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Just funny though that in the beginning and if I still recall it correctly, some of us thinks that Wemby is just over hype rookie and we even put Chet above him for the rookie of the year as Chet is with a good team while Wemby's San Antonio is struggling.

But now we talk about his as DPOY which he is still a huge underdog against his country man @12.00, as compare to Gobert @1.02.

I guess we've seen him enough to say that he is no longer overrated as he has proved his skills already.

Maybe it has help him to play like he is expected to, the criticism he received made him better and now we are seeing the real beast in him. He is truly and Alien with a skills of an exceptional big man. he is still young, a lot of improvement he can do for himself and for his team, and as long as he keep himself healthy, the Spurs will likely be back to the playoffs again.

Odds now for DPOY, Gobert is still at the top, Wemby is next but not close.

https://www.covers.com/nba/nba-defensive-player-of-the-year-odds

I'm surprised to see Anthony Davis has fallen to number four on that list. He was an early favorite to win DPOY after a great start defensively and I thought he was keeping it going. He's even played in most of the games this season helping him shed the Street Clothes nickname. I might have to take another look at the stats because I thought Anthony Davis was going to have his year, but now it seems that Gobert is going to win it again... Not saying he doesn't deserve to win every year and his team is doing great, but I hoped we'd see a new name this year.

Gobert will likely win it as defense is only his main job to the team, compared to the other players below him which are Wemby, Adebayo and Davis who averaged 20 points more, Gobert only average 13.8 this season.

Adebayo 19.7 (rounded off to 20)
Wembanyama 21.2
Davis 24.6

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 04, 2024, 09:58:45 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on April 04, 2024, 09:49:14 AM

Just funny though that in the beginning and if I still recall it correctly, some of us thinks that Wemby is just over hype rookie and we even put Chet above him for the rookie of the year as Chet is with a good team while Wemby's San Antonio is struggling.

But now we talk about his as DPOY which he is still a huge underdog against his country man @12.00, as compare to Gobert @1.02.

I guess we've seen him enough to say that he is no longer overrated as he has proved his skills already.

Maybe it has help him to play like he is expected to, the criticism he received made him better and now we are seeing the real beast in him. He is truly and Alien with a skills of an exceptional big man. he is still young, a lot of improvement he can do for himself and for his team, and as long as he keep himself healthy, the Spurs will likely be back to the playoffs again.

Odds now for DPOY, Gobert is still at the top, Wemby is next but not close.

https://www.covers.com/nba/nba-defensive-player-of-the-year-odds

I'm surprised to see Anthony Davis has fallen to number four on that list. He was an early favorite to win DPOY after a great start defensively and I thought he was keeping it going. He's even played in most of the games this season helping him shed the Street Clothes nickname. I might have to take another look at the stats because I thought Anthony Davis was going to have his year, but now it seems that Gobert is going to win it again... Not saying he doesn't deserve to win every year and his team is doing great, but I hoped we'd see a new name this year.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 04, 2024, 09:49:14 AM

Just funny though that in the beginning and if I still recall it correctly, some of us thinks that Wemby is just over hype rookie and we even put Chet above him for the rookie of the year as Chet is with a good team while Wemby's San Antonio is struggling.

But now we talk about his as DPOY which he is still a huge underdog against his country man @12.00, as compare to Gobert @1.02.

I guess we've seen him enough to say that he is no longer overrated as he has proved his skills already.

Maybe it has help him to play like he is expected to, the criticism he received made him better and now we are seeing the real beast in him. He is truly and Alien with a skills of an exceptional big man. he is still young, a lot of improvement he can do for himself and for his team, and as long as he keep himself healthy, the Spurs will likely be back to the playoffs again.

Odds now for DPOY, Gobert is still at the top, Wemby is next but not close.

https://www.covers.com/nba/nba-defensive-player-of-the-year-odds

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Just funny though that in the beginning and if I still recall it correctly, some of us thinks that Wemby is just over hype rookie and we even put Chet above him for the rookie of the year as Chet is with a good team while Wemby's San Antonio is struggling.

But now we talk about his as DPOY which he is still a huge underdog against his country man @12.00, as compare to Gobert @1.02.

I guess we've seen him enough to say that he is no longer overrated as he has proved his skills already.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on April 03, 2024, 01:03:53 PM

Doncic deserves every bit of money that he gets, if he gets paid 70 million a year that would still be something that would not even be enough, but there is a cap of course because otherwise other players wouldn't get paid a lot. And not like Doncic is the type of player who would have a ton of endorsements, but a shoe deal must be in place by now and I bet that he is getting a lot there.

Salaries of NBA players will skyrocket soon enough, because we are going to see all these new salaries be this high, max that the bigger names will get could be huge, if they keep going of course. Like Curry could get insane amounts, Lebron would probably retire, but if not, he could see something huge as well, which is normal considering inflation.

Yes, I think inflation is the culprit, you know it is something that is always going to happen. Almost inevitable. As the price of everything goes up, players will also become more costly. And players will obviously also ask for more money.
So yes I agree that the cost is going to be more. However it is not something new. This has been happening for a long time, right?
The bad thing is this time the inflation looks to be more effective. And that's why people are freaking out a little too much.

I don't know how much is right for Luca Doncic. But I can agree that he is a very important player and he has a great impact on his team. So even if he is not worth the most in the world, he is still definitely worth a lot

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Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

Well, Wemby is a different kind of breed, and I guess LeBron recognised it the very first he saw the kid. That is the reason why LeBron called him Alien instead of a unicorn, because his size, ability, and talent is out of this world. Greatness recognizes greatness though.

Though honestly, I thought at one point that Chet was way better than Wemby, but I also had thoughts that Wemby may still have a lot of room to improve and once he started to dominate the league, he will for sure become more scarier than what everybody thought.

I think it's pretty normal for 7'4 tall and having that playing time. Anyway, given Wemby is really good. He just really needs help, like a great point guard who excels in passing, especially when inside. Also, I don't think Coach Pop is as good as before. Sometimes, it's also the coaching staff's fault why the Spurs often lose. They can destroy power teams the problem is they don't know how to maintain the momentum. I just hope that next season they find a way to get a great point guard and replace their coaching staff.

Coach Pop might not be replace as he brought a lot of success to the team, so most likely they will just wait for him to retire or give up the job. This team is still young, they aren't expected to be in the playoffs, but their experience this season is already enough for them to improve next season, and if they still fail, then I guess we can talk about determining what the problem is.

Wemby's first season, he'll win as the ROY and probably the defensive team award as his blocks average per game is just insane. I don't know if there's someone in the past that have achieve his average now on that area, so I guess he deserve that award too.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

It is impressive indeed. Same, I underestimated him and I thought he was just another hype like what happened to Zion Williamson in his first year.
Soon this young guy will have more steals than a lot of players in the league because he is also very good at it.
The funny thing is, I never dare to bet for player blocks in props for a long time, maybe I should try putting some for Wemby. 9 freaking blocks against the Nuggets, damn! + 23 points, 15 rebounds, and 8 assists, he almost got the quadruple-double again. I only see this kind of stats when I create a player in NBA 2k. Cheesy

They are right, Wemby is a cheat code.

The Nuggets won that game but I lost my bet due to the high spreads, that was some crazy performance he showcased out there in Ball Arena.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2024, 06:50:29 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

Well, Wemby is a different kind of breed, and I guess LeBron recognised it the very first he saw the kid. That is the reason why LeBron called him Alien instead of a unicorn, because his size, ability, and talent is out of this world. Greatness recognizes greatness though.

Though honestly, I thought at one point that Chet was way better than Wemby, but I also had thoughts that Wemby may still have a lot of room to improve and once he started to dominate the league, he will for sure become more scarier than what everybody thought.

I think it's pretty normal for 7'4 tall and having that playing time. Anyway, given Wemby is really good. He just really needs help, like a great point guard who excels in passing, especially when inside. Also, I don't think Coach Pop is as good as before. Sometimes, it's also the coaching staff's fault why the Spurs often lose. They can destroy power teams the problem is they don't know how to maintain the momentum. I just hope that next season they find a way to get a great point guard and replace their coaching staff.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

Ok and that's why in my Twitter feed, even Draymond Green says that Wemby should be the DPOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXlYHtHYLs

Yes, it was a impressive stats, not just he can block Wemby, but he can alter someone's shot and we have seen it a lot. Even in transition when someone has a clear path but then they see at their peripherals that Wemby is coming, they completely abandon that and just pass the ball. And if they take that chance they Wemby will most likely block the shots. But for sure his another French man has something to do say with that, Rudy Gobert.

By the time Wembanyama gets into a couple of year of his NBA there will be a whole lot of awards at his mercy to be honest, with all that he's pulled off just in his rookie season, It will take a really really long while before we get another talent like this.

I really don't know but then I just hope he'll get really good team (guys) that will transform this talent into multiple NBA rings and a beautiful basketball story, because MVPs, DPOYs, All NBA and All Star appearances will most definitely come consistently for him.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2024, 06:50:29 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

Well, Wemby is a different kind of breed, and I guess LeBron recognised it the very first he saw the kid. That is the reason why LeBron called him Alien instead of a unicorn, because his size, ability, and talent is out of this world. Greatness recognizes greatness though.

Though honestly, I thought at one point that Chet was way better than Wemby, but I also had thoughts that Wemby may still have a lot of room to improve and once he started to dominate the league, he will for sure become more scarier than what everybody thought.

Agree to that, he's not an ordinary 7ft player as his skills is really an upgrade for his class, I think if Spurs will bring teammates that will maximize his talents the way they did when David and Tim are playing with them, sorrounds him with squad that can utilize what he got for sure he will improve more and will continue to developed skills that will allow them to bring back the franchise's old glory!

As of now, individual stats wise Wemby already showing good numbers, the good thing for him it's just his first season and with that experienced for sure he will find ways to adjust and adopt what he needed to do to help his team.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

Well, Wemby is a different kind of breed, and I guess LeBron recognised it the very first he saw the kid. That is the reason why LeBron called him Alien instead of a unicorn, because his size, ability, and talent is out of this world. Greatness recognizes greatness though.

Though honestly, I thought at one point that Chet was way better than Wemby, but I also had thoughts that Wemby may still have a lot of room to improve and once he started to dominate the league, he will for sure become more scarier than what everybody thought.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

Ok and that's why in my Twitter feed, even Draymond Green says that Wemby should be the DPOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXlYHtHYLs

Yes, it was a impressive stats, not just he can block Wemby, but he can alter someone's shot and we have seen it a lot. Even in transition when someone has a clear path but then they see at their peripherals that Wemby is coming, they completely abandon that and just pass the ball. And if they take that chance they Wemby will most likely block the shots. But for sure his another French man has something to do say with that, Rudy Gobert.

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Quote from: EFS on April 03, 2024, 09:57:02 PM

Randomly surfing on the internet I just saw Malachi Flynn's crazy stats. He dropped 50 coming from the bench, this is the franchise record. It's more impressive when you think about his season stat is only 4.6 points per game. He's not a 6th man or a guy who gets too much playing time.
18/25 FG, 5/9 3PT, 9/12 FT. He's +14 while Duren is -25 and Ivey is -12.
Cunningham rested and other players shot bricks while Flynn shined alone. Pistons lost but it's not important, they tanked at the bottom anyway.

Yeah, crazy stuff for a bench players and then scoring 50 points, he will probably live with this numbers after he retire and it's hard to see who is going to follow that record. He was the 3rd players though, after Nick Anderson and Jamal Crawford.

And probably this record, 5.2 points per game for his career, has the lowest scoring average of any player with a 50-point game in NBA history. Anyhow, they are not going to make the play-in and tanking, they will have to wait for next season to try ang go improved.

I have no idea who this player is until I saw this topic that he produce 50 points vs the Hawks. Good for his stats as that would boost his numbers and most probably he'll be getting more minutes becacuse he showed what he can do. And the fact that they are against a team who treat games like extra important, that's very impressive of him.

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Quote from: EFS on April 03, 2024, 09:57:02 PM

Randomly surfing on the internet I just saw Malachi Flynn's crazy stats. He dropped 50 coming from the bench, this is the franchise record. It's more impressive when you think about his season stat is only 4.6 points per game. He's not a 6th man or a guy who gets too much playing time.
18/25 FG, 5/9 3PT, 9/12 FT. He's +14 while Duren is -25 and Ivey is -12.
Cunningham rested and other players shot bricks while Flynn shined alone. Pistons lost but it's not important, they tanked at the bottom anyway.

Yeah, crazy stuff for a bench players and then scoring 50 points, he will probably live with this numbers after he retire and it's hard to see who is going to follow that record. He was the 3rd players though, after Nick Anderson and Jamal Crawford.

And probably this record, 5.2 points per game for his career, has the lowest scoring average of any player with a 50-point game in NBA history. Anyhow, they are not going to make the play-in and tanking, they will have to wait for next season to try ang go improved.

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Quote from: EFS on April 03, 2024, 09:57:02 PM

Randomly surfing on the internet I just saw Malachi Flynn's crazy stats. He dropped 50 coming from the bench, this is the franchise record. It's more impressive when you think about his season stat is only 4.6 points per game. He's not a 6th man or a guy who gets too much playing time.
18/25 FG, 5/9 3PT, 9/12 FT. He's +14 while Duren is -25 and Ivey is -12.
Cunningham rested and other players shot bricks while Flynn shined alone. Pistons lost but it's not important, they tanked at the bottom anyway.

Good for him. That was probably the best night of his life. Maybe he will improve more after the game but it will be hard to get a significant playing time since they have Cade and Ivey. Nonetheless, this is his last season season and it might improve his chances of getting an extension or maybe the other teams will show interest of signing him.

In this game, the Hawks have officially secured at least a 10th spot in this season. They can still improve it at 9th spot for a home court advantage in the play-ins but it is unlikely that they can take the 8th spot especially that Joel Embiid has returned from injury.

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Randomly surfing on the internet I just saw Malachi Flynn's crazy stats. He dropped 50 coming from the bench, this is the franchise record. It's more impressive when you think about his season stat is only 4.6 points per game. He's not a 6th man or a guy who gets too much playing time.
18/25 FG, 5/9 3PT, 9/12 FT. He's +14 while Duren is -25 and Ivey is -12.
Cunningham rested and other players shot bricks while Flynn shined alone. Pistons lost but it's not important, they tanked at the bottom anyway.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 03, 2024, 04:40:24 PM

Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

He may be taking his progression in terms of taking his team into the NBA title slowly but he is not slacking in terms of his records and playing like how he used to in his high school season and this is good because he is not just making good progress but he also taking care of his body to get used to playing more intense games in the future. He should be playing like this and not making his priority too high this time until he no longer has the barrier of getting injured easily and by that time, he can dominate the league like how he should be. As of now, he is just still in the adoption process while taking care of himself without getting any serious career-threatening injuries.

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Speaking of individual statistics… I just read a crazy Wemby stat… It said that he already has more career blocks than over 86% of players in NBA history. Granted a lot of smaller position players don’t get a lot of blocks naturally, but I still thought it sounded incredibly impressive. I underestimated the kid.

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Stat wise and early in his career, yeah I would have to agree that Luka is better than Dirk at any statistical categories. But still though the barometer at least for me is to win 1 championship for the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, Dirk could have been surrounded by good team mates by that time, but they faces Lebron and Wade in the finals and it was Dirk who carried that team with his clutch fade away shot. And so if Doncic can do that against a stack up team like Celtics or the Bucks in the finals, then I would agree with Cuban. So for now, Doncic is great but he is not on that level yet with Dirk as far as what he brought to the City of Dallas in his era.

If we compare Dirk's stats for his entire career with Luka's stats, Luka is not better than him in all aspects. For example, their field goal percentage is the same, but Dirk's three-point and free throw percentage was better than Luka's now. Overall, I would say that Luka is a more versatile player than Dirk. However, that doesn't take away from the fact that Dirk was one of the best power forwards in NBA history, and he made a huge contribution to the Mavs franchise.

And Dirk probably one of the best power forward that changes the game itself. European that can shoot from the outside, we haven't seen that kind of players before and so Dirk revolutionized that position.

So really hard to compare, but then again, for us fans, its the championship that really counts and so far Luka hasn't give that to the Mavs franchise. It's that the Luka was really insane this season.

Anyone wasn't talking about Joel Embiid's comeback game against SGA led OKC and beat them?

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Quote from: TravelMug on April 03, 2024, 05:32:26 AM

Stat wise and early in his career, yeah I would have to agree that Luka is better than Dirk at any statistical categories. But still though the barometer at least for me is to win 1 championship for the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, Dirk could have been surrounded by good team mates by that time, but they faces Lebron and Wade in the finals and it was Dirk who carried that team with his clutch fade away shot. And so if Doncic can do that against a stack up team like Celtics or the Bucks in the finals, then I would agree with Cuban. So for now, Doncic is great but he is not on that level yet with Dirk as far as what he brought to the City of Dallas in his era.

If we compare Dirk's stats for his entire career with Luka's stats, Luka is not better than him in all aspects. For example, their field goal percentage is the same, but Dirk's three-point and free throw percentage was better than Luka's now. Overall, I would say that Luka is a more versatile player than Dirk. However, that doesn't take away from the fact that Dirk was one of the best power forwards in NBA history, and he made a huge contribution to the Mavs franchise.

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