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September 20, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
I will translate this, A.Chua said we want Malonzo. Com. Marcial said, sure boss all yours. Papers are on the table all sets and good to go!
Haha!  Cheesy
That's always way to go if it's for the sisters company trades. But if it's for the other teams that's not part of MVP and SMC, they'll just reject the trade.
Well, what a joke when people think of these trades are becoming always favorable to these powerful and rich teams.
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September 20, 2022, 06:05:11 AM
I will translate this, A.Chua said we want Malonzo. Com. Marcial said, sure boss all yours. Papers are on the table all sets and good to go!



Nice translation and that will probably happen very soon.

Well, PBA league is losing its popularity already, players are leaving, so I'm pretty sure they will find a way to make it popular again. I'm hoping that they will make big changes and that they would listen to the fans to give way to more teams joining the PBA.
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September 20, 2022, 03:59:31 AM
Anyone came across this trade posted on social media:

Jamie Malonzo to Ginebra in exchange for Arvin Tolentino, Jeff Chan, Prince Caperal, and Kent Salado.

Ginebra will also be acquiring Von Pessumal once NorthPort acquired him from San Miguel in exchange for future draft picks.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?


I’m about to ask the same question here after browsing this in social media, it looks like the status is still pending but possible to happen. MVP and SMC group are just playing around, shuffling the players in exchange of money. Ginebra is a loaded team and even if they trade those players, other key players will perform, let’s just see it PBA will approve this trade which of course they will because it’s SMC, I just can’t see if this is worth it or not.
Trade usually involve large amount of money and with that Ginebra disposing their old players and getting a new one which is more fit for their game plays, I think that can still be a win win situation for Ginebra. Though some rumors are saying that they are just doing this for Ginebra first and later on will be traded to SMB. The commissioner cap is about to start, I don’t know the adjustment for the teams and players if this trade push through but I see Northport to become more competitive.

A farm team don't have any capabilities to avoid things to happen, we all understand that money is flowing from SMB companies and they don't have any problem in paying huge amount but if you are a legit and independent plus a competitive team, you won't allow such kind of trades to happen, Malonzo still young and a promising star compared to oldies and bench players that's really a big No but nothing is impossible for SMB as the trade already executed and PBA allow them to acquire the promising star.


That's the power of SMC teams, they can acquire good players from lower teams in exchange for their bench players lol Grin

And the PBA will call it "fair" and "balanced".

Watch out for the next episode of balanced trade. Smiley

I will translate this, A.Chua said we want Malonzo. Com. Marcial said, sure boss all yours. Papers are on the table all sets and good to go!

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September 20, 2022, 12:24:11 AM
Anyone came across this trade posted on social media:

Jamie Malonzo to Ginebra in exchange for Arvin Tolentino, Jeff Chan, Prince Caperal, and Kent Salado.

Ginebra will also be acquiring Von Pessumal once NorthPort acquired him from San Miguel in exchange for future draft picks.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?


It's true. This already happened yesterday alongside the controversial 3-way trade between NLEX-TNT-Blackwater.
Just right after the MVP teams are finding ways to be better, SMC teams also made a controversial trade that will make them stronger as well.

PBA doesn't fail to disappoint me especially with these unequal trades. Grin Grin. Ginebra got Malonzo in exchange for 3 bench players and Tolentino who is their starter last conference. Still the trade was imbalanced. The only good thing that I see with this trade is Pessumal being traded to Ginebra. He is a very good three-point shooter and there was a time where he shot, I think 7 or 8 consecutive three-point shots. The problem with him being in SMB is how star-studded the team is; therefore, he isn't given that much time to play. Now with him in the Ginebra where they lack three-point shooters, he might be given more time there.

I don't know if the PBA management is just too dumb to ignore the real problem with the league or they really just ignoring it because they see the league as a business. Sorry for the word "dumb" but that's the exact word to use for them IMO. They are complaining with other countries for the PH players being "poached" while on the other hand, they are allowing these unequal and controversial trades. What an irony it is. I'm a PBA fan but I'll just hope that PH players who has talent in basketball will just play outside PH. More salary, more competition.
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September 19, 2022, 08:00:43 PM
And SMB's import is also a big man. I don't know how other teams will compete at a much powerhouse SMB. CJ Perez is also playing at a top level of his career. He is dangerous even Terrence Romeo will not come back next season.

SMB is again will be the Favorite to win the championship for sure

They will be too hard to deal with for sure. They are already a strong team in all Filipino cup and now that they have a strong import, they will be much stronger.

SMB supporters will be glad for sure for having Thomas Robinson on their lineup, but I am sure they would be sad to see the odds on every game of SMB.

I doubt bookies will give a good odd for SMB. They are already too powerful. They dominated PBA last conference, no doubt they will dominate this conference as well.



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September 19, 2022, 06:59:26 PM
This time, I don't think Ginebra will win the championship again despite having Brownlee who is undeniably a good import, why? Because with a healthy Fajardo, he can still dominate inside and with the help of their import, it will be easier for him. If we have a championship odds now, I'm guessing SMB will be the top favorites to win.

SMB is like having 2 imports in the upcoming conference now that JuneMar Fajardo is playing like in his prime. In the last conference, he is consistent in doing a monster performance from eliminations, quarterfinals, and semi-finals up to the Finals. Only an import can stop him but if that's the case, how can teams able to stop the real import of SMB?

SMB is like a tough team to beat again. CJ Perez is also playing in his prime and Terrene Romeo might return next conference. There are also other big men in the SMB that is tough to guard like Mo Tautaa and Vic Manuel. A powerhouse team.

I agree with that, they are the powerhouse team now because Fajardo is healthy already. Mo Tautua alone can give problem to an import, so the import of the SMB is so lucky that he does not have to carry the team or defend well as there are other players that could do that.

And SMB's import is also a big man. I don't know how other teams will compete at a much powerhouse SMB. CJ Perez is also playing at a top level of his career. He is dangerous even Terrence Romeo will not come back next season.

SMB is again will be the Favorite to win the championship for sure
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September 19, 2022, 06:50:06 PM

That's the power of SMC teams, they can acquire good players from lower teams in exchange for their bench players lol Grin

And the PBA will call it "fair" and "balanced".

Watch out for the next episode of balanced trade. Smiley
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September 19, 2022, 04:47:47 PM
Anyone came across this trade posted on social media:

Jamie Malonzo to Ginebra in exchange for Arvin Tolentino, Jeff Chan, Prince Caperal, and Kent Salado.

Ginebra will also be acquiring Von Pessumal once NorthPort acquired him from San Miguel in exchange for future draft picks.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?


I’m about to ask the same question here after browsing this in social media, it looks like the status is still pending but possible to happen. MVP and SMC group are just playing around, shuffling the players in exchange of money. Ginebra is a loaded team and even if they trade those players, other key players will perform, let’s just see it PBA will approve this trade which of course they will because it’s SMC, I just can’t see if this is worth it or not.
Trade usually involve large amount of money and with that Ginebra disposing their old players and getting a new one which is more fit for their game plays, I think that can still be a win win situation for Ginebra. Though some rumors are saying that they are just doing this for Ginebra first and later on will be traded to SMB. The commissioner cap is about to start, I don’t know the adjustment for the teams and players if this trade push through but I see Northport to become more competitive.
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September 19, 2022, 04:16:52 PM
Anyone came across this trade posted on social media:

Jamie Malonzo to Ginebra in exchange for Arvin Tolentino, Jeff Chan, Prince Caperal, and Kent Salado.

Ginebra will also be acquiring Von Pessumal once NorthPort acquired him from San Miguel in exchange for future draft picks.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?


I’m about to ask the same question here after browsing this in social media, it looks like the status is still pending but possible to happen. MVP and SMC group are just playing around, shuffling the players in exchange of money. Ginebra is a loaded team and even if they trade those players, other key players will perform, let’s just see it PBA will approve this trade which of course they will because it’s SMC, I just can’t see if this is worth it or not.
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September 19, 2022, 01:04:11 PM
Anyone came across this trade posted on social media:

Jamie Malonzo to Ginebra in exchange for Arvin Tolentino, Jeff Chan, Prince Caperal, and Kent Salado.

Ginebra will also be acquiring Von Pessumal once NorthPort acquired him from San Miguel in exchange for future draft picks.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?
It seems official, I saw that in many basketball news and pages that this trade has already been confirmed and is about to be executed. I don't think that there will ever be changes to this trade.
The funny part is that most of the reactions were haha and this is what seems to be the joke on this legendary Asian basketball league. It seems that there's no more respect for anything that PBA do within their league. That's what they're up to and trying to mend that part, it's not that late on their part.
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September 19, 2022, 12:43:29 PM
Anyone came across this trade posted on social media:

Jamie Malonzo to Ginebra in exchange for Arvin Tolentino, Jeff Chan, Prince Caperal, and Kent Salado.

Ginebra will also be acquiring Von Pessumal once NorthPort acquired him from San Miguel in exchange for future draft picks.

Can anyone confirm if this is true?

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September 19, 2022, 12:10:04 PM
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Ginebra will still be at a good position here since they have a good chemistry with Brownlee and they already know how to play the game so this will be a big challenge to other team. SMB having a good import will make them a better team, I’m also not familiar with their imports but I’m sure the locals will adjust and that could be a big game for every team. I’m rooting for new teams to play their best and be on top, this is still possible this conference.
SMB seems well established for this year's season. They might have imports but I guess they're comfortable defending as a team and yes, they will be a big challenge to other teams. Having an import will be an advantage if they will get a good player and it seems that they had a good choice so many fans are supporting and rooting for their team again. They have a good line up this time.

Imports have a big impact to the team performance though it's a role game and import alone can't do everything if the other team got 5 players who are moving the ball well, import will be exhausted and at the end of the game they will mostly lose. I also wanted to see a good independent team to be competitive with a guest team and with a big franchise who is known to be dominating this league. It's nice to see someone who will be stepping up and accepting the challenges.

In a Filipino term, "Papalag" though by looking to the current lineup superior lineup of both SMB and MVP teams are still have that upper hands and maybe, aside from that guest team it will still one of SMB or MVP that will win the title.
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Ginebra will still be at a good position here since they have a good chemistry with Brownlee and they already know how to play the game so this will be a big challenge to other team. SMB having a good import will make them a better team, I’m also not familiar with their imports but I’m sure the locals will adjust and that could be a big game for every team. I’m rooting for new teams to play their best and be on top, this is still possible this conference.
SMB seems well established for this year's season. They might have imports but I guess they're comfortable defending as a team and yes, they will be a big challenge to other teams. Having an import will be an advantage if they will get a good player and it seems that they had a good choice so many fans are supporting and rooting for their team again. They have a good line up this time.

The main reason is Fajardo, he is now healthy, back on his MVP form so it's normal that fans think SMB will be the heavy favorite to win the championship. Ginebra has been an exciting team to follow as well as Brownlee would always gives surprises, so it's gonna be a fun conference again.
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September 19, 2022, 12:07:37 AM
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Ginebra will still be at a good position here since they have a good chemistry with Brownlee and they already know how to play the game so this will be a big challenge to other team. SMB having a good import will make them a better team, I’m also not familiar with their imports but I’m sure the locals will adjust and that could be a big game for every team. I’m rooting for new teams to play their best and be on top, this is still possible this conference.
SMB seems well established for this year's season. They might have imports but I guess they're comfortable defending as a team and yes, they will be a big challenge to other teams. Having an import will be an advantage if they will get a good player and it seems that they had a good choice so many fans are supporting and rooting for their team again. They have a good line up this time.
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September 18, 2022, 06:55:10 PM
I agree with that, they are the powerhouse team now because Fajardo is healthy already. Mo Tautua alone can give problem to an import, so the import of the SMB is so lucky that he does not have to carry the team or defend well as there are other players that could do that.

Fajardo is already a problem defending, then another one is their import, that was a tough challenge on every team. There's also Mo Tautaa as you mentioned who is strong in the paint too and can do dunks always as he got near the rim.

Looks like another SMB championship is waiving at them in the next conference.
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September 18, 2022, 06:31:48 PM
But Brownlee can always make a difference, that's why Ginebra will always get him as their import. There are times in the past when SMB have a healthy Fajardo and yet Brownlee can still beat them. I think next to SMB, Ginebra will have a chance of winning a championship also, which makes this commissioner's cup more interesting to watch.

Brownlee is already past his prime. He is already showing signs of slowing down.

Compare before, he always attack the basket but if we noticed the last conference we saw him playing at Ginebra, he is more of doing perimeter and 3-point shots now. We can see him also doing several assists now.

SMB is composed of more big men now aside from the import. Ginebra with Brownlee will have a hard time if ever they will meet SMB in the Finals.
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September 18, 2022, 06:20:23 PM
What PBA needs to do is to focus on making the league better again, there's a lot of issues that they need to address PBA should start working on that.
They're not addressing it, they only addressed it because they're being called out and that made them nervous. The answers given by the comms aren't even enticing to hear and they only think of themselves. I just hope that B League would boycott the meeting that they'll about to have with the comms.

What would boycotting the meeting do? It will just worsen the relationship between the two leagues. It is better if they can come up with something that would benefit both leagues and the players as well.

I do not know if it is still in effect, but I think college players who do not want to get drafted into PBA are not able to play in PBA at all. If they can come up with a resolution that players can join b league and can still play in PBA after their contracts expire, it will be good for the league and the players.
The B League is making the PBA as a farm team, while the PBA has got teams as a farm team and we all know about it. The boycotting will just lead the management of PBA to be softened their decisions. It doesn't look good as they're stopping these great players to have a good career overseas.
For sure with the tightening of SBP and PBA, the great college basketball player athletes won't allow themselves to get drafted into PBA and will just accept good offers from B League and other leagues like KBL, etc.
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September 18, 2022, 05:52:42 PM
But Brownlee can always make a difference, that's why Ginebra will always get him as their import. There are times in the past when SMB have a healthy Fajardo and yet Brownlee can still beat them. I think next to SMB, Ginebra will have a chance of winning a championship also, which makes this commissioner's cup more interesting to watch.

I also think that way. Brownlee does make a big difference. Aside from his athleticism, he also played a long time with Ginebra. They already know each other and have good chemistry. I do not know who the import of San Miguel will be, but I guess there will be adjustments between the locals and the import. While Ginebra will not go through that adjustment. We will see how these teams will perform once the conference starts.
Ginebra will still be at a good position here since they have a good chemistry with Brownlee and they already know how to play the game so this will be a big challenge to other team. SMB having a good import will make them a better team, I’m also not familiar with their imports but I’m sure the locals will adjust and that could be a big game for every team. I’m rooting for new teams to play their best and be on top, this is still possible this conference.
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September 18, 2022, 05:12:31 PM
But Brownlee can always make a difference, that's why Ginebra will always get him as their import. There are times in the past when SMB have a healthy Fajardo and yet Brownlee can still beat them. I think next to SMB, Ginebra will have a chance of winning a championship also, which makes this commissioner's cup more interesting to watch.

I also think that way. Brownlee does make a big difference. Aside from his athleticism, he also played a long time with Ginebra. They already know each other and have good chemistry. I do not know who the import of San Miguel will be, but I guess there will be adjustments between the locals and the import. While Ginebra will not go through that adjustment. We will see how these teams will perform once the conference starts.

IMO, they are so greedy if they will prevent players in playing overseas because it's a success of their careers.

But they cannot do it now because some PBA players are in demand abroad. They can do what they want once player sign a contract as long as it's written in the contract, however, they cannot prevent the fans of thinking that they are desperate enough to keep their players.  Sad
Players want to earn more and get’s more experience abroad, it can easily be done once you are free from any contract but if you are still under the contract, the association won’t allow you to play to other teams or in abroad that is how it works since then. That player should know that the moment he signed the contract, SBP can’t be blame here since they are not preventing players here to play abroad, it’s just that they are implementing the rules and regulations especially if they are under the contract.

Aside from Ravena, I cannot recall any player who played abroad bridging a contract. They are professionals and they know that bridging a contract will hurt them very much. Luckily for Ravena, his issues was resolved that is why he is still playing in B league. I am not just sure how the ironed that out. Maybe someone here knows.
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September 18, 2022, 04:03:00 PM
IMO, they are so greedy if they will prevent players in playing overseas because it's a success of their careers.

But they cannot do it now because some PBA players are in demand abroad. They can do what they want once player sign a contract as long as it's written in the contract, however, they cannot prevent the fans of thinking that they are desperate enough to keep their players.  Sad
Players want to earn more and get’s more experience abroad, it can easily be done once you are free from any contract but if you are still under the contract, the association won’t allow you to play to other teams or in abroad that is how it works since then. That player should know that the moment he signed the contract, SBP can’t be blame here since they are not preventing players here to play abroad, it’s just that they are implementing the rules and regulations especially if they are under the contract.
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