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I think the league should seriously consider moving the 3 point line back further. NBA games have become a 3 point shooting contest with a serious lack of inside play. There is practically no mid range game anymore.

There are many factors to consider it done. The thing I think that is the standardization of the three point line. If you want to move the three point line farther away from the basket, then all the specs of the court will also be changed. And basically 3pointers are evolution of shotmaking, maybe to avoid injury.

From there, teams need also to adjust the defensive strategy, evolutions really come this far and regarding to that matter there's no need to change how things inside the court but the players and coaches are the one who needs to evolve as well, managing to intercept and create new defensive rotations will bring new height and level on this coming season, from offense to defense adjustment who's team will rise among others.

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Kind of excited with that.

How about Kristaps Porzingis.
Somehow we see a Dirk Nowitzki with a better blocking percentage below the rim.
When his shooting percentage gets higher this will be a mam than cannot be reached.
Imagine someone who can post up and make deep perimeter shooting. It will be a WOW to watch him making perfection of his new style.

It will be more likely that he will be like a forward position too for spacing.

He is still young but he already showed his potential as a big man in the future.
The sad thing is that he belongs to a shitty team, I hope this will stay healthy and to team up with another superstar, like Lebron James.

Porzingis is like a hidden gem in NBA. He is in the shitty team at this moment but in the next few years, many will try to get him because his performance levels up every year.

He has a potential to be an all star in the next years. I will not be surprised if he will be on a team with some all star players like Rockets maybe or Celtics or maybe Lakers and will team up with Lebron Cheesy

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Quote from: BitBustah on August 08, 2018, 10:12:48 AM

I think the league should seriously consider moving the 3 point line back further. NBA games have become a 3 point shooting contest with a serious lack of inside play. There is practically no mid range game anymore.

There are many factors to consider it done. The thing I think that is the standardization of the three point line. If you want to move the three point line farther away from the basket, then all the specs of the court will also be changed. And basically 3pointers are evolution of shotmaking, maybe to avoid injury.

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Quote from: Ipwich on August 11, 2018, 07:19:20 AM

Quote from: Reid on August 10, 2018, 02:17:04 PM

Kind of excited with that.

How about Kristaps Porzingis.
Somehow we see a Dirk Nowitzki with a better blocking percentage below the rim.
When his shooting percentage gets higher this will be a mam than cannot be reached.
Imagine someone who can post up and make deep perimeter shooting. It will be a WOW to watch him making perfection of his new style.

It will be more likely that he will be like a forward position too for spacing.

He is still young but he already showed his potential as a big man in the future.
The sad thing is that he belongs to a shitty team, I hope this will stay healthy and to team up with another superstar, like Lebron James.

There is no shitty team when there is a good management and coaching behind it.

GSW is shitty before. Playing with just 4 players because of players with injuries.
They tried to swallow all of that pride being lost and look at where are they now.

Cavaliers and Philly are also some shitty teams before but they are all trying to get a better roster and a coach to make it better.

Porzingis will get there with hard work and his trainor reaching higher levels.

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This is one the "issues" I see in the NBA right now. I hope that those big guys are not being forced by the team to go for the three because its going to be awkward. I mean you are getting out of your comfort zone and you are not used to firing 3's but instead wants to go inside and be physical and battle for the loose ball.

Still waiting for the names of these big guys who are forced by their team to do threes. Im curious who are those.

Don't pressured him lol. I don't see too any big guys who were forced to do outside shooting. What's the sense? Who will stay on offensive rebounds if those centers will stay at three point area. What's the used of other guards if they can't do outside shooting? Are those coaches nuts to forced a player? Joel Embiid shoots from the three point area because he has really shooting at that zone but most of the time he's stay on inside. Anthony Davis sometimes shoots too at the same area but mostly he do points inside. Kristap Porzingis, big thin guy and he has a good shooting percentage at three point area, why put this player inside?

And who else?

LOL Im not pressuring him. Im just curious who are those big guys so that I can gave my own view about it.

Anyways those you have mentioned are not literally "Centers". They are Power Forward with good outside shooting percentage so acting between BIG MAN and a perimeter shooter will depend on where they want to post an action. But they are not forced by their coach. Instead, that's an advantage.

In every dominant team today, we are really lacking of legitimate centers that's why we can't see few hard physical actions today inside the paint for both offense and defense. So I don't see it as an issue if some teams are making more threes because that's their specialty and advantage.

Kind of excited with that.

How about Kristaps Porzingis.
Somehow we see a Dirk Nowitzki with a better blocking percentage below the rim.
When his shooting percentage gets higher this will be a mam than cannot be reached.
Imagine someone who can post up and make deep perimeter shooting. It will be a WOW to watch him making perfection of his new style.

It will be more likely that he will be like a forward position too for spacing.

He is still young but he already showed his potential as a big man in the future.
The sad thing is that he belongs to a shitty team, I hope this will stay healthy and to team up with another superstar, like Lebron James.

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Quote from: harizen on August 10, 2018, 08:40:48 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 09, 2018, 02:12:50 AM

This is one the "issues" I see in the NBA right now. I hope that those big guys are not being forced by the team to go for the three because its going to be awkward. I mean you are getting out of your comfort zone and you are not used to firing 3's but instead wants to go inside and be physical and battle for the loose ball.

Still waiting for the names of these big guys who are forced by their team to do threes. Im curious who are those.

Don't pressured him lol. I don't see too any big guys who were forced to do outside shooting. What's the sense? Who will stay on offensive rebounds if those centers will stay at three point area. What's the used of other guards if they can't do outside shooting? Are those coaches nuts to forced a player? Joel Embiid shoots from the three point area because he has really shooting at that zone but most of the time he's stay on inside. Anthony Davis sometimes shoots too at the same area but mostly he do points inside. Kristap Porzingis, big thin guy and he has a good shooting percentage at three point area, why put this player inside?

And who else?

LOL Im not pressuring him. Im just curious who are those big guys so that I can gave my own view about it.

Anyways those you have mentioned are not literally "Centers". They are Power Forward with good outside shooting percentage so acting between BIG MAN and a perimeter shooter will depend on where they want to post an action. But they are not forced by their coach. Instead, that's an advantage.

In every dominant team today, we are really lacking of legitimate centers that's why we can't see few hard physical actions today inside the paint for both offense and defense. So I don't see it as an issue if some teams are making more threes because that's their specialty and advantage.

Kind of excited with that.

How about Kristaps Porzingis.
Somehow we see a Dirk Nowitzki with a better blocking percentage below the rim.
When his shooting percentage gets higher this will be a mam than cannot be reached.
Imagine someone who can post up and make deep perimeter shooting. It will be a WOW to watch him making perfection of his new style.

It will be more likely that he will be like a forward position too for spacing.

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Quote from: agustina2 on August 10, 2018, 01:09:45 PM

Quote from: harizen on August 10, 2018, 08:40:48 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 09, 2018, 02:12:50 AM

This is one the "issues" I see in the NBA right now. I hope that those big guys are not being forced by the team to go for the three because its going to be awkward. I mean you are getting out of your comfort zone and you are not used to firing 3's but instead wants to go inside and be physical and battle for the loose ball.

Still waiting for the names of these big guys who are forced by their team to do threes. Im curious who are those.

Don't pressured him lol. I don't see too any big guys who were forced to do outside shooting. What's the sense? Who will stay on offensive rebounds if those centers will stay at three point area. What's the used of other guards if they can't do outside shooting? Are those coaches nuts to forced a player? Joel Embiid shoots from the three point area because he has really shooting at that zone but most of the time he's stay on inside. Anthony Davis sometimes shoots too at the same area but mostly he do points inside. Kristap Porzingis, big thin guy and he has a good shooting percentage at three point area, why put this player inside?

And who else?

LOL Im not pressuring him. Im just curious who are those big guys so that I can gave my own view about it.

Anyways those you have mentioned are not literally "Centers". They are Power Forward with good outside shooting percentage so acting between BIG MAN and a perimeter shooter will depend on where they want to post an action. But they are not forced by their coach. Instead, that's an advantage.

In every dominant team today, we are really lacking of legitimate centers that's why we can't see few hard physical actions today inside the paint for both offense and defense. So I don't see it as an issue if some teams are making more threes because that's their specialty and advantage.

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Quote from: harizen on August 10, 2018, 08:40:48 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 09, 2018, 02:12:50 AM

This is one the "issues" I see in the NBA right now. I hope that those big guys are not being forced by the team to go for the three because its going to be awkward. I mean you are getting out of your comfort zone and you are not used to firing 3's but instead wants to go inside and be physical and battle for the loose ball.

Still waiting for the names of these big guys who are forced by their team to do threes. Im curious who are those.

Don't pressured him lol. I don't see too any big guys who were forced to do outside shooting. What's the sense? Who will stay on offensive rebounds if those centers will stay at three point area. What's the used of other guards if they can't do outside shooting? Are those coaches nuts to forced a player? Joel Embiid shoots from the three point area because he has really shooting at that zone but most of the time he's stay on inside. Anthony Davis sometimes shoots too at the same area but mostly he do points inside. Kristap Porzingis, big thin guy and he has a good shooting percentage at three point area, why put this player inside?

And who else?

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Barring any injuries, the Warriors will defend its title once again I think. OK, Houston was close last year and Melo could turn out to be good. Lakers will be a playoff team and I think OKC will improve compared to last year- the Kiwi is a beast

Lakers will beat the OKC and once again westbrook will have an early exit in the playoffs.
Rockets are a good team but Lebron is with the lakers now, only the warriors can beat him so I think we will see most likely a Lakers vs Warriors West Finals.

This will only happen if they will have a good chemistry along the way but I have trust in Lebron. Remember when they traded most of their players last season and yet they are in 4th spot. I think the will be a playoff contender but not enough to win in the conference (own opinion).

Warriors won 2 out of three in their past three finals appearances and most people ar saying thay they will win again now that they acquired Boogie and I agree with them although as they always say "The ball is round". Lets just see their performance next season.

They have been just adding up players to create a superteam but i would still believe that Lakers would really give a good fight on West finals. Coordination would really takes time specially with Lebron and the players of Lakers but that wont really be a major issue. This year would be exciting on the west on how those superteams will clash as well into those runner-ups on the conference.

Can we say whoever wins the West will win the Finals.
Young players have been doing hard work at the east and they are also getting bigger line ups. While the best have super guards which makes a small and fast teams.
It had been a huge flip now. Before it was the West who have Giants but now it seems like the guards are the mostly seen.

Embiid should really take his game to a higher level so that centers will be seen again on the front lines.

Possible.

The last couple of years, the West seems to evolve pretty much and the East was very slow to react. But its pretty obvious now that the 3 point shoot is more of a thing now in the West more than having a good center to man the ring. I don't know what Joel needs to improved though, perhaps just be consistent, all this stats are up from 2016 (pts / rebounds / assists).

Western are always known to have the offensive firepower, while Eastern has their solid defensive plays (if you remember the bad boys in Detroit). But as the time passed by, defensive plays has become less effective due to the increase of effeciency from the players who shoot everywhere specialy with the 3's. Like what one of the coach said during the finals ( I just forgot who exactly. Its between coach Pop or Spoelstra, im not sure) He said " our offense is our great defense."

I agree with this line which a good team defense would be somehow be useless if offense on the opposing team is on wide range example. each player or most player do have extensive kind of roles which they can able to perform on such situation. Shooting 3's on any angle with any or most members of the team would really be a huge advantage rather than focusing purely on defense.This is where West team specializes on and we do really see the advantage.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 10, 2018, 06:37:58 AM

I am sure you guys would agree that the Jordan and Kobe Bryant Era of Basketball is better than today.
The warriors just destroy the good image of basketball, it's not a physical game anymore, players are so soft nowadays.

Is the Golden State Warriors only the team in NBA? How they destroy the NBA? Please read my recent post:

Quote from: harizen on August 09, 2018, 08:05:41 AM

Golden State Warriors doesn't have a good and dominant big man throughout years. Especially during Curry's arrival. You want them to go physical with their soft and small lineup? lol. Other teams as well are like that. Blame other teams why Warriors became dominated in the league right now.

Again, you want Warriors to go physical with their lineup? lol. Of course coming from bottom, they think of a way how to climb to the top and their recipe is outside threes. Blame other teams for not doing a physical game. And again, as I said:

Quote from: harizen on August 09, 2018, 08:05:41 AM

You guys just noticed it because today's NBA doesn't have now (or lacking) a center like Shaq, Duncan, Wallace etc. Wait for the upcoming seasons and hope that someone will enter the NBA draft with that kind of built.

Yes the current NBA today is different but we have nothing to do with it. Force an inside play where you are good at outside and vice versa? RIP strategy if that will be the scenario.

During past era, there are centers that their "NATURE" is really a center that's why we can see lots of inside action. We can't blame centers today if they have a good shooting percentage. That's their talent.

Quote from: Jating on August 09, 2018, 02:12:50 AM

This is one the "issues" I see in the NBA right now. I hope that those big guys are not being forced by the team to go for the three because its going to be awkward. I mean you are getting out of your comfort zone and you are not used to firing 3's but instead wants to go inside and be physical and battle for the loose ball.

Still waiting for the names of these big guys who are forced by their team to do threes. Im curious who are those.

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Quote from: DIA7 on August 10, 2018, 08:11:45 AM

did you see Kahwi thank you letter tor the Spurs

For advance asking for the link here it goes.
Kawhi Leonard pens thank you letter to San Antonio Spurs, past teammates and fans

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did you see Kahwi thank you letter tor the Spurs absolutely a masterpice you can see how it took him about three weeks to write this letter It’s like the time you had an assignment due in 15 minutes that you forgot about doing at the end it's propably he is not the one that wrote it maybe he used some of 18 millions and hired someone to write the letter thanking them for the 18M.

Also Cleveland ended up signing Isaiah Taylor for one year after looking for a PG for more then a week coming from Atlanta he could have potential as a playmaker but he needs to work on improving his shooting good thing for him in the new season with cavs no one will blame him for missong shots because everyone else wouldn't be much better then him.

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Quote from: harizen on August 09, 2018, 08:05:41 AM

You guys just noticed it because today's NBA doesn't have now (or lacking) a center like Shaq, Duncan, Wallace etc. Wait for the upcoming seasons and hope that someone will enter the NBA draft with that kind of built.

That's true.
The West have small line ups. I guess it is Embiid now and Anthony Davis who are the dominating centers.
There is more but they are still young. Need more experience.

Forwards though are making a big leap into being a forward and also a center. They want speed now and they are creating better shots by doing that. Taking the ball thru fastbreaks and Centers cannot go with the pace.

If that is the case they will be the one pulling the team down. But in level of offense they could also dominate if they are against a small team.
It is a weakness and also a strength.

Davis and Embiid are the examples of center who can dribble the ball and play deep, but the game already in the new height shooters after shooters where the rotations really hard to defend, Warriors change the style of this league and they really dominating with their owned versions of super team.

Let's see if there's a new coaching style who will bring center to dominate the inside game, and not to relied with their 3 points shooters, things where Olajuwon, Shaq and Duncan before.

Yeah the Warriors just changed the style of the league. When Curry and Thompson and others are shooting threes like they don't miss, other teams have done it too. Fuck the WARRIORS!!!! Cheesy

Anyway, we can't blame them because of how Coach Kerr are coaching them. I hope there is a coach who will coach his players to dominate inside not outside but I doubt there is one who will do that for me.

I am sure you guys would agree that the Jordan and Kobe Bryant Era of Basketball is better than today.
The warriors just destroy the good image of basketball, it's not a physical game anymore, players are so soft nowadays.

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Quote from: Caladonian on August 09, 2018, 10:32:18 PM

Quote from: Reid on August 09, 2018, 07:44:58 PM

Quote from: harizen on August 09, 2018, 08:05:41 AM

You guys just noticed it because today's NBA doesn't have now (or lacking) a center like Shaq, Duncan, Wallace etc. Wait for the upcoming seasons and hope that someone will enter the NBA draft with that kind of built.

That's true.
The West have small line ups. I guess it is Embiid now and Anthony Davis who are the dominating centers.
There is more but they are still young. Need more experience.

Forwards though are making a big leap into being a forward and also a center. They want speed now and they are creating better shots by doing that. Taking the ball thru fastbreaks and Centers cannot go with the pace.

If that is the case they will be the one pulling the team down. But in level of offense they could also dominate if they are against a small team.
It is a weakness and also a strength.

Davis and Embiid are the examples of center who can dribble the ball and play deep, but the game already in the new height shooters after shooters where the rotations really hard to defend, Warriors change the style of this league and they really dominating with their owned versions of super team.

Let's see if there's a new coaching style who will bring center to dominate the inside game, and not to relied with their 3 points shooters, things where Olajuwon, Shaq and Duncan before.

Yeah the Warriors just changed the style of the league. When Curry and Thompson and others are shooting threes like they don't miss, other teams have done it too. Fuck the WARRIORS!!!! Cheesy

Anyway, we can't blame them because of how Coach Kerr are coaching them. I hope there is a coach who will coach his players to dominate inside not outside but I doubt there is one who will do that for me.

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Quote from: Reid on August 09, 2018, 07:44:58 PM

Quote from: harizen on August 09, 2018, 08:05:41 AM

You guys just noticed it because today's NBA doesn't have now (or lacking) a center like Shaq, Duncan, Wallace etc. Wait for the upcoming seasons and hope that someone will enter the NBA draft with that kind of built.

That's true.
The West have small line ups. I guess it is Embiid now and Anthony Davis who are the dominating centers.
There is more but they are still young. Need more experience.

Forwards though are making a big leap into being a forward and also a center. They want speed now and they are creating better shots by doing that. Taking the ball thru fastbreaks and Centers cannot go with the pace.

If that is the case they will be the one pulling the team down. But in level of offense they could also dominate if they are against a small team.
It is a weakness and also a strength.

Davis and Embiid are the examples of center who can dribble the ball and play deep, but the game already in the new height shooters after shooters where the rotations really hard to defend, Warriors change the style of this league and they really dominating with their owned versions of super team.

Let's see if there's a new coaching style who will bring center to dominate the inside game, and not to relied with their 3 points shooters, things where Olajuwon, Shaq and Duncan before.

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Quote from: harizen on August 09, 2018, 08:05:41 AM

You guys just noticed it because today's NBA doesn't have now (or lacking) a center like Shaq, Duncan, Wallace etc. Wait for the upcoming seasons and hope that someone will enter the NBA draft with that kind of built.

That's true.
The West have small line ups. I guess it is Embiid now and Anthony Davis who are the dominating centers.
There is more but they are still young. Need more experience.

Forwards though are making a big leap into being a forward and also a center. They want speed now and they are creating better shots by doing that. Taking the ball thru fastbreaks and Centers cannot go with the pace.

If that is the case they will be the one pulling the team down. But in level of offense they could also dominate if they are against a small team.
It is a weakness and also a strength.

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Quote from: BitBustah on August 08, 2018, 10:12:48 AM

I think the league should seriously consider moving the 3 point line back further. NBA games have become a 3 point shooting contest with a serious lack of inside play. There is practically no mid range game anymore.

Lol. Interesting argument. Maybe keep the line there and have a 4 point line? Lmao

Interesting, I thought I'm the only one that noticed it but watching those balls from the 3 point line makes the game into a showdown. And it's more exciting if the other team is answering with another three.

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Quote from: Sukut on August 09, 2018, 08:44:47 AM

Quote from: BitBustah on August 08, 2018, 10:12:48 AM

I think the league should seriously consider moving the 3 point line back further. NBA games have become a 3 point shooting contest with a serious lack of inside play. There is practically no mid range game anymore.

Lol. Interesting argument. Maybe keep the line there and have a 4 point line? Lmao

Actually that thought of a 4 point play has been circulating in the NBA for quite sometime now.

(https://www.complex.com/sports/2017/03/adam-silver-talks-to-chris-paul-might-add-10-point-shot-to-all-star-game)

But I don't know, it looks like the team that will benefit it more is the Warriors with Curry, Thompson and Durant. And to they think its going to add competitiveness in the game? I don't think so. Personally, 3 point is enough to make the game very exciting specially in the dying minutes wherein the team really needs to make a 3 to tie or even take a lead. IMHO

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Quote from: BitBustah on August 08, 2018, 10:12:48 AM

I think the league should seriously consider moving the 3 point line back further. NBA games have become a 3 point shooting contest with a serious lack of inside play. There is practically no mid range game anymore.

Lol. Interesting argument. Maybe keep the line there and have a 4 point line? Lmao

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Bucks? Hmm.
Antentokoumpo seems to have a bad game when the playoffs came. Is it a rat or what? He seems nervous and out of himself. Sorry, but that is how I see it when I watched him during the playoffs.

For him to proceed to the 2nd round and maybe the finals he really need to up his games.
Cut the errors, specially catching the ball.
The alley oops are also not there anymore. Is it the defense or he is too occupied thinking about how to win. He really lose it there.

He is always an aggressive type of player during the early phase of each game against Celtics last playoffs but I noticed that he lacks of power once the game will come to near end or during the last minute. His playoffs stats is impressive. Not just him but also his teammates e.g Middleton, Bledsoe etc.

Honestly I never thought they will bring the game to Game 7 against the much dominant Boston Celtics. I think if ever they don't faced this team during the first round, they have a chance enter 2nd round.

Quote from: Jating on August 09, 2018, 02:12:50 AM

This is one the "issues" I see in the NBA right now. I hope that those big guys are not being forced by the team to go for the three because its going to be awkward. I mean you are getting out of your comfort zone and you are not used to firing 3's but instead wants to go inside and be physical and battle for the loose ball.

May we know the names of these big guys you are pointing that were forced by their team to go for threes?

Quote from: Maslate on August 08, 2018, 09:57:56 PM

I miss the old days, even though the warriors are champions now but I don't like the way they dominated their opponents.

Golden State Warriors doesn't have a good and dominant big man throughout years. Especially during Curry's arrival. You want them to go physical with their soft and small lineup? lol. Other teams as well are like that. Blame other teams why Warriors became dominated in the league right now.

You guys just noticed it because today's NBA doesn't have now (or lacking) a center like Shaq, Duncan, Wallace etc. Wait for the upcoming seasons and hope that someone will enter the NBA draft with that kind of built.

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