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May 31, 2022, 09:36:43 AM
Ravena is really overrated, he has the talent but he is not the type of player that could carry the team in the Finals. NLEX is still not a championship team even with Ravena playing, that's the reality, so maybe they'll improve a bit but they'll never be in the Finals.
You might see them getting into the finals once the players of top teams already retired, as you can see some of them are getting older already and of course they are not that good anymore. NLEX is also a good team, they almost got a good spot last governors cup and since this is also an MVP team, most probably they have a good budget to acquire more good players and by this, they can have that finals appearance so never say never.  Smiley
Some great players will retire soon but the team will not allow their team will be trash once their star players will retire. Just like the SMB, they acquired CJ Perez and traded some old players already because they want to build the young players to lead the team in the future. A great team for me is not because there are old or young players on it, it's the entire team's capability to win, and they work like a team not by relying on a single player alone to carry the team behind his back.

The very reason why it's a 5 man team, it's not just a single player who can dominate, even Fajardo on his primes needs the powerhouse teammates, he's been surrounded by great players, Santos, Cabagnot, Lassiter and Ross all are star calibers and not just relying to Fajardos shoulders. In terms of old and youngsters, it's still depends on how the management will balance the entire squad plus the influence of the coaching staff to develop the chemistries and brotherhood inside the team.

Maybe NLEX is still not that championship caliber, but the fact that it's a MVP group, we will never know what will be the future of this team.
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May 31, 2022, 08:54:02 AM
Ravena is really overrated, he has the talent but he is not the type of player that could carry the team in the Finals. NLEX is still not a championship team even with Ravena playing, that's the reality, so maybe they'll improve a bit but they'll never be in the Finals.
You might see them getting into the finals once the players of top teams already retired, as you can see some of them are getting older already and of course they are not that good anymore. NLEX is also a good team, they almost got a good spot last governors cup and since this is also an MVP team, most probably they have a good budget to acquire more good players and by this, they can have that finals appearance so never say never.  Smiley
Some great players will retire soon but the team will not allow their team will be trash once their star players will retire. Just like the SMB, they acquired CJ Perez and traded some old players already because they want to build the young players to lead the team in the future. A great team for me is not because there are old or young players on it, it's the entire team's capability to win, and they work like a team not by relying on a single player alone to carry the team behind his back.
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May 31, 2022, 07:55:13 AM
Ravena is really overrated, he has the talent but he is not the type of player that could carry the team in the Finals. NLEX is still not a championship team even with Ravena playing, that's the reality, so maybe they'll improve a bit but they'll never be in the Finals.
You might see them getting into the finals once the players of top teams already retired, as you can see some of them are getting older already and of course they are not that good anymore. NLEX is also a good team, they almost got a good spot last governors cup and since this is also an MVP team, most probably they have a good budget to acquire more good players and by this, they can have that finals appearance so never say never.  Smiley
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May 31, 2022, 07:36:46 AM
So what Ravena is trying to do here?

Is he playing safe but in the end will put NLEX hanging when he got his contract renewed?
I don't like that, he was thinking that he is a valuable piece of superstar and that the team would go after him, maybe as a sign of respect, he must make his decision final before reaching out the NLEX.

As far as my knowledge about that is concerned, Kiefer Ravena can manage to play at the "whole" PBA All-Filipino Cup Conference that's why even though there's a new contract offered to him in Japan B-league, he can still help NLEX this upcoming conference on their rally. NLEX has no choice though as they are not even active in the trading market if there's a possibility to totally trade Ravena. Even Coach Yeng is interested in keeping him for the team.

We can call it disrespectful if, in the middle of the conference, he left out for the team just to accept the new offer to play in Japan.

Yeah, sounds special, and seems K. Ravena is overrated to me but that's what the agreement they have signed up.

Ravena is really overrated, he has the talent but he is not the type of player that could carry the team in the Finals. NLEX is still not a championship team even with Ravena playing, that's the reality, so maybe they'll improve a bit but they'll never be in the Finals.
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May 29, 2022, 06:15:40 PM
So what Ravena is trying to do here?

Is he playing safe but in the end will put NLEX hanging when he got his contract renewed?
I don't like that, he was thinking that he is a valuable piece of superstar and that the team would go after him, maybe as a sign of respect, he must make his decision final before reaching out the NLEX.

As far as my knowledge about that is concerned, Kiefer Ravena can manage to play at the "whole" PBA All-Filipino Cup Conference that's why even though there's a new contract offered to him in Japan B-league, he can still help NLEX this upcoming conference on their rally. NLEX has no choice though as they are not even active in the trading market if there's a possibility to totally trade Ravena. Even Coach Yeng is interested in keeping him for the team.

We can call it disrespectful if, in the middle of the conference, he left out for the team just to accept the new offer to play in Japan.

Yeah, sounds special, and seems K. Ravena is overrated to me but that's what the agreement they have signed up.
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May 29, 2022, 12:03:24 PM


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Isang linggo na lang, game na ulit!

Panoorin ang PBA Season 47 Philippine Cup simula June 5 sa TV5, One Sports, at PBA Rush!

One week to wait and we will see the PBA back again.

What team is your bet to win the Finals?
My prediction is TNT vs Ginebra again, but this time TNT will win.

Something to watch out, TNT is a strong team but compared to a healthy Gin kings the matchup if ever both teams meet in the finals will be more on the Ginebra side, but we should not forget SMB, we witness how Fajardo regain his footsteps and how dominant he is during the seagames, Pairing him with CJ and TR7 is also something to watchout.

Few more days and us gamblers will be enjoying back, good to see another sets of sharing ideas here.

More games, more chance to pick and bet!
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May 29, 2022, 10:07:34 AM


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Isang linggo na lang, game na ulit!

Panoorin ang PBA Season 47 Philippine Cup simula June 5 sa TV5, One Sports, at PBA Rush!

One week to wait and we will see the PBA back again.

What team is your bet to win the Finals?
My prediction is TNT vs Ginebra again, but this time TNT will win.
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May 29, 2022, 08:55:13 AM

Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?

So his contract with Japan's B league is over?

That's what I'm saying, contracts overseas are mostly short-term only, that's why some PBA players just choose to stay in the PBA so they have an assurance that they'll continue to receive their salary for the long term. I guess Ravena spoke well to the management before he left the PBA, so I expect that the management will accept his comeback as well.

As per below, his one-year contract has expired but he may be extended as there are rumors that a new contract has been offered so their meeting must be for another arrangement like before where he plays in the PBA while it is off-season in the Japan B-league and fly to Japan when the season there open, to me this arrangement will not do well with NLEX. It is better for them to let go Ravena and let him pay for the remaining contract that he has with them as he can't help in their campaign for the championship.

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Ravena’s one-year deal with Shiga Lakestars in the Japan B.League already expired, but SPIN.ph learned from people close to the Filipino guard that a new contract offer has been put on the table.


So what Ravena is trying to do here?

Is he playing safe but in the end will put NLEX hanging when he got his contract renewed?
I don't like that, he was thinking that he is a valuable piece of superstar and that the team would go after him, maybe as a sign of respect, he must make his decision final before reaching out the NLEX.
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May 29, 2022, 08:50:22 AM

As per below, his one-year contract has expired but he may be extended as there are rumors that a new contract has been offered so their meeting must be for another arrangement like before where he plays in the PBA while it is off-season in the Japan B-league and fly to Japan when the season there open, to me this arrangement will not do well with NLEX. It is better for them to let go Ravena and let him pay for the remaining contract that he has with them as he can't help in their campaign for the championship.




What kind of special treatment the PBA is giving this player, if he will go back and play in Japan B-league better to stay and focused
just like how his younger brother is doing right now. There are more young aspirants that can fill his spot and be rewarded to play in this league. If he's signing for NLEX, he should play for the whole contract that he has.

Just how you see it, NLEX might not benefit from this kind of deal, though knowing him and the legacy of his father with a close connection with the Pangilinan it won't be bothered,.

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May 29, 2022, 06:27:07 AM

Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?

So his contract with Japan's B league is over?

That's what I'm saying, contracts overseas are mostly short-term only, that's why some PBA players just choose to stay in the PBA so they have an assurance that they'll continue to receive their salary for the long term. I guess Ravena spoke well to the management before he left the PBA, so I expect that the management will accept his comeback as well.

As per below, his one-year contract has expired but he may be extended as there are rumors that a new contract has been offered so their meeting must be for another arrangement like before where he plays in the PBA while it is off-season in the Japan B-league and fly to Japan when the season there open, to me this arrangement will not do well with NLEX. It is better for them to let go Ravena and let him pay for the remaining contract that he has with them as he can't help in their campaign for the championship.

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Ravena’s one-year deal with Shiga Lakestars in the Japan B.League already expired, but SPIN.ph learned from people close to the Filipino guard that a new contract offer has been put on the table.
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May 29, 2022, 05:31:59 AM

Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?

So his contract with Japan's B league is over?

That's what I'm saying, contracts overseas are mostly short-term only, that's why some PBA players just choose to stay in the PBA so they have an assurance that they'll continue to receive their salary for the long term. I guess Ravena spoke well to the management before he left the PBA, so I expect that the management will accept his comeback as well.
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May 28, 2022, 06:00:01 PM
^^ Have not seen Darvin Ham play in the PBA, I must have been very busy that time lol.

Anyways it's good that one former import of our beloved PBA got the chance to coach the LA Lakers, who knows he might give the franchise some championship rings before retiring/being kicked out.

Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?
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May 28, 2022, 05:33:12 PM

The last post here was May 24th and the thread is now on the 3rd page for the first time. Let's give it a bump.

I know you encounter the news already that Darvin Ham is the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. He plays as an import for the Talk N Text before. His name got hyped when he enter the PBA because he is part of the Championship Roster of the Detroit Pistons that won a championship against the Los Angeles Lakers way back in 2004. I won't forget that series because I lost my bet that time. Although not much used on the whole series, Darvin Ham is still a champion.

If some guys here watch PBA before, there's an iconic moment between Darvin Ham and Ranidel Ocampo. They both did a facial dunk with each other, first by Darvin Ham then Ranidel gets his revenge. It was called "in your face!" during that time.
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May 24, 2022, 09:27:44 AM

I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

Since no one is to blame him but Coach Chot, he should be admitted that he's the reason for the failed campaign of PH in a much easy competition of basketball in the SEA Games. I think only 7-8 players play in that game. Can you imagine that? We are playing in a Gold stage then the roster is not complete? That's how brilliant Coach Chot is hehe.

And why was Coach Tab replaced? Find the article way back in 2020 about Coach Chot's statement regarding foreign Coaches and the status of PH basketball when handled by a foreign coach. I will try to find it later.

For sure, you will be disappointed once you read that article.

Actually, it's not necessary to read whatever article we can, by seeing the result and comparing the performance of coach Chot and coach Tab, you can already tell the big difference. Thing is, coach Chot brings most TNT players only, while coach Tab sees the players with a true potential.

All members of the team Philippines even players, coaches, and other team members want to claim a victory and claim the gold medal. But sad to say they did not have their lucky day and all they got is a silver medal.  Even though they failed now but I assure next time they will make it, now they made a mistake nextime they must watch or plan every single move they do to prevent this kind of loss and claim the gold medal.
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May 23, 2022, 08:11:34 PM
I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

Since no one is to blame him but Coach Chot, he should be admitted that he's the reason for the failed campaign of PH in a much easy competition of basketball in the SEA Games. I think only 7-8 players play in that game. Can you imagine that? We are playing in a Gold stage then the roster is not complete? That's how brilliant Coach Chot is hehe.

And why was Coach Tab replaced? Find the article way back in 2020 about Coach Chot's statement regarding foreign Coaches and the status of PH basketball when handled by a foreign coach. I will try to find it later.

For sure, you will be disappointed once you read that article.

Actually, it's not necessary to read whatever article we can, by seeing the result and comparing the performance of coach Chot and coach Tab, you can already tell the big difference. Thing is, coach Chot brings most TNT players only, while coach Tab sees the players with a true potential.
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May 23, 2022, 06:58:21 PM
I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

Since no one is to blame him but Coach Chot, he should be admitted that he's the reason for the failed campaign of PH in a much easy competition of basketball in the SEA Games. I think only 7-8 players play in that game. Can you imagine that? We are playing in a Gold stage then the roster is not complete? That's how brilliant Coach Chot is hehe.

And why was Coach Tab replaced? Find the article way back in 2020 about Coach Chot's statement regarding foreign Coaches and the status of PH basketball when handled by a foreign coach. I will try to find it later.

For sure, you will be disappointed once you read that article.
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May 23, 2022, 02:55:15 AM

WTF Gilas. Even SMC teams in the PBA can beat team Indonesia. Coach Chot was too comfortable. I previously posted here my concern that Gilas struggles in Thailand during their first match in SEA Games which shows already what's the problem. Damn Chot, sitting out LeBron Lopez for most of the time where he's one of the good assets there to bring the ball down. The Ravena brothers seem tired already and Chot may be like these guys for real (don't take it seriously). All countries in South East Asia should be "easy" to the Gilas no matter how improved those. I used the word "easy" because it's a fact and for all the countries in the South East, we are the most basketball enthusiast.

If a team like Indonesia was able to beat them, Gilas should hope for fuck*ng changes in the squad as no way it can complete closely in the ASIAN games.

I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.
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May 22, 2022, 06:26:55 PM

WTF Gilas. Even SMC teams in the PBA can beat team Indonesia. Coach Chot was too comfortable. I previously posted here my concern that Gilas struggles in Thailand during their first match in SEA Games which shows already what's the problem. Damn Chot, sitting out LeBron Lopez for most of the time where he's one of the good assets there to bring the ball down. The Ravena brothers seem tired already and Chot may be like these guys for real (don't take it seriously). All countries in South East Asia should be "easy" to the Gilas no matter how improved those. I used the word "easy" because it's a fact and for all the countries in the South East, we are the most basketball enthusiast.

If a team like Indonesia was able to beat them, Gilas should hope for fuck*ng changes in the squad as no way it can complete closely in the ASIAN games.
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May 22, 2022, 11:27:03 AM
let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA  Grin. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

In terms of urgency I go with you, TerraFirma needs help from available players who can bring them the reinforcement that they

need. Unlike Ginebra, they are still fully equipped and still very capable of winning another title. We don't need to worry much about any trades

that will soon to happen to this league, it's monopolized even it's hardly being denied but we see the things from how the management

continue to favor both Cojuangco and Pangilinan each time they demand for any trades.
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May 22, 2022, 09:46:49 AM
let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA  Grin. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

We will eventually find it out who wins the trade once the season starts. It will start next month, so we better prepared our bet for that as for sure everyone will be putting their bets again. It's a long break, but the good thing is that everything is back to normal already.

Hopefully everything will again be smooth and we won't suffer on any breakout, better to wait for how those players will play this upcoming new season we will see how those trades will benefit both side, whoever wins the trade will reflect from how the players will deliver letting their presence be felt by the team who bring them and sign them for their assignments.
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