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legendary
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May 10, 2020, 03:17:34 AM
legendary NBA center Shaquille O'Neal says league leadership should cancel current nba season and prepare new nby season.
He believes that player safety is the most important.
Also, the disruption of the competition has disrupted everything and many players have fallen out of the competitive rhythm so the continuation of the competition could result in unexpected results.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/shaq-treba-otkazati-nba-sezonu-sto-ako-pobijedi-netko-tko-nije-trebao/2181759.aspx
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May 10, 2020, 02:48:43 AM
That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

Good point.
Although there will be teams that would like Kuzma.
Yeah, I might take him in exchange of a role player.
He is young and can still be forged to a better player. Even a star someday. He have the height and good shooting percentage. Just lacking in strength and experience.

Look at Clarkson, thrown into different teams but still growing. Hard work pays off.

Definitely, man. Problem here is that fans are taking the game as important as their feelings, well not bad for loving the player but the game ain't kind of personal bonds, he should play what the team needs otherwise doors are widely open for a deserving spots, might be harsh at some point but it is what it is. And if so, if Kuz can't play what he supposed to do, and barely contribute to the team objectives anymore then he must be send out in exchange of a player that can fill in what the team lacks off, it is for the good after all. And the boy might improved to his new team. Less drama, more chances of improving.

I think Clarkson's contract will expire this year, and with the way he played with the Jazz, I think a lot of team will be going for him, one of them might be the Lakers as they really need a good 2nd unit and Clarkson can lead that 2nd unit and give some explosion while James and Davis are resting.
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May 10, 2020, 02:11:44 AM
That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

Good point.
Although there will be teams that would like Kuzma.
Yeah, I might take him in exchange of a role player.
He is young and can still be forged to a better player. Even a star someday. He have the height and good shooting percentage. Just lacking in strength and experience.

Look at Clarkson, thrown into different teams but still growing. Hard work pays off.

Definitely, man. Problem here is that fans are taking the game as important as their feelings, well not bad for loving the player but the game ain't kind of personal bonds, he should play what the team needs otherwise doors are widely open for a deserving spots, might be harsh at some point but it is what it is. And if so, if Kuz can't play what he supposed to do, and barely contribute to the team objectives anymore then he must be send out in exchange of a player that can fill in what the team lacks off, it is for the good after all. And the boy might improved to his new team. Less drama, more chances of improving.
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May 10, 2020, 01:20:05 AM
Just imagined if Sixers have a good backup on the bench and not just the team is revolving around Embiid and Simmons. They can likely dominate the East.

They can improve if they want but let's give that win to the Raptors, I also bet on the Sixers to win against that series but the Raptors are just the stronger team and they have a better chemistry than the Sixers, I admire that they trust Leonard and Leonard also trust his teammates, that's their secret to success.
That last shot of Kawhai gave them the revenge way back against AI, same with your opinion it's really the chemistry that brings the win for the Raptors
each players inside the court really contribute, Kawhai leads them the right way and players around him really play the role to help him.
Raptors deserve that win we seen that from how they've fought for the title.


Despite's of Leonard success of bringing the team into championship and win the title, I can say that he is still an underrated player.
If people will be ask now who is their best player in the NBA, the names like Harden, Curry, James, and Westbrook will usually be the answer.

Maybe it's time for Leonard to prove again that he can win championship with his new team now.
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May 09, 2020, 10:32:06 PM
That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html

Good point.
Although there will be teams that would like Kuzma.
Yeah, I might take him in exchange of a role player.
He is young and can still be forged to a better player. Even a star someday. He have the height and good shooting percentage. Just lacking in strength and experience.

Look at Clarkson, thrown into different teams but still growing. Hard work pays off.
legendary
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May 09, 2020, 09:52:22 PM

 If somehow they can open the leagues back up very late, you guys think warriors would still play Curry and Klay if they are healed? I mean I don't know the exact time line on when they will be back, back in the day it was said that "closed out the season" and stuff like that but honestly the season would have been over anyway. So lets say the season gets back on track on July first, would they even play? Because there is no way they can go to playoffs now, they are waaaay bottom right now to ever make the playoffs, which means is there even a reason to play them even if they play? Maybe it could be for getting back in shape reasons, like put them on the bench and make them play like 12 minutes a game so they can get back in game shape and not be out for too long, but aside from that I do not see a reason for them to play honestly. That is even if league comes back this summer of course.

I reckon that it might be good for team and player to avoid risks for Curry. They are out of the playoffs irregardless hehehe.

In any case, who should be blamed for the coronavirus? NBA would be in the playoffs today if this did not spread.

With GS out of it and everyone not game ready (I dont care how much you train), there is no way you rush klay back.  End the season and call it a day.  Be interesting how it plays out though
legendary
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May 09, 2020, 08:38:08 PM

 If somehow they can open the leagues back up very late, you guys think warriors would still play Curry and Klay if they are healed? I mean I don't know the exact time line on when they will be back, back in the day it was said that "closed out the season" and stuff like that but honestly the season would have been over anyway. So lets say the season gets back on track on July first, would they even play? Because there is no way they can go to playoffs now, they are waaaay bottom right now to ever make the playoffs, which means is there even a reason to play them even if they play? Maybe it could be for getting back in shape reasons, like put them on the bench and make them play like 12 minutes a game so they can get back in game shape and not be out for too long, but aside from that I do not see a reason for them to play honestly. That is even if league comes back this summer of course.

I reckon that it might be good for team and player to avoid risks for Curry. They are out of the playoffs irregardless hehehe.

In any case, who should be blamed for the coronavirus? NBA would be in the playoffs today if this did not spread.
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May 09, 2020, 08:00:34 PM
NBA might not be cancelled this year but it may not play sooner.

There is no need for a crowd to witness the game, as long its live that would be enough and it doesn't matter if we pay for it as long as we will see a real game.

That's what most us NBA fans are craving for. This lockdown is really killing us and bored af. We need something to entertain ourselves by watching our favorite sports live.
I really hope the NBA is pushing the season to continue. I have heard some of the facilities were open and ready to be use for the players. Tbh, that H.O.R.S.E challenge didn't really entertain me, I feel like I really need to watch the usual NBA action.
Of course, the NBA should consider some tight health security measures to avoid the spread inside the league.
We all agree to that, considering the health securities of both players and all those people involved around them, since chances that the league may proceed and resumes is there, the only thing right now is how the management can still gain profits if physical distancing still needed as the spread of this virus continue threatening everyone.
hero member
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May 09, 2020, 06:49:19 PM
NBA might not be cancelled this year but it may not play sooner.

There is no need for a crowd to witness the game, as long its live that would be enough and it doesn't matter if we pay for it as long as we will see a real game.

That's what most us NBA fans are craving for. This lockdown is really killing us and bored af. We need something to entertain ourselves by watching our favorite sports live.
I really hope the NBA is pushing the season to continue. I have heard some of the facilities were open and ready to be use for the players. Tbh, that H.O.R.S.E challenge didn't really entertain me, I feel like I really need to watch the usual NBA action.
Of course, the NBA should consider some tight health security measures to avoid the spread inside the league.
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May 09, 2020, 06:15:08 PM
I as a fan will be upset if they will do this and trade for kuz anywhere since it means they cannot win by their own since they recruit other firepower to help them out.
That's basketball, no one stays forever in a team, if he is not as effective as expected, the team will look for a replace or probably to trade a player to get a player that they think will help to improve the team.

Kuzma's minutes have dropped and so his stats. maybe because he was injured and he is still finding a way to get back to normal or his old self
but the stats would never lie.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01.html
legendary
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May 09, 2020, 05:07:57 PM

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.


I don't think Lakers would want to add more in their roster. It might destroy the good chemistry which they are having now.
Pacers though will need an upgrade. Miles Turner might be practicing for his three's too but that won't be enough.
But they should consider that large amount of salary if they will take Bogdanovic.

They want to add more but the problem is their cap I think they limit some space but they have an option to with kuzma or together with KCP but I don't think they will pursue this since for sure those since provably Bagdanovic  will remain on which team he is on right now.

I as a fan will be upset if they will do this and trade for kuz anywhere since it means they cannot win by their own since they recruit other firepower to help them out.
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May 09, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
Lakers do not really have the cap space to get Bogdanovic on a free agency situation. So, either Indiana gets him or there has to be a trade. And in a trade situation I see Lakers doing much better, they brought in AD and Lebron already, so the people around them could always change, doesn't matter who it is, so they could just send like Danny Green without batting an eye lash or could even package couple of other players or even picks. They are full on "win right now right away" mode, and they were even playing good enough for a title run as soon as this year before pandemic happened.

I am not saying they were good enough to be champions without trouble, they would have to play teams like Rockets, Clippers and so forth to go to finals and then east champions which I thought would be Bucks honestly.

But, to be that good AND add someone like Bogdanovic would worth a lot of picks if you ask me. Indiana couldn't afford to give what Lakers would be willing to give, but if Lakers find it too much, Pacers do have a chance but they do not have too much to offer that would help out Utah honestly.
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May 09, 2020, 11:58:57 AM

 If somehow they can open the leagues back up very late, you guys think warriors would still play Curry and Klay if they are healed? I mean I don't know the exact time line on when they will be back, back in the day it was said that "closed out the season" and stuff like that but honestly the season would have been over anyway. So lets say the season gets back on track on July first, would they even play? Because there is no way they can go to playoffs now, they are waaaay bottom right now to ever make the playoffs, which means is there even a reason to play them even if they play? Maybe it could be for getting back in shape reasons, like put them on the bench and make them play like 12 minutes a game so they can get back in game shape and not be out for too long, but aside from that I do not see a reason for them to play honestly. That is even if league comes back this summer of course.
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May 09, 2020, 11:39:56 AM

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.

Also after Oladipo was injured. It was a devastating night. He just suddenly drop on the floor and hurting while chasing a fastbreak from the opposing team.

I don't think Lakers would want to add more in their roster. It might destroy the good chemistry which they are having now.
Pacers though will need an upgrade. Miles Turner might be practicing for his three's too but that won't be enough.
But they should consider that large amount of salary if they will take Bogdanovic.
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May 09, 2020, 03:46:42 AM
Their defense is one of the top because of Turner and Sabonis. The missing part is fire power which was Oladipo before the injury.
They indeed need firepower, as this season they are  only 22nd team per points scored (109.3 ppg), that's why I hoped last summer that they will somehow  keep Bogdanovic, he was great there and fans loved him too. I guess they simply couldn't pay him, even though he wasn't that expensive (4 years/73 million) considering how good he is. Basically steal by Jazz, maybe even best free signing last year.

Oh crap I forgot about Bogdanovic.
Could this be the reason into why they want to release one of their stars?
They might be over their salary cap and just want to keep this firepower of them.

I mean, they know they are strong in the defensive end but it needs to be balanced.
They want offense and Bogdanovic is the answer which caught a lot of attention.

Hmm, so it is possible that theory will happen. A sacrifice that might make a better team.

If they'll be able to get Bogdanović that would be a great decision by the team, I think the Lakers are also interested with him, so let's see who will get him first, but the Lakers are already a good team so I hope Pacers will be able to improve if they can get Bogdanović.

Pacers hasn't been an exciting team anymore, the last time I remember they were really competing was during the time of PG, David West, Hibbert, George Hill, and Lance Stephenson.
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May 08, 2020, 11:49:42 PM
Their defense is one of the top because of Turner and Sabonis. The missing part is fire power which was Oladipo before the injury.
They indeed need firepower, as this season they are  only 22nd team per points scored (109.3 ppg), that's why I hoped last summer that they will somehow  keep Bogdanovic, he was great there and fans loved him too. I guess they simply couldn't pay him, even though he wasn't that expensive (4 years/73 million) considering how good he is. Basically steal by Jazz, maybe even best free signing last year.

Oh crap I forgot about Bogdanovic.
Could this be the reason into why they want to release one of their stars?
They might be over their salary cap and just want to keep this firepower of them.

I mean, they know they are strong in the defensive end but it needs to be balanced.
They want offense and Bogdanovic is the answer which caught a lot of attention.

Hmm, so it is possible that theory will happen. A sacrifice that might make a better team.
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May 08, 2020, 05:49:33 PM
NBA might not be cancelled this year but it may not play sooner.
We will see it by the half quarter of this year if this crisis is solved or not. There can be an alternative for them and the two actual teams will be just the ones that will be present for that game and no audience and crowd.
But, I don't think that NBA will sacrifice that because that's how they make money for each game.

They will be losing billions of dollars if they will cancel the season, they might just continue with the measures they will have to impose, no fans, it doesn't matter, they will be in live TV, that's still NBA. What would happen to the millions of contract the players will receive or entitled during this year if the season will be cancelled, I think they are also think about that, and how about those endorsers who have already paid the players,  a lot of things will be sacrifice if they will cancel the season, so I think they are making something to resume soon.
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May 08, 2020, 05:20:26 PM

 The problem with lockdown season is there is usually a lockdown salary as well. If players only play 60 games next season they are going to get paid for 60 games. So they are trying to figure out a way that will help them get 82 games a season in order for both the owners to make the most money while players get the most money as well (and technically we get the most fun too). So if they do end up this season and do a short season for next year, they will not get the most out of it.

 However idea stands, they could start the season at first, finish early december, start back again on january, and finish august instead, and they could go back to starting on october again and just become normal after that, it only screws up next year and after that it recovers like nothing happened. Would players be more tired? Sure. But they would at least be safer and they would still make the most amount of money. That seems to be the only method that players could be both safe and also rich, all other methods they consider are either riskier or less money.
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May 08, 2020, 03:40:41 PM
I think they could still combine it with next year and somehow make it work but I have never seen that talked anywhere at all. Remember the fact that we had many lockdown seasons, players can basically decline to play whenever they want and they get a lockdown and suddenly they play like a 60 game season or whatever or 50 game season and what not, this has happened before and it happened couple times as well not just once.

So, all they have to do is wait until all of this is over, and by the start of September on first day just start the league back up, play 20 games in about 2 months, and play the playoffs probably at the same times as well because that is usually already quick, which gives them about 3 months, which is around December. Start the new season on January give the players December as a break, and instead of ending at April, make them play 50-60 games and end in June instead. This could totally work if they even consider it.
legendary
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May 08, 2020, 12:42:52 PM
A healthy Oladipo. That is the crucial question about the Pacers.
If only that injury didn't happen they could one of the top contenders in the East.
Yep, with him healthy and with Brodgon, Sabonis and Turner playing like this, they would be legit contenders. But question is do Pacers believe that he will be able fully recover from injury and play at previous All Star level? Rumour is that they offered him 4years/80 million contract, and he naturally snubbed it as it is even smaller than his current one. I must say that's a bit weird offer, like they don't really believe that he can play at previous level, or maybe they are just testing the ground. Oladipo supposed to be their franchise player, and even if they trade him, who can they get for him. Worst case scenario is they let him go, but since they are small market team, I don't see them attracting some big star.


Their defense is one of the top because of Turner and Sabonis. The missing part is fire power which was Oladipo before the injury.
They indeed need firepower, as this season they are  only 22nd team per points scored (109.3 ppg), that's why I hoped last summer that they will somehow  keep Bogdanovic, he was great there and fans loved him too. I guess they simply couldn't pay him, even though he wasn't that expensive (4 years/73 million) considering how good he is. Basically steal by Jazz, maybe even best free signing last year.


Watched CNN just now and they are letting Portland Trail Blazers to have some practice provided 4 players only with social distancing.
Step into right direction I would say.
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