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Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 10:44:44 PM

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And that's why many fans have lost their appetites because we keep on seeing the same teams like the SMCs in the finals. But the last conference was actually good and a game changer. For the first time, Meralco has won its title and it is the rival company of the SMC, the MVP.
If we get to see this, I think that most of the teams will be handled or under by MVP as well and the PBA will be just a bunch of sister companies and teams under MVP and SMC.

Yeah right, though just reading a social media post about Akari showing interest in buying one of those 2 farm teams, it might be an interesting additional competitors if the management is willing to throw money to make a competitive squad, else, just like what happened with Converge, they ends up nothing and just going with the flow allowing SMC and MVP to continue their dominance.

It's hard to get more teams in the PBA. But if they're up really for competition, they should have done that long time ago. They've got fewer teams and good teams have already left the league because they're tired of the politics and the trade farming. SMC and MVP are getting good trades. They're just picking the best players from those farm teams, they hate to admit it but Danny I have spoken about it.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 08:20:29 AM

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The game started off exciting for Converge in the 1st quarter, but after that, Meralco took control, leading to a blowout loss for Converge. This explains why the handicap was so high—it seemed like a trap, and it turned out to be one.

In the 2nd game, the score is tied at 46 at halftime. It's uncertain whether Magnolia will take over in the 2nd half, but if they do, it could lead to a blowout win, with the spread easily being covered.

Still a close game between Magnolia and NP one more final push for whoever team that will win this game, nice to see that NP is putting the pressure not to allow an easy game for Magnolia, though I don't see any good ball movement from both teams as they all just trying to shot the ball whoever is holding it, especially with NP not sure if they are calling plays, just take it strong to the basket without any rotation.

Not call for offensive set up though Magnolia is doing that same attack option but you can see from them that they still make it sure that there's passes before they take charge just not good rhytm and they keep missing, let see if they can find that timing and make a big run this last quarter.

At some point in the fourth quarter, I thought NorthPort was going to upset Magnolia. They managed to bring the game to a single-possession ball game, but poor defense allowed Magnolia to extend their lead with a three-point shot. It was still a decent game for NorthPort, though—they didn't have their import due to injury, but they didn't let Magnolia dominate them.

bisdak (congrats bro) was lucky to get -4.5 for Magnolia. When I checked, it was -10.5, but regardless, Magnolia still covered the spread since they beat NorthPort by 11 points.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 04, 2024, 07:52:12 AM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 04, 2024, 02:49:45 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 04, 2024, 01:53:04 AM

The first game today at 5 PM is between Meralco and Converge. Based on the betting odds and spread, Meralco is currently at -8.5, which makes them a heavy favorite to win the game. Looking at Converge’s previous game, they lost to Northport in a blowout, with a score of 135-109. So, I'm thinking maybe Converge will try to bounce back strong, and if they fall short, at least they'll cover the handicap.

The pick is CONVERGE +8.5 and a small amount for the moneyline.

That bet of yours is a bit risky kabayan as Meralco is a strong team in my opinion and if they win i think they will cover the spread.

Anyways, i will be betting on the second game between Magnolia and NorthPort which has a lower spread.

Magnolia -4.5 @1.80 vs NorthPort

With how Meralco established their leads in the last quarter I guess it's not a good timing though still got under 5 minutes before the game will be concluded, as long as there's time who knows, though knowing Meralco they will keep that big lead and just continue to play using their time advantage.

I like that Magnolia -4.5 kabayan but I'm out of coins, good luck !

The game started off exciting for Converge in the 1st quarter, but after that, Meralco took control, leading to a blowout loss for Converge. This explains why the handicap was so high—it seemed like a trap, and it turned out to be one.

In the 2nd game, the score is tied at 46 at halftime. It's uncertain whether Magnolia will take over in the 2nd half, but if they do, it could lead to a blowout win, with the spread easily being covered.

Still a close game between Magnolia and NP one more final push for whoever team that will win this game, nice to see that NP is putting the pressure not to allow an easy game for Magnolia, though I don't see any good ball movement from both teams as they all just trying to shot the ball whoever is holding it, especially with NP not sure if they are calling plays, just take it strong to the basket without any rotation.

Not call for offensive set up though Magnolia is doing that same attack option but you can see from them that they still make it sure that there's passes before they take charge just not good rhytm and they keep missing, let see if they can find that timing and make a big run this last quarter.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 06:13:29 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 04, 2024, 02:49:45 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 04, 2024, 01:53:04 AM

The first game today at 5 PM is between Meralco and Converge. Based on the betting odds and spread, Meralco is currently at -8.5, which makes them a heavy favorite to win the game. Looking at Converge’s previous game, they lost to Northport in a blowout, with a score of 135-109. So, I'm thinking maybe Converge will try to bounce back strong, and if they fall short, at least they'll cover the handicap.

The pick is CONVERGE +8.5 and a small amount for the moneyline.

That bet of yours is a bit risky kabayan as Meralco is a strong team in my opinion and if they win i think they will cover the spread.

Anyways, i will be betting on the second game between Magnolia and NorthPort which has a lower spread.

Magnolia -4.5 @1.80 vs NorthPort

With how Meralco established their leads in the last quarter I guess it's not a good timing though still got under 5 minutes before the game will be concluded, as long as there's time who knows, though knowing Meralco they will keep that big lead and just continue to play using their time advantage.

I like that Magnolia -4.5 kabayan but I'm out of coins, good luck !

The game started off exciting for Converge in the 1st quarter, but after that, Meralco took control, leading to a blowout loss for Converge. This explains why the handicap was so high—it seemed like a trap, and it turned out to be one.

In the 2nd game, the score is tied at 46 at halftime. It's uncertain whether Magnolia will take over in the 2nd half, but if they do, it could lead to a blowout win, with the spread easily being covered.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 04, 2024, 02:49:45 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 04, 2024, 01:53:04 AM

The first game today at 5 PM is between Meralco and Converge. Based on the betting odds and spread, Meralco is currently at -8.5, which makes them a heavy favorite to win the game. Looking at Converge’s previous game, they lost to Northport in a blowout, with a score of 135-109. So, I'm thinking maybe Converge will try to bounce back strong, and if they fall short, at least they'll cover the handicap.

The pick is CONVERGE +8.5 and a small amount for the moneyline.

That bet of yours is a bit risky kabayan as Meralco is a strong team in my opinion and if they win i think they will cover the spread.

Anyways, i will be betting on the second game between Magnolia and NorthPort which has a lower spread.

Magnolia -4.5 @1.80 vs NorthPort

With how Meralco established their leads in the last quarter I guess it's not a good timing though still got under 5 minutes before the game will be concluded, as long as there's time who knows, though knowing Meralco they will keep that big lead and just continue to play using their time advantage.

I like that Magnolia -4.5 kabayan but I'm out of coins, good luck !

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Quote from: Maslate on September 04, 2024, 01:53:04 AM

The first game today at 5 PM is between Meralco and Converge. Based on the betting odds and spread, Meralco is currently at -8.5, which makes them a heavy favorite to win the game. Looking at Converge’s previous game, they lost to Northport in a blowout, with a score of 135-109. So, I'm thinking maybe Converge will try to bounce back strong, and if they fall short, at least they'll cover the handicap.

The pick is CONVERGE +8.5 and a small amount for the moneyline.

That bet of yours is a bit risky kabayan as Meralco is a strong team in my opinion and if they win i think they will cover the spread.

Anyways, i will be betting on the second game between Magnolia and NorthPort which has a lower spread.

Magnolia -4.5 @1.80 vs NorthPort

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The first game today at 5 PM is between Meralco and Converge. Based on the betting odds and spread, Meralco is currently at -8.5, which makes them a heavy favorite to win the game. Looking at Converge’s previous game, they lost to Northport in a blowout, with a score of 135-109. So, I'm thinking maybe Converge will try to bounce back strong, and if they fall short, at least they'll cover the handicap.

The pick is CONVERGE +8.5 and a small amount for the moneyline.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 03, 2024, 07:41:30 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 05:54:04 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 03, 2024, 01:45:59 AM

We have two games for today but i'm more interested in the second game.

Ginebra vs NLEX, i'm betting for Ginebra to win this game as a loss will put them in the bottom of the standings as they already have two losses. A little bit risky of a bet as NLEX had a moral boosting win over SMB last Saturday but i trust Brownlee to get the job done.

Ginebra -4.5 @1.82 vs Road Warriors

Adjusments might start here as Gin kings will take this one to avoid another dissapointment, losing third time might bring some hates from their avid fans, so there's a big need for coach Tim's squad to re-organize and start winning games.

Good luck Kabayan!

I was late in betting, and I would have bet on Ginebra as well because I knew they'd bounce back. Now, Ginebra already has a comfortable lead, but I thought, why not have some fun with the odds? So I bet on NLEX to win the game by 11 points or more. The odds were 30x, so it should give a huge return on my 200 pesos bet.

Nice try kabayan but unfortunately Gin kings is not willing to let their fans down, beating their opponent with that wide huge of margins, I think they are now getting the idea I mean those new in their rotation, Holts and RJ is now getting their roles and if they continue playing like that together with JBL and Thompson that might established a good 2-way counter game system that may convert to more winnng games.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 05:54:04 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 02, 2024, 11:40:00 AM

Yeah, looks like an isolated thing for the SMB teams. Well, the conference is still quite long and all of these losses will be able to recover by them. Losing is part of it and it's true that they will lose some but win more. They still no doubt the teams that are contender for PBA and that's as always.

It might a different look if we won't see them in the finals, not sure if when was the last time but most of the time one of those SMC team is the one who's playing for the finals, maybe adjustments will happen and we will see them start winning again, just like how Mags take thier last game winning against 0 win Terrafima.

And that's why many fans have lost their appetites because we keep on seeing the same teams like the SMCs in the finals. But the last conference was actually good and a game changer. For the first time, Meralco has won its title and it is the rival company of the SMC, the MVP.
If we get to see this, I think that most of the teams will be handled or under by MVP as well and the PBA will be just a bunch of sister companies and teams under MVP and SMC.

Yeah right, though just reading a social media post about Akari showing interest in buying one of those 2 farm teams, it might be an interesting additional competitors if the management is willing to throw money to make a competitive squad, else, just like what happened with Converge, they ends up nothing and just going with the flow allowing SMC and MVP to continue their dominance.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 05:54:04 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 02, 2024, 11:40:00 AM

Yeah, looks like an isolated thing for the SMB teams. Well, the conference is still quite long and all of these losses will be able to recover by them. Losing is part of it and it's true that they will lose some but win more. They still no doubt the teams that are contender for PBA and that's as always.

It might a different look if we won't see them in the finals, not sure if when was the last time but most of the time one of those SMC team is the one who's playing for the finals, maybe adjustments will happen and we will see them start winning again, just like how Mags take thier last game winning against 0 win Terrafima.

And that's why many fans have lost their appetites because we keep on seeing the same teams like the SMCs in the finals. But the last conference was actually good and a game changer. For the first time, Meralco has won its title and it is the rival company of the SMC, the MVP.
If we get to see this, I think that most of the teams will be handled or under by MVP as well and the PBA will be just a bunch of sister companies and teams under MVP and SMC.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 05:54:04 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 03, 2024, 01:45:59 AM

We have two games for today but i'm more interested in the second game.

Ginebra vs NLEX, i'm betting for Ginebra to win this game as a loss will put them in the bottom of the standings as they already have two losses. A little bit risky of a bet as NLEX had a moral boosting win over SMB last Saturday but i trust Brownlee to get the job done.

Ginebra -4.5 @1.82 vs Road Warriors

Adjusments might start here as Gin kings will take this one to avoid another dissapointment, losing third time might bring some hates from their avid fans, so there's a big need for coach Tim's squad to re-organize and start winning games.

Good luck Kabayan!

I was late in betting, and I would have bet on Ginebra as well because I knew they'd bounce back. Now, Ginebra already has a comfortable lead, but I thought, why not have some fun with the odds? So I bet on NLEX to win the game by 11 points or more. The odds were 30x, so it should give a huge return on my 200 pesos bet.

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Quote from: blockman on September 02, 2024, 11:40:00 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 01, 2024, 10:40:50 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 01, 2024, 04:47:22 PM

It seems that the most of the SMB companies are experiencing heavy losses. Well, to me this is a good sign that other teams especially the uncommon ones are winning against them. Maybe through this, the confidence of the fans will be back and they'll be able to have that urge again to watch the games not just because of the 4-point shots but with the likes of having the games be back at their likings.

I do hope that this trend will continue but it seems to me that this is only isolated event, i mean that it is only part of the game that one of the two teams will lose. SMB is planning to change their import after incurring two consecutive losses which means that they will be back on the winning once their new import comes in, i hope that the article i read is true. BTW, Terrafirma Dyip is on another losing streak now, Cstand and Stanley Pringle remain winless on their new team.

Yeah, looks like an isolated thing for the SMB teams. Well, the conference is still quite long and all of these losses will be able to recover by them. Losing is part of it and it's true that they will lose some but win more. They still no doubt the teams that are contender for PBA and that's as always.

It might a different look if we won't see them in the finals, not sure if when was the last time but most of the time one of those SMC team is the one who's playing for the finals, maybe adjustments will happen and we will see them start winning again, just like how Mags take thier last game winning against 0 win Terrafima.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 03, 2024, 01:45:59 AM

We have two games for today but i'm more interested in the second game.

Ginebra vs NLEX, i'm betting for Ginebra to win this game as a loss will put them in the bottom of the standings as they already have two losses. A little bit risky of a bet as NLEX had a moral boosting win over SMB last Saturday but i trust Brownlee to get the job done.

Ginebra -4.5 @1.82 vs Road Warriors

Adjusments might start here as Gin kings will take this one to avoid another dissapointment, losing third time might bring some hates from their avid fans, so there's a big need for coach Tim's squad to re-organize and start winning games.

Good luck Kabayan!

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We have two games for today but i'm more interested in the second game.

Ginebra vs NLEX, i'm betting for Ginebra to win this game as a loss will put them in the bottom of the standings as they already have two losses. A little bit risky of a bet as NLEX had a moral boosting win over SMB last Saturday but i trust Brownlee to get the job done.

Ginebra -4.5 @1.82 vs Road Warriors

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 01, 2024, 10:40:50 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 01, 2024, 04:47:22 PM

It seems that the most of the SMB companies are experiencing heavy losses. Well, to me this is a good sign that other teams especially the uncommon ones are winning against them. Maybe through this, the confidence of the fans will be back and they'll be able to have that urge again to watch the games not just because of the 4-point shots but with the likes of having the games be back at their likings.

I do hope that this trend will continue but it seems to me that this is only isolated event, i mean that it is only part of the game that one of the two teams will lose. SMB is planning to change their import after incurring two consecutive losses which means that they will be back on the winning once their new import comes in, i hope that the article i read is true. BTW, Terrafirma Dyip is on another losing streak now, Cstand and Stanley Pringle remain winless on their new team.

Yeah, looks like an isolated thing for the SMB teams. Well, the conference is still quite long and all of these losses will be able to recover by them. Losing is part of it and it's true that they will lose some but win more. They still no doubt the teams that are contender for PBA and that's as always.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 02, 2024, 02:16:27 AM

Good point, though, because this import scored 50 points in one game, and his numbers are actually great. He just lacks the skills to finish games, especially when they’re close. Most of their losses have been in close games, so I think they’re looking for an import they can rely on to make a game-winning shot if necessary. Their introduction was already solid when JMF was a beast. I hope they stick with that strategy, so they remain unpredictable, as they have threats both inside and outside.

Exactly, with that type of game from JMF they should continue to feed him inside and rotate till he seen the open man, not sure but seems to me that something controls them, hahaha NLEX beats them in OT which I guess fans like me will be surprise, as they coming from a upset loss with their sister company and expected that they'll be bouncing back strong, but that's how PBA works right? hahaha.. kidding aside, still early and still have chance to bounce back.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 02, 2024, 12:35:20 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on September 01, 2024, 11:53:09 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 01, 2024, 10:40:50 PM

SMB is planning to change their import after incurring two consecutive losses which means that they will be back on the winning once their new import comes in, i hope that the article i read is true. BTW, Terrafirma Dyip is on another losing streak now, Cstand and Stanley Pringle remain winless on their new team.

They need a more athletic and mature import. Their import is still young and can't match up well against the best imports in the league right now. SMB is a tough team, loaded with great local players, so getting a good import is crucial to maintaining their dominance. However, this could also be risky, as chemistry might become an issue. Hopefully, they'll be able to get a good import because, if I'm not mistaken, under the rules, a team can only change their import once.

In papers, SMB don't need to change their previous import I think they need to change the system that they are executing, there's no plays as everyone who touches the ball wanted to take charge, that's the problem most of the time if you got a compilations of superstars, most if not all wanted to take that shots and make a good offensive contributions.

Though if they think that they need a new import who can play the system that they are running someone who can be a 2-way player who also can blend and jive with how the team play the game.

Good point, though, because this import scored 50 points in one game, and his numbers are actually great. He just lacks the skills to finish games, especially when they’re close. Most of their losses have been in close games, so I think they’re looking for an import they can rely on to make a game-winning shot if necessary. Their introduction was already solid when JMF was a beast. I hope they stick with that strategy, so they remain unpredictable, as they have threats both inside and outside.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 01, 2024, 11:53:09 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 01, 2024, 10:40:50 PM

SMB is planning to change their import after incurring two consecutive losses which means that they will be back on the winning once their new import comes in, i hope that the article i read is true. BTW, Terrafirma Dyip is on another losing streak now, Cstand and Stanley Pringle remain winless on their new team.

They need a more athletic and mature import. Their import is still young and can't match up well against the best imports in the league right now. SMB is a tough team, loaded with great local players, so getting a good import is crucial to maintaining their dominance. However, this could also be risky, as chemistry might become an issue. Hopefully, they'll be able to get a good import because, if I'm not mistaken, under the rules, a team can only change their import once.

In papers, SMB don't need to change their previous import I think they need to change the system that they are executing, there's no plays as everyone who touches the ball wanted to take charge, that's the problem most of the time if you got a compilations of superstars, most if not all wanted to take that shots and make a good offensive contributions.

Though if they think that they need a new import who can play the system that they are running someone who can be a 2-way player who also can blend and jive with how the team play the game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 01, 2024, 10:40:50 PM

SMB is planning to change their import after incurring two consecutive losses which means that they will be back on the winning once their new import comes in, i hope that the article i read is true. BTW, Terrafirma Dyip is on another losing streak now, Cstand and Stanley Pringle remain winless on their new team.

They need a more athletic and mature import. Their import is still young and can't match up well against the best imports in the league right now. SMB is a tough team, loaded with great local players, so getting a good import is crucial to maintaining their dominance. However, this could also be risky, as chemistry might become an issue. Hopefully, they'll be able to get a good import because, if I'm not mistaken, under the rules, a team can only change their import once.

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Quote from: blockman on September 01, 2024, 04:47:22 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 31, 2024, 12:03:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 31, 2024, 09:18:32 AM

That's unfortunate but we've got a lot of games to come except on Monday and for sure that you'll be able to get some of those losses back.
So, good luck with your next bets and hoping that you'll be able to cover your losses today from your next bets.

I didn't watch the game but I'm also surprise that SMB lose the game in OT, I was in the impression that they'll be bouncing back after that loss from Gin kings, PBA really tough to analyze just like what happened previously unexpected win from BW, beating Ginebra is something huge especially that the team who beated them is one of the well known farm team,.

It seems that the most of the SMB companies are experiencing heavy losses. Well, to me this is a good sign that other teams especially the uncommon ones are winning against them. Maybe through this, the confidence of the fans will be back and they'll be able to have that urge again to watch the games not just because of the 4-point shots but with the likes of having the games be back at their likings.

I do hope that this trend will continue but it seems to me that this is only isolated event, i mean that it is only part of the game that one of the two teams will lose. SMB is planning to change their import after incurring two consecutive losses which means that they will be back on the winning once their new import comes in, i hope that the article i read is true. BTW, Terrafirma Dyip is on another losing streak now, Cstand and Stanley Pringle remain winless on their new team.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 31, 2024, 12:03:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 31, 2024, 09:18:32 AM

That's unfortunate but we've got a lot of games to come except on Monday and for sure that you'll be able to get some of those losses back.
So, good luck with your next bets and hoping that you'll be able to cover your losses today from your next bets.

I didn't watch the game but I'm also surprise that SMB lose the game in OT, I was in the impression that they'll be bouncing back after that loss from Gin kings, PBA really tough to analyze just like what happened previously unexpected win from BW, beating Ginebra is something huge especially that the team who beated them is one of the well known farm team,.

It seems that the most of the SMB companies are experiencing heavy losses. Well, to me this is a good sign that other teams especially the uncommon ones are winning against them. Maybe through this, the confidence of the fans will be back and they'll be able to have that urge again to watch the games not just because of the 4-point shots but with the likes of having the games be back at their likings.

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What we are witnessing now is a massacre in progress.

DYIP, which has not won a game yet this conference, is struggling again. The first half is over, and they are down by 31 points against Magnolia. There's no way they'll come back against this strong team, so the bookies weren't wrong in giving them a +15.5 handicap before the game. Now, it seems like DYIP has become the worst team in the league, with most of their losses being blowouts.

The score is now 63-32.

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