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Quote from: goaldigger on October 19, 2022, 03:48:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on October 19, 2022, 03:36:48 PM

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

It's a been a long while since they are in that same spot if I remember it right, this team don't have that capabilities to compete with super teams and they are not doing anything to change that fate, the selection that they've got is not enough beating an ordinary squad what more facing SMC and Pangilinan group? Though they are still in the league, but maybe you are right, the chance of leaving the league is possible to happen if there's no improvement coming from this team.

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Quote from: goaldigger on October 19, 2022, 03:48:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on October 19, 2022, 03:36:48 PM

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

Well, there's a business behind their losses because trades and picks are going to be in favor of them so that's how they go. When they get the first pick, they'll be getting those that are good and rising stars and then eventually going to trade it to the stronger teams.
They've been called as the farm team in the league and that's why many don't like how it goes when there's a team that considers that strategy. Coach Yeng has already said that and that's why he's not going into that type of strategy and is aiming for a championship because that's how it should be.

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Quote from: goaldigger on October 19, 2022, 03:48:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on October 19, 2022, 03:36:48 PM

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

That’s the problem with that team, they are not working good as a team though they have good players as well it’s just that, it’s not enough for a professional league like this. Terrafirma might join the list of worst team to enter PBA, if they can’t still have a win then what more if they face top teams? They need a major adjustment if they still want to participate next conference which I believe they still want it.

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Quote from: blockman on October 19, 2022, 03:36:48 PM

We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

This is a sad situation for a team, they don’t join the league just to have this losing streak, it’s sad that after all their effort, they can’t still have a win. Their next big games might look impossible for them to win, but who knows? Terrafirma should have a good strategy and game play plan, they have some good players as well. The worst case is, Terrafirma might not join next conference because of their poor performance, lot of money being wasted here.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 18, 2022, 10:15:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on October 18, 2022, 09:59:42 AM

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

The current losing streak of TerraFirma is 25 and the longest is 29 by Blackwater bossing.

The next 3 games of TerraFirma are against Bay Area, Ginebra and TNT. I'm pretty sure that they will not win against Bay Area (and many will agree with me). TNT? I don't think so as well, but they might against Ginebra who lost twice against ROS and Phoenix which are both independent teams but if they lose, the streak will continue, and it will be 28 after that.

After that, it will be NorthPort, NLEX, SMB and their final game is against Phoenix. TBH, it's hard to imagine which team where TerraFirma has a chance to win after how they are playing this conference. Yes, Prosper is a legit import but the problem is the local players. There is lack of support coming from them even though Prosper is getting at least 20-20 per game. I agree with you that it's good to see a foreigner like him trying to learn Tagalog words and supporting other players like Kai Sotto. I might watch his video if he will try to eat some exotic PH foods like "balut" for example Cheesy

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We will see if Terrafirma is going to make themselves the new record holder for having a losing streak and will replace Bossing on that place. They don't really have the intention to win.
Well, just like the Bossings before, they have to make things new and approach on their own because it's not that good for them anymore unless they don't have that goal of getting to the playoffs and being in a championship.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 19, 2022, 03:02:48 AM

The game between Meralco and Phoenix, it was Phoenix who are controlling the game so far.

1st half is over, let's see if Meralco will have a big run to make it a close game.
Prior to this game, Meralco are -4.5 favorite, so hopefully bookies are correct on making this team the favorite.

remember that Phoenix came from the last 2 big wins.

Phoenix won the game and the part that even made me laugh a little and that on the prediction sites were giving Meralco as the favorite team, there were even comments from people who from what I read were very confident that Meralco would win the game, I even I asked where did so much confidence come from that Meralco would win? as I am not an experienced basketball punter so I decided to do more research and then follow the result, but my intuition told me that Phoenix would win the game, maybe in the table they are better than Meralco so if I were to bet on this game I would would have bet on Phoenix to win. I regret not having bet, I would have made a profit. but it was worth the experience because I'm starting to follow the philippines basketball I still have a lot to learn to be able to make good bets and make a profit

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 19, 2022, 06:37:26 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 19, 2022, 03:53:51 AM

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

But Blackwater this conference is not anymore a bad team, maybe they are below in ranking but they also win games in the all Filipino cup. DYIP is in a different state, it seems like they are finding a win which until now they still could not see one.

Actually all teams in PBA are strong enough but in case of Terrafirma and black water even though they are strong but other teams are stronger than them and that's the reason why they can't enter to the finals and some people are saying that they are farm teams which means very easy win for the other team if they face black water and Terrafirma but I thing I am sure if this team get a very strong player then without a doubt someday this team will shine.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 19, 2022, 03:53:51 AM

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

But Blackwater this conference is not anymore a bad team, maybe they are below in ranking but they also win games in the all Filipino cup. DYIP is in a different state, it seems like they are finding a win which until now they still could not see one.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 19, 2022, 02:34:23 AM

Quote from: blockman on October 18, 2022, 09:59:42 AM

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

Blackwater and Terrafirma are the worst team in the PBA, so it's not surprising if Terrafirma will keep losing and losing until they get tired. Good thing that Blackwater now are becoming a competitive team already, they also won some games already if I'm not mistaken, so hopefully, by next season there will be some changes on Terrafirma for the team to improve, or they should get a good import that will carry the team.

Blackwater is performing well while DYIP is far from winning games, both are classified as farm teams which viewers interest is not that much anymore, though some gamblers are using both teams to bet and make some good amount either using it for ML or Handicap the chance still good when picking against these team. If you are monitoring games inside the PBA, you'll be familiar with how both teams are playing and how you can place the kind of bet for your day.

Just be mindful since anything can happen just like how bossing upset SMB, who knows, maybe the next thing we see it's DYIP time to upset a super team..

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The game between Meralco and Phoenix, it was Phoenix who are controlling the game so far.

1st half is over, let's see if Meralco will have a big run to make it a close game.
Prior to this game, Meralco are -4.5 favorite, so hopefully bookies are correct on making this team the favorite.

remember that Phoenix came from the last 2 big wins.

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Quote from: blockman on October 18, 2022, 09:59:42 AM

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

Blackwater and Terrafirma are the worst team in the PBA, so it's not surprising if Terrafirma will keep losing and losing until they get tired. Good thing that Blackwater now are becoming a competitive team already, they also won some games already if I'm not mistaken, so hopefully, by next season there will be some changes on Terrafirma for the team to improve, or they should get a good import that will carry the team.

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Quote from: blockman on October 18, 2022, 09:59:42 AM

Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

The current losing streak of TerraFirma is 25 and the longest is 29 by Blackwater bossing.

The next 3 games of TerraFirma are against Bay Area, Ginebra and TNT. I'm pretty sure that they will not win against Bay Area (and many will agree with me). TNT? I don't think so as well, but they might against Ginebra who lost twice against ROS and Phoenix which are both independent teams but if they lose, the streak will continue, and it will be 28 after that.

After that, it will be NorthPort, NLEX, SMB and their final game is against Phoenix. TBH, it's hard to imagine which team where TerraFirma has a chance to win after how they are playing this conference. Yes, Prosper is a legit import but the problem is the local players. There is lack of support coming from them even though Prosper is getting at least 20-20 per game. I agree with you that it's good to see a foreigner like him trying to learn Tagalog words and supporting other players like Kai Sotto. I might watch his video if he will try to eat some exotic PH foods like "balut" for example Cheesy

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Terrafirma Dyip looks like the new Bossing BlackWater. They seem to have no intention and plans of winning and will be bashed continuously as a farm team.
Well, honestly, I like the energy of their import, Lester Prosper. The guy is very much active on social media and trying to learn more tagalog words as he tries to increase his followers.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 18, 2022, 02:24:33 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 18, 2022, 01:31:35 AM

Quote from: usekevin on October 17, 2022, 06:46:23 PM

Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.

Every team wants to win, they'll not only play to defeat the Dragons, but they also have only a main mission which is to win the championship. Dragons are just a good team, but so far not the best team based on what I've witnessed so far. I like to believe that if JMF was there, SMB surely have a decent chance of winning.

Let us not anymore discuss the game between SMB and Dragons if we will only think they win because JMF is not there, the same thing with Ginebra when they defeated the Dragons, Dragons were still in a transition period at that time, so they have a chemistry problem.

Let's just hope that everyone will come back healthy again, especially the star players so we will see a more entertaining game, like a close game.

Expect everything will be in place when the next round approach, a single round elimination, right? I'm expecting to see a good competition when the game is nearing to the semis, everyone will be at their best for sure, just like what you mentioned, lets forget about the visiting team's performance against both SMB and Ginebra, we won't be able to change the outcome as it was done, moving forward for their next game is more appropriate to discuss and how they will push their chase in winning the crown.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 18, 2022, 01:31:35 AM

Quote from: usekevin on October 17, 2022, 06:46:23 PM

Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.

Every team wants to win, they'll not only play to defeat the Dragons, but they also have only a main mission which is to win the championship. Dragons are just a good team, but so far not the best team based on what I've witnessed so far. I like to believe that if JMF was there, SMB surely have a decent chance of winning.

Let us not anymore discuss the game between SMB and Dragons if we will only think they win because JMF is not there, the same thing with Ginebra when they defeated the Dragons, Dragons were still in a transition period at that time, so they have a chemistry problem.

Let's just hope that everyone will come back healthy again, especially the star players so we will see a more entertaining game, like a close game.

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Quote from: usekevin on October 17, 2022, 06:46:23 PM

Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.

Every team wants to win, they'll not only play to defeat the Dragons, but they also have only a main mission which is to win the championship. Dragons are just a good team, but so far not the best team based on what I've witnessed so far. I like to believe that if JMF was there, SMB surely have a decent chance of winning.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 17, 2022, 08:03:49 AM

Will they meet again? Sorry for asking but I don't know if the guest team is qualified to be the champion at this conference.

In one article that has been posted by Rappler (even though I hate them for how bias they are), Kume Marcial already said that:

Quote from: Baofeng on October 16, 2022, 05:13:26 PM

I'm a bit disappointed with the Beermen, but yeah, without JMF they will have a hard time winning games. I thought that it's going to be close but they were blown away by the Bay Area Dragons.

And it just shows the JMF is still the heart and soul of the team, without him, they will be struggling. The good news is that he might be back before playoff but they still need to win some games without JMF.

A bit disappointed but at the same time, they have been exposed by the Dragons.

I don't want to judge just because of one game but it only shows that not having Fajardo playing have a huge impact towards the performance of the whole team. Now with Stone being replaced by a new import, Scott, I don't know how will the Beermen play on their next game because aside from JMF not playing, the chemistry might be affected because of this new import but nevertheless, it's a good move by them because Stone didn't play well on their last game though he played well in the last 2.

Adjustments will be made by the Beermen that's for sure. Coach Leo is a very good coach, and he also has very good players. Now that Fajardo expects to come back in the playoffs, this might affect their standings in the elimination. I just hope that even though JMF will not play, they will end up in the top 4 spot.

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Most probably the guest team will not win the championship.The own ground team made a dominating playing against the guest team.If this happened so,it will be the history making match.I had huge eager to see that match for sure.SMB loss with the Dragons was unexpected one from the SMB team.So now all the team will focus on the Dragons.They will try to eliminate the dragons in all the qualifiers stage.Hope it will not affect the game of Dragons.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 17, 2022, 08:03:49 AM

Sorry for asking but I don't know if the guest team is qualified to be the champion at this conference.

That's my question too before and I think someone raised that question here.

I think they are eligible to win the championship this conference and if that happened, that's the first time we will see a non-Filipino champion in a Filipino basketball league lol. With SMB losing recently against the Dragons, their chance of meeting up again will be after eliminations, maybe in quarterfinals, semis, and Finals.

I read an article before that Kume Marcial said that Bay Area Dragons were eligible for the championship in Governors Cup. PBA right now is currently running the Commissioners Cup so I will assume the same eligibility applied.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 17, 2022, 08:07:20 AM

I think SMB is going to replace their current import.

This news just came out,
https://pba.ph/news/beermen-tap-scott-to-replace-stone

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According to a team insider, Devon Scott has been tapped by the Beermen to replace Diamond Stone heading to a crucial stretch in their mid-season campaign.

My opinion here is, I think it's the right decision as Diamond Stone was inefficient on their game against the Dragon, they need an import who could carry the team, not the import that would be carried by the locals.

Watching his previous games, I agree that Stone didn’t perform well as an import which he should be on that spot since it’s the best time for imports to contribute. This might be a great move for SMB but I’m not sure if Scott is good, need to see his game first again. SMB should be able to fill the spot of JMF, that can be a crucial decision for them and SMB have to stay compose if they really want to go into the next round.

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