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Quote from: Maslate on September 28, 2024, 12:24:33 AM

I’m leaning towards betting on the under 207.5 and SMB -7.5. I just have a feeling SMB will perform better this time around.

Looks tempting, but I'll stick with SMB winning with the spread, the higher, the better, as that looks convincing. The crowd might still favor Converge since they managed to cover the spread in their first meeting. However, SMB is still a healthy team, and in that game, Stockton, one of Converge's best offensive players, was pretty limited. If they can't get that offense going, it’s going to be impossible to beat a powerhouse team like SMB.

As for the second game, it's looking very even, but since I trust Brownlee, I'll stick with his team.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 27, 2024, 04:37:54 AM

An update, he's allowed to pay a fine of 24k pesos and his brother with 10k pesos.

So that’s the bail amount, right? I initially thought it was non-bailable, but after checking, it seems it is. Still, he's not out of trouble as the case continues, and his career has already been ruined.

Meanwhile, there's a game today. I'm not sure how Converge will bounce back, given how their offense disappeared in the last match, and their import really struggled against JMF’s inside presence. Considering that SMB’s import that time is still new and hasn't fully adjusted yet, I’m leaning towards betting on the under 207.5 and SMB -7.5. I just have a feeling SMB will perform better this time around.

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Here's the games for tonight:

I'm looking forward to the game of Meralco Bolts versus San Miguel Ginerbra tonight,
Meralco Bolts already lost their first match of the series, 92-99 is the score, it's a kinda of close game.
But tonight, I will be betting on the San Miguel Ginebra with odds of 1.75.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 27, 2024, 04:37:54 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 27, 2024, 02:42:50 AM

He's literally a "shooting" guard.
An update, he's allowed to pay a fine of 24k pesos and his brother with 10k pesos. There will be more of the story as the investigation goes on. Some side of the story says that the victim was also brave as he triggered Amores to call the shot.

There's another update on this news. He's being helped by some of the known in the league to get away with this.
And there's one post that I've read that he will still be given a chance to play. They're just posts from these basketball pages and there's no confirmation about that and you're right, there they go. They're riding the hype of this news.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 27, 2024, 09:09:05 AM

Quote from: Finestream on September 27, 2024, 05:45:07 AM

What’s your lean for the 2nd game?

The second game was really fun to watch. A lot of people lost their bets on TNT with that -6.5 spread, and they ended up losing the game. It was a great match, and TNT refused to give up, even when it seemed impossible for them to win. Now the series is tied, and as expected, the NLEX import was the biggest contributor, earning him Player of the Game. The final score was 93-90, which was way under the total line of 196.5 before the game started.

Congrats to the winners!
No rest for the bettors....there are games again tomorrow: SMB vs. Converge and Meralco vs. Ginebra. Can Meralco even the series?

Yeah right, TNT did tried everything to snatch this game but NLEX managed to keep that distance and like what you said the import really produced well to help his team to tied the series, it will be another interesting game for them as they both needed to adjust to counter both the offense and the defense of one another.

Moving forward to the upcoming games, will both SMC teams wins their respective games or it will also have the same outcomes either to tied the series or make that comfortable leads.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 27, 2024, 05:45:07 AM

What’s your lean for the 2nd game?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 27, 2024, 12:06:42 AM

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ROS -5.5 vs. Magnolia, and Road Warriors +6.5 against TNT. Honestly, I’m puzzled why ROS is favored by -5.5 when Magnolia almost beat them last time. Is there something we’re missing here?

Magnolia almost beat them but still it's a win for the wards of coach Yeng Guiao, that maybe the reason for that spread and also ROS is the number one ranked team in group B so that may also the reason why they are the favorite to win this game tonight.

But i will be backing the Hotshots this evening as they need to bounce back to even the series.

Magnolia ML @2.58, my bet for tonight.

Congratulations in advance ***this is an easy win for Magnolia. ROS is playing without an import, and the lead has ballooned to almost 40 points already. There’s no way ROS can come back with how they’re playing. Safe to say the series is now tied at 1 apiece.

What’s your lean for the 2nd game?

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Quote from: blockman on September 27, 2024, 02:42:50 AM

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Quote from: blockman on September 26, 2024, 04:03:22 PM

Yeah, this is a criminal offense and case.

A lot of memes have been popping up on social media about Amores..just wanted to share, lol.

Some say instead of “Amores,” it should be “Amokes” since he's quick to get angry. Another one swaps his current team Northport Batang Pier for "Northport Batang City Jail." And this one’s just hilarious...calling him the MVP, or “Most Violent Player.”

There's more for sure as vloggers and all those influencers who loves riding with the hot topic will continue to drag his name in each post that they'll going to create, knowing that they'll get attention to many people who also loves to hear about this shooting incident, Amores will gain that attention again it will take time.

Moving to the game, I like to see how Mags will try to bounce back and tie the series though ROS for sure will do everything to keep the distance,.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 09:55:16 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 26, 2024, 04:03:22 PM

Yeah, this is a criminal offense and case.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 27, 2024, 12:06:42 AM

Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 09:55:16 PM

ROS -5.5 vs. Magnolia, and Road Warriors +6.5 against TNT. Honestly, I’m puzzled why ROS is favored by -5.5 when Magnolia almost beat them last time. Is there something we’re missing here?

Magnolia is now at +3.5, which seems a bit suspicious. This movement likely means the public was all over the +5.5, prompting the bookie to shift the line. Not sure if Magnolia can pull off a win here, so I'll take a pass on this game. But I’ll be placing a bet on the under (211.5 points).

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Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 09:55:16 PM

ROS -5.5 vs. Magnolia, and Road Warriors +6.5 against TNT. Honestly, I’m puzzled why ROS is favored by -5.5 when Magnolia almost beat them last time. Is there something we’re missing here?

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Quote from: Natalim on September 26, 2024, 08:56:46 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 26, 2024, 02:59:13 AM

Ginebra -2.5, and I think under 196.5 since this looks like it's going to be a defensive game.

It's a win here.

Yup, and again JBL played so well and with that leadership expect that players who'll playing alongside with him will do the same, just wanted to highlight Japet's performance just like the old days bringing the ball back when there's opportunities that's an edge for GSM!

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 01:11:36 AM

I bet for Converge +7.5 @1.87 as i think SMB will be having hard time here adjusting with their new import, they may win but i think they will not cover the spread.

And a win too... their import is very physical resulting to the import of converge to struggle. SMB is just too much for converge, you got lucky in this bet as SMB were already leading by double digits but some careless plays gives the converge an opportunity to comeback, but due to lack of experience, they didn't completed it. just 0.5 ... a win is still a win though, congrats.

Very physical in terms of muscling his way to the basket, when watching the game it seems that SMB got 5 imports inside, JMF, Ross, Perez Lassiter and Anosike hahahaha, plus Encizo and Rosales who gave their shares individually..

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Quote from: blockman on September 26, 2024, 04:03:22 PM

Yeah, this is a criminal offense and case.

. Let’s talk about the upcoming games.

ROS -5.5 vs. Magnolia, and Road Warriors +6.5 against TNT. Honestly, I’m puzzled why ROS is favored by -5.5 when Magnolia almost beat them last time. Is there something we’re missing here?

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 25, 2024, 06:02:14 PM

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North Port's John Amores was once involved again but this time with a shooting incident.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/john-amores-involved-in-shooting-incident-in-laguna-a795-20240925)
For sure everyone still remembers the issue that he's got during his JRU days. This now, it's more brutal because it involves with a gun. Undecided

I watched the CCTV and it was identified that was him as the shooter in Lumban, Laguna. So, the root was also another basketball game.

I don't if he can still manage to proceed and play professinally, this man have a mental issue after that college incident being drafted is a opportunity to change but instead he was dominated by his pride, not concluding the reason but for me that's the reason behind he thinks that he's better than those people who played against him and instead of shaking his head and move forward he did what he thinks is better and now he'll suffer as it's no longer a case that he can easily take care but a serious crime that he needs to face, a possible end of career for him after this incident.

That draft in the PBA was his last chance. He can still play basketball but it's with the interbarangay. I don't think that the NorthPort will still allow him to play even if he'll be able to escape this situation that he's in right now. If he does, then that means that his family is quite influential or someone from behind is big for him to back and talk to these people involve and allow him to flee from the craziness that he's done. He has already surrendered but seems special treatment is given.

Quote from: freedomgo on September 26, 2024, 09:06:39 AM

Even though he didn't hit anyone or cause death, this is still a serious case, especially if his opponent is determined to pursue it

Yeah, this is a criminal offense and case.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 08:56:13 AM

Is his salary in the PBA not enough?

Based on what I've read, for non-starters, salaries range from ₱20,000 to ₱50,000. So he's not really earning a lot, but the issue isn't about money, it's about his attitude on the court. This isn't his first altercation; this one just escalated because he used a gun and intended to kill his opponent.

Even though he didn't hit anyone or cause death, this is still a serious case, especially if his opponent is determined to pursue it. If he does get released, I hope he won't retaliate. According to reports, they surrendered because they were hearing threats to their lives.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 26, 2024, 02:59:13 AM

Ginebra -2.5, and I think under 196.5 since this looks like it's going to be a defensive game.

It's a win here.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 01:11:36 AM

I bet for Converge +7.5 @1.87 as i think SMB will be having hard time here adjusting with their new import, they may win but i think they will not cover the spread.

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About John Amores incident. Good thing he didn't kill the victim, otherwise that would have been life imprisonment. That would be murder. This is just attempted murder now. What could have crossed his mind that made him want to kill? Was his anger toward the victim that intense? Imagine, you were just playing basketball, and the bet was only 4,000 PHP and yet you'd take to the point to killing? It's a good thing it ended there and stopped the violence about Amores otherwise, he might bring it to the PBA later on... Is his salary in the PBA not enough?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 01:11:36 AM

Back to the games, SMB and Converge will slug it out for the chance of going to the semis. I bet for Converge +7.5 @1.87 as i think SMB will be having hard time here adjusting with their new import, they may win but i think they will not cover the spread.

Seems to risky but yeah that's affects the game since chemistry is very important, if they will play with new import without any experienced playing with them yet, that's a big question if he can easily catch up with how individual talents of SMB works, let see if how they'll play the game and if SMB will manage to cover the handicap and win the game or converge will snatch it and upset them and the bettors that will support them in this upcoming game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 01:11:36 AM

I wasn't aware they had a new import. The previous one was really good but got injured... So EJ Anosike is their new import. You're right—they might face some chemistry issues, just like Magnolia's import last night who struggled due to lack of familiarity.

I'm with you here, since Converge’s import seems unstoppable, and they’ve really improved with him as the replacement.

For the first game, Meralco vs. Ginebra should be a great matchup. Ginebra is just a slight favorite, so I'm also going with the crowd favorite... Ginebra -2.5, and I think under 196.5 since this looks like it's going to be a defensive game.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 12:40:49 AM

In all the fights Amores has been involved in, they've all been basketball-related, and this one is the worst because he could be facing an attempted murder charge, which carries a 6 to 12-year prison sentence according to the law. It might even reach the maximum penalty since he fired at multiple people, risking the lives of innocent bystanders, and it's possible that he used an unlicensed firearm.

It’s over for him _ if it was just a fistfight, it might have been okay. But I also noticed how well-behaved he is in the PBA; I haven’t seen him involved in any brawls there. Going back to the situation, I feel sorry for his parents, especially since his sibling also end up in prison.

His basketball career is undoubtedly over. NorthPort will almost certainly remove him from the roster due to this incident, which is no laughing matter as it involves a life-threatening act.

Back to the games, SMB and Converge will slug it out for the chance of going to the semis. I bet for Converge +7.5 @1.87 as i think SMB will be having hard time here adjusting with their new import, they may win but i think they will not cover the spread.