I rarely participated or involved in a GOAT discussion since honestly, it's not making sense to me.
But why should we have a GOAT debate in the first place? How important it is?
Who's the GOAT is based on own people's view. Meaning not in general since every people have different standards.
These players are played on different era, different competition, different styles, different roles, different everything etc. Jordan itself stated that no such thing as GOAT being him as there are other top players he doesn't have a chance to met on the court.
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So lets see the league is almost over and west playoff tree is still not decided but if it ends like today than the follow will happen.
Warriors will face clippers, which warriors will win, than Denver will face spurs which I think is an incredibly challenging game for both sides, Denver is the better team as we can see from second place but at the same time they have no playoff experience so given 7 game series anything could happen.
Rockets will face thunder which I believe rockets will breeze through and blazers will play jazz which I think gonna be the biggest no idea series out there, nobody knows which one is better, if Nurkic was there I would assume blazers but without Nurkic its definitely up for grabs. So warriors vs blazers/jazz winner and rockets vs spurs/nuggets winner, if you look at it like that I think its safe to assume its gonna be another rockets vs warriors this year.
Warriors will face clippers, which warriors will win, than Denver will face spurs which I think is an incredibly challenging game for both sides, Denver is the better team as we can see from second place but at the same time they have no playoff experience so given 7 game series anything could happen.
Rockets will face thunder which I believe rockets will breeze through and blazers will play jazz which I think gonna be the biggest no idea series out there, nobody knows which one is better, if Nurkic was there I would assume blazers but without Nurkic its definitely up for grabs. So warriors vs blazers/jazz winner and rockets vs spurs/nuggets winner, if you look at it like that I think its safe to assume its gonna be another rockets vs warriors this year.
I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time. Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships. Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen. James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
Everyone has a different opinion about think and it's pretty hard to compare both of them since they have never played together in the same league. Jordan played in a different period, with different players, team and rules and that's why it's extremely hard to say which one is the best. 
Anyone seen this news?
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
No doubt about that. Jordan was a legend and although Lebron is quite good, he is a few miles behind Jordan. Too bad that lifetime earnings for Jordan may not match with those of LBJ.
I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time. Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships. Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen. James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
How about Lebron playing with Kyrie, Dwade and Bosh though? Those are great players in my opinion as compare to Jordan's who got Scottie and lots of role players?Yeah i don't even know why there's even that kind of comparison. Lebron literally had to persuade all stars to join him to get his rings. Another thing about these two is that not once did you see mj give up on his team mates. Much respect to lebron but what he showed towards the end of this season with the young lakers, not playing defense, the usual finger pointing, obviously distancing himself, all these puts him way behind michael jordan.
I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time. Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships. Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen. James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
One thing a lot of fans and analysts tend to forget about seeing who is the greatest of all time is the level of competition during their era. If you look at it you will see that Jordan's era cannot be considered as competitive compared to what we have now, before you will only see a few star players and a few role players doing a good job in the league. Now you will see a lot of them doing good in the league. It has been said before and has become highly debated that dominant players in other eras might not be dominant at all if they played in this current generation. 
Anyone seen this news?
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
Yep, sure he is the GOAT. But, since I'm born where LeBron is reigning(since MJ is not playing anymore), I will vote on LeBron. MJ is a really great player, he can carry you for long stretches, so as LeBron. MJ played with Scottie Pippen and Rodman while LeBron played with Kyrie and Love. I don't watch any games fully for MJ but I'm watching some of his plays. I don't know what is the judging criteria for GOAT but I think both of them deserves to be one. https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
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Here’s how 117 NBA players responded:
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time. Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships. Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen. James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
How about Lebron playing with Kyrie, Dwade and Bosh though? Those are great players in my opinion as compare to Jordan's who got Scottie and lots of role players? 
I would put lebron as the greatest player of all time. Jordan is overrated because of his 6 championships. Lebron never played with a player as good as Scottie Pippen. James is a better overall player than Jordan and is a much better athlete as well.
Any seen this news?
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
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Here’s how 117 NBA players responded:
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
Well even NBA fans will also attest the Michael Jordan is still the best of all time. I guess we should have our own version of this one and see how many believed that Jordan and not Lebron is still the GOAT. Making a comeback and winning a championship doesn't make Lebron the greatest (this is his argument), winning championships and rings and carrying your team even if you are sick
still holds a lot of weight for being basketball's GOAT.
Any seen this news?
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
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Here’s how 117 NBA players responded:
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
Well even NBA fans will also attest the Michael Jordan is still the best of all time. I guess we should have our own version of this one and see how many believed that Jordan and not Lebron is still the GOAT. Making a comeback and winning a championship doesn't make Lebron the greatest (this is his argument), winning championships and rings and carrying your team even if you are sick
still holds a lot of weight for being basketball's GOAT.
Anyone seen this news?
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/anonymous-poll-of-nba-players-has-lebron-far-behind-jordan-in-goat-debate/
Quote
Here’s how 117 NBA players responded:
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
7. Who’s the best player of all time?
(117 votes)
Michael Jordan (73%)
LeBron James (11.9%)
Kobe Bryant (10.6%)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1.7%)
Magic Johnson, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant (1%)
It seems that Jordan is still the GOAT. Lebron is a far cry in second place. So it's a unanimous decision for NBA players as to who is the best player of all time.
Though, I'd like to see if Giannis could stop KD. But I think Giannis did slow down KD last time but the splash brothers did there thing. This season is quite interesting, First is that Lebron will not be playing in the PO and the teams in the East are really putting up a show.
I'm going to bet on the Bucks if they will face with the warriors in the NBA finals.
Bucks knows how to beat the warriors, and they have the best record in the league, so it's going to be a big advantage for them in terms of home court.
I hope to see Giannis playing amazingly in this match and defeat Warriors and especially KD.
It will be a difficult game because Warriors team is always a considerable rival that can cause problems. And don't forget that Bucks don't have the experience that GSW players have in difficult matches.
I've been pretty unlucky this season betting on teams named after animals that actually exist, so I'll be going with the Wizards, Warriors, and Raptors (to get some revenge on those pesky Timberwolves for ruining my multi earlier this week) 
- Toronto Raptors -6.0 at (1.81)
- Washington Wizards -5.5 at (1.93)
- Golden State Warriors -6.5 (1.84)
Was actually tempted by GSW -8.5 (2.20) but thought that might be a bit too much for a multi
Ronnie @ Cloudbet
- Toronto Raptors -6.0 at (1.81)
- Washington Wizards -5.5 at (1.93)
- Golden State Warriors -6.5 (1.84)
Was actually tempted by GSW -8.5 (2.20) but thought that might be a bit too much for a multi
Ronnie @ Cloudbet
Though, I'd like to see if Giannis could stop KD. But I think Giannis did slow down KD last time but the splash brothers did there thing. This season is quite interesting, First is that Lebron will not be playing in the PO and the teams in the East are really putting up a show.
I'm going to bet on the Bucks if they will face with the warriors in the NBA finals.
Bucks knows how to beat the warriors, and they have the best record in the league, so it's going to be a big advantage for them in terms of home court.
For a team that has Curry and Klay that is not remotely enough. Don't get me started on Durant which can't be guarded by anyone in the league at all. So if Spurs can become 7th somehow that is great but if they end up at 8th seed like everyone expects thats an early exit for sure.
Well, TBH that could be reality speaking. Though, if Spurs land on the 7th or 8th there's no difference. They'll be facing Denver if they are on the 7th, in which Jokic is too much for LA. Also, Let's take into consideration that this is by far one of the best seasons for the Denver.
Though, I'd like to see if Giannis could stop KD. But I think Giannis did slow down KD last time but the splash brothers did there thing. This season is quite interesting, First is that Lebron will not be playing in the PO and the teams in the East are really putting up a show.
Magic won over Celtics - 116-108. Solidifying their position at 7th spot (tied with Nets 41-40). It was a comeback win by Magic erasing a 13-point first-half deficit. But obviously, even with that lost, Boston remains at 4th spot.
Magic deserves a win and in the playoffs, I don't know how many coach changes they have in the last 6 years but I'm sure their fans is very happy seeing them clinching the 7th spot.
I watched that game and I never thought Magic could win that since its the Celtics themselves. Although they had a great third quarter and that's their winning quarter.Magic deserves a win and in the playoffs, I don't know how many coach changes they have in the last 6 years but I'm sure their fans is very happy seeing them clinching the 7th spot.
Yes, they really pour on the third quarter and that is the key on their winning as they gain the momentum and never gave up after that.
Is there could be any tie breaker for last spot for the playoffs? Like last year, Minesota vs Nuggets? I really hope that there could be one again. The intensity of each play are really great watching those two team battling with each other.
I think they have clinched the last playoff spot. And I'm not sure we will see any tie-breaker game this year as the spots have been settled. The intensity of the game has intensifies specially during the last 10. Yeah, last year's tie-breaker game was like the championship game for those two teams.
I remember the 2009 playoffs very well when the Magic defeated the Cavaliers to advance to the NBA finals vs the Lakers. That team was a real force with Dwight Howard at center and their high percentage 3 point shooters. In basketball you can easily turn your team around with only one superstar player.
Agree, Dwight Howard is a force in the center during the early stage of his career with the Magic and it is very well complimented with the high 3 point percentage of Hedo when opponents doubled Howard in the middle. I just remember Horace Grant of the Bulls with MJ. He seems to be an all star during those years. He was the recipient of MJ pass when MJ was double but Grant slowly fading when traded to the Magic. Same goes with Luc Longley.
Magic won over Celtics - 116-108. Solidifying their position at 7th spot (tied with Nets 41-40). It was a comeback win by Magic erasing a 13-point first-half deficit. But obviously, even with that lost, Boston remains at 4th spot.
Magic deserves a win and in the playoffs, I don't know how many coach changes they have in the last 6 years but I'm sure their fans is very happy seeing them clinching the 7th spot.
After a long 7 years and x number of coach changes the Magic are assured to be back in the playoffs. Thanks to Aaron Gordon for his 40 points and 14 rebounds, he just showed up for this must win game for them. Is coach Vogel deserving to be the coach of the year for what he have done with the Magic? In my opinion, i think so. Magic deserves a win and in the playoffs, I don't know how many coach changes they have in the last 6 years but I'm sure their fans is very happy seeing them clinching the 7th spot.
I remember the 2009 playoffs very well when the Magic defeated the Cavaliers to advance to the NBA finals vs the Lakers. That team was a real force with Dwight Howard at center and their high percentage 3 point shooters. In basketball you can easily turn your team around with only one superstar player.
One superstar and of course a perfect complementary teammate. It was that time when Pietrus, Turkoglu, Bass and Lewis was having the best time of their career. And also Howard was sensational during that day and dominates the board.
Spurs is definitely a good team but they do not even have a full squad to be honest with you. Dejounte Murray is their starting point guard and I know he is young and all but dude is all-nba defense type of guy so if anyone has a chance at stopping Curry (which I believe no one can but at least they could try) its Dejounte Murray. Now they are gonna play with people like Derrick White which is a new player (his second year I think?) and Lonnie Walker which is a rookie with patty mills and Bellineli helping.
For a team that has Curry and Klay that is not remotely enough. Don't get me started on Durant which can't be guarded by anyone in the league at all. So if Spurs can become 7th somehow that is great but if they end up at 8th seed like everyone expects thats an early exit for sure.
For a team that has Curry and Klay that is not remotely enough. Don't get me started on Durant which can't be guarded by anyone in the league at all. So if Spurs can become 7th somehow that is great but if they end up at 8th seed like everyone expects thats an early exit for sure.
Yes, they are trying to escape a sweep from GSW but I do think Spurs have a better chance of winning than OKC.
Pops have some discipline when it comes to defense while OKC is more of an offensive team. Let us face it, you cannot just win using firepower with GSW. The players there used a training in which they almost perfected every shot even while their eyes are closed.
While on the other hand, Spurs have the ability to take their defensive strategy into a higher level. With Pops doing curses, I bet they are all going to make some efforts at the tune of Pops.
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