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Quote from: Vaculin on April 15, 2022, 03:48:07 PM

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It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because obj is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win. Thompson and Brownlee received an award last game, which probably inspired them to play harder to even the series, but comes game 5, can we still see that great performance by Thompson?

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They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.

They'll have to re-evaluate the situation, they cannot afford to risk Japeth's health when the team can win without him.

BTW, Tenorio understands well the current series.
https://pba.ph/news/tenorio-on-govs-cup-finals-it-s-a-chess-match

Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

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Quote from: Vaculin on April 15, 2022, 03:48:07 PM

Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win.

If the series will end at Game 7, it looks scripted to you? Can you explain? Is that the basis to called the series scripted if it's reached Game 7? Therefore, you are saying that all series match should not reached Game 7 to prove to people that the game is not scripted? Since when reaching Game 7 becomes a sinful activity for both teams? Are they not allowed to reach the Final stage? If the series closed at Game 4 or 5, we can now call the series as not scripted? Sick to see this scripted or game-fixing where they didn't even watch the game.

As a spectator that claiming it looks scripted, you should give example on where you think the game becomes scripted. Don't just accused without specifying the parts of the game where the actual script is now taking place.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 15, 2022, 03:40:18 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win. Thompson and Brownlee received an award last game, which probably inspired them to play harder to even the series, but comes game 5, can we still see that great performance by Thompson?

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They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.

They'll have to re-evaluate the situation, they cannot afford to risk Japeth's health when the team can win without him.

BTW, Tenorio understands well the current series.
https://pba.ph/news/tenorio-on-govs-cup-finals-it-s-a-chess-match

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 15, 2022, 12:59:18 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 15, 2022, 07:41:59 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

Japeth still have that influence within the team, knowing that he's around the players are motivated knowing that there's someone inside that will helps to grab the ball back, though it's though it's limited but still good impact to bring more boost with his teammates, game 5 still unclear still everyone's ball game.

The one that shows more team plays will earn the win for sure. It's a battle between a good system and executions.

Coach Black mentioned that every time they'll face the Gin Kings in the Finals, they always lose, so I'm sure they will try to find a way to win. Japeth is not getting his number due to limited minutes, and he is also very careful that he won't reinjure himself, so expect that Meralco will be more physical in game 5 since it's a very important game for them.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 15, 2022, 07:41:59 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

Japeth still have that influence within the team, knowing that he's around the players are motivated knowing that there's someone inside that will helps to grab the ball back, though it's though it's limited but still good impact to bring more boost with his teammates, game 5 still unclear still everyone's ball game.

The one that shows more team plays will earn the win for sure. It's a battle between a good system and executions.

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

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Quote from: blockman on April 14, 2022, 06:22:14 PM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 14, 2022, 08:54:55 AM

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 14, 2022, 09:26:36 AM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 14, 2022, 08:54:55 AM

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 14, 2022, 10:53:58 AM

Quote from: Shamm on April 14, 2022, 10:45:46 AM

<> game 5 who will win? Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

Hard to tell, just go with your prediction so you'll enjoy watching the game. Both teams have good rest days, they'll be fully recharged once the series will resume this coming someday, but I am expecting it will be a thrilling game as for sure the arena will be full again.

IIRC, the live attendance last game was over 17k.

If this game will end until 7th and final game for sure the araneta will be full again of live audience who will want to watch the actual game and support their favorite team. 17k attendant its a big wow and a big number of attendance within we are still in pandemic and I think the setting capacity of araneta will not be enough if this game reach a do or die or game 7 .

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Quote from: Shamm on April 14, 2022, 10:45:46 AM

<> game 5 who will win? Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

Hard to tell, just go with your prediction so you'll enjoy watching the game. Both teams have good rest days, they'll be fully recharged once the series will resume this coming someday, but I am expecting it will be a thrilling game as for sure the arena will be full again.

IIRC, the live attendance last game was over 17k.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 14, 2022, 09:26:36 AM

Quote from: blockman on April 14, 2022, 09:20:49 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 14, 2022, 08:54:55 AM

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

In game four between ginebra San Miguel vs meralco bolts in the first half end a both 41 points and a very close fight from them but in the and half ginebra Dan Miguel use their starts and their imports ad well doing great with Thompson and LA tenorio who carrying their teams into vector and the series will tied to 2-2 game 5 who will win? Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

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Quote from: blockman on April 14, 2022, 09:20:49 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 14, 2022, 08:54:55 AM

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 13, 2022, 06:59:08 PM

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Well, it has became a norm that whenever the finals come. There's like a "script" that's on going and the other team has to make way for them to tie the score and standings.
Seriously, it's really hard to go with the belief that has been being passed for a long time. Even I, I was in that belief before but realizing the intensity of the matches and the speculations that you've said. It's highly unlikely that any of them would really go on with that play for them to say that the game 4 was fixed.

Game-fixing issues are really involving every final but I doubt PBA will go as far as that just to extend the current series to Game 7. It will bring a negative impact on the league and that will hurt their reputation.

As far as my observation is concerned on this Finals, I don't understand why should we end up with game-fixing issues? The game is really played hard by both Ginebra and Meralco and what else can we do if they are in a 2-2 series now? Why should we link it to a game-fixing? They are playing on their own not influenced by someone or anything else.

I think there's one player that have said of this and he's been punished. It has just became a belief because it's like a pattern that we usually see. And that's what I think also before but I've got cleared and just let it be whatever is happening inside. I just want to enjoy this and it's sort of hard to accept when the fans are still believing on it whenever their favored team has lost.

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 14, 2022, 08:54:55 AM

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

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Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that.

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

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Rigged games or game-fixing had been a norm to excite audiences, but it is done in secret for sure. About this game 4 being fixed is only a rumor until proven otherwise, it will stay as a rumor and should be believed as not true. Entertainment is a business so let them do their business to entertain us. Let's just watch and enjoy the game.

Quote from: goinmerry on April 13, 2022, 06:05:40 PM

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There might be some rigged officiating but I don't consider Game 4 as rigged or even those past games. ....

Well, if officials are rigging the game then it is rigged but of course, it is our right to believe it or not

. But as I said, there is no proof that game 4 is rigged. The audience can speculate or whatever, it is their right to imagine things or interpret what they witnessed but it does not mean that it is true or they are right in their speculations.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 13, 2022, 06:05:40 PM

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There might be some rigged officiating but I don't consider Game 4 as rigged or even those past games. Ginebra and Meralco do their best on those wins. Please don't put a question about their winnings or losing. Did you guys know that if PBA is proven to be rigged, most PBA legends will come out to voice their criticism? Take a look at also at PBA page and see some comments. You won't see any real fan saying that Game 4 is game-fixing and they will allow the series to go in Game 7. They are just coming back from the pandemic and they will put dirt on those games?

This is why I'm not agreeing to the fact that there is a game-fixing in any of the games especially in the Playoffs even though there are some incidents that are pretty obvious. I agree with what you said that there are no veterans that are saying that games are rigged. Only audiences and those who are watching in the television are the ones saying.

Like I said, there are no evidences to whether a game is fixed or not and maybe lets remove that mindset that games are fixed in PBA. I think it would be better to just enjoy watching the game and support the team that we want to support. Lets forget about game fixing or monopoly etc. but lets just enjoy watching since PBA was created to make people enjoy right

. Lets take note that PBA has been gone for quite some time due to the pandemic so.. instead of thinking "This game was rigged" etc. lets change our thinking. TBH, I also thought of game-fixing in PBA in the past already because there are some games who are pretty obvious that it is but I'm not enjoying watching the game that is why I change the way I'm thinking of every game already and I hope some here will do the same

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 13, 2022, 10:17:00 PM

Maybe yes, there's a game fixing that surrounds the PBA, but we are talking about to giant companies, the results of this
finals will bring glory to the entire business. I guess that's why teams are really eager to win.

These two giants has no competition, especially for Meralco which is the biggest electric provider in the Philippines. This is some sort of advertising only, if there was a fixed, I'm sure that direction is not coming from the team owners, but those who run the PBA. (But these are just rumors).

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 13, 2022, 06:59:08 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 13, 2022, 06:28:57 PM

Well, it has became a norm that whenever the finals come. There's like a "script" that's on going and the other team has to make way for them to tie the score and standings.
Seriously, it's really hard to go with the belief that has been being passed for a long time. Even I, I was in that belief before but realizing the intensity of the matches and the speculations that you've said. It's highly unlikely that any of them would really go on with that play for them to say that the game 4 was fixed.

Game-fixing issues are really involving every final but I doubt PBA will go as far as that just to extend the current series to Game 7. It will bring a negative impact on the league and that will hurt their reputation.

As far as my observation is concerned on this Finals, I don't understand why should we end up with game-fixing issues? The game is really played hard by both Ginebra and Meralco and what else can we do if they are in a 2-2 series now? Why should we link it to a game-fixing? They are playing on their own not influenced by someone or anything else.

A kind of mindset that already been develop inside the fans who keep losing their bets.. But for the fans, they are cheering for the players and the teams that they've love we can't remove the fact that there are still many of them especially for the Ginebra side whatever happens they will keep cheering for this team.

The finals are being played by these two teams and they are really fighting for it.

Maybe yes, there's a game fixing that surrounds the PBA, but we are talking about to giant companies, the results of this
finals will bring glory to the entire business. I guess that's why teams are really eager to win.

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Quote from: blockman on April 13, 2022, 06:28:57 PM

Well, it has became a norm that whenever the finals come. There's like a "script" that's on going and the other team has to make way for them to tie the score and standings.
Seriously, it's really hard to go with the belief that has been being passed for a long time. Even I, I was in that belief before but realizing the intensity of the matches and the speculations that you've said. It's highly unlikely that any of them would really go on with that play for them to say that the game 4 was fixed.

Game-fixing issues are really involving every final but I doubt PBA will go as far as that just to extend the current series to Game 7. It will bring a negative impact on the league and that will hurt their reputation.

As far as my observation is concerned on this Finals, I don't understand why should we end up with game-fixing issues? The game is really played hard by both Ginebra and Meralco and what else can we do if they are in a 2-2 series now? Why should we link it to a game-fixing? They are playing on their own not influenced by someone or anything else.

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