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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

The odds is great, will surely take Ginebra for this one as well because I know the momentum is with them and they can really take the lead against Meralco.
The odds might change hours before the game, this is a good early catch up. Though of course we can't still underestimate Meralco, they are no longer the underdog here, both teams did a great game in the past 2 games and both of them can do more in the coming games.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 09, 2022, 07:15:18 AM

Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

Ginebra all the way, if this is a trap, then there's no problem with losing the game. I saw how JB carried the team in game 2, he would surely do the same in game 3 and I like the Ginebra now because they are using more players and the result is good because they are more effective. As long as Maliksi will be limited, there's a huge chance that Ginebra will win again.

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Game 3 odds are up again, take Ginebra again while it's still early, I'm sure the odds will move again, the current odds is only -2.5..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/philippines/pba-governors-cup/barangay-ginebra-vs-bolts-6251607edd7b3d8bf8e8b6af

over/under remains 190.5, I think it's going to be a very defensive game.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2022, 06:51:39 PM

I was happy that Ginebra won but not impressed with how they gave up that big lead. They began again comfortable when they are in a big lead and seems not under pressure to win. Meralco slowly regained its momentum and successfully managed to cut the lead in the long run. It just showed us that Meralco won't easily give up even if the game is on Ginebra's momentum.

If that happened again, Ginebra might be in trouble. Meralco seems to be more inspired to take the championship at this conference. They are all a threat and their plays become more improved, far better when they upset the no.1 seed Magnolia during the semis.

If only Brownlee didn't snatch the ball from Banchero, they might get that victory as well.
Its only a 3 point lead with the Meralco with the momentum with only less than a minute I think but Brownlee snatched the ball from Banchero and a ferocious dunk. From a one possession that can be tied to a 2 possession ball game and that dunk from Brownlee is the dagger to the Bolts thus, Ginebra got the victory.

On the other hand though, I agree that there was a time where Ginebra got overconfident and let their huge lead go away. We know how good Meralco is at defense and even Magnolia is having a hard time getting their shots because of their defense. Meralco really is more inspired now. We know how many times Ginebra defeated them in a Finals match-up. Meralco is more determined now to get the revenge and the championship as well against Ginebra but I know that Ginebra will not give up (Never Say Die).

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 08, 2022, 11:21:14 PM

I see this game the other way. We know that PBA is also a big business in terms of gambling. There are many available odds where gamblers can bet during the live events,

I disagree with your suspicion mate since it's already common not just in PBA to have live betting options that something like, for let's say Ginebra -10 or Meralco +12 during the time the Bolts were behind a big lead. There's no business involved there as it's usual to see a distribution of odds like that during a dominance of one team over another.

At some point in my gambling experience, I always live bet not just in PBA but for other small leagues on international as well that's why it's just common to see big handicaps for the dominating team once they are in the big lead. In my observation, once the lead maintained at least 15+ points, the handicap is around -12 for the dominant team, especially during the last minutes of the regulation. Or can you share other scenarios that you think are suspicious on a live bet aside from what I have stated? Maybe what I shared isn't the one you are referring to.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 08, 2022, 06:51:39 PM

I was happy that Ginebra won but not impressed with how they gave up that big lead. They began again comfortable when they are in a big lead and seems not under pressure to win. Meralco slowly regained its momentum and successfully managed to cut the lead in the long run. It just showed us that Meralco won't easily give up even if the game is on Ginebra's momentum.

If that happened again, Ginebra might be in trouble. Meralco seems to be more inspired to take the championship at this conference. They are all a threat and their plays become more improved, far better when they upset the no.1 seed Magnolia during the semis.

I see this game the other way. We know that PBA is also a big business in terms of gambling. There are many available odds where

gamblers can bet during the live events, hahaha Wink

but kidding aside, it's true that Meralco is really eager to win this season. If Ginebra

will continue playing this way, the chance that Meralco will snatch this series from them. They need not to let Meralco to make such

rally. Still lots of actions to witness between these two teams. Best to pick sides and hope for the best outcome.

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 06:34:36 PM

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And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

With how close the game is, I think it will be a long series. We've all seen how the Boltz has a big run to trim the lead of the Ginebra to single digit only despite they are leading at least 20 points in the game, so this Meralco team is a real threat, it's just that Ginebra played well in game 2.

The edge here is on the import, Brownlee is still unstoppable, they can double him but he could still find a way to score.

Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

When Meralco was behind around 20+ points, many fans now conclude that Game 1 is just a luck game for Meralco, and Game 2 will be an easy win for the Kings. And the rally was made by Meralco on 3Q cutting the lead down to only single-digit and that's the start of the intense close game until the end.

We can't really conclude that this series is just about Ginebra. Meralco is really doing its best to keep up with Ginebra. They are also playing against the crowd and that's why I'm amazed that Meralco can still be in the momentum with a purpose to get from that big behind.

Game 3 is crucial and Meralco might bounce back. They still have players who did not perform well and if those wake up, Ginebra will be up on another difficult challenge to win that game.

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I was happy that Ginebra won but not impressed with how they gave up that big lead. They began again comfortable when they are in a big lead and seems not under pressure to win. Meralco slowly regained its momentum and successfully managed to cut the lead in the long run. It just showed us that Meralco won't easily give up even if the game is on Ginebra's momentum.

If that happened again, Ginebra might be in trouble. Meralco seems to be more inspired to take the championship at this conference. They are all a threat and their plays become more improved, far better when they upset the no.1 seed Magnolia during the semis.

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If the game will reach Game 7, I doubt it's because of wrong officiating. Meralco is a threat and their strength is equal to Ginebra.

What the Ginebra fans should be concerned about is the status of Brownlee. If Brownlee will be in his worst game, Ginebra won't have an answer to the dominance of Meralco. They should also learn to protect their big lead. They almost lose that game 2 and they just become serious when the lead is being cut by Meralco.

The Game 2 result gives me a headache on who's to bet on the next game.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 08, 2022, 05:35:06 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 05:26:24 PM

And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

With how close the game is, I think it will be a long series. We've all seen how the Boltz has a big run to trim the lead of the Ginebra to single digit only despite they are leading at least 20 points in the game, so this Meralco team is a real threat, it's just that Ginebra played well in game 2.

The edge here is on the import, Brownlee is still unstoppable, they can double him but he could still find a way to score.

Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

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Quote from: crzy on April 07, 2022, 04:58:22 PM

They have a good reason to bounce back, and they are capable to do this. I also want to go with Ginebra for that odds, its fair enough for me. Ginebra wont be affected by the result of Game 1, they will surely get their rhythm in Game 2 and take it. Brownlee should detonate his explosive performance, just like in the semis and I’m looking forward for this.

I also think that the game 2 will be Ginebra's. Well, I'm starting to think about the classic finals that we always use to see before. Like it will be reaching a game 7 for this series because that's how it goes and I'm sure that many have noticed it.
Brownlee would really show the monster of him on this match later and the game will be theirs.

You have a point. Ginebra will likely get Game 2 as it used to be like in any Finals series. They are being waked up after that Game 1 loss.

But Meralco seems to be more inspired. Coach Norman's goal was to beat Coach Tim Cone as he always loses to this Hall of Famer Coach in any playoffs or Final series. Is this the series he will beat Coach Tim Cone? It's just 1-0 and there are lots of remaining games in action.

And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

With how close the game is, I think it will be a long series. We've all seen how the Boltz has a big run to trim the lead of the Ginebra to single digit only despite they are leading at least 20 points in the game, so this Meralco team is a real threat, it's just that Ginebra played well in game 2.

The edge here is on the import, Brownlee is still unstoppable, they can double him but he could still find a way to score.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 07, 2022, 06:26:28 PM

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Quote from: crzy on April 07, 2022, 04:58:22 PM

They have a good reason to bounce back, and they are capable to do this. I also want to go with Ginebra for that odds, its fair enough for me. Ginebra wont be affected by the result of Game 1, they will surely get their rhythm in Game 2 and take it. Brownlee should detonate his explosive performance, just like in the semis and I’m looking forward for this.

I also think that the game 2 will be Ginebra's. Well, I'm starting to think about the classic finals that we always use to see before. Like it will be reaching a game 7 for this series because that's how it goes and I'm sure that many have noticed it.
Brownlee would really show the monster of him on this match later and the game will be theirs.

You have a point. Ginebra will likely get Game 2 as it used to be like in any Finals series. They are being waked up after that Game 1 loss.

But Meralco seems to be more inspired. Coach Norman's goal was to beat Coach Tim Cone as he always loses to this Hall of Famer Coach in any playoffs or Final series. Is this the series he will beat Coach Tim Cone? It's just 1-0 and there are lots of remaining games in action.

And they did won the game 2.
So there are 5 more games if ever this is going to reach up to game 7 but the chance is big for this series to reach there. It's always going to be a side by side standing and scoring for them.
And that's what I think I'm believing right now but if not then it's just going to be a game 5 if one of them manages to win 3 more straight wins.

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Quote from: Johnyz on April 08, 2022, 04:03:48 PM

Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.

Referees can be questioned if they made an obvious wrong calls, this is not a good practice in PBA but yeah, its happening sometimes so there’s a high possibility that we go in game 7 but its too early to discuss this, we’re still in game 3 and we know both teams wants to take the lead. Meralco is very close, it was not a huge game for Ginbera so they should not be complacent. Meralco will bounce back, they just need to cheer their import and encourage him to do his best always.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 08, 2022, 04:13:33 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on April 08, 2022, 04:03:48 PM

Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.

Even if I don’t believe on this, there’s a possibility for this scenario especially if Money talks already.
Let’s just enjoy every game, because the season is about to end and we might wait for months again before we see them playing back in court. Game 3 will be big this weekend, expect a more intense game and I also see Ginebra to take the lead, looking for the best odds now for Ginebra.

Most especially enjoy betting as you cannot enjoy watching without risking money. For non-bettors, it's better for them not to know about rigged games because they will only be disappointed and will only make their own speculation as well, not good for the PBA.

The missing link for Meralco in game 2 is Maliksi, he was scoreless in game 2 and only earned a few minutes.

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Quote from: goaldigger on April 08, 2022, 04:43:08 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 08, 2022, 04:13:33 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on April 08, 2022, 04:03:48 PM

Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.

Even if I don’t believe on this, there’s a possibility for this scenario especially if Money talks already.
Let’s just enjoy every game, because the season is about to end and we might wait for months again before we see them playing back in court. Game 3 will be big this weekend, expect a more intense game and I also see Ginebra to take the lead, looking for the best odds now for Ginebra.

Games 7 because of the great players and not because of the referees because both team can easily expose if they know the game is fixed so let’s not think about money here because it doesn’t work like this even if they lose money during pandemic, they can’t just be greedy this time since there still a lot of years to come which means big money to them. Meralco will not be intimidated with the crowds of Ginebra, they will surely do better in the next game.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 08, 2022, 07:47:45 AM

I got lucky tonight. Go Ginebra!
~snip~
I am nervous a bit when Bolts make a run and make it a 2 point game, but good thing Brownlee take over and did not give up.
Ginebra are good in closing game so I trust them to win, and they succeeded tonight.

Series now is tied 1-1.

Congrats mate, lucky you to have got that -1.5 handicap with that kind of odds. Mine is -3.5 and i got a little nervous in the dying seconds of the game because if one of those missed threes by Meralco went in, that could have been a disaster for me hehe.

I think this series will be a close one and this could go to either game 6 or game 7 so let's analyze first before putting our bet.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 08, 2022, 04:13:33 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on April 08, 2022, 04:03:48 PM

Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.

Even if I don’t believe on this, there’s a possibility for this scenario especially if Money talks already.
Let’s just enjoy every game, because the season is about to end and we might wait for months again before we see them playing back in court. Game 3 will be big this weekend, expect a more intense game and I also see Ginebra to take the lead, looking for the best odds now for Ginebra.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 08, 2022, 04:13:33 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on April 08, 2022, 04:03:48 PM

Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

That would make the game exciting if you don't believe in rig, but if you do, it still gives you an advantage if you are betting on these games.
I actually like to put a bet on Ginebra in game 3, then double in case they will lose.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 08, 2022, 04:13:33 PM

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.

Get them next time bro... I'm sure as a fan you'll find a way to watch the game in actual.

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Quote from: Johnyz on April 08, 2022, 04:03:48 PM

Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

Unfortunately, it's not them who will decide, it's the refs coming from the order of the management (if the game is rigged).
As previously discussed, we know that more games mean more money coming in, not only from the people watching the game but also from the people betting on the game.

I've been to Manila last week but it's just so unfortunate I was too busy, I was not able to watch the first game of the series live.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 08, 2022, 03:52:18 PM

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Quote from: Japinat on April 08, 2022, 07:47:45 AM

I got lucky tonight. Go Ginebra!

I am nervous a bit when Bolts make a run and make it a 2 point game, but good thing Brownlee take over and did not give up.
Ginebra are good in closing game so I trust them to win, and they succeeded tonight.

Series now is tied 1-1.

As expected, Ginebra wont give up easily and many knows that Ginebra will bounce back and they did. Luckily I was able to place my bet as well and have some profit. Going into game 3, I’m confident that Ginebra will take it now that they are already on their Rhythm and Bronwlee will always deliver. This is an exciting match up for the delight of the fans, I wish to want the game live hopefully in the next game.

Game 3 could either be Ginebra or Meralco, if you saw how Meralco was able to come back in the game, it's possible that it will become a close series and I think the underdog has a good value here. I hope the line would be -5 for Ginebra in game 3 so I would take the Meralco ML.

congrats @Japinat

I think that -5 is not possible, maybe -3.5 is the max, and yes I also believe that Meralco has a good chance of winning the next game as the organization will only like this series to reach game 6 or 7. Next game will be on Sunday, imagine how big the crowd on that day and they'll support Ginebra to win.

-5 is too much I guess since as we can see the game both teams are playing well and even if I’m with Ginebra with that odds, I will surely place my bet on Meralco. The weekend games are crucial for Meralco as we know the crowds for Ginebra but they should not be intimidated and just focus with the game. Game 7 are possible but I know Ginebra wont go for that because its too risky for them, that’s why they have to work hard now.

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