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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 29, 2022, 06:27:07 AM

As per below, his one-year contract has expired but he may be extended as there are rumors that a new contract has been offered so their meeting must be for another arrangement like before where he plays in the PBA while it is off-season in the Japan B-league and fly to Japan when the season there open, to me this arrangement will not do well with NLEX. It is better for them to let go Ravena and let him pay for the remaining contract that he has with them as he can't help in their campaign for the championship.

What kind of special treatment the PBA is giving this player, if he will go back and play in Japan B-league better to stay and focused
just like how his younger brother is doing right now. There are more young aspirants that can fill his spot and be rewarded to play in this league. If he's signing for NLEX, he should play for the whole contract that he has.

Just how you see it, NLEX might not benefit from this kind of deal, though knowing him and the legacy of his father with a close connection with the Pangilinan it won't be bothered,.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 29, 2022, 05:31:59 AM

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Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?

So his contract with Japan's B league is over?

That's what I'm saying, contracts overseas are mostly short-term only, that's why some PBA players just choose to stay in the PBA so they have an assurance that they'll continue to receive their salary for the long term. I guess Ravena spoke well to the management before he left the PBA, so I expect that the management will accept his comeback as well.

As per below, his one-year contract has expired but he may be extended as there are rumors that a new contract has been offered so their meeting must be for another arrangement like before where he plays in the PBA while it is off-season in the Japan B-league and fly to Japan when the season there open, to me this arrangement will not do well with NLEX. It is better for them to let go Ravena and let him pay for the remaining contract that he has with them as he can't help in their campaign for the championship.

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Ravena’s one-year deal with Shiga Lakestars in the Japan B.League already expired, but SPIN.ph learned from people close to the Filipino guard that a new contract offer has been put on the table.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 28, 2022, 06:00:01 PM

Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?

So his contract with Japan's B league is over?

That's what I'm saying, contracts overseas are mostly short-term only, that's why some PBA players just choose to stay in the PBA so they have an assurance that they'll continue to receive their salary for the long term. I guess Ravena spoke well to the management before he left the PBA, so I expect that the management will accept his comeback as well.

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^^ Have not seen Darvin Ham play in the PBA, I must have been very busy that time lol.

Anyways it's good that one former import of our beloved PBA got the chance to coach the LA Lakers, who knows he might give the franchise some championship rings before retiring/being kicked out.

Back to the PBA, have read in my social media news feed that K. Ravena and NLEX were meeting for a possible return, is this true?

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The last post here was May 24th and the thread is now on the 3rd page for the first time. Let's give it a bump.

I know you encounter the news already that Darvin Ham is the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. He plays as an import for the Talk N Text before. His name got hyped when he enter the PBA because he is part of the Championship Roster of the Detroit Pistons that won a championship against the Los Angeles Lakers way back in 2004. I won't forget that series because I lost my bet that time. Although not much used on the whole series, Darvin Ham is still a champion.

If some guys here watch PBA before, there's an iconic moment between Darvin Ham and Ranidel Ocampo. They both did a facial dunk with each other, first by Darvin Ham then Ranidel gets his revenge. It was called "in your face!" during that time.

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Quote from: Questat on May 23, 2022, 08:11:34 PM

Quote from: harizen on May 23, 2022, 06:58:21 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on May 23, 2022, 02:55:15 AM

I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

Since no one is to blame him but Coach Chot, he should be admitted that he's the reason for the failed campaign of PH in a much easy competition of basketball in the SEA Games. I think only 7-8 players play in that game. Can you imagine that? We are playing in a Gold stage then the roster is not complete? That's how brilliant Coach Chot is hehe.

And why was Coach Tab replaced? Find the article way back in 2020 about Coach Chot's statement regarding foreign Coaches and the status of PH basketball when handled by a foreign coach. I will try to find it later.

For sure, you will be disappointed once you read that article.

Actually, it's not necessary to read whatever article we can, by seeing the result and comparing the performance of coach Chot and coach Tab, you can already tell the big difference. Thing is, coach Chot brings most TNT players only, while coach Tab sees the players with a true potential.

All members of the team Philippines even players, coaches, and other team members want to claim a victory and claim the gold medal. But sad to say they did not have their lucky day and all they got is a silver medal. Even though they failed now but I assure next time they will make it, now they made a mistake nextime they must watch or plan every single move they do to prevent this kind of loss and claim the gold medal.

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Quote from: harizen on May 23, 2022, 06:58:21 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on May 23, 2022, 02:55:15 AM

I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

Since no one is to blame him but Coach Chot, he should be admitted that he's the reason for the failed campaign of PH in a much easy competition of basketball in the SEA Games. I think only 7-8 players play in that game. Can you imagine that? We are playing in a Gold stage then the roster is not complete? That's how brilliant Coach Chot is hehe.

And why was Coach Tab replaced? Find the article way back in 2020 about Coach Chot's statement regarding foreign Coaches and the status of PH basketball when handled by a foreign coach. I will try to find it later.

For sure, you will be disappointed once you read that article.

Actually, it's not necessary to read whatever article we can, by seeing the result and comparing the performance of coach Chot and coach Tab, you can already tell the big difference. Thing is, coach Chot brings most TNT players only, while coach Tab sees the players with a true potential.

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Quote from: freedomgo on May 23, 2022, 02:55:15 AM

I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

Since no one is to blame him but Coach Chot, he should be admitted that he's the reason for the failed campaign of PH in a much easy competition of basketball in the SEA Games. I think only 7-8 players play in that game. Can you imagine that? We are playing in a Gold stage then the roster is not complete? That's how brilliant Coach Chot is hehe.

And why was Coach Tab replaced? Find the article way back in 2020 about Coach Chot's statement regarding foreign Coaches and the status of PH basketball when handled by a foreign coach. I will try to find it later.

For sure, you will be disappointed once you read that article.

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Quote from: harizen on May 22, 2022, 06:26:55 PM

WTF Gilas. Even SMC teams in the PBA can beat team Indonesia. Coach Chot was too comfortable. I previously posted here my concern that Gilas struggles in Thailand during their first match in SEA Games which shows already what's the problem. Damn Chot, sitting out LeBron Lopez for most of the time where he's one of the good assets there to bring the ball down. The Ravena brothers seem tired already and Chot may be like these guys for real (don't take it seriously). All countries in South East Asia should be "easy" to the Gilas no matter how improved those. I used the word "easy" because it's a fact and for all the countries in the South East, we are the most basketball enthusiast.

If a team like Indonesia was able to beat them, Gilas should hope for fuck*ng changes in the squad as no way it can complete closely in the ASIAN games.

I think the players is not the problem, it's the coaching that is a big problem, and even coach Chot admitted that. We really need coach Tab, I don't know why they choose coach Chot again when Gilas was way better under the coaching job of coach Tab.

It's the first time we lose after many years of dominating the sea games, it should be a lesson learned for the SBP.

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WTF Gilas. Even SMC teams in the PBA can beat team Indonesia. Coach Chot was too comfortable. I previously posted here my concern that Gilas struggles in Thailand during their first match in SEA Games which shows already what's the problem. Damn Chot, sitting out LeBron Lopez for most of the time where he's one of the good assets there to bring the ball down. The Ravena brothers seem tired already and Chot may be like these guys for real (don't take it seriously). All countries in South East Asia should be "easy" to the Gilas no matter how improved those. I used the word "easy" because it's a fact and for all the countries in the South East, we are the most basketball enthusiast.

If a team like Indonesia was able to beat them, Gilas should hope for fuck*ng changes in the squad as no way it can complete closely in the ASIAN games.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA Grin

. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

In terms of urgency I go with you, TerraFirma needs help from available players who can bring them the reinforcement that they

need. Unlike Ginebra, they are still fully equipped and still very capable of winning another title. We don't need to worry much about any trades

that will soon to happen to this league, it's monopolized even it's hardly being denied but we see the things from how the management

continue to favor both Cojuangco and Pangilinan each time they demand for any trades.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 22, 2022, 02:10:00 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 21, 2022, 05:05:45 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA Grin

. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

We will eventually find it out who wins the trade once the season starts. It will start next month, so we better prepared our bet for that as for sure everyone will be putting their bets again. It's a long break, but the good thing is that everything is back to normal already.

Hopefully everything will again be smooth and we won't suffer on any breakout, better to wait for how those players will play this upcoming new season we will see how those trades will benefit both side, whoever wins the trade will reflect from how the players will deliver letting their presence be felt by the team who bring them and sign them for their assignments.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 22, 2022, 04:20:18 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on May 22, 2022, 02:10:00 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 21, 2022, 05:05:45 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA Grin

. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

We will eventually find it out who wins the trade once the season starts. It will start next month, so we better prepared our bet for that as for sure everyone will be putting their bets again. It's a long break, but the good thing is that everything is back to normal already.

That's right because according to the news, the new season will start on June 5 and it's just a few weeks from now. I'm not so familiar with the formate? What will be the start of the season? is it all Filipino Cup?

I think it will start with all Filipino cup.

As we can read in the news, https://sports.inquirer.net/460842/pba-back-to-three-conference-format-for-season-47

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The Philippine Cup, the pioneering pro league’s centerpiece tournament, is pencilled to begin on June 5. It is expected to run, barring any hitches, until September 2.

Also, there's no news regarding the arrival of imports, so we can assume that it's really an All Filipino Cup.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 22, 2022, 02:10:00 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 21, 2022, 05:05:45 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA Grin

. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

We will eventually find it out who wins the trade once the season starts. It will start next month, so we better prepared our bet for that as for sure everyone will be putting their bets again. It's a long break, but the good thing is that everything is back to normal already.

That's right because according to the news, the new season will start on June 5 and it's just a few weeks from now. I'm not so familiar with the formate? What will be the start of the season? is it all Filipino Cup?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 21, 2022, 05:05:45 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA Grin

. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

We will eventually find it out who wins the trade once the season starts. It will start next month, so we better prepared our bet for that as for sure everyone will be putting their bets again. It's a long break, but the good thing is that everything is back to normal already.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

That's the reality in our beloved PBA Grin

. Every trade has its own drama but fans/community can do nothing about it even if we rant on social media, that will not still have an effect on the decision of Willie Marcial.

In this case of Javy and Gray, i could that Terrafirma really needed guys that could help their campaign ASAP which they could not get from Gray as he is suffering/recovering from an injury while Ginebra could wait for his return as they won't need him as they have reliable guys on his position. Fair trade for me.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

You will get upset because you didn’t expect to be traded right away, but that’s ok and we should remember that this is PBA and we know how money works it.

Javi is still a good player, he should be more motivated to play and prove that he more worth it so by this he can increase his value and maybe in the future Ginebra will get him back. He’s still young and very talented, this can be a good start from him.

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Quote from: harizen on May 18, 2022, 06:29:59 PM

Feel bad for Javi Gomez de Liaño. After being drafted by Ginebra he was traded right away to Terrafirma DYIP.

Trades are usual but what I like to point out here is that Javi even tweeted that his dream was playing at Ginebra and it happened for real. Even Coach Tim Cone has a lot of good words for him. But later on, he was shipped to Terrafirma as this team requested him according to Coach Tim.

But he's in the right team for me. He will have more minutes in Terrafirma compared to Ginebra which already has lots of Guards and Forwards. He should show Ginebra what they give up.

He even posted after he got drafted, but days after being drafted, he got traded.
Well, Coach Tim can't control the management because it's out of his control, so he can't do anything about the trade.

Nothing new for me since we've seen SMC doing some unequal trades in the past already. The only problem that I see for Ginebra here is that, what if Gray will not be the same as he is before he got injured because it's an ACL injury. His situation might be the same as MPJ in Denver. On the other hand, TerraFirma got a three pointer and I think they need him just by looking at their current roster, but it would be better if they will get a big that will help them. Overall, I'm curious on how Gray will play in Ginebra.

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

They are not a championship team but just a farm team as per rumors. However, I don't agree that they are a trash team as a superstar could be born in this team, just like CJ Perez, he lead this team before and his good leadership was seen by a big team, and look where he is now, he is already playing with the SMB earning good minutes, sometimes he also plays as a starter, so I would say success does not only defend on what team you are playing with, it depends on your talent and how you are effectively using it regardless on what team you are playing.

absolutely you got the point mate no matter where a player being drafted at least he is doing his best for sure someday he will be known and became a strong and a good player in PBA. For me no matter where you belong even though in the lowest team but still you can prove that they will wrong team is just a team you can play what you are not because you are in the lowest team you are a weak player but without knowing that you became a star player someday if you will work hard.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on May 20, 2022, 09:42:05 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 20, 2022, 09:27:06 AM

Quote from: harizen on May 18, 2022, 06:29:59 PM

Feel bad for Javi Gomez de Liaño. After being drafted by Ginebra he was traded right away to Terrafirma DYIP.

Trades are usual but what I like to point out here is that Javi even tweeted that his dream was playing at Ginebra and it happened for real. Even Coach Tim Cone has a lot of good words for him. But later on, he was shipped to Terrafirma as this team requested him according to Coach Tim.

But he's in the right team for me. He will have more minutes in Terrafirma compared to Ginebra which already has lots of Guards and Forwards. He should show Ginebra what they give up.

He even posted after he got drafted, but days after being drafted, he got traded.
Well, Coach Tim can't control the management because it's out of his control, so he can't do anything about the trade.

Nothing new for me since we've seen SMC doing some unequal trades in the past already. The only problem that I see for Ginebra here is that, what if Gray will not be the same as he is before he got injured because it's an ACL injury. His situation might be the same as MPJ in Denver. On the other hand, TerraFirma got a three pointer and I think they need him just by looking at their current roster, but it would be better if they will get a big that will help them. Overall, I'm curious on how Gray will play in Ginebra.

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

They are not a championship team but just a farm team as per rumors. However, I don't agree that they are a trash team as a superstar could be born in this team, just like CJ Perez, he lead this team before and his good leadership was seen by a big team, and look where he is now, he is already playing with the SMB earning good minutes, sometimes he also plays as a starter, so I would say success does not only defend on what team you are playing with, it depends on your talent and how you are effectively using it regardless on what team you are playing.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 20, 2022, 09:27:06 AM

Quote from: harizen on May 18, 2022, 06:29:59 PM

Feel bad for Javi Gomez de Liaño. After being drafted by Ginebra he was traded right away to Terrafirma DYIP.

Trades are usual but what I like to point out here is that Javi even tweeted that his dream was playing at Ginebra and it happened for real. Even Coach Tim Cone has a lot of good words for him. But later on, he was shipped to Terrafirma as this team requested him according to Coach Tim.

But he's in the right team for me. He will have more minutes in Terrafirma compared to Ginebra which already has lots of Guards and Forwards. He should show Ginebra what they give up.

He even posted after he got drafted, but days after being drafted, he got traded.
Well, Coach Tim can't control the management because it's out of his control, so he can't do anything about the trade.

Nothing new for me since we've seen SMC doing some unequal trades in the past already. The only problem that I see for Ginebra here is that, what if Gray will not be the same as he is before he got injured because it's an ACL injury. His situation might be the same as MPJ in Denver. On the other hand, TerraFirma got a three pointer and I think they need him just by looking at their current roster, but it would be better if they will get a big that will help them. Overall, I'm curious on how Gray will play in Ginebra.

let's get realistic here, TerraFirma is not a team a player would want to play because it's a trash team and players are not as motivated when they are playing on a big team like Pangilinan and Cojuangco owned teams. PBA is just being monopolized, that's the real score actually, that's why I understand why players are upset when they get traded in a weak team.

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