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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 10, 2020, 02:20:05 AM

Despite's of Leonard success of bringing the team into championship and win the title, I can say that he is still an underrated player.
If people will be ask now who is their best player in the NBA, the names like Harden, Curry, James, and Westbrook will usually be the answer.

Maybe it's time for Leonard to prove again that he can win championship with his new team now.

What makes him underrated is the fact that when he won championship with the Spurs he had Duncan, Parker, and Manu. All of them were a hall of famer. Then, when he got in Toronto he won a championship again, not only because of him, It's because his teammates stepped up. Vanvleet, Siakam, and most of their teammates contributed to their success. Plus the Warriors had their worst post season with the Injuries. When Leonard left Toronto, nothing changes, they're still strong and intact.
But, I can't also deny that Leonard is one of the best in this era. Yes, he is underrated because of some reasons I mentioned above.
Remember when LeBron left Cleveland for the first time? When he Left Miami? Then, back to Cleveland, and then left Cleveland again. When he left, the organization automatically turns into a lottery team. That's what LeBron is different from Leonard.

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Quote from: Rosilito on May 10, 2020, 03:11:44 AM

Definitely, man. Problem here is that fans are taking the game as important as their feelings, well not bad for loving the player but the game ain't kind of personal bonds, he should play what the team needs otherwise doors are widely open for a deserving spots, might be harsh at some point but it is what it is. And if so, if Kuz can't play what he supposed to do, and barely contribute to the team objectives anymore then he must be send out in exchange of a player that can fill in what the team lacks off, it is for the good after all. And the boy might improved to his new team. Less drama, more chances of improving.

Oh yeah! that happens and the media will try to make it look like a big deal. The drama. Grin

But before Kuzma will be kicked out there, I hope he will show some tenacity showcasing his skills.
That way, he could get better offer. Money is still important and that boosts a lot of confidence for young players if they know they are paid well. Grin

Quote from: Rikafip on May 10, 2020, 05:13:32 AM

Bogdanovic is in Utah now, Pacers let him go last year as they didn't offer him contract

It may be because they think Oladipo will be in great shape after coming back.
Or, are they just not really in the goal of a championship?

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Quote from: Japinat on May 09, 2020, 04:46:42 AM

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.

That was good team indeed, that reached conference finals 2 times, and semifinals once, all those losses were against Miami, who were crazy good back then, with LeBron and Wade. Last few years they went out in the first round, and without Oladipo playing at previous level, this might happen this season as well.

If its Pacers, then it would be the Miller time or the East Finals team brawlers composed of Artest, Jackson, Jermaine. Grin

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 10, 2020, 04:17:34 AM

legendary NBA center Shaquille O'Neal says league leadership should cancel current nba season and prepare new nby season.
He believes that player safety is the most important.
Also, the disruption of the competition has disrupted everything and many players have fallen out of the competitive rhythm so the continuation of the competition could result in unexpected results.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/shaq-treba-otkazati-nba-sezonu-sto-ako-pobijedi-netko-tko-nije-trebao/2181759.aspx

With around 17-20 games remainig to finish the season, and for the playoffs to start may conclude over a couple of weeks/months. They can still have breaks after, till new season starts. So resetting it, would be a total waste of an effort for those teams, players and the entire organization on attaining their current spot. It ain't a problem to reset such season if the league haven't reach the half of total games a season has but this? Is kind of a thing that should not be approved, not even considering, IMO.

Talk about rhythm and so whatever it is. They can get it back with the remaining games plus an extensive practice but to lose their current record specially those in top list, and closest to clinching the playoffs is kind of a big deal.

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I think Clarkson's contract will expire this year, and with the way he played with the Jazz, I think a lot of team will be going for him, one of them might be the Lakers as they really need a good 2nd unit and Clarkson can lead that 2nd unit and give some explosion while James and Davis are resting.

He might be going nowhere except Jazz. He did better in his start though so I don't think Jazz with let that man go easily. Clarkson is kind of a player who's reliable off the bench. He is an asset, and with Conley playing rough a lot lately, he might switch off to Clarkson as a bench player, who knows he might get the spot for a starting line up. In addition, AFAIK, Clarkson is a candidate back then for NBA Sixth Man Of The Year.

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Quote from: Reid on May 09, 2020, 12:49:42 AM

I mean, they know they are strong in the defensive end but it needs to be balanced.
They want offense and Bogdanovic is the answer which caught a lot of attention.

Bogdanovic is in Utah now, Pacers let him go last year as they didn't offer him contract (rumour was that he would stay if Pacers matched offers from other teams, as he really liked the team) Probably they couldn't pay him and bring Brogdon, that was their priority, so Jazz got very good player for cheap price, and 18 million per year for 20 ppg (he had similar numbers in Pacers as well after Oladipo got injured)player is very good price in this inflated market. Salary cup might go down though, due all this corona mess.

Quote from: Japinat on May 09, 2020, 04:46:42 AM

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

I don't think that Pacers will go again for Bogdanovic, it wouldn't make sense to trade for him now since they let him go. First time i hear this Lakers - Bogdanovic thing, I had no idea that they are interested in him. Who would they give anyway as Jazz won't let him go easily, considering how good he is there.

Quote from: Japinat on May 09, 2020, 04:46:42 AM

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.

That was good team indeed, that reached conference finals 2 times, and semifinals once, all those losses were against Miami, who were crazy good back then, with LeBron and Wade. Last few years they went out in the first round, and without Oladipo playing at previous level, this might happen this season as well.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 10, 2020, 04:17:34 AM

legendary NBA center Shaquille O'Neal says league leadership should cancel current nba season and prepare new nby season.
He believes that player safety is the most important.
Also, the disruption of the competition has disrupted everything and many players have fallen out of the competitive rhythm so the continuation of the competition could result in unexpected results.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/shaq-treba-otkazati-nba-sezonu-sto-ako-pobijedi-netko-tko-nije-trebao/2181759.aspx

Easier to said that actually, but in the part of the owner, they are now thinking to survive or to at least get their loses. If the Vaccine will not be produce for at least a year, then is it safe to assume that there's no NBA for a year? I mean, Shaquille O'Neal is already talking about the next season, how sure he is that the vaccine will be available by that time?

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legendary NBA center Shaquille O'Neal says league leadership should cancel current nba season and prepare new nby season.
He believes that player safety is the most important.
Also, the disruption of the competition has disrupted everything and many players have fallen out of the competitive rhythm so the continuation of the competition could result in unexpected results.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/shaq-treba-otkazati-nba-sezonu-sto-ako-pobijedi-netko-tko-nije-trebao/2181759.aspx

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Quote from: Rosilito on May 10, 2020, 03:11:44 AM

Quote from: Reid on May 09, 2020, 11:32:06 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on May 09, 2020, 07:15:08 PM

That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

Good point.
Although there will be teams that would like Kuzma.
Yeah, I might take him in exchange of a role player.
He is young and can still be forged to a better player. Even a star someday. He have the height and good shooting percentage. Just lacking in strength and experience.

Look at Clarkson, thrown into different teams but still growing. Hard work pays off.

Definitely, man. Problem here is that fans are taking the game as important as their feelings, well not bad for loving the player but the game ain't kind of personal bonds, he should play what the team needs otherwise doors are widely open for a deserving spots, might be harsh at some point but it is what it is. And if so, if Kuz can't play what he supposed to do, and barely contribute to the team objectives anymore then he must be send out in exchange of a player that can fill in what the team lacks off, it is for the good after all. And the boy might improved to his new team. Less drama, more chances of improving.

I think Clarkson's contract will expire this year, and with the way he played with the Jazz, I think a lot of team will be going for him, one of them might be the Lakers as they really need a good 2nd unit and Clarkson can lead that 2nd unit and give some explosion while James and Davis are resting.

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Quote from: Reid on May 09, 2020, 11:32:06 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on May 09, 2020, 07:15:08 PM

That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

Good point.
Although there will be teams that would like Kuzma.
Yeah, I might take him in exchange of a role player.
He is young and can still be forged to a better player. Even a star someday. He have the height and good shooting percentage. Just lacking in strength and experience.

Look at Clarkson, thrown into different teams but still growing. Hard work pays off.

Definitely, man. Problem here is that fans are taking the game as important as their feelings, well not bad for loving the player but the game ain't kind of personal bonds, he should play what the team needs otherwise doors are widely open for a deserving spots, might be harsh at some point but it is what it is. And if so, if Kuz can't play what he supposed to do, and barely contribute to the team objectives anymore then he must be send out in exchange of a player that can fill in what the team lacks off, it is for the good after all. And the boy might improved to his new team. Less drama, more chances of improving.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 07, 2020, 07:15:41 PM

Just imagined if Sixers have a good backup on the bench and not just the team is revolving around Embiid and Simmons. They can likely dominate the East.

They can improve if they want but let's give that win to the Raptors, I also bet on the Sixers to win against that series but the Raptors are just the stronger team and they have a better chemistry than the Sixers, I admire that they trust Leonard and Leonard also trust his teammates, that's their secret to success.

That last shot of Kawhai gave them the revenge way back against AI, same with your opinion it's really the chemistry that brings the win for the Raptors
each players inside the court really contribute, Kawhai leads them the right way and players around him really play the role to help him.
Raptors deserve that win we seen that from how they've fought for the title.

Despite's of Leonard success of bringing the team into championship and win the title, I can say that he is still an underrated player.
If people will be ask now who is their best player in the NBA, the names like Harden, Curry, James, and Westbrook will usually be the answer.

Maybe it's time for Leonard to prove again that he can win championship with his new team now.

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Quote from: Sanitough on May 09, 2020, 07:15:08 PM

That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

Good point.
Although there will be teams that would like Kuzma.
Yeah, I might take him in exchange of a role player.
He is young and can still be forged to a better player. Even a star someday. He have the height and good shooting percentage. Just lacking in strength and experience.

Look at Clarkson, thrown into different teams but still growing. Hard work pays off.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on May 09, 2020, 12:58:57 PM

If somehow they can open the leagues back up very late, you guys think warriors would still play Curry and Klay if they are healed? I mean I don't know the exact time line on when they will be back, back in the day it was said that "closed out the season" and stuff like that but honestly the season would have been over anyway. So lets say the season gets back on track on July first, would they even play? Because there is no way they can go to playoffs now, they are waaaay bottom right now to ever make the playoffs, which means is there even a reason to play them even if they play? Maybe it could be for getting back in shape reasons, like put them on the bench and make them play like 12 minutes a game so they can get back in game shape and not be out for too long, but aside from that I do not see a reason for them to play honestly. That is even if league comes back this summer of course.

I reckon that it might be good for team and player to avoid risks for Curry. They are out of the playoffs irregardless hehehe.

In any case, who should be blamed for the coronavirus? NBA would be in the playoffs today if this did not spread.

With GS out of it and everyone not game ready (I dont care how much you train), there is no way you rush klay back. End the season and call it a day. Be interesting how it plays out though

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on May 09, 2020, 12:58:57 PM

If somehow they can open the leagues back up very late, you guys think warriors would still play Curry and Klay if they are healed? I mean I don't know the exact time line on when they will be back, back in the day it was said that "closed out the season" and stuff like that but honestly the season would have been over anyway. So lets say the season gets back on track on July first, would they even play? Because there is no way they can go to playoffs now, they are waaaay bottom right now to ever make the playoffs, which means is there even a reason to play them even if they play? Maybe it could be for getting back in shape reasons, like put them on the bench and make them play like 12 minutes a game so they can get back in game shape and not be out for too long, but aside from that I do not see a reason for them to play honestly. That is even if league comes back this summer of course.

I reckon that it might be good for team and player to avoid risks for Curry. They are out of the playoffs irregardless hehehe.

In any case, who should be blamed for the coronavirus? NBA would be in the playoffs today if this did not spread.

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Quote from: Oasisman on May 09, 2020, 07:49:19 PM

Quote from: Questat on May 08, 2020, 07:38:11 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on May 08, 2020, 06:41:22 AM

NBA might not be cancelled this year but it may not play sooner.

There is no need for a crowd to witness the game, as long its live that would be enough and it doesn't matter if we pay for it as long as we will see a real game.

That's what most us NBA fans are craving for. This lockdown is really killing us and bored af. We need something to entertain ourselves by watching our favorite sports live.
I really hope the NBA is pushing the season to continue. I have heard some of the facilities were open and ready to be use for the players. Tbh, that H.O.R.S.E challenge didn't really entertain me, I feel like I really need to watch the usual NBA action.
Of course, the NBA should consider some tight health security measures to avoid the spread inside the league.

We all agree to that, considering the health securities of both players and all those people involved around them, since chances that the league may proceed and resumes is there, the only thing right now is how the management can still gain profits if physical distancing still needed as the spread of this virus continue threatening everyone.

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Quote from: Questat on May 08, 2020, 07:38:11 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on May 08, 2020, 06:41:22 AM

NBA might not be cancelled this year but it may not play sooner.

There is no need for a crowd to witness the game, as long its live that would be enough and it doesn't matter if we pay for it as long as we will see a real game.

That's what most us NBA fans are craving for. This lockdown is really killing us and bored af. We need something to entertain ourselves by watching our favorite sports live.
I really hope the NBA is pushing the season to continue. I have heard some of the facilities were open and ready to be use for the players. Tbh, that H.O.R.S.E challenge didn't really entertain me, I feel like I really need to watch the usual NBA action.
Of course, the NBA should consider some tight health security measures to avoid the spread inside the league.

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Quote from: ultrloa on May 09, 2020, 06:07:57 PM

I as a fan will be upset if they will do this and trade for kuz anywhere since it means they cannot win by their own since they recruit other firepower to help them out.

That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

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Quote from: danherbias07 on May 09, 2020, 12:39:56 PM

Quote from: Japinat on May 09, 2020, 04:46:42 AM

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.

I don't think Lakers would want to add more in their roster. It might destroy the good chemistry which they are having now.
Pacers though will need an upgrade. Miles Turner might be practicing for his three's too but that won't be enough.
But they should consider that large amount of salary if they will take Bogdanovic.

They want to add more but the problem is their cap I think they limit some space but they have an option to with kuzma or together with KCP but I don't think they will pursue this since for sure those since provably Bagdanovic will remain on which team he is on right now.

I as a fan will be upset if they will do this and trade for kuz anywhere since it means they cannot win by their own since they recruit other firepower to help them out.

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Lakers do not really have the cap space to get Bogdanovic on a free agency situation. So, either Indiana gets him or there has to be a trade. And in a trade situation I see Lakers doing much better, they brought in AD and Lebron already, so the people around them could always change, doesn't matter who it is, so they could just send like Danny Green without batting an eye lash or could even package couple of other players or even picks. They are full on "win right now right away" mode, and they were even playing good enough for a title run as soon as this year before pandemic happened.

I am not saying they were good enough to be champions without trouble, they would have to play teams like Rockets, Clippers and so forth to go to finals and then east champions which I thought would be Bucks honestly.

But, to be that good AND add someone like Bogdanovic would worth a lot of picks if you ask me. Indiana couldn't afford to give what Lakers would be willing to give, but if Lakers find it too much, Pacers do have a chance but they do not have too much to offer that would help out Utah honestly.

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If somehow they can open the leagues back up very late, you guys think warriors would still play Curry and Klay if they are healed? I mean I don't know the exact time line on when they will be back, back in the day it was said that "closed out the season" and stuff like that but honestly the season would have been over anyway. So lets say the season gets back on track on July first, would they even play? Because there is no way they can go to playoffs now, they are waaaay bottom right now to ever make the playoffs, which means is there even a reason to play them even if they play? Maybe it could be for getting back in shape reasons, like put them on the bench and make them play like 12 minutes a game so they can get back in game shape and not be out for too long, but aside from that I do not see a reason for them to play honestly. That is even if league comes back this summer of course.

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Quote from: Japinat on May 09, 2020, 04:46:42 AM

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.

Also after Oladipo was injured. It was a devastating night. He just suddenly drop on the floor and hurting while chasing a fastbreak from the opposing team.

I don't think Lakers would want to add more in their roster. It might destroy the good chemistry which they are having now.
Pacers though will need an upgrade. Miles Turner might be practicing for his three's too but that won't be enough.
But they should consider that large amount of salary if they will take Bogdanovic.

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Quote from: Reid on May 09, 2020, 12:49:42 AM

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Quote from: Reid on May 08, 2020, 04:12:38 AM

Their defense is one of the top because of Turner and Sabonis. The missing part is fire power which was Oladipo before the injury.

They indeed need firepower, as this season they are only 22nd team per points scored (109.3 ppg), that's why I hoped last summer that they will somehow keep Bogdanovic, he was great there and fans loved him too. I guess they simply couldn't pay him, even though he wasn't that expensive (4 years/73 million) considering how good he is. Basically steal by Jazz, maybe even best free signing last year.

Oh crap I forgot about Bogdanovic.
Could this be the reason into why they want to release one of their stars?
They might be over their salary cap and just want to keep this firepower of them.

I mean, they know they are strong in the defensive end but it needs to be balanced.
They want offense and Bogdanovic is the answer which caught a lot of attention.

Hmm, so it is possible that theory will happen. A sacrifice that might make a better team.

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.

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