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Quote from: harizen on May 16, 2022, 06:25:39 PM

Seems JuneMar Fajardo is now finally back on track as he unleashed again his "Kraken Mode" on PH's recent win against Thailand in the ongoing Southeast Asian Games. That's so far the best performance of the SMB Bigman after his long recovery from the injury that sits him for almost 2 years.

Even the PH won, I have a big concern here. PH is the most dominant country in basketball in Southeast Asia for years and they almost beat their opponents in a large lead regardless of who's on our roster pool. Here in their recent win against Thailand, PH was doing a rally all throughout the game as they are always behind.

I know the win is a win but this just shows that the team has a bit of a problem. Honestly, we shouldn't have a problem competing against SEA countries in basketball but they struggle against Thailand. I see that the PH roster is good that's why I don't understand what happened in that game.

Maybe other SEA countries are now doing their best to improve their roster and defeating PH is something like a big recognition for them that's why they are pumped against PH.

Your last statement weight everything, the other countries learned from us and they are really trying to compete by sending great players, also to show that they develop their talents. Glad to see that even it's just a close gap PH manage to win by the help of JMF though we all witness that there are limited chemistries within the squad maybe because of some adjustments but it should be look by the coaching staffs and do some adjustments.. Good luck Team PH Laban lang!

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Quote from: Fredomago on May 15, 2022, 08:54:32 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

Another top pick going to an independent team. For sure MVP and SMC will observe how he will be playing and will get him again in the following season.

Anyway, a good pick for the Blackwater as he is very dominant inside and I've seen some of his highlights in 3x3 and he is an athletic big guy so that's a big help to the Blackwater. Now with regards to their losing streak, I think it will happen again but I'm just hoping that it will not be the same as their past losing streak. Their win against Magnolia last season is just because of a costly turnover of Barroca. Another one is there isn't that much changes in their roster aside from the addition of Rosser who we don't know if how he will be playing in the upcoming season. Overall, I will not expect too much from Blackwater.

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Seems JuneMar Fajardo is now finally back on track as he unleashed again his "Kraken Mode" on PH's recent win against Thailand in the ongoing Southeast Asian Games. That's so far the best performance of the SMB Bigman after his long recovery from the injury that sits him for almost 2 years.

Even the PH won, I have a big concern here. PH is the most dominant country in basketball in Southeast Asia for years and they almost beat their opponents in a large lead regardless of who's on our roster pool. Here in their recent win against Thailand, PH was doing a rally all throughout the game as they are always behind.

I know the win is a win but this just shows that the team has a bit of a problem. Honestly, we shouldn't have a problem competing against SEA countries in basketball but they struggle against Thailand. I see that the PH roster is good that's why I don't understand what happened in that game.

Maybe other SEA countries are now doing their best to improve their roster and defeating PH is something like a big recognition for them that's why they are pumped against PH.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

If Blackwater is really a farm team, then we shouldn't be surprised if he will get traded after seasons of playing with the team. Look, Bobby Ray Parks Jr. made Blackwater a good team before, but look what happened, he was traded to TNT but only played one season because he choose to play in B-League where he would get bigger contract.

Of course, no one can prove that, but it has been the rumor years ago and what is happening to this team could clearly tell that it's only a training ground for the future star in the PBA. Though they got the best rookie, I still think they'll struggle to be in the playoffs when the season starts.

No one indeed, but we all see how the team manage their players and how the trades has been done previously.

Guess the team don't have any option knowing how both the Pangilinan and Cojuangco influences the trade once they wanted someone

to acquire, maybe it will going to depend on how this top rookie will comes up and show his skills, if there's an interesting offer to come

once he start playing inside the PBA.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 16, 2022, 07:49:23 AM

He(Ray Parks Jr.) is already playing in B-League.. Wait, are you talking of Slaughter here going to B-League already?
If Northport will not give him the amount of salary he demanded, then most probably we will see that scenario as I'm pretty sure there are teams in Bleague that will acquire Slaughter.

Yes, I know, Ray Park already in the B-League and what I'm pointing is the amount that he's earning right now value the skills that he is providing for his current team inside the league, they are now in the Semis if I'm not mistaken, so if he continue helping his team the management may give him another good contract.

Regarding to Slaughter, I just sited post from Parks tweet about the case. I'm not sure if Gregg already receives any invitation or any
offer from B-league.

But who knows, maybe he may get one and try to work on it if there's no team from the PBA who will give him the offer that he's expecting.

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Quote from: Fredomago on May 16, 2022, 05:46:48 AM

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

If Blackwater is really a farm team, then we shouldn't be surprised if he will get traded after seasons of playing with the team. Look, Bobby Ray Parks Jr. made Blackwater a good team before, but look what happened, he was traded to TNT but only played one season because he choose to play in B-League where he would get bigger contract.

Even there's no proof that this team is only a training ground, it's just a self-explained case and nothing to argue. Maybe they will try now to work after winning or they will continue to be in that same level, always on the lowest win and keep being eliminated in the early stage of the league.

Speaking of Parks Jr., He did try to give some sentiment about Slaughter's case but I guess there are fans who turned against him and provided negative opinions about him.

Good to see that he's doing good in B-league with the amount of T.F. It's value the game that he provides.
A big chance that he will have another good contract after this B-League season.

He(Ray Parks Jr.) is already playing in B-League.. Wait, are you talking of Slaughter here going to B-League already?
If Northport will not give him the amount of salary he demanded, then most probably we will see that scenario as I'm pretty sure there are teams in Bleague that will acquire Slaughter.

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Quote from: Fredomago on May 15, 2022, 08:54:32 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

If Blackwater is really a farm team, then we shouldn't be surprised if he will get traded after seasons of playing with the team. Look, Bobby Ray Parks Jr. made Blackwater a good team before, but look what happened, he was traded to TNT but only played one season because he choose to play in B-League where he would get bigger contract.

Even there's no proof that this team is only a training ground, it's just a self-explained case and nothing to argue. Maybe they will try now to work after winning or they will continue to be in that same level, always on the lowest win and keep being eliminated in the early stage of the league.

Speaking of Parks Jr., He did try to give some sentiment about Slaughter's case but I guess there are fans who turned against him and provided negative opinions about him.

Good to see that he's doing good in B-league with the amount of T.F. It's value the game that he provides.
A big chance that he will have another good contract after this B-League season.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 08:57:29 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on May 15, 2022, 08:54:32 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

If Blackwater is really a farm team, then we shouldn't be surprised if he will get traded after seasons of playing with the team. Look, Bobby Ray Parks Jr. made Blackwater a good team before, but look what happened, he was traded to TNT but only played one season because he choose to play in B-League where he would get bigger contract.

Of course, no one can prove that, but it has been the rumor years ago and what is happening to this team could clearly tell that it's only a training ground for the future star in the PBA. Though they got the best rookie, I still think they'll struggle to be in the playoffs when the season starts.

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Quote from: Fredomago on May 15, 2022, 08:54:32 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

If Blackwater is really a farm team, then we shouldn't be surprised if he will get traded after seasons of playing with the team. Look, Bobby Ray Parks Jr. made Blackwater a good team before, but look what happened, he was traded to TNT but only played one season because he choose to play in B-League where he would get bigger contract.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 15, 2022, 07:17:08 AM

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

I hope he won't show that much right away, so he won't be the next target of the trade. Just kidding! But being the top pick, fans will expect something out from him, let see if the losing streak of Blackwater was already been changed after that win from Magnolia, and having a new guy who will help them from both sides.

We will see more on him (Rosser) compared to the other drafted players. Blackwater needs more help, so expect more minutes for this number one pick..

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Well, we can expect that because PBA are looking for a good prospect, star players in the universities. A good example is Robert Bollick from UP, he has already become a star player in the PBA because he excel right away during his first season, so maybe we will see the same, and hopefully, they will be drafted in a weak teams to help them.

If I'm not wrong Robert Bolick is from San Beda of NCAA not from UP though i don't know where he go to school during his high school years.

Sorry, I'm wrong, I stand corrected, I thought he was from UP.
This video is the evidence, : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldYHqDpiAGA

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Speaking of PBA draft, looks like this year's drafting is one of the shallowest ever because many players opted out of the draft like Justine Baltazar who pulled out his draft application because he will be playing in the Japan B league. Justine Baltazar was one of those player whom Blackwater is eyeing to be their number 1 pick.

Blackwater pick the brother of Matt Ganuelas-Rosser, I don't know the guy but I hope he'll be able to help the weak Blackwater team.

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First Round:

1. Blackwater - Brandon Ganuelas-Rosser
2. Terrafirma - Jeremiah Gray
3. Converge - Jeo Ambohot
4. Converge - Justin Arana
5. Rain or Shine - Gian Mamuyac
6. NorthPort - JM Calma
7. NLEX - Tyrus Hill
8. Ginebra - Javi Gomez de Liano
9. Blackwater - Kurt Lojera
10. Rain or Shine - Shaun Ildefonso
11. Blackwater - Mark Dyke
12. Magnolia - Keith Zaldivar

Above is the list of draftees with the respective teams who drafted them.

Do you guys find anything that surprises you?

Personally, I like Converge to pick Javi Gomez de Liano because he has the experience already in the Japan B league which could be helpful on his stint in the PBA but maybe because the priority of Converge is to pick a big man which is why they have not picked him.

Another shocker for me is Shaun Ildefonso landing on the 10th pick by Rain Or Shine, he could have been picked by Converge as his father is one of the assistant coaches of the team hehe.

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Quote from: blockman on May 14, 2022, 05:14:30 PM

.. but anyway to see those rookie draft in PBA? I haven't seen any news yet about that.

It was released yesterday.

Refer here: Full list of eligible applicants for PBA Rookie Draft

Unfortunately, the expected top pick prospects Sedrick Barefield and Justin Baltazar are out making it more possible that Brandon Ganuelas-Rosser will be the top pick and BlackWater might pick him. I hope he will be a big contributor to the BlackWater team that only established a single win since their last win in the PBA Bubble 2020.

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This might not be related to PBA but it's still basketball in the country. UP became the champion on this recent UAAP season 84.
After 34 years, they've became a champion again. Are there people here who have been tuning in on this league as well? I've just seen it on my feed so I've thought of sharing it here since it's also a league and basketball.
(https://sports.inquirer.net/462075/up-dethrones-ateneo-clinches-uaap-basketball-crown)

I watched the few games and I can really say that UP made a difference this season, they are composed of good players and even the departure of some of their key players this season, I’m pretty sure they can defend this title.

Well, some UP players are already graduate and might join PBA as well sooner or later. Rivero is already graduate, I wonder if he’s included in the recent draft and join PBA right away.

Yeah, it's possible that Ricci will be going to PBA but anyway to see those rookie draft in PBA? I haven't seen any news yet about that.

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 14, 2022, 05:12:10 PM

Speaking of PBA draft, looks like this year's drafting is one of the shallowest ever because many players opted out of the draft like Justine Baltazar who pulled out his draft application because he will be playing in the Japan B league. Justine Baltazar was one of those player whom Blackwater is eyeing to be their number 1 pick.

There's more money in other leagues now. But there would still be those that would like to be drafted in PBA. Exactly those that don't get any offers to play in other leagues abroad. Where can we see the list of possible drafts?

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 14, 2022, 03:42:48 PM

Well, we can expect that because PBA are looking for a good prospect, star players in the universities. A good example is Robert Bollick from UP, he has already become a star player in the PBA because he excel right away during his first season, so maybe we will see the same, and hopefully, they will be drafted in a weak teams to help them.

If I'm not wrong Robert Bolick is from San Beda of NCAA not from UP though i don't know where he go to school during his high school years.

Speaking of PBA draft, looks like this year's drafting is one of the shallowest ever because many players opted out of the draft like Justine Baltazar who pulled out his draft application because he will be playing in the Japan B league. Justine Baltazar was one of those player whom Blackwater is eyeing to be their number 1 pick.

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Quote from: Johnyz on May 14, 2022, 03:47:52 PM

This might be a new ERA or Ateneo will bounce back next season? This is actually exciting since a lot of veterans already graduated for both school this year so technically, next season will be more different. I believe some players already able to have a good offer from PBA Teams and the draft today can be more exciting since players from UAAP and NCAA schools are also joining PBA for this year draft.

UAAP and NCAA are also joining? Like these are new thing? No mate. It's usual that most PBA draftees will come from UAAP and NCAA. It's the always case. No other sources where these rookies will came from unless being in a special draft or being scouted by PBA teams.

Ateneo will surely bounce back but it seems that statement is not applicable to them since they have known to dominate the UAAP for long. I'm even more interested that Ateneo will have the same losing rally next season for a change. Tongue

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 14, 2022, 03:42:48 PM

so maybe we will see the same, and hopefully, they will be drafted in a weak teams to help them.

It will. Terrafirma, Blackwater, and Converge's possible picks and choices are the best of the best.

However, as far as PBA politics are concerned, maybe these prospects might end up in SMC teams as always. Once the giant company in the PBA sees the potential of these top picks, always expect the unexpected.

Then we will see once again surprising news and PBA Chief will call it a fair trade if you know what I mean.

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Just still lingering in my ears, Cagulangan

for the win!! Grin

He really made the difference, his shot was cold blooded, and I like the UP in that game because they were so aggressive, they are getting the ball and they don't mind playing against a heavy favored Ateneo. And for the record, it's the first time that coach Tab was beaten by a Filipino coach in the Finals.

This might be a new ERA or Ateneo will bounce back next season? This is actually exciting since a lot of veterans already graduated for both school this year so technically, next season will be more different. I believe some players already able to have a good offer from PBA Teams and the draft today can be more exciting since players from UAAP and NCAA schools are also joining PBA for this year draft.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 14, 2022, 09:24:14 AM

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Quote from: goinmerry on May 13, 2022, 06:37:10 PM

Quote from: blockman on May 13, 2022, 04:33:22 PM

This might not be related to PBA but it's still basketball in the country. UP became the champion on this recent UAAP season 84.
After 34 years, they've became a champion again. Are there people here who have been tuning in on this league as well? I've just seen it on my feed so I've thought of sharing it here since it's also a league and basketball.
(https://sports.inquirer.net/462075/up-dethrones-ateneo-clinches-uaap-basketball-crown)

I'm watching it, mate. Not a fan of either UP or Ateneo but I really like the former to win the championship. Ateneo is full of good and spectacular players from their coaching staff to players that's why for a change, I really like UP to advance.

Actually, it's related to PBA since players from these universities are bound to end up signing as a PBA draftee.

But there are reports released recently that some expected prospects skip the PBA Draftee as those received offers from overseas to play.

Ateneo have everything in terms of what the team needs, though they are still the favorite to win this year's title but upset

take place almost identical when UP beats them from the regular season and breaks the winning streak of Ateneo. It's been 36 long years

before The Unibersidad ng Pilipinas win the title, perfect timing to bring the emotions high. Just still lingering in my ears, Cagulangan

for the win!! Grin

It's a big surprise for the crowd and the UP will claim the trophy and become a champion. And yes ateneo has the best line up when we talk about basketball they have many good players. But for now UP is the best they proved to us that they can best the top universities and strong team in terms of basketball and maybe this year UP stars player will have a chance to be drafted in PBA.

Well, we can expect that because PBA are looking for a good prospect, star players in the universities. A good example is Robert Bollick from UP, he has already become a star player in the PBA because he excel right away during his first season, so maybe we will see the same, and hopefully, they will be drafted in a weak teams to help them.

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Quote from: goinmerry on May 13, 2022, 06:37:10 PM

Quote from: blockman on May 13, 2022, 04:33:22 PM

This might not be related to PBA but it's still basketball in the country. UP became the champion on this recent UAAP season 84.
After 34 years, they've became a champion again. Are there people here who have been tuning in on this league as well? I've just seen it on my feed so I've thought of sharing it here since it's also a league and basketball.
(https://sports.inquirer.net/462075/up-dethrones-ateneo-clinches-uaap-basketball-crown)

I'm watching it, mate. Not a fan of either UP or Ateneo but I really like the former to win the championship. Ateneo is full of good and spectacular players from their coaching staff to players that's why for a change, I really like UP to advance.

Actually, it's related to PBA since players from these universities are bound to end up signing as a PBA draftee.

But there are reports released recently that some expected prospects skip the PBA Draftee as those received offers from overseas to play.

Ateneo have everything in terms of what the team needs, though they are still the favorite to win this year's title but upset

take place almost identical when UP beats them from the regular season and breaks the winning streak of Ateneo. It's been 36 long years

before The Unibersidad ng Pilipinas win the title, perfect timing to bring the emotions high. Just still lingering in my ears, Cagulangan

for the win!! Grin

It's a big surprise for the crowd and the UP will claim the trophy and become a champion. And yes ateneo has the best line up when we talk about basketball they have many good players. But for now UP is the best they proved to us that they can best the top universities and strong team in terms of basketball and maybe this year UP stars player will have a chance to be drafted in PBA.

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