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Quote from: agustina2 on June 11, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

What happens in some games recently? I'm talking about teams that will have a big lead but in the end, they will blow that lead and loss. That's what happened to some games recently and the fresh one is on Converge vs Magnolia where the former was behind 20 point lead but came back and win that game.

Here in Phoenix vs Meralco, Phoenix was up as much as 16 points but Meralco comes back and sealed a win.

With this situation recently, it's tempting to bet on a live bet on a team that is behind a big lead. What do you think?

Come from behind wins often happens in the PBA and also in the NBA but betting for the team who's behind in the score is very risky personally, i don't do that especially if the that was behind is the underdog team but when I do live betting I usually take the option/market with the handicap.

Sample scenario, the score in the third quarter was Phoenix 59 - Meralco 43, you can see an offer in the bookies (Phoenix -10.5 @1.96 Meralco +10.5 @1.85), that I usually take and not the ML and I have a high win rate doing that hehe but not always a win, only high win rate.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 11, 2022, 04:04:26 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 11, 2022, 03:17:32 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on June 11, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Here in Phoenix vs Meralco, Phoenix was up as much as 16 points but Meralco comes back and sealed a win.

With this situation recently, it's tempting to bet on a live bet on a team that is behind a big lead. What do you think?

You can always find an opportunity to do live bet, PBA is more predictable compared to the NBA so that gives us a great opportunity when a team is down as the odds are very high. just imagine the odds of Meralco to win by 11+ when they are down a double digit, for sure that is more than 10.00x.

But that does not guarantee a win though, it's still up to you if you will take the risk. Some teams could really come back especially if they are a good team, in the case of Meralco, they are a championship team so they know how to bounce back, some with the SMB and Ginebra.

This could be a lucky break for Meralco, imagine that come back and yes there’s no guarantee with this since both team wants to win and if you do live bet, things might still change. I still prefer to bet before the game started, this is more exciting and less stressful since in live betting, you are trying to chase which team will win and that can be more frustrating if you lose on that bet. Maybe this will always depend on the preference of the bettor, if you are comfortable with the live betting, then try it without any expectation at all since there’s no guarantee for this.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 11, 2022, 03:17:32 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on June 11, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Here in Phoenix vs Meralco, Phoenix was up as much as 16 points but Meralco comes back and sealed a win.

With this situation recently, it's tempting to bet on a live bet on a team that is behind a big lead. What do you think?

You can always find an opportunity to do live bet, PBA is more predictable compared to the NBA so that gives us a great opportunity when a team is down as the odds are very high. just imagine the odds of Meralco to win by 11+ when they are down a double digit, for sure that is more than 10.00x.

But that does not guarantee a win though, it's still up to you if you will take the risk. Some teams could really come back especially if they are a good team, in the case of Meralco, they are a championship team so they know how to bounce back, some with the SMB and Ginebra.

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Quote from: agustina2 on June 11, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Here in Phoenix vs Meralco, Phoenix was up as much as 16 points but Meralco comes back and sealed a win.

With this situation recently, it's tempting to bet on a live bet on a team that is behind a big lead. What do you think?

You can always find an opportunity to do live bet, PBA is more predictable compared to the NBA so that gives us a great opportunity when a team is down as the odds are very high. just imagine the odds of Meralco to win by 11+ when they are down a double digit, for sure that is more than 10.00x.

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Quote from: agustina2 on June 11, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

What happens in some games recently? I'm talking about teams that will have a big lead but in the end, they will blow that lead and loss. That's what happened to some games recently and the fresh one is on Converge vs Magnolia where the former was behind 20 point lead but came back and win that game.

Here in Phoenix vs Meralco, Phoenix was up as much as 16 points but Meralco comes back and sealed a win.

With this situation recently, it's tempting to bet on a live bet on a team that is behind a big lead. What do you think?

Depends on how you can take the risk. Most of the time, live betting is really scary when the team has that kind of big lead. Taking chances, though, can bring you more decent profits, if happened that you managed to bet with a huge ML, for sure during that live event, the underdog has huge odd.

If you can handle that kind of risk and you can let go of the amount you'll going to bet, then why not?

Might luck permit you to place your money at the right time? It's still gambling and shit can happen, right?

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 11, 2022, 08:49:50 AM

Quote from: Shamm on June 10, 2022, 11:58:34 PM

If mikey willams want a price increase then for me it's okay because as we saw his performance last season he is very dominant in terms of playing good teammates and very strong player.

Actually, Mikey Williams isn't satisfied with the rookie salary when he was first drafted. He is asking for more because he is confident that he's a beast.

The TNT didn't grant his request and follow the max salary for a rookie as it's like Williams should prove first that he is eligible on a much higher contract.

PBA champion (2021 Philippine)
PBA Finals MVP (2021 Philippine)
PBA Rookie of the Year (2021)
PBA First Mythical Team (2021)

He really deserves a much higher contract.

So much achievement within one year and one conference increasing his salary is deserves what he have right now. That kind of achievement is hard to reach cause if one player is drafted to PBA it's very difficult to be finals MVP and rookie of the year cause if a player gets drafted the adjustment of their new teammate and a pressure of the crowd cause PBA is one of the biggest basketball league here in country.

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What happens in some games recently? I'm talking about teams that will have a big lead but in the end, they will blow that lead and loss. That's what happened to some games recently and the fresh one is on Converge vs Magnolia where the former was behind 20 point lead but came back and win that game.

Here in Phoenix vs Meralco, Phoenix was up as much as 16 points but Meralco comes back and sealed a win.

With this situation recently, it's tempting to bet on a live bet on a team that is behind a big lead. What do you think?

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What a win by the Meralco Bolts, they dominated the 4th quarter to beat the Phoenix Super LPG. However, what made me smile in that game is Reynel Hugnatan who won the Best Player of the game. Oh my, he is already 43 years old and still contributing big time to the team, there's a big reason why Meralco still keeps him, congratulations for the big win.

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Quote from: Shamm on June 10, 2022, 11:58:34 PM

If mikey willams want a price increase then for me it's okay because as we saw his performance last season he is very dominant in terms of playing good teammates and very strong player.

Actually, Mikey Williams isn't satisfied with the rookie salary when he was first drafted. He is asking for more because he is confident that he's a beast.

The TNT didn't grant his request and follow the max salary for a rookie as it's like Williams should prove first that he is eligible on a much higher contract.

PBA champion (2021 Philippine)
PBA Finals MVP (2021 Philippine)
PBA Rookie of the Year (2021)
PBA First Mythical Team (2021)

He really deserves a much higher contract.

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Anyone here betting on the 2nd game?

It's Meralco vs Phoenix, I bet after the 1st half and my bet is for the Phoenix to win.
I'm not watching this game now, I am just betting for fun, if my bet is lucky then I will win a decent amount.

I'm gonna use this winning for the Warriors to win in game 5.

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Oops. SMB manage to beat again NLEX on there yesterday match. I thought SMB already lose that match since NLEX manage to pin down JMF in the first half of there match while they have a good start by having a good 3pts accuracy. I'm surprised JMF manage to become useful by providing 14 rebounds on this game.

I just see my winnings today that's why I notice they actually won. Grin

Congrats, you gave up early I think, you know SMB are really good, even if NLEX were on the lead but they were able to come back and beat the NLEX. If JMF could not provide points for the team, he can still contribute to his biggest strength which is the rebounding.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 10, 2022, 06:49:32 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 06, 2022, 01:23:39 AM

Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase

. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

According to the report, Mikey Williams is now headed back to the country after a good negotiation with the TNT.

He just needs to sign it to make things official. The contract amount is not disclosed to the public, but maybe we can get a glimpse of it once everything is official.

Before, the issue was Williams wanted a salary of around Php 1,000,000 per month. It wasn't granted but let's wait for the official update from the team.

If mikey willams want a price increase then for me it's okay because as we saw his performance last season he is very dominant in terms of playing good teammates and very strong player. Maybe this season will be the best season for him because we all know that willams is a better player with his the help of his teammates they can win and carry their team to the finals.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 09, 2022, 06:06:44 AM

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Does anyone that feels bad for the young Paras? First time to enter PBA with a team that's on a losing streak and then the losing streak continues. And just announced his retirement on PBA. Too early to be gone and I thought that he'll pursue his basketball career. Going back to the acting career which has a better treatment and more coming in for him.

Well, we all knew that his stint in the PBA is not good as he is not getting a lot of playing time but this is due to the fact that his talent level is far below his other teammates, I mean if only he is not a Paras, he could not enter in the PBA. Also, he is not a guy who is not financially well-off i think so working so hard in the court is not worth it for him so better be in showbiz rather than in the court hehe.

Meanwhile, his former team is ahead against TNT in the fourth quarter now, we may see an upset here.

Edit:

Big upset as Blackwater won its first game this conference against the squad of disgruntled coach Chot Reyes.

That's good for the team, a way to start this conference.
I agree that he's better in showbiz if that seems to be his passion and he's getting nowhere. But if he wants to stay, no one can remove him as he's likely to improve and get in his prime.
Too early to get out but that's it and it's good to have another slot for one aspiring player to replace him.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 06, 2022, 01:23:39 AM

Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase

. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

According to the report, Mikey Williams is now headed back to the country after a good negotiation with the TNT.

He just needs to sign it to make things official. The contract amount is not disclosed to the public, but maybe we can get a glimpse of it once everything is official.

Before, the issue was Williams wanted a salary of around Php 1,000,000 per month. It wasn't granted but let's wait for the official update from the team.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 10, 2022, 05:48:53 PM

Wow, congrats if you are betting for Converge. There was a moment that the odds is 8.xx for Converge to win in the fourth quarter but the Hotshots were up by 8 points but I'm very hesitant to pull the trigger because you know Magnolia is not an ordinary team hehe but when i go back and checked the game, it is already on overtime and ultimately Converge won the game.

That was surprising. Downed by 20 points, who will think that Converge will still be able to pull a win. Even I won't bet on live betting.

Now that it happened, we now have a good basis for our future bets that even against a heavy favorite, it's possible for Converge to make the rally. I hope their rising stars won't be targeted by SMC or MVP teams.

Converge needs to stand strong and don't allow for their young good players to just be traded with these giant teams in the PBA.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 09, 2022, 11:14:42 AM

Game will resume tomorrow.

1st game - SMB vs NLEX
2nd game - Converge vs Magnolia.

For a new team like Converge, I think players will get a bonus for their first win, so I think Converge is the pick here.

Wow, congrats if you are betting for Converge. There was a moment that the odds is 8.xx for Converge to win in the fourth quarter but the Hotshots were up by 8 points but I'm very hesitant to pull the trigger because you know Magnolia is not an ordinary team hehe but when i go back and checked the game, it is already on overtime and ultimately Converge won the game.

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Quote from: Shamm on June 08, 2022, 06:37:06 PM

For me, That's a bad idea why he should quit PBA? Because of a losing streak? No that's a part of the game maybe last season they failed but this season there has a chance and we all know that young paras is very useful in terms of defense he is good at that role. But if he's decision is going to quit then go for actor then it's good for him because all the decision is in him. All I can say for young paras in his career is that (IT'S TO EARLY TO RETIRE.)

You have to remember that basketball is not really become a "career" for Andre Paras. He was exposed to showbiz and entertainment for many years making basketball become just a hobby for him or not totally played for long because of his hectic schedule. It's difficult to get back in shape even though he is still young if he's not used already to doing it. PBA is not a joke and can't be compared to the usual local leagues. Players here should always be versatile and agile to keep up with the competition.

And salary-wise, he is getting more "money" from his continuous showbiz projects overall than what he is getting as a player. That's a fact.

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Does anyone that feels bad for the young Paras? First time to enter PBA with a team that's on a losing streak and then the losing streak continues. And just announced his retirement on PBA. Too early to be gone and I thought that he'll pursue his basketball career. Going back to the acting career he has a better treatment and more coming in for him.

For me, That's a bad idea why he should quit PBA? Because of a losing streak? No that's a part of the game maybe last season they failed but this season there has a chance and we all know that young paras is very useful in terms of defense he is good at that role. But if he's decision is going to quit then go for actor then it's good for him because all the decision is in him. All I can say for young paras in his career is that (IT'S TO EARLY TO RETIRE.)

If the passion of playing is no longer there for him, it's best to switch career than forcing yourself to do something that you

are no longer happy. Your dedication to the game is something that is important. Once the passion is gone, your dedication will be

gone as well. If he chooses to retire as early as now, it's his decision. I'm sure the influence of his dad still impacting him, and

just to add some thoughts, the Paras family is already a billionaire, they can do whatever they desire.. Wink

Yes, you are right mate maybe there's a heavy reason why young paras leave in one of the biggest basketball leagues in the Philippines and many players want to enter this league. If what is the main reason why he leaves then let's support him because every single human being has a individual decision. But it's wasteful because his career in PBA has just begun many achievements waiting for him in the future but sad to say he will leave

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 09, 2022, 10:08:20 AM

moving back, congrats to Terrafima for beating the star-studded TNT.

Nope, it's not terraferma, it's Blackwater who beats TNT, and their losing streak is finally over.
here's the scorebox (https://pba.ph/recap?match=2098600)

Game will resume tomorrow.

1st game - SMB vs NLEX
2nd game - Converge vs Magnolia.

For a new team like Converge, I think players will get a bonus for their first win, so I think Converge is the pick here.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 09, 2022, 10:53:58 AM

Quote from: Shamm on June 08, 2022, 06:37:06 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 08, 2022, 10:27:12 AM

Does anyone that feels bad for the young Paras? First time to enter PBA with a team that's on a losing streak and then the losing streak continues. And just announced his retirement on PBA. Too early to be gone and I thought that he'll pursue his basketball career. Going back to the acting career he has a better treatment and more coming in for him.

For me, That's a bad idea why he should quit PBA? Because of a losing streak? No that's a part of the game maybe last season they failed but this season there has a chance and we all know that young paras is very useful in terms of defense he is good at that role. But if he's decision is going to quit then go for actor then it's good for him because all the decision is in him. All I can say for young paras in his career is that (IT'S TO EARLY TO RETIRE.)

If the passion of playing is no longer there for him, it's best to switch career than forcing yourself to do something that you

are no longer happy. Your dedication to the game is something that is important. Once the passion is gone, your dedication will be

gone as well. If he chooses to retire as early as now, it's his decision. I'm sure the influence of his dad still impacting to him, and

just to add some thoughts, Paras family is already a billionaire, they can do whatever they desire.. Wink

I'm surprised that I know about the retirement thing, I mean, he is very new in the PBA and yet he is already talking about retirement. He does not belong to a good team like the Ginebra because he easily quit, but whatever his decision, it's his own life so we have to respect that.

He will focus on his acting career, I think he knows where he really is good at.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/andre-paras-retires-focus-acting-career/

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