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July 01, 2022, 05:51:11 AM
We are now in the 2nd game of the night, it's Ginebra vs Converge, and the game very close.

Half time score is 50-45, Ginebra with 5 points lead.
2nd half is going to be Ginebra for sure, maybe we will again see the same scenario like what TNT did in the first game.

Ginebra was only -5.5 or -6.5 in this game IIRC, so that bet has now a good chance to win.
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July 01, 2022, 04:29:21 AM
The 2nd game is getting entertaining to watch, I though that this game would be boring because Phoenix struggle big time to score in the 1st quarter, but now we are already in the 3rd quarter and the game is very close already, in fact, I think Phoenix has a good chance of winning the game because they have the momentum here.
That game was very unpredictable, Phoenix supposes to win the game but they allow the NLEX to come back and bring the game into OT. Too bad for the Phoenix because they are already short-handed but they also got Wright and Anthony fouled out in the game, so these two were not available in the extra regulation.
Yeah, I saw that game, that was a classic game, it's the PBA game that I like to see, a close game and a game that went to OT, it's very entertaining in short.



Meanwhile, the first game today was also entertaining, TNT beat the DYIP with their big run in the 2nd half alone, this team is scary.

35-19, 30-19, that's for the 2nd half alone.

And we have Williams who produced 31 points, the best player.
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July 01, 2022, 03:28:13 AM
The 2nd game is getting entertaining to watch, I though that this game would be boring because Phoenix struggle big time to score in the 1st quarter, but now we are already in the 3rd quarter and the game is very close already, in fact, I think Phoenix has a good chance of winning the game because they have the momentum here.
That game was very unpredictable, Phoenix supposes to win the game but they allow the NLEX to come back and bring the game into OT. Too bad for the Phoenix because they are already short-handed but they also got Wright and Anthony fouled out in the game, so these two were not available in the extra regulation.
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June 30, 2022, 05:45:08 PM
It's actually career and business and that's why who offers the best, that's where the best players will go. While the other teams, become farm teams.
I think there should be a revamp on the way on how they balance the teams and it should be the commissioners should step on it and make a way to also help those weak teams.
Players always dream to play with a decent team at first they will agree to play to any team inside the league but once opportunity comes and big franchise offers them a contract, they will not hesitate to take it and change their uniforms, it's more on the money side and if the league continue to play this way, there's nothing change to expect but to continue to see the dominance of these two big team owners,.

Remember, Shell, Sta.Lucia,Tanduay, Air21, Powerade and lately Alaska all are good and competitive teams before

but they choose to leave the league for whatever reason they may have but those are the days.. Roll Eyes Cool
It's because they see the politics and there's no balance anymore. The problem is with the commissioners that still believe that they're on the right path in doing things and business. The good thing here is that PBA is already established but once another league emerges and most fans are already there and players transferring there, they know that it's like a sinking boat already.

Like what kind of revamp? Top teams like SMC and MVP are complying with the trade rules.

The Commissioner has the right to approve a trade but if the negotiation between teams and players both agreed, they can't just void the trade since what if the player really likes to accept the offer. Maybe the revamp should be to make everything balanced, involve a trade between players that really makes sense to trade, and not they will say it's fair.

For example, the time SMB got CJ Perez. I think at that time, SMB traded away some of their players that were not even used much and the PBA still called it a fair trade. That's where the influence of these top teams happened.
Yes, the revamp to balance each team. But the problem is all about the money that sometimes dominant teams have while the weak teams aren't willing to invest more for their better rosters.
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June 30, 2022, 05:44:42 PM

Talking about the balance in the league, it might not happen now and we won't be able to see the glory days when almost all teams are competitive. I know teams on the bottom tier can also give a good contract but what's the sense of spending too much on their teams if only a few good talents are available.

It's not about teams who have the ability to give contracts but how many players in the league are doing competitive performance currently? That's the reason why most of these players are in top companies. If only there are lots of rising stars in the league, more talents will be spread out like the classic days when even top teams can't just sign good players as there are lots of talents around.

The only time we can see these mid to low-tier teams competing in the Semis or Finals is during Governors Cup and Commissioners Cup. I hope some mid-tier teams can sign an import with the likes of KJ McDaniels who was able to lift a mid-term team last conference. Unfortunately, personal problems occur and we never see his team where would they supposed to end up at the last conference.
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June 30, 2022, 04:59:50 PM
It's actually career and business and that's why who offers the best, that's where the best players will go. While the other teams, become farm teams.
I think there should be a revamp on the way on how they balance the teams and it should be the commissioners should step on it and make a way to also help those weak teams.

Like what kind of revamp? Top teams like SMC and MVP are complying with the trade rules.

The Commissioner has the right to approve a trade but if the negotiation between teams and players both agreed, they can't just void the trade since what if the player really likes to accept the offer. Maybe the revamp should be to make everything balanced, involve a trade between players that really makes sense to trade, and not they will say it's fair.

For example, the time SMB got CJ Perez. I think at that time, SMB traded away some of their players that were not even used much and the PBA still called it a fair trade. That's where the influence of these top teams happened.
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June 30, 2022, 11:39:10 AM
Who's to blame that PBA is not balanced? Is it because of the dominance of SMC teams? MVP teams? I do not agree with that.

The problem is, that other teams are not even doing their best to become better teams. It's because of the inability to provide competitive salaries. CJ Perez, Terence Romeo, Matt-Ganuellas Rosser, Christian Standhardinger any other players that come from the bottom team, find good salaries at SMC or MVP teams. We can't blame these companies if they afford to offer a good contract to these players.

Players are for career enhancement. "PUSO" and loyalty are not applicable to most players as the goal is to make money out of their profession as that also serves as their source of income. Not all the time they can play basketball so as much as possible if there's an offer coming from big companies, they will consider accepting it right away.
It's actually career and business and that's why who offers the best, that's where the best players will go. While the other teams, become farm teams.
I think there should be a revamp on the way on how they balance the teams and it should be the commissioners should step on it and make a way to also help those weak teams.
Players always dream to play with a decent team at first they will agree to play to any team inside the league but once opportunity comes and big franchise offers them a contract, they will not hesitate to take it and change their uniforms, it's more on the money side and if the league continue to play this way, there's nothing change to expect but to continue to see the dominance of these two big team owners,.

Remember, Shell, Sta.Lucia, Tanduay, Air21, Powerade, and lately Alaska all are good and competitive teams before

but they choose to leave the league for whatever reason they may have but those are the days. Roll Eyes Cool
Other players, they based on the practical life and this is what happens for example if a good player drafted in pba there's no choice at but to play in what team they draft but if some or other team saw a potential of that specific player for sure they want to convince that player to play with them so they offer a good amount of money, then that player has a practical thinking for sure they are willing to play with the new team who offer him a big amount rather than his old team offer a small one. And that's what life goes on.
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June 30, 2022, 11:15:09 AM
Who's to blame that PBA is not balanced? Is it because of the dominance of SMC teams? MVP teams? I do not agree with that.

The problem is, that other teams are not even doing their best to become better teams. It's because of the inability to provide competitive salaries. CJ Perez, Terence Romeo, Matt-Ganuellas Rosser, Christian Standhardinger any other players that come from the bottom team, find good salaries at SMC or MVP teams. We can't blame these companies if they afford to offer a good contract to these players.

Players are for career enhancement. "PUSO" and loyalty are not applicable to most players as the goal is to make money out of their profession as that also serves as their source of income. Not all the time they can play basketball so as much as possible if there's an offer coming from big companies, they will consider accepting it right away.
It's actually career and business and that's why who offers the best, that's where the best players will go. While the other teams, become farm teams.
I think there should be a revamp on the way on how they balance the teams and it should be the commissioners should step on it and make a way to also help those weak teams.
Players always dream to play with a decent team at first they will agree to play to any team inside the league but once opportunity comes and big franchise offers them a contract, they will not hesitate to take it and change their uniforms, it's more on the money side and if the league continue to play this way, there's nothing change to expect but to continue to see the dominance of these two big team owners,.

Remember, Shell, Sta.Lucia,Tanduay, Air21, Powerade and lately Alaska all are good and competitive teams before

but they choose to leave the league for whatever reason they may have but those are the days.. Roll Eyes Cool
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June 30, 2022, 10:35:19 AM
Who's to blame that PBA is not balanced? Is it because of the dominance of SMC teams? MVP teams? I do not agree with that.

The problem is, that other teams are not even doing their best to become better teams. It's because of the inability to provide competitive salaries. CJ Perez, Terence Romeo, Matt-Ganuellas Rosser, Christian Standhardinger any other players that come from the bottom team, find good salaries at SMC or MVP teams. We can't blame these companies if they afford to offer a good contract to these players.

Players are for career enhancement. "PUSO" and loyalty are not applicable to most players as the goal is to make money out of their profession as that also serves as their source of income. Not all the time they can play basketball so as much as possible if there's an offer coming from big companies, they will consider accepting it right away.
It's actually career and business and that's why who offers the best, that's where the best players will go. While the other teams, become farm teams.
I think there should be a revamp on the way on how they balance the teams and it should be the commissioners should step on it and make a way to also help those weak teams.
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June 30, 2022, 08:03:04 AM
The 2nd game is getting entertaining to watch, I though that this game would be boring because Phoenix struggle big time to score in the 1st quarter, but now we are already in the 3rd quarter and the game is very close already, in fact, I think Phoenix has a good chance of winning the game because they have the momentum here.
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Winding down.
June 30, 2022, 07:15:55 AM
What a thrilling game we witnessed in the first game.

Again, Blackwater had a good game and they were able to beat the Meralco by 1 point only.
They always choke but good thing they still manage to win the game.

Congrats blackwater, 89-90 was the final score.

They are a legit team this season, beating the Merlco Bolts is not easy but they were able to do it. Their ranking is good now, maybe they will get the twice to beat advantage once the elimination will start, and I'm sure right now the organization are already happy with what Blackwater has already achieve.
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June 30, 2022, 06:37:03 AM
What a thrilling game we witnessed in the first game.

Again, Blackwater had a good game and they were able to beat the Meralco by 1 point only.
They always choke but good thing they still manage to win the game.

Congrats blackwater, 89-90 was the final score.
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June 30, 2022, 02:26:37 AM
Who's to blame that PBA is not balanced? Is it because of the dominance of SMC teams? MVP teams? I do not agree with that.

The problem is, that other teams are not even doing their best to become better teams. It's because of the inability to provide competitive salaries. CJ Perez, Terence Romeo, Matt-Ganuellas Rosser, Christian Standhardinger any other players that come from the bottom team, find good salaries at SMC or MVP teams. We can't blame these companies if they afford to offer a good contract to these players.

Players are for career enhancement. "PUSO" and loyalty are not applicable to most players as the goal is to make money out of their profession as that also serves as their source of income. Not all the time they can play basketball so as much as possible if there's an offer coming from big companies, they will consider accepting it right away.

I think even in NBA, teams that do not offer competitive salaries might not even land in a good position. And it just so happen that SMB is dominating because they pay good salary. I think for it to be competitive, other teams should spend a good amount and then have a good coaching staff, in short it should be a holistic approach in the game. And this what separates great teams from others.
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June 29, 2022, 11:02:33 PM
Who's to blame that PBA is not balanced? Is it because of the dominance of SMC teams? MVP teams? I do not agree with that.

The problem is, that other teams are not even doing their best to become better teams. It's because of the inability to provide competitive salaries. CJ Perez, Terence Romeo, Matt-Ganuellas Rosser, Christian Standhardinger any other players that come from the bottom team, find good salaries at SMC or MVP teams. We can't blame these companies if they afford to offer a good contract to these players.

Players are for career enhancement. "PUSO" and loyalty are not applicable to most players as the goal is to make money out of their profession as that also serves as their source of income. Not all the time they can play basketball so as much as possible if there's an offer coming from big companies, they will consider accepting it right away.
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June 29, 2022, 05:04:49 PM
Thanks @blockman for sharing, that seemed to be exciting to watch.

May I know when that league will start? Since the NBA season is still on going, so we cannot expect that anytime soon, that's why I like to know the scheduel of that game, and one most important thing, can we watch it through online streaming?
You're welcome.
Our very own PBA will have to show them sometime that we're still the great league in the ASIA. Also, another thing that I've just known is that it is Ron Artest who's the EASL ambassador. He has also said that his son has a Filipino blood and would hopefully play for the Philippines if time allows it.
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June 29, 2022, 08:55:47 AM

They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.

Sadly to say that it still running around the league both Cojuangco and Pangilinan corp are the dominating teams inside the league and your observation is mostly the same with other people who are still watching and supporting this league, PBA is more for these two giants they've always have the privileges and continue to enjoy that kind of treatment.

Other teams are inside to stay for advertisement, but in terms of winning the title, they are far away from winning a crown.
Yeah, seemed like we already know the possible winners in the PBA, but what is posted by blockman is good, that EASL league might be better than the PBA and we will see if the champion and runner in the PBA are really worthy to face other countries leagues. As to PBA, it's very sad that we cannot change what has been practice in centuries already.

I agree with that, another option and if bookies will add that options, there are many pinoy bettors that will add that league
to their betting options, I see opportunities for us who love using this venue for our gambling. There are possible people
now who will look for advantages while watching and betting from this additional league the PBA will be offering.
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June 29, 2022, 06:15:33 AM

They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.

Sadly to say that it still running around the league both Cojuangco and Pangilinan corp are the dominating teams inside the league and your observation is mostly the same with other people who are still watching and supporting this league, PBA is more for these two giants they've always have the privileges and continue to enjoy that kind of treatment.

Other teams are inside to stay for advertisement, but in terms of winning the title, they are far away from winning a crown.
Yeah, seemed like we already know the possible winners in the PBA, but what is posted by blockman is good, that EASL league might be better than the PBA and we will see if the champion and runner in the PBA are really worthy to face other countries leagues. As to PBA, it's very sad that we cannot change what has been practice in centuries already.
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June 29, 2022, 06:11:09 AM

They have been doing that for many years, so I think that would not change, only the Cojuangco and Pangilinan teams will be in the finals most of the time, and the other teams are just farm teams, though it's not confirm but I strongly believe it's happening.

Sadly to say that it still running around the league both Cojuangco and Pangilinan corp are the dominating teams inside the league and your observation is mostly the same with other people who are still watching and supporting this league, PBA is more for these two giants they've always have the privileges and continue to enjoy that kind of treatment.

Other teams are inside to stay for advertisement, but in terms of winning the title, they are far away from winning a crown.
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Winding down.
June 29, 2022, 05:47:14 AM
Thanks @blockman for sharing, that seemed to be exciting to watch.

May I know when that league will start? Since the NBA season is still on going, so we cannot expect that anytime soon, that's why I like to know the scheduel of that game, and one most important thing, can we watch it through online streaming?
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June 28, 2022, 06:04:09 PM
Guys, have you seen the bracketing on EASL? I think this is still on the topic since two teams will be from PBA, PBA-Phil Cup champ and PBA-Phil cup runner up. This is the bracketing.

Group A

PBA-Phil Cup champ
Anyang KGC
Ryukyu Golden Kings
Taipei Fubon Braves



Group B

PBA-Phil cup runner up
Seoul SK Knights
Utsunomiya Brex
Bay Area Dragons

A new exciting league to watch for.
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