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October 09, 2023, 11:32:43 PM
Many fans think that its Mike Williams and Maverick Ahanmisi I don't know if I spelled his name right but this is flooded on Podcast of Pow sports. If that's the case then its not good since they are not actually committed for their country but rather they are there trying to earn a lot of money from the team. They shouldn't ask that since they don't prove anything yet on the league.

But they should move on to that discussion since that already happen, they already won the gold medal on last Asian games so its time for them to celebrate and ignore those negative  interference that can spoil the fun. They just focus on players that can provide their service without asking more further conditions  and forget about those people who ask to much from them.

These two have a track record of demanding hefty salaries from their teams, so it wouldn't be shocking if it turned out to be them. However, it's not essential anymore. We've managed to assemble a solid team, and even with limited preparation, we still clinched the gold medal.

Speaking of pay and salaries, I heard that SBP paid Jordan Clarkson $1 million for his participation in the FIBA World Cup. So, if they can afford to shell out that much, I believe our champions deserve a substantial reward, especially Justin Brownlee, who really carried the team and made history.
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October 09, 2023, 08:25:34 AM
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.

It is sad to note that visiting team/teams will spend tons of money on hotels plus their salaries, that is the reason why the Bay Area Dragons disbanded but i think PBA is working on bringing other teams to the league as guests as that makes the PBA exciting to watch if the guest is also a strong team like the BAD.

In terms of hotel expenses, it doesn't seem like a significant cost. The host league could potentially cover all those expenses, except for the players' salaries. That's just my suggestion, considering this is a business venture. If the players can bring in more revenue to the league than the league would spend, it's still a win-win situation for both parties.


Meanwhile, let us guess who these players that Boss Al Chua said were asking too much money to play for Gilas, two players he said.



Many fans think that its Mike Williams and Maverick Ahanmisi I don't know if I spelled his name right but this is flooded on Podcast of Pow sports. If that's the case then its not good since they are not actually committed for their country but rather they are there trying to earn a lot of money from the team. They shouldn't ask that since they don't prove anything yet on the league.

But they should move on to that discussion since that already happen, they already won the gold medal on last Asian games so its time for them to celebrate and ignore those negative  interference that can spoil the fun. They just focus on players that can provide their service without asking more further conditions  and forget about those people who ask to much from them.
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October 09, 2023, 07:29:45 AM
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.

It is sad to note that visiting team/teams will spend tons of money on hotels plus their salaries, that is the reason why the Bay Area Dragons disbanded but i think PBA is working on bringing other teams to the league as guests as that makes the PBA exciting to watch if the guest is also a strong team like the BAD.

In terms of hotel expenses, it doesn't seem like a significant cost. The host league could potentially cover all those expenses, except for the players' salaries. That's just my suggestion, considering this is a business venture. If the players can bring in more revenue to the league than the league would spend, it's still a win-win situation for both parties.

But based on the articles that I'd read months ago, hotel expenses and salaries were some of the reasons why they disbanded by you also got a point that the league that they were part of was no longer profitable, I mean the gate attendance is not enough to run the league, just my thought though as I might be wrong in this assumption.
I reckon your point carries more weight since you've got it from an article, but for me, it's kinda just a hunch that their issues might run deeper. When they came over to the Philippines and started playing, I'm not really sure about the deal they had, 'cause it's like, way beyond their usual league. They might have been raking in some serious cash from what the league pulled in during that specific conference, though.

Meanwhile, let us guess who these players that Boss Al Chua said were asking too much money to play for Gilas, two players he said.

Is he talking about the players who scored gold in the Asian Games? Or is he referring to the ones who didn't make the cut because of that problem?
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October 09, 2023, 06:32:35 AM
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.

It is sad to note that visiting team/teams will spend tons of money on hotels plus their salaries, that is the reason why the Bay Area Dragons disbanded but i think PBA is working on bringing other teams to the league as guests as that makes the PBA exciting to watch if the guest is also a strong team like the BAD.

In terms of hotel expenses, it doesn't seem like a significant cost. The host league could potentially cover all those expenses, except for the players' salaries. That's just my suggestion, considering this is a business venture. If the players can bring in more revenue to the league than the league would spend, it's still a win-win situation for both parties.

But based on the articles that I'd read months ago, hotel expenses and salaries were some of the reasons why they disbanded by you also got a point that the league that they were part of was no longer profitable, I mean the gate attendance is not enough to run the league, just my thought though as I might be wrong in this assumption.

Meanwhile, let us guess who these players that Boss Al Chua said were asking too much money to play for Gilas, two players he said.

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October 09, 2023, 06:06:43 AM
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.

It is sad to note that visiting team/teams will spend tons of money on hotels plus their salaries, that is the reason why the Bay Area Dragons disbanded but i think PBA is working on bringing other teams to the league as guests as that makes the PBA exciting to watch if the guest is also a strong team like the BAD.

In terms of hotel expenses, it doesn't seem like a significant cost. The host league could potentially cover all those expenses, except for the players' salaries. That's just my suggestion, considering this is a business venture. If the players can bring in more revenue to the league than the league would spend, it's still a win-win situation for both parties.

So, I don't believe it's solely the issue of player salaries. The bigger concern might be the overall expenses that BAD (or any team) may not be able to offset with fan attendance. After all, fans are the primary reason a team becomes profitable.

Does anyone know when the PBA resumes?

It's November 5 based on the article shared by @Distinctin.

I guess now they'll take a breather and get ready for the PBA comeback. By the way, here's the heads up to when the new season will start.

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The Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Season 48 is set to kick off on November 5, 2023 instead of its originally planned start date of October 15. Season 48 commences with the Commissioner's Cup, and there will be no guest team participating in the import-laden conference. This decision follows the East Asia Super League (EASL) announcement that their team, the Bay Area Dragons, has been disbanded after just one season, leaving the original 12 local teams.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2016/02/pba-live-updates-schedule-standings-pba.html
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October 09, 2023, 05:37:15 AM
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.

It is sad to note that visiting team/teams will spend tons of money on hotels plus their salaries, that is the reason why the Bay Area Dragons disbanded but i think PBA is working on bringing other teams to the league as guests as that makes the PBA exciting to watch if the guest is also a strong team like the BAD.

Does anyone know when the PBA resumes?
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October 09, 2023, 04:44:16 AM
Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

I think even before, Bay Area Dragons was not the expected team to play again as a visitor in the PBA. Just an option though.

There are lots of foreign teams that were targeted by the board but never it mentioned any names.

I hope another foreign team will be deployed on the PBA. It brings a good challenge to our locals especially the mid-tier teams.

I remember hearing the buzz that they might be making a comeback, but then the heartbreaking news dropped - turns out the team got disbanded because the management couldn't handle the costs of keeping the squad running. It's a bummer for sure, but maybe it's best to let that team rest in peace since they're no longer around.

But hey, it seems like the PBA might be onto something exciting by bringing in foreign teams to the competition. Not only does it get fans all hyped up, but it's likely raking in some serious dough for the league. I mean, think about it: when a foreign squad ends up in the Finals, especially against Ginebra, you can bet folks are showing up to support, just like when our Gilas team faces off against other foreign teams. Good times for sure!
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October 08, 2023, 06:52:18 PM
Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt.
They were like had the best start on the PBA but then it's just sad to know that they've been disbanded. We need more of these foreign teams to step up the games of the current team of the PBA and we'll not just see them play the same as usual. Many have become fans of the Bay Area Dragons and that's because on how strong they are and tall their players are.

But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!
Maybe there will be another foreign team that's about to come if it's allowed by the commissioners. On the side note, after the Gilas run in the Asian games with gold. There's a good career that's awaiting for Ange Kouame as he's now headed to France just after a day of their win against Jordan, he signed a contract with UB Chartres Metropole. (https://www.rappler.com/sports/gilas-pilipinas/ange-kouame-headed-france-after-helping-philippines-gold-asian-games-2023/)
I think if Kai Sotto just headed the same as his, maybe he'll get more better contracts but anyway he's good also in the B league right now and seems like his team willing to take care of him for a long time.
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October 08, 2023, 06:46:33 PM
Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

I think even before, Bay Area Dragons was not the expected team to play again as a visitor in the PBA. Just an option though.

There are lots of foreign teams that were targeted by the board but never it mentioned any names.

I hope another foreign team will be deployed on the PBA. It brings a good challenge to our locals especially the mid-tier teams.
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October 08, 2023, 06:35:28 PM

Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

That's a bit of a buzzkill, isn't it? I was kinda hoping they'd make a comeback and redeem themselves. It would've been a win-win for the PBA because BAD really boosted viewership, and those PBA Finals they were in? Man, they brought in some serious dough for the league.

Well, now that the team's been disbanded, I guess they should start scouting for a new team to take up the invite. Just make sure those refs aren't blowing the whistles in favor of the home team, if you catch my drift.
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.
Maybe because we are already tired of watching the game of the normal PBA teams and we don’t see any excitement anymore because of many rumors about it so bringing a new team from abroad makes the league more exciting again. Too bad we will now be seeing them again but let’s see if PBA will invite other foreign team to play in PBA and be part of our basketball culture as well, this is more interesting to watch honestly.

Same sentiment here, with the same teams that playing against each other fans and viewers are no longer that exited knowing that there are two major businesses that dominates the league, sister company against each other or one of the team from MVP and SMC and nothing else, the outcome is very predictable as there are rumors that game can be fix when sister teams are playing against each other.

With the present of Bay Area, people get interested in how the super team will compete and how they will protect the league from the visiting challengers.
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October 08, 2023, 04:19:11 PM

Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

That's a bit of a buzzkill, isn't it? I was kinda hoping they'd make a comeback and redeem themselves. It would've been a win-win for the PBA because BAD really boosted viewership, and those PBA Finals they were in? Man, they brought in some serious dough for the league.

Well, now that the team's been disbanded, I guess they should start scouting for a new team to take up the invite. Just make sure those refs aren't blowing the whistles in favor of the home team, if you catch my drift.
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.
Maybe because we are already tired of watching the game of the normal PBA teams and we don’t see any excitement anymore because of many rumors about it so bringing a new team from abroad makes the league more exciting again. Too bad we will now be seeing them again but let’s see if PBA will invite other foreign team to play in PBA and be part of our basketball culture as well, this is more interesting to watch honestly.
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October 08, 2023, 01:22:33 PM

Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

That's a bit of a buzzkill, isn't it? I was kinda hoping they'd make a comeback and redeem themselves. It would've been a win-win for the PBA because BAD really boosted viewership, and those PBA Finals they were in? Man, they brought in some serious dough for the league.

Well, now that the team's been disbanded, I guess they should start scouting for a new team to take up the invite. Just make sure those refs aren't blowing the whistles in favor of the home team, if you catch my drift.
I agree, Bay Area really bring another level of entertainment a kind of competition that push the level of competition inside PBA has been challenge, I like the way Gin kings play them, though catching that last statement about how the refs help the home team, that's no secret on it, kind of moving back to Bay Area if only they did not disband, I'm looking to see if how SMB will challenged them, with the healthy JMF and TR7 I'm pretty sure there are lots of fans who are also interested to see them competing, sad to say that they will not come back and maybe PBA governors will find another new challenger as visiting team.
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October 08, 2023, 03:17:32 AM

Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

That's a bit of a buzzkill, isn't it? I was kinda hoping they'd make a comeback and redeem themselves. It would've been a win-win for the PBA because BAD really boosted viewership, and those PBA Finals they were in? Man, they brought in some serious dough for the league.

Well, now that the team's been disbanded, I guess they should start scouting for a new team to take up the invite. Just make sure those refs aren't blowing the whistles in favor of the home team, if you catch my drift.
Maybe PBA can find another replacement for the BAD just to continue this kind of season.
Anyway, our Gilas team was home already and many are already celebrating their big wins. Kudos also to our all athletes who fought their hears out just to bring pride and honor to our country, they are all good no matter what the result is, hopefully we will rise stronger in the next Asian games.
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Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!

That's a bit of a buzzkill, isn't it? I was kinda hoping they'd make a comeback and redeem themselves. It would've been a win-win for the PBA because BAD really boosted viewership, and those PBA Finals they were in? Man, they brought in some serious dough for the league.

Well, now that the team's been disbanded, I guess they should start scouting for a new team to take up the invite. Just make sure those refs aren't blowing the whistles in favor of the home team, if you catch my drift.
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October 07, 2023, 11:23:01 PM
I guess now they'll take a breather and get ready for the PBA comeback. By the way, here's the heads up to when the new season will start.

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The Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Season 48 is set to kick off on November 5, 2023 instead of its originally planned start date of October 15. Season 48 commences with the Commissioner's Cup, and there will be no guest team participating in the import-laden conference. This decision follows the East Asia Super League (EASL) announcement that their team, the Bay Area Dragons, has been disbanded after just one season, leaving the original 12 local teams.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2016/02/pba-live-updates-schedule-standings-pba.html

In less than a month, we'll be getting back into the PBA action, and I'm super stoked! Finally, we get to see the new talents who got drafted this year in action. They had to push the start date because they were giving priority to international competitions, but since there's nothing on the international front, it looks like nothing's gonna hold back the return of the PBA.

Sadly, we won't be seeing the BAD this season since the team's been disbanded. I'm sure fans would have loved to welcome them, especially after they gave the Ginebra Gin Kings such a tough challenge in their first attempt. But hey, I'm still hoping for some top-notch entertainment, maybe even more than before!
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October 07, 2023, 08:03:00 PM
And there are also many wrong strategies that Chot made recently that the team should win but always loses in the end. As for this Tim cone, he only touched it for a short period of time, and it was positive that he immediately did what he did in team glory and was able to bring home gold right away. Anyway, thank you, Team Gilas. You are really good. Long live.

Because Coach Tim was focused more on coaching PBA, he knows every well what would be the effective strategy for our locals.

Since most Gilas' roster are PBA players, Coach Tim finds a way to know the best spot where he assigned a certain player.

And coaching Justin Brownlee in Ginebra for years, that make Coach Tim as the effective head coach of Gilas Pilipinas.

Yeah, it's true. He and Brownlee go way back, and they've had some real success together. But we can't just rely on that, man. Tim Cone's been one heck of a coach; that's why he's been in the league for so many years.

But hey, let's not forget to celebrate our country's achievements, right? After 66 long years, we finally snagged that gold medal in the Asian games.

That lineup, though, is exactly what we needed to beef up the team. Having Ange Koaume in the paint is a game-changer; we're not getting pushed around in there anymore. And JMF? Dude's not just the best big man in the PBA anymore; he's got his first international championship under his belt. Talk about a stellar career at this point!

I guess now they'll take a breather and get ready for the PBA comeback. By the way, here's the heads up to when the new season will start.

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The Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Season 48 is set to kick off on November 5, 2023 instead of its originally planned start date of October 15. Season 48 commences with the Commissioner's Cup, and there will be no guest team participating in the import-laden conference. This decision follows the East Asia Super League (EASL) announcement that their team, the Bay Area Dragons, has been disbanded after just one season, leaving the original 12 local teams.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2016/02/pba-live-updates-schedule-standings-pba.html
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October 07, 2023, 06:58:35 PM
And there are also many wrong strategies that Chot made recently that the team should win but always loses in the end. As for this Tim cone, he only touched it for a short period of time, and it was positive that he immediately did what he did in team glory and was able to bring home gold right away. Anyway, thank you, Team Gilas. You are really good. Long live.

Because Coach Tim was focused more on coaching PBA, he knows every well what would be the effective strategy for our locals.

Since most Gilas' roster are PBA players, Coach Tim finds a way to know the best spot where he assigned a certain player.

And coaching Justin Brownlee in Ginebra for years, that make Coach Tim as the effective head coach of Gilas Pilipinas.
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October 07, 2023, 05:46:58 PM
Congratulations, Gilas Pilipinas! We got the gold.

Such a great game by Gilas. It wasn't all about Brownlee tonight; it was a total team effort. What I like about Gilas here is the defense.

Coach Tim Cone, the best coach in Asia. I'm just so happy tonight. FINALLY!
As expected, they will focus on Brownlee and its good that team Gilas prepared for the game and played the whole game as a whole team. I applaud Newsome and Kuame for playing out of the box tonight and contributing for the big win for the Gilas, finally we’ve got the gold again. Well, as expected with the Chinese audience, they can’t move on and that’s why the boo’s are there against Brownlee and other players. It’s worth the risk, don’t forget to cash out.  Grin

Yes, in the span of time and in the decades that have passed, only now has the Philippine team brought home a gold medal against another country. And this happened when Coach Chot was no longer in charge of the Gilas team. That means, before coach Chot Reyes was handling the Gilas team, the problem was not really in the Gilas team but in the coach's strategy?

And there are also many wrong strategies that Chot made recently that the team should win but always loses in the end. As for this Tim cone, he only touched it for a short period of time, and it was positive that he immediately did what he did in team glory and was able to bring home gold right away. Anyway, thank you, Team Gilas. You are really good. Long live.

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October 07, 2023, 05:42:24 PM
I like how Coach Tim motivates Chris Newsome to just play his usual performance as the main cager in the Meralco Bolts. He told Chris to just shoot the ball whenever he felt it. The reason he gives push to Newsome is because, Jordan won't probably see him as a threat as Chris didn't put up some good stats against China.

I also read that aside from doing the offense, Chris Newsome was being assigned to guard Jordan's main man Rondae Hollis Jefferson outside the perimeter and there's Gilas Big man as a backup if RHJ will penetrate the paint. There might be a mismatch but Coach Tim Cone knows it might create a different play to the Jordan's offense. It's effective and Newsome did a great job on that.

I'm now thinking what if Dwight Ramos, Kai Sotto and Rhenz Abando played with Justin Brownlee? I'm looking forward to seeing that.
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October 07, 2023, 05:32:56 PM
I like how Coach Tim motivates Chris Newsome to just play his usual performance as the main cager in the Meralco Bolts. He told Chris to just shoot the ball whenever he felt it. The reason he gives push to Newsome is because, Jordan won't probably see him as a threat as Chris didn't put up some good stats against China. And guess what happened, Newsome provided helpful stats and Jordan didn't see it coming as they focused on Justin Brownlee.

That's the difference between Coach Tim and Coach Chot where the latter's play is designed for only a few that's why easily checked by the opponent.

Congratulations to Gilas Pilipinas for beating China twice in a row within just short period in a different competition.
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