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April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM
>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

The odds can be check now in rollbit.

You can see more spread but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5
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April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.
We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.
Then let us not speculate anymore, fixed or not, it only depends on how we believe and we can't prove anything without an evidence.

By the way, tomorrow is game 5, let's enjoy game 5 and hopefully the betting spread will be not to high for the Ginebra Kings again, we still want to bet feeling they'll cover when they win.

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A very crucial game for both teams, tonight we will see the handicap of this game, for sure Meralco will still be listed as the underdog but the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.
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April 16, 2022, 03:44:12 AM
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.
We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.
Then let us not speculate anymore, fixed or not, it only depends on how we believe and we can't prove anything without an evidence.

By the way, tomorrow is game 5, let's enjoy game 5 and hopefully the betting spread will be not to high for the Ginebra Kings again, we still want to bet feeling they'll cover when they win.

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April 15, 2022, 11:31:55 PM
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.
We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.
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April 15, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.
Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for a few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.
About jupeth Aguilar yes he can play but not just good unlike in his previous gameplay without being injured but it's a big advantage for the team cause like you said above if Japheth plays on the court his team gets motivated and have the potential to win against Meralco but not just easy cause we all know that Meralco is not an easy one the players are strong enough and this match is more interesting to watch. All our doubts will be answered during the match all we can do is put our bet that we feel will win.
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April 15, 2022, 05:44:23 PM
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.
We don’t really know what’s going on in the back office, this may be possible but no one knows.
Its better to focus on the game and just bet every single games, we still have few games left this conference will end so just enjoy it guys and go support your teams. Game 7 is still ok, at least the fans can see more intense actions with those players. I’ll just leave it here, stop my own speculation as well. Looking for the good odds for the next game, we’re near to the end.
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April 15, 2022, 05:24:39 PM
The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.
Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.
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April 15, 2022, 04:44:59 PM
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.
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April 15, 2022, 04:42:51 PM

As a spectator that claiming it looks scripted, you should give example on where you think the game becomes scripted. Don't just accused without specifying the parts of the game where the actual script is now taking place.

Can't blame people saying the game is scripted, it's their personal opinion only.

Personally, I see some games that look scripted but I keep it myself only as it's hard to convince people without evidence.
Even in the NBA, some say that games are rigged but there is no evidence, all are just speculations, actually, you can search on youtube if you are interested in seeing some conspiracy theory, so if it could happen in NBA, for sure it is could also happen in a local basketball league.

Just forget about the "scripted" thing because it will only result in a non-stop debate.
Let's talk about the next game instead.
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April 15, 2022, 04:34:35 PM
It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because obj is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.



Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win. Thompson and Brownlee received an award last game, which probably inspired them to play harder to even the series, but comes game 5, can we still see that great performance by Thompson?

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They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.
They'll have to re-evaluate the situation, they cannot afford to risk Japeth's health when the team can win without him.



BTW, Tenorio understands well the current series.
https://pba.ph/news/tenorio-on-govs-cup-finals-it-s-a-chess-match
Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.
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April 15, 2022, 04:20:09 PM
Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win.

If the series will end at Game 7, it looks scripted to you? Can you explain? Is that the basis to called the series scripted if it's reached Game 7? Therefore, you are saying that all series match should not reached Game 7 to prove to people that the game is not scripted? Since when reaching Game 7 becomes a sinful activity for both teams? Are they not allowed to reach the Final stage? If the series closed at Game 4 or 5, we can now call the series as not scripted? Sick to see this scripted or game-fixing where they didn't even watch the game.

As a spectator that claiming it looks scripted, you should give example on where you think the game becomes scripted. Don't just accused without specifying the parts of the game where the actual script is now taking place.
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April 15, 2022, 03:48:07 PM
It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.



Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win. Thompson and Brownlee received an award last game, which probably inspired them to play harder to even the series, but comes game 5, can we still see that great performance by Thompson?

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They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.
They'll have to re-evaluate the situation, they cannot afford to risk Japeth's health when the team can win without him.



BTW, Tenorio understands well the current series.
https://pba.ph/news/tenorio-on-govs-cup-finals-it-s-a-chess-match
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April 15, 2022, 03:40:18 PM
It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.
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April 15, 2022, 03:33:10 PM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

Japeth still have that influence within the team, knowing that he's around the players are motivated knowing that there's someone inside that will helps to grab the ball back, though it's though it's limited but still good impact to bring more boost with his teammates, game 5 still unclear still everyone's ball game.

The one that shows more team plays will earn the win for sure. It's a battle between a good system and executions.

Coach Black mentioned that every time they'll face the Gin Kings in the Finals, they always lose, so I'm sure they will try to find a way to win. Japeth is not getting his number due to limited minutes, and he is also very careful that he won't reinjure himself, so expect that Meralco will be more physical in game 5 since it's a very important game for them.
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April 15, 2022, 12:59:18 PM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

Japeth still have that influence within the team, knowing that he's around the players are motivated knowing that there's someone inside that will helps to grab the ball back, though it's though it's limited but still good impact to bring more boost with his teammates, game 5 still unclear still everyone's ball game.

The one that shows more team plays will earn the win for sure. It's a battle between a good system and executions.
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April 15, 2022, 07:41:59 AM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.
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April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM
Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.  Smiley

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?
I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.


If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
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The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.
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April 14, 2022, 06:22:14 PM
Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.  Smiley

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?
I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.


If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/
The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.
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April 14, 2022, 11:05:08 AM
<> game 5 who will win?  Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

Hard to tell, just go with your prediction so you'll enjoy watching the game. Both teams have good rest days, they'll be fully recharged once the series will resume this coming someday, but I am expecting it will be a thrilling game as for sure the arena will be full again.

IIRC, the live attendance last game was over 17k.
If this game will end until 7th and final game for sure the araneta will be full again of live audience who will want to watch the actual game and support their favorite team. 17k attendant its a big wow and a big number of attendance within we are still in pandemic and I think the setting capacity of araneta will not be enough if this game reach a do or die or game 7 .
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April 14, 2022, 10:53:58 AM
<> game 5 who will win?  Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

Hard to tell, just go with your prediction so you'll enjoy watching the game. Both teams have good rest days, they'll be fully recharged once the series will resume this coming someday, but I am expecting it will be a thrilling game as for sure the arena will be full again.

IIRC, the live attendance last game was over 17k.
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