, 2021, 06:24:59 PM

Lakers were better off keeping both McGee and Howard in the offseason...

I look at Drummond as a slightly improved version of Tristan Thompson for LeBron in his days with the Cavs. Drummond can't shoot, atrocious fg% as a center considering he is only finishing inside at 47%. He will be a huge liability at the free-throw line with 58%. At least the Nets didn't get another body, other than that, he can up his orebs catching Pope and Kuzma's 3pt bricks.

Well, I somehow agree that McGee and Howard should have kept by the Lakers.
But, Drummond is also a good addition for the current Lakers line up. He's not slightly better than Tristan Thompson, he is much better compliment for LeBron and AD. I mean he has the size and the speed and could create his own shot easily in the paint, and rebounds better. Although he had a very terrible shooting percentage especially with the FT, but his presence would be a huge factor for the team. More offensive rebounder means more second chance points, plus Drummond is such a good defender.
One thing I noticed about the Lakers, is that they're building a defensive and physical roster.
They do already have that offensive power and i wont really be having any objections if they are focusing now on building a defensive or physical roster. Defense in the paint

and controlling rebound is one of the most important when tending to get the pace of the game.If other teams can beat up or cant contest between those defenders then that
would really be showing off some disadvantage.

but still i do much prefer McGee and Howard on that position though but sadly they've change it out.
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March 29, 2021, 05:59:29 PM
Yes, everyone knows... LeBron James makes a LOT of difference in the team, and he is one of the most experienced players in the league!

Although Drummond is a little short for his position, but he is very dominant in the painted part of the court, and can get several rebounds


He has a very impressive stats, averaging 17 ppg and 13.5 TRB.. I think that will scare the other teams.
Drummond has finally found a championship team and he is expected to perform his best to help the Lakers in a back to back championship.

I'm sure Lebron is so happy now.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/drumman01.html
Yes, exactly!! We are almost sure that the NBA "finals" will be between Nets and Lakers if they find themselves in a possible WCF lol
Drummond is "only" 6-10 tall, imagine if he was 7ft or 7-1, he would be unstoppable!

I'm anxious to seeing the Nets and Lakers playing with their complete squad.
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March 29, 2021, 05:40:25 PM
What is funny is that this two are not even veterans. Griffin was just 32 years old and Drummond is only 27 years old. they should be at their peak. And each of them salary should be at least $10 million per season.

Prime or what, they won't taste of being a champion on their former teams so they can't push for a demand of a high salary for the meantime.

Being teamed up by either Durant or Lebron is definitely increasing any player's chance to become a champion. If they are looking for more money, then they can simply ignore the offer and be contended on their respective teams.
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March 29, 2021, 05:33:30 PM
Lamarcus Aldridge to Brooklyn Nets and Andre Drummond to Los Angeles Lakers. Two big transfers in one day from East and West.
We know this seasons finals already, Nets vs. Lakers it's obvious. I'm against superteams in NBA, it kills competition. Why would I watch regular season and play-offs now? Salary cap used to have a meaning, now whole organisation is a joke.

What is funny is that this two are not even veterans. Griffin was just 32 years old and Drummond is only 27 years old. they should be at their peak. And each of them salary should be at least $10 million per season.

But Griffin's body is questionable though, I would say more of a wear and tear because of his 'high flying' ability, yes he can still dunk the ball, but unlike when he was injured free, he posterised a lot of players back then.

And the finals between Nets vs Lakers?, there are still competitions specially in the West side, so it won't be an obvious finals between the two, there could be surprises in the playoffs.
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March 29, 2021, 05:18:00 PM
I'd like to indicate that Jazz have been doing a great job lately. They have been winning 5 times in a row. And they are still leading the Western Conference.

They are gonna host Cavs tonight.

Jazz have been dominating their games against them in the last 6 head-to-heads. I wouldn't be surprised if we witness a similar scenario again.

I expect a nice and clear Jazz win.
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March 29, 2021, 05:11:02 PM
Why would I watch regular season and play-offs now? Salary cap used to have a meaning, now whole organisation is a joke.

As a long-time NBA enthusiast, you should be used to it.

It might be killing the competition but there are surprises. See how Miami Heat climb their way up in the last year's Finals upsetting those dominant ones? The Clippers who got wrecked by the Denver Nuggets is also one of a good example of a big upset in the last year's playoffs.

As for the Net's, yes they are now fully stacked but it doesn't mean they can't be beaten in a series.

And besides, as a bettor, we shouldn't take that as a big deal.
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March 29, 2021, 05:08:21 PM
Great news.
We will just need to wait for Davis and Lebron to come back.
Once they did, they might make it again at the top.
I believe that they can come back again at the top. Changes after one team and its roster is always the exciting part and with Drummond being in the Lakers, I saw that many were happy with his newfound home.

There's always a big doubt about Lebron for some fans and here we are those fans that always trusted him. But that's the question that we have to see once this season ends if they'll be able to defend their title.

There still a lot of games in current season and the fight for the top seed on Western conference is very close. I'm sure that they can get it once the LBJ and AD came back. IMHO, they will not target to get the top seed this season considering that the Big 2 is still injured. They will just make it into the playoffs since Championship is more important to them.
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March 29, 2021, 04:58:34 PM
Great news.
We will just need to wait for Davis and Lebron to come back.
Once they did, they might make it again at the top.
I believe that they can come back again at the top. Changes after one team and its roster is always the exciting part and with Drummond being in the Lakers, I saw that many were happy with his newfound home.

There's always a big doubt about Lebron for some fans and here we are those fans that always trusted him. But that's the question that we have to see once this season ends if they'll be able to defend their title.
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March 29, 2021, 04:38:25 PM
The Nets and Lakers literally did nothing.  If the Nets didn't have the players you think Blake and Aldridge sign with the nets no.   Its disappointing that the players want to form "super teams".  The only thing it intrigues is superficial fans not actual fans.  I know for a fact Nets will win the East so long as everyone is healthy...what is fun about that.  Players today are soft...they need a super team to go for a championship instead of getting there on their own.  As a knick fan I HOPE they never go this route.  I'd rather them be terrible for 20 more years than to just get the NBA all nba team on their team and win a chip..but maybe thats just me
You have to consider, why though? I mean Lakers right before Lebron came in (and even on his first year) were a terrible team that kept missing playoffs back to back for the longest time in its history, and then they got players and they won championship on the first playoff run in a long time, you have to realize that it's a big deal.

~snip~

Lebron came and in the first season they still missed the playoffs because he was injured for a while, and even if Lebron was healthy I still think that if they will ever make it to the playoffs,  they might not win the championship or even reach the NBA Finals.

It wasn't just Lebron who made this team a playoff team again, he also owned that to Anthony Davis as he was really the one who are putting a lot of effort to keep winning, its just sad that he is still injured now.

It's Lebron's 3 season with the Lakers, we don't know what the Lakers could achieve this season.
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March 29, 2021, 04:34:39 PM
Lamarcus Aldridge to Brooklyn Nets and Andre Drummond to Los Angeles Lakers. Two big transfers in one day from East and West.
We know this seasons finals already, Nets vs. Lakers it's obvious. I'm against superteams in NBA, it kills competition. Why would I watch regular season and play-offs now? Salary cap used to have a meaning, now whole organisation is a joke.

What is funny is that this two are not even veterans. Griffin was just 32 years old and Drummond is only 27 years old. they should be at their peak. And each of them salary should be at least $10 million per season.
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March 29, 2021, 01:23:39 PM
The Nets and Lakers literally did nothing.  If the Nets didn't have the players you think Blake and Aldridge sign with the nets no.   Its disappointing that the players want to form "super teams".  The only thing it intrigues is superficial fans not actual fans.  I know for a fact Nets will win the East so long as everyone is healthy...what is fun about that.  Players today are soft...they need a super team to go for a championship instead of getting there on their own.  As a knick fan I HOPE they never go this route.  I'd rather them be terrible for 20 more years than to just get the NBA all nba team on their team and win a chip..but maybe thats just me
You have to consider, why though? I mean Lakers right before Lebron came in (and even on his first year) were a terrible team that kept missing playoffs back to back for the longest time in its history, and then they got players and they won championship on the first playoff run in a long time, you have to realize that it's a big deal.

Nets on the other hand got two superstars and traded for a third one and now they are stacked. You may think that players built those teams, AD wanting to go to Lakers, Harden pushing for Nets trade, Irving and Durant getting together on Nets deal.

These may all look like things that players did and teams just got lucky but you have to realize in order to get these players teams would have to be good as well, not the roster but the front office, if you can pull these off you are actually doing something remarkable, why not Suns? Why not Kings? Look at clippers, they got Kawhi and PG13 and some other good players but lost to Denver. So, it's not as easy as it sounds.

Exactly this. Both the Lakers and the Nets put themselves in the position to sign a big star by building a good and prospect-laden team with cap space. That's a really tough ask. The Nets achieved this without draft picks, which is double impressive. One man's junk is another man's Joe Harris or Spencer Dinwiddie. The Lakers had a few really great drafts, getting solid players both at the top (Ingram, Randle, Russell) and the back end (Kuzma, Clarkson, Nance Jr, Zubac) of the draft. Their cap space did not magically appear, they needed to trade away assets to get it - but they still had enough to entice LeBron and swing a trade for AD. They didn't get their second star for free - gave up Ingram, Ball, Hart, the 4th pick, two other first round picks and a pick swap. Seriously, that's a king's ransom, not some discount market play.

I guess it's easier to whine than to take a long look at the decisions made by other front offices. Speaking of which, the Clippers will be paying Marcus Morris 16-17m till he's 35.

No idea if we'll get a rewind of the 2002 finals. Philly is extremely dangerous at full strength, Milwaukee too and it remains to be seen if Brooklyn can stay healthy and defend at a good enough level in the playoffs. In the West Utah is an extremely well functioning machine, Denver is dangerous and maybe the Clippers can get it together in some way shape or form.
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