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Quote from: Fredomago on June 06, 2022, 01:23:39 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on June 05, 2022, 08:10:52 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on June 05, 2022, 07:54:20 AM

The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.

Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase

. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

Watching the game right now and bet on the under 176.5 and it looks like i'm going to win this one because it is a very low scoring one.

Though it's true that he really performed well last conference and he almost beat Benjie Paras record but he sign the contract and if I'm not mistaken, he already have that Max for the rookie and TNT can't exceed to that aside from behind the doors negotiations which is not part of his contract under PBA rules.

Additional perks that he can ask or TNT can offer to him while still under negotiation, we will know what will happen

after any updates / news regarding to Mike Williams.

A player like him that could be the franchise player of the team has to be taken care of by the team, he already proved himself, and bring a championship to the team, so there's no reason he will not get a max contract plus additional perks. Look how good the TNT was in their first team, even without Mikey Williams, they still beat the Magnolia Hotshots.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 05, 2022, 08:10:52 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on June 05, 2022, 07:54:20 AM

The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.

Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase

. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

Watching the game right now and bet on the under 176.5 and it looks like i'm going to win this one because it is a very low scoring one.

Though it's true that he really performed well last conference and he almost beat Benjie Paras record but he sign the contract and if I'm not mistaken, he already have that Max for the rookie and TNT can't exceed to that aside from behind the doors negotiations which is not part of his contract under PBA rules.

Additional perks that he can ask or TNT can offer to him while still under negotiation, we will know what will happen

after any updates / news regarding to Mike Williams.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 05, 2022, 08:10:52 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on June 05, 2022, 07:54:20 AM

The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.

Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase

. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

Watching the game right now and bet on the under 176.5 and it looks like i'm going to win this one because it is a very low scoring one.

No Mikey Williams, no problem for the TNT, they manage to beat the Magnolia hotshots and I'm happy to be able to put my bet on them after the first half. I got 1.95 odds for ML, not 2.00 but that's alright because the start of my PBA betting this season is a success.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 05, 2022, 07:54:20 AM

The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.

Yeah, no Mikey Williams as he is negotiating for a pay increase

. I think he deserve that after what he has shown in the last conference, he almost broke the record of Benjie Paras of being the only player to have awarded the ROY and MVP in the same season.

Watching the game right now and bet on the under 176.5 and it looks like i'm going to win this one because it is a very low scoring one.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 05, 2022, 07:51:35 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 04:45:55 PM

I understand that, but just for the sake of having fun, I will just bet on the ML, just a few pesos would do. And also, I notice that the totals are very low for both games, it's just aroud 170 +, I think that says the game will most likely go under.

Converge almost won the game, they were up almost in the entire stretch of the game until in the final minutes when they could not buy a basket when most needed. You almost got the ML win mate but no thanks to that late rally of ROS hehe but it's not only you who lost as my bet did not cover the spread, i have it ROS -4.5 Sad

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ROS still did not cover the spread, sorry man. ROS had a good 3rd quarter run, they outscored the Converge by 9 points, and in the 4th quarter, ROS put a good defense to win the game. Nice game by the new team, at least they showed us that they can compete against a good team like ROS.

Just do live betting man, win back your losses, LOL..
Enjoy the 2nd game, such a nice game for both championship contender teams.

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The first game was already concluded, Converge failed to have their first win in the league, they loss to ROS with a very close score.

77-79 Final score.

Now, let's go to the 2nd game, TNT vs Magnolia, currently tied now with both 42 points after the first half.
I didn't see Mikey Williams in the scorebox, I think he didn't play, but I still put my bet on the TNT.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 04:45:55 PM

I understand that, but just for the sake of having fun, I will just bet on the ML, just a few pesos would do. And also, I notice that the totals are very low for both games, it's just aroud 170 +, I think that says the game will most likely go under.

Converge almost won the game, they were up almost in the entire stretch of the game until in the final minutes when they could not buy a basket when most needed. You almost got the ML win mate but no thanks to that late rally of ROS hehe but it's not only you who lost as my bet did not cover the spread, i have it ROS -4.5 Sad

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 04:45:55 PM

I understand that, but just for the sake of having fun, I will just bet on the ML, just a few pesos would do. And also, I notice that the totals are very low for both games, it's just aroud 170 +, I think that says the game will most likely go under.

You have a point. Who knows that your bet for the sake of having fun might turn into a winning bet. Converge roster are not that totally new to the league in the first place as most of them are part of the former Alaska Aces and they got a good prospect in the Rookie Draft.

If they will upset the Rain Or Shine, that would be a big issue for this team as they were beaten by a bunch of new players in the league.

Just go ahead brother and follow your instinct. It's for fun as you said.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 04, 2022, 12:38:51 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on June 04, 2022, 07:28:29 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 06:51:41 AM

Let's try converge Moneyline, it's their first game maybe they will try to play harder to have their first win. This is basically the Alaska team, less the non star players, so the defense will still be there as I believe Alaska's coach was also hired to coach this new team. Also, betting on the under as I think it's a defensive game and all Filipino cup have low scores in most games.

Betting for Converge is very risky for now because of chemistry issues and their roster is not yet solid. Maybe a few more trades we can say that they are competitive but tomorrow against ROS, for me i would bet for the latter because their roster is intact (minus Jayvee Mocon) and the spread/handicap is not that high.

Time flies so fast that we are forgetting that it is PBA opening tomorrow

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Good luck and hope we can have a competition similar to what @inthelongrun is doing now with NBA games.

Exactly, even they already conduct sets of practices but in actual game it's a different scenarios, the chemistries still be untested

unlike with the ROS who already played together for longer time, they have the bond that can quickly sparks when they start attacking

the basket. We can't tell what will be the outcome of those opening games, if you have some spare you can bet if you don't have just

enjoy and analyze the games.

I understand that, but just for the sake of having fun, I will just bet on the ML, just a few pesos would do. And also, I notice that the totals are very low for both games, it's just aroud 170 +, I think that says the game will most likely go under.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 04, 2022, 07:28:29 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 06:51:41 AM

Let's try converge Moneyline, it's their first game maybe they will try to play harder to have their first win. This is basically the Alaska team, less the non star players, so the defense will still be there as I believe Alaska's coach was also hired to coach this new team. Also, betting on the under as I think it's a defensive game and all Filipino cup have low scores in most games.

Betting for Converge is very risky for now because of chemistry issues and their roster is not yet solid. Maybe a few more trades we can say that they are competitive but tomorrow against ROS, for me i would bet for the latter because their roster is intact (minus Jayvee Mocon) and the spread/handicap is not that high.

Time flies so fast that we are forgetting that it is PBA opening tomorrow

.

Good luck and hope we can have a competition similar to what @inthelongrun is doing now with NBA games.

Exactly, even they already conduct sets of practices but in actual game it's a different scenarios, the chemistries still be untested

unlike with the ROS who already played together for longer time, they have the bond that can quickly sparks when they start attacking

the basket. We can't tell what will be the outcome of those opening games, if you have some spare you can bet if you don't have just

enjoy and analyze the games.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 04, 2022, 06:51:41 AM

Let's try converge Moneyline, it's their first game maybe they will try to play harder to have their first win. This is basically the Alaska team, less the non star players, so the defense will still be there as I believe Alaska's coach was also hired to coach this new team. Also, betting on the under as I think it's a defensive game and all Filipino cup have low scores in most games.

Betting for Converge is very risky for now because of chemistry issues and their roster is not yet solid. Maybe a few more trades we can say that they are competitive but tomorrow against ROS, for me i would bet for the latter because their roster is intact (minus Jayvee Mocon) and the spread/handicap is not that high.

Time flies so fast that we are forgetting that it is PBA opening tomorrow

.

Good luck and hope we can have a competition similar to what @inthelongrun is doing now with NBA games.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 04, 2022, 06:20:50 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on June 03, 2022, 09:46:41 AM

I see, but let's find out this Sunday if he can really help the team to win. He is not the star player for sure as he is just a rookie, but as a far, we know if he would be able to contribute well or not.

Hey, let's give time for the kid. Regardless if he can help his team to win on Sunday or not, it should not be expected. Like you said he is just a rookie after all. Sometimes the potential of a player is only shown after several conferences. If he will have a great night on Sunday, then good.

Time flies so fast. The PBA All-Filipino Cup Conference will now begin tomorrow.

Before the tip-off, there will be the previous Season's individual awards winners first.

I almost missed that, good thing we have some posters here that are updating us with the start of the PBA.
By the way, betting odds tomorrow are already available in my book. you can check yours for more details.

Here are the odds

Coverge vs ROS (-3.5)
Hotspots vs TNT ( +1.5)

Let's try converge Moneyline, it's their first game maybe they will try to play harder to have their first win. This is basically the Alaska team, less the non star players, so the defense will still be there as I believe Alaska's coach was also hired to coach this new team. Also, betting on the under as I think it's a defensive game and all Filipino cup have low scores in most games.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 04, 2022, 06:20:50 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on June 03, 2022, 09:46:41 AM

I see, but let's find out this Sunday if he can really help the team to win. He is not the star player for sure as he is just a rookie, but as a far, we know if he would be able to contribute well or not.

Hey, let's give time for the kid. Regardless if he can help his team to win on Sunday or not, it should not be expected. Like you said he is just a rookie after all. Sometimes the potential of a player is only shown after several conferences. If he will have a great night on Sunday, then good.

Time flies so fast. The PBA All-Filipino Cup Conference will now begin tomorrow.

Before the tip-off, there will be the previous Season's individual awards winners first.

I almost missed that, good thing we have some posters here that are updating us with the start of the PBA.
By the way, betting odds tomorrow are already available in my book. you can check yours for more details.

Here are the odds

Coverge vs ROS (-3.5)
Hotspots vs TNT ( +1.5)

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 03, 2022, 09:46:41 AM

I see, but let's find out this Sunday if he can really help the team to win. He is not the star player for sure as he is just a rookie, but as a far, we know if he would be able to contribute well or not.

Hey, let's give time for the kid. Regardless if he can help his team to win on Sunday or not, it should not be expected. Like you said he is just a rookie after all. Sometimes the potential of a player is only shown after several conferences. If he will have a great night on Sunday, then good.

Time flies so fast. The PBA All-Filipino Cup Conference will now begin tomorrow.

Before the tip-off, there will be the previous Season's individual awards winners first.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 29, 2022, 08:55:13 AM

So what Ravena is trying to do here?

Is he playing safe but in the end will put NLEX hanging when he got his contract renewed?
I don't like that, he was thinking that he is a valuable piece of superstar and that the team would go after him, maybe as a sign of respect, he must make his decision final before reaching out the NLEX.

As far as my knowledge about that is concerned, Kiefer Ravena can manage to play at the "whole" PBA All-Filipino Cup Conference that's why even though there's a new contract offered to him in Japan B-league, he can still help NLEX this upcoming conference on their rally. NLEX has no choice though as they are not even active in the trading market if there's a possibility to totally trade Ravena. Even Coach Yeng is interested in keeping him for the team.

We can call it disrespectful if, in the middle of the conference, he left out for the team just to accept the new offer to play in Japan.

Yeah, sounds special, and seems K. Ravena is overrated to me but that's what the agreement they have signed up.

That would be good if K. Ravena could finish the whole All-Filipino conference, at least he can help the team on their campaign for the whole conference and won't leave in the middle of the conference.

For me, this kind of agreement is okay, win-win situation for both NLEX and Keifer as we all knew that after Ravena is done in Japan, his experience is an asset that he can use in NLEX while the latter has the rights of the cager until his contract is finished with them.

I may be a bit late on this but Kiefer Ravena is confirmed won't be playing for the NLEX this All-Filipino Cup Conference.

When the final team's roster was released in Public a few days ago, Kiefer Ravena's name wasn't on the lineup for the NLEX Road Warriors.

We can now conclude that Kiefer will play at the Japan B-League with the new and fresh contract.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 03, 2022, 07:34:48 AM

I don't know much about Shaun Ildefonso, but thanks for sharing the schedule, I forgot that they will be opening this Sunday, maybe because I'm focused on the NBA Finals. Anyway, let's start betting on them, I will bet on converge, let's see if they will get their first win in the game opener.

This guy loves to drive, he has a big body that could move his defender. You can search some of his highlights in youtube.

Here's one ; Shaun Ildefonso leads Bulldogs to W | UAAP Season 84 Men's Basketball
This guy is only 6-foot-2 but his aggressiveness will certainly bring more energy to the team.

more about him : https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/shaun-ildefonso-submits-pba-draft-application/239152

When looking at him, I remember how Jeron Teng play though the shooting capabilities of Teng is different from Shaun but like you said Shawn loves to attack and have that strength to move his defender, though PBA is a different playground the defense is tougher than the college league. He will be tested on Sunday if how he will adjust and adopt this new place.

He is still young and if luck permits him, having a longer time playing will allow him to be more familiar and who knows what he can

be added to ROS and how coach Gavina will rotate him with the veterans.

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Quote from: Shamm on June 03, 2022, 09:36:43 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on June 03, 2022, 09:17:23 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on June 03, 2022, 09:02:21 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on June 03, 2022, 05:13:43 AM

What can you say about Shaun Ildefonso?

Can he be as good as his father, or even better?

Coverge will have their first game in the PBA this Sunday, I'm excited to see what this team can do in the PBA.

https://pba.ph/news/shaun-ildefonso-faces-father-s-team-in-pba-debut

Schedules.
https://pba.ph/schedule

Everything will be witness after his first game in this league. He's new and we don't know his capabilities,

if how impacting he is once he plays together with his team, comparing him to his father who's bigger, I personally say that

it will be a big challenge for him in creating his own resume. Danny I is one of the finest player who played in this league

the challenges from his two rising sons are really big, but let them grow and bring what they've got..

We have a new Ildefonso now in the PBA, his father was a great player, hopefully, he will not be pressured and he will make his own name. PBA is very physical, so he can use his big body to match the physicality given to him, with a new team, it's nice if he can build his new under this franchise.

Shaun ildefonso new player in PBA but a son of a legendary player in Philippine basketball association. All I can say after watching his highlights for this young guy will make his own name in this league like his father did before. These guy is very athletic and 6 foot 2 is okay he can use his muscle to guard his opponent and more aggressive in terms of defend. And for sure he is very useful for the team.

I see, but let's find out this Sunday if he can really help the team to win. He is not the star player for sure as he is just a rookie, but as a far, we know if he would be able to contribute well or not. seemed like the info is not updated yet, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Converge_FiberXers_roster

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 03, 2022, 09:17:23 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on June 03, 2022, 09:02:21 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on June 03, 2022, 05:13:43 AM

What can you say about Shaun Ildefonso?

Can he be as good as his father, or even better?

Coverge will have their first game in the PBA this Sunday, I'm excited to see what this team can do in the PBA.

https://pba.ph/news/shaun-ildefonso-faces-father-s-team-in-pba-debut

Schedules.
https://pba.ph/schedule

Everything will be witness after his first game in this league. He's new and we don't know his capabilities,

if how impacting he is once he plays together with his team, comparing him to his father who's bigger, I personally say that

it will be a big challenge for him in creating his own resume. Danny I is one of the finest player who played in this league

the challenges from his two rising sons are really big, but let them grow and bring what they've got..

We have a new Ildefonso now in the PBA, his father was a great player, hopefully, he will not be pressured and he will make his own name. PBA is very physical, so he can use his big body to match the physicality given to him, with a new team, it's nice if he can build his new under this franchise.

Shaun ildefonso new player in PBA but a son of a legendary player in Philippine basketball association. All I can say after watching his highlights for this young guy will make his own name in this league like his father did before. These guy is very athletic and 6 foot 2 is okay he can use his muscle to guard his opponent and more aggressive in terms of defend. And for sure he is very useful for the team.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 03, 2022, 09:02:21 AM

Quote from: Vaculin on June 03, 2022, 05:13:43 AM

What can you say about Shaun Ildefonso?

Can he be as good as his father, or even better?

Coverge will have their first game in the PBA this Sunday, I'm excited to see what this team can do in the PBA.

https://pba.ph/news/shaun-ildefonso-faces-father-s-team-in-pba-debut

Schedules.
https://pba.ph/schedule

Everything will be witness after his first game in this league. He's new and we don't know his capabilities,

if how impacting he is once he plays together with his team, comparing him to his father who's bigger, I personally say that

it will be a big challenge for him in creating his own resume. Danny I is one of the finest player who played in this league

the challenges from his two rising sons are really big, but let them grow and bring what they've got..

We have a new Ildefonso now in the PBA, his father was a great player, hopefully, he will not be pressured and he will make his own name. PBA is very physical, so he can use his big body to match the physicality given to him, with a new team, it's nice if he can build his new under this franchise.

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Quote from: Vaculin on June 03, 2022, 05:13:43 AM

What can you say about Shaun Ildefonso?

Can he be as good as his father, or even better?

Coverge will have their first game in the PBA this Sunday, I'm excited to see what this team can do in the PBA.

https://pba.ph/news/shaun-ildefonso-faces-father-s-team-in-pba-debut

Schedules.
https://pba.ph/schedule

Everything will be witness after his first game in this league. He's new and we don't know his capabilities,

if how impacting he is once he plays together with his team, comparing him to his father who's bigger, I personally say that

it will be a big challenge for him in creating his own resume. Danny I is one of the finest player who played in this league

the challenges from his two rising sons are really big, but let them grow and bring what they've got..

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