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Quote from: Shamm on April 15, 2022, 06:00:28 PM

Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted for sure they have a chance to win

Ginebra may have more options to score if Japeth will play longer in the next game but it isn't assurance that they will win the game. Japeth might not play 100% because of he is still recovering from his recent injury.

Japeth Aguilar is not 100 percent healthy but even though he will be playing limited minutes, that would be a big help for Ginebra because that would mean rest for CStand if the latter is inside the court. In this kind of them, the team that has an edge in defense would likely win the crown and that is what Japeth brings to the team.

Ginebra -1.5 @1.87, the spread is getting thinner, might be a trap for the Ginebra fans but I'm on them for this game.

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Quote from: blockman on April 15, 2022, 05:24:39 PM

Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for a few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.

About jupeth Aguilar yes he can play but not just good unlike in his previous gameplay without being injured but it's a big advantage for the team cause like you said above if Japheth plays on the court his team gets motivated and have the potential to win against Meralco but not just easy cause we all know that Meralco is not an easy one the players are strong enough and this match is more interesting to watch. All our doubts will be answered during the match all we can do is put our bet that we feel will win.

There's always the big change whenever a good player has no injury and has injury. Well on his case, he's no longer that much of expectation. He's more prone now to another injury since he's got one.
Later, the game 5 is about to happen and we're going to see who will have the advantage for this match. I think this is one of the most important match on this series because it sets the momentum for the winning team.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, they might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their money line odds.

The odds can be checked now in rollbit.

You can see more spreads but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted for sure they have a chance to win

The odds are good and its the usual odds that gives Ginebra the advantage to place a bet but yeah the game result will always depend on their strategy and if both team plays more physical here, I also see the advantage of Meralco for doing that. We’ve see both teams doing their best effort to win, and this Game 5 is very crucial but yeah I also go for the side of Ginebra this time, they have a good momentum and I hope they can able to continue that.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 16, 2022, 12:02:29 PM

Quote from: Japinat on April 16, 2022, 07:08:32 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

The odds can be check now in rollbit.

You can see more spread but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Wow, early odds, should take the Ginebra with -2.5 only as it might move higher as the game time is approaching. Ginebra will still play the same intensity, they already gain the momentum from their good win in game 4, so we can expect that they will have a great game tomorrow. Leaning on the under in this match, if it will be a defensive game, the under should hit.

If Coach Norman will duplicate that system from their game 3 win, The chance of hitting the under is very possible. They need to minimize or

try to stop Brownlee, if they allow him to do his usual type of game the chance of winning this game 5 will be for the Gin Kings. Hogde needs

to work overtime to play tough defense against Brownlee, he needs to play more minutes to shadow Gins import like the way he did last

game 3.

Meralco has a chance to win if they do that strategy they need a better guard for Justin Brownlee cause the ginebra import is unstoppable if the guard is weak so they need a stronger and tougher guard and all they need is cliff hudge, cause cliff is a better guard and have competitive skills with brownlee. But if cliff has a less time to play for sure they will not win. In the other side they will used maketh aguilar to break meralcos start I think this game 5 win be the best game in this conference.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 16, 2022, 12:02:29 PM

Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted for sure they have a chance to win

Ginebra may have more options to score if Japeth will play longer in the next game but it isn't assurance that they will win the game. Japeth might not play 100% because of he is still recovering from his recent injury.

If Coach Norman will duplicate that system from their game 3 win, The chance of hitting the under is very possible. They need to minimize or

try to stop Brownlee, if they allow him to do his usual type of game the chance of winning this game 5 will be for the Gin Kings. Hogde needs

to work overtime to play tough defense against Brownlee, he needs to play more minutes to shadow Gins import like the way he did last

game 3.

Make sense, if they shut down Brownlee in this coming game, it will be difficult for Ginebra to do what they typically do in their gameplay, the triangle offense might be difficult to execute with Brownlee being tightly guarded, and may give Meralco a better chance of winning the game.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 16, 2022, 07:08:32 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

The odds can be check now in rollbit.

You can see more spread but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Wow, early odds, should take the Ginebra with -2.5 only as it might move higher as the game time is approaching. Ginebra will still play the same intensity, they already gain the momentum from their good win in game 4, so we can expect that they will have a great game tomorrow. Leaning on the under in this match, if it will be a defensive game, the under should hit.

If Coach Norman will duplicate that system from their game 3 win, The chance of hitting the under is very possible. They need to minimize or

try to stop Brownlee, if they allow him to do his usual type of game the chance of winning this game 5 will be for the Gin Kings. Hogde needs

to work overtime to play tough defense against Brownlee, he needs to play more minutes to shadow Gins import like the way he did last

game 3.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 09:33:57 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, they might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their money line odds.

The odds can be checked now in rollbit.

You can see more spreads but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted for sure they have a chance to win

Japeth Aguilar is still not 100%, remember the last game, he played few minutes but was taken out in the game because he felt that he aggravated his injury. If they will put him even not 100%, they are just risking the health of Japeth here, besides the series is tied, so no need to rush.

Last game he was scoreless and played only 10 minutes.
https://pba.ph/recap?match=2079266

It will be a risk putting him inside while his injury is not being cured 100%. Game 4 was a surprise to coach Black, but for sure they will find good adjustment to try winning this important game. With Japeth inside they are having problem penetrating inside, even it's just a 10 minute game it's still bring impact to the entire rotations.

Game 5 would be another interesting game, If Ginebra will push to finish this series in a much earlier time they need to win
this game and forced to take the title in game 6.

Not an expert, but let see if Ginebra will change the tempo of this series this coming game 6.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, they might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their money line odds.

The odds can be checked now in rollbit.

You can see more spreads but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted for sure they have a chance to win

Japeth Aguilar is still not 100%, remember the last game, he played few minutes but was taken out in the game because he felt that he aggravated his injury. If they will put him even not 100%, they are just risking the health of Japeth here, besides the series is tied, so no need to rush.

Last game he was scoreless and played only 10 minutes.
https://pba.ph/recap?match=2079266

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, they might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their money line odds.

The odds can be checked now in rollbit.

You can see more spreads but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Nice odds but in this game ill put my bet on ginbera cause if they will used japeth aguilar in this game for sure they get the win cause the strategy of meralco bolts will be loss. And if they are used a physical contact meralco will be aggressive and ginebra will suffer in terms of adjusting the physical game but if they are already adjusted for sure they have a chance to win

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Quote from: Japinat on April 16, 2022, 07:08:32 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

The odds can be check now in rollbit.

You can see more spread but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Wow, early odds, should take the Ginebra with -2.5 only as it might move higher as the game time is approaching. Ginebra will still play the same intensity, they already gain the momentum from their good win in game 4, so we can expect that they will have a great game tomorrow. Leaning on the under in this match, if it will be a defensive game, the under should hit.

I will go for Meralco Bolts this time around. I know this game is a game 7 which is a win-lose-win story. I will choose higher -ve handicap tomorrow for Bolts when the match start. PBA Championship with Ginebra is always like this especially this 2 teams has a history of rivalry in finals. I think coach Norman Black will adjust and surprise us again to shutdown JB on the next round.

Good luck on that, seems like you are going against the majority, or we call it the public bettors. Ginebra could take the lead or lose game 5, but it doesn't matter because they will win at least 1 game to even the series before we will reach game 7.

I am thinking of betting on the Gin Kings -2.5 next game then double the bet if I lose.
I think this strategy is vetry popular here.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 16, 2022, 06:59:10 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

The odds can be check now in rollbit.

You can see more spread but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

Wow, early odds, should take the Ginebra with -2.5 only as it might move higher as the game time is approaching. Ginebra will still play the same intensity, they already gain the momentum from their good win in game 4, so we can expect that they will have a great game tomorrow. Leaning on the under in this match, if it will be a defensive game, the under should hit.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 16, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

>>>>>> the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

The odds can be check now in rollbit.

You can see more spread but the main spread are as follows.
Ginebra -2.5
Meralco +2.5

Also, the under/over is 184.5

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Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.

We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.

Then let us not speculate anymore, fixed or not, it only depends on how we believe and we can't prove anything without an evidence.

By the way, tomorrow is game 5, let's enjoy game 5 and hopefully the betting spread will be not to high for the Ginebra Kings again, we still want to bet feeling they'll cover when they win.

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A very crucial game for both teams, tonight we will see the handicap of this game, for sure Meralco will still be listed as the underdog but the question is how high the points handicap the Ginebra could give them. Since we are expecting to see a game 7, then might as well I would put my bet on the Bolts to win in game 5 on their moneyline odds.

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Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.

We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.

Then let us not speculate anymore, fixed or not, it only depends on how we believe and we can't prove anything without an evidence.

By the way, tomorrow is game 5, let's enjoy game 5 and hopefully the betting spread will be not to high for the Ginebra Kings again, we still want to bet feeling they'll cover when they win.

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Quote from: blockman on April 15, 2022, 05:24:39 PM

Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.

We might not know, the world comes with full of surprises and who knows what team owners does behind the scene and what do they tell to every GM up to the players. Few articles explaining it's not fixed will make the community believe. I'm not saying it's true but everything is possible.

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

Quote from: blockman on April 14, 2022, 06:22:14 PM

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for a few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.

About jupeth Aguilar yes he can play but not just good unlike in his previous gameplay without being injured but it's a big advantage for the team cause like you said above if Japheth plays on the court his team gets motivated and have the potential to win against Meralco but not just easy cause we all know that Meralco is not an easy one the players are strong enough and this match is more interesting to watch. All our doubts will be answered during the match all we can do is put our bet that we feel will win.

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 15, 2022, 01:59:26 AM

Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.

We don’t really know what’s going on in the back office, this may be possible but no one knows.
Its better to focus on the game and just bet every single games, we still have few games left this conference will end so just enjoy it guys and go support your teams. Game 7 is still ok, at least the fans can see more intense actions with those players. I’ll just leave it here, stop my own speculation as well. Looking for the good odds for the next game, we’re near to the end.

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Quote from: blockman on April 14, 2022, 06:22:14 PM

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.

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