Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 185. (Read 921780 times)

Perhaps too soon, but I think Jerry West would approve.. People saying that Jerry West chose to die rather than see the Boston Celtics win another title. 

Boston deserves it though. Tatum and Brown has been a long running experiment and I’m glad to see them get one. I think Minnesota is next up though.

Brown being better on this series doesn't really mean much because FMVP is not decided based on stats, it is basically voted by some people, and makes no sense to me neither but that's the truth. They could give it to al Horford if they want to, and nobody would be able to stop them. This may sound like a joke to you, and I understand why people may think that's not going to happen, and likely that it won't happen we know that.

However, it is not that far fetched, they didn't give Curry his first FMVP, not even to Klay or Draymond, that year they gave it to Iggy, that's basically like giving it to Horford this season, there is literally no difference. That's why FMVP doesn't really mean much to me, it is just a rigged thing that nobody should care.

And that was it, It was the Boston Celtics who got the lead in the 3rd quarter when the Dallas Mavericks were now having trouble with their offense while the Boston Celtics got theirs in a slow but sure manner, I also thought that the Dallas Mavericks would win this time but I was wrong Luka Doncic was short in this game and can not continue the game at the end, because he was fouled out in the 3rd game and making a bad decision and even though having crucial fouls he decided to make that defense to be fouled out and it was really that time that Dallas Mavericks having a great start and plunges to the bottom as Luka Doncic was out of the game and with this the Boston Celtics need only 1 more win to be the champion I hate to really say that but I don't really want Boston Celtics to win this season Championship.


What I have to say is back then the Boston Celtics had an easy way to get into the Finals Miami Heat didn't have Terry Rozier and Jimmy Butler, the whole game and the Cleaveland Cavaliers didn't have Ty Jerome, or Jarrett Allen, the whole game and  Donovan Mitchell in the last 2 games, and the Indian Pacers that doesn't have Bennedict Mathurin the whole game and Tyrese Haliburton in the last 2 games.

The Dallas Mavericks had a harder road getting into the finals so yeah the Dallas Mavericks will need a longer break for sure because they have faced the Los Angeles Clippers a team that is considered to be a threat getting into the finals the Oklahoma Thunders are pretty much insane and the Minnesota Timberwolves that have an immense skill with the defense and if not for Kyrie Irving stopping Anthony Edwards then the Wolves might get into the finals.

I like that the officials are not calling weak fouls but it must not wreck the game when there's a foul that needed to be called especially when the offensive player was forced to change his shooting form because of it.
I think the officials did not do great today, there's so many bad calls that should've been a let go, then there are weak calls that was called.
Consistency, that's their problem.
The Celtics might sweep the Mavericks this series but I hope the official will have a long meeting about all these questionable calls.

Many are disappointed.

And after that disappointment, the lost of hope was found to most of the Mavericks fans. As said in the history, no one has ever got back with a 0-3 standing.

That's why this is an acceptable lost for most fans of the Mavs because it's unlikely for them to bounce back unless some miracle happens but it's like 99.99% ring for the Celtics already.

Their first time together, that's fine. Celtics also suffered a defeat before in the NBA finals, and even got eliminated early the next season. At least Dallas had reach the NBA finals, it's already a big achievement for the team, and now that they've seen the current roster is not enough to win a championship, for sure next season there will be a huge adjustment and they will be better. 


You are not the only one, but we have the accept the reality, too much love for Dallas but this series is a mismatch.

I have to accept that Dallas is not going to win this Cup. Last night was their last chance but they lost again and the series is 3-0. Boston will win the last game or win one more game and become champions.
I'm really disappointed with this result.

A game of numbers in terms of FMVP, seems that Brown is more closer not unless if Tatum will bring out the best of him either in game 4 or game 5, but if they produced same numbers as how they are producing both now  I quess it's again Brown will win that FMVP.

Though for me, it's the title that's important and as duo whoever wins the FMVP they just need to support each other and keep that momentum it's been a long delay for these two young stars they already got their chance before I guess they'll not going to let this one to passed.

One more win and Boston will again be crown as world champion, it's been a long while and now they are closer to take it!

What happen to Luka is really big loss for Mavs since if he didn't get fouled out maybe they could able to change the outcome of the game. They starting to have a momentum but unfortunately he commit a mistake for trying to get a foul from Brown. Its so rare to see him get fouled out and maybe he's frustrated to much that's why he commit a lot of fouls in game 3.

They need to focus since if they let theirselves get frustrated on any actions that's not favor to them then provably that they might commit mistakes and Boston will take advantage on. But the game is done then I guess Mavs locker room is so pressured since it seems like they can do anything and Celtics is so strong for them.

They didn't contained Tatum's deadly shots.

The Dallas are more hungry this time but probably they're also accepting their faith that they are near to the end of this series.

A lot of Dallas Mavericks fans are sure disappointed with the game 3 and are likely gonna accept that they're already going to see the ring bearers for this season.

If this series goes to game 7 and Luka keeps producing the same excellent output then he can get the FMVP. But we're sensing a sweep or maybe 4-1 or 4-2 here. Besides, as shown in the stats, Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum are also doing good numbers although still not comparable to that of Luka. But it is what it is, the award most likely to the best player of the winning team.

As for who gets the FMVP between Brown and Tatum, I am favoring the former. Tatum has to stop taking lots of threes and drive his way to the basket if he wants to steal the FMVP. One more game and Boston might get the title.

Luka surely out of the picture for FMVP, We are just discussing about the potential FMVP for him if he averages 40+ point on every game even if Dallas the finals.

Totally Agree that Brown get this FMVP award. Tatum has less impact on finals while Brown always score whenever Boston needs it the most. They totally switch roles as my scorer since Tatum mostly does the 2nd corer role for Brown.

This games 3 is almost a win for Dallas if Luka didn’t foul out, they already have the momentum. Sucks to be FO on crucial time. If they get game 3 win then I guess they might force to tie the series.

I though they really have a good kick in on game 3 since they are showing good momentum on early quarters of that game. Also when they have a good run and turn the double digit lead to 2. But they didn't manage to handle their momentum so well when Luka got ejected so I guess this is totally done for Mavs and we could able to see that Celtics will take the championship next season.


I don't think Luka will be in that discussion since for sure the FMVP will in between Tatum and Brown. But I believe that Brown have more higher chance to get that achievement knowing how monstrous performance he always bring to give Celtics a huge advantage to win. I thought we will see a long series between Celtics and Dallas but guess Celtics will finish this series as earliest as they can.

Yeah, I think it will be Brown though, (I might be biased here), but in the Eastern conference finals, it was Brown who has declared the winner and he is really performing very well in the last 2 games. This could be his worst performance though, but still even though he has a bad shooting in the first half, he was able to recover and carry the team in the second half.

But then again, at least 1 win for the Mavs here, we don't want a boring finals series wherein it was a sweep. We can only hope that they can still win the next game and then we see how it goes.

It still depends on the performance of the other team despite Luka can do 40+ points per game since the impact of the players to win the game is the number 1 criteria which the panel is considering.

So even if Luka score with that monster stats his team is always behind by huge number while the other team like Jalen Brown score has a decent stats that gives huge factor to win the game make it Jalen more in favor to get the FMVP.

AFAIK, Only late Jerry West did that since he had a monster performance while carrying his team to game 7 which I doubt Luka can do now with 3-0 stats.

I agree with what Maslate wrote above, the FMVP award will go to either Tatum or Brown. If Luka had averaged 40-45+ points per game in this series, he could have been eligible for this award despite the loss. But as it is, the final series turned out to be kind of boring, i.e. without any intrigue. I mean, the Celtics took the Mavs too easy.

Yeah, it's just that the Celtics is too strong and too good for them. I think this is the game that that could have won, because they took a good lead in the first quarter and then remain consistent in the second quarter. But the Celtics found their rhythm on the third and I thought that it was over. But Dallas come back to the delight of the crowd and I thought that they can do it.

And we can't really deny that this is Boston time though, after their lost to the Warriors in 2022, they come back strong in 2024, having the best record in the NBA and now one win away from post era of Pierce, KG, Rondo and Ray Allen and win another championship.

I think it's unlikely to happen especially if Dallas will get swept. When the opposing team are not competitive, there's no chance their best player will win a Finals MVP. If we compared the individual record, of course Luka would have an upper hand as he has been carrying his team in the last 3 games, but the Celtics played great teamwork, so the NBA will just pick one of them.

IMO, this could only be between Brownd and Tatum.

So let's compare their statistics.
Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      1                 16      11            5
Brown      1                 22       6             2


Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      2                 18       9             12
Brown      2                 21       4             7

Name     Game         Points, Rebounds, Assist
Tatum      3                 31       6             5
Brown      3                 30       8             8
   

Celtics are just too good for the Dallas, they are full of shooters that Dallas could not stop. I've seen how they are confident in game 3, they are not hesitating their shots and that alone is already a big advantage for the team. Though Irving had bounce back from a bad scoring in game 1 and 2, but his points are hard earned, not easily looks but able to score. It's just unfortunate that Luka were fouled out after the Dallas had a great run, but it was too late for them, they can't play catch up against a team who have all the weapons to win.

It seems like the loss of KP does not affect the team negatively, in fact, they win the game easily.

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ohh... RIP to him too. People come and go but he'll be remembered as a legend in the NBA. About the FMVP on the losing team, I thought Lebron also won that but I confirmed he didn't he just almost won it in 2015.

But how about the Dallas vs Celtics, can Luka win the FMVP?

I predicted that the Mavericks would win in 7 games in this series, but I didn't expect that the Celtics will just dominate them, and we saw it in Game 3. Now I guess with this win, we pretty much know the outcome of this, right? No team lost after having a 3-0 lead in the playoffs.

I want to win the Celtics now not only because they're stronger against the Celtics in all aspects, but I want Bob Cousy to see the Celtics winning its 18th title before leaving the Earth. He said in one interview that he's 95 years old already, and he wants to see the Celtics winning another title. With one win away, I guess what he wants will became a reality, eh. The duo for both teams really stepped especially Tatum and Irving who played awfully in the first 2 games. In the end, the Mavericks just couldn't stop their three-point shooting as they shot 17/46 as for the Mavericks 9/25. Anyway, this is pretty much over already. Congratulations Boston Celtics in Advance.

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Just to add, I would like to say Rest in Peace to "The Logo" Jerry West who just passed away a few hours ago. I will not forget 2 things about him.
- His more than 3/4's buzzer beater shot, and the only player who won the Finals MVP despite his team losing. The 2nd achievement will stand alone in NBA history.