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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 10, 2022, 08:53:12 AM

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I predicted right from the start that Ginebra will win in 6 games but I will not surprised now if this will go in 7 games. That would be better and a win-win situation for the audiences and the management as well

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You'll be more surprised if Meralco will win the series.

The way it's happening now, looks like Meralco is more dominant than the Gin Kings. You see, if JB would struggle, the entire roster will not be productive, and Meralco took advantage of that, also, Meralco's import is more confident now, I think this is the first time that he outperformed brownlee in an import to import duel.

Meralco didn’t dominate the game though, they are still struggling to take the lead and good thing here most of the free throws of Ginbera are off, and since Meralco really wants to win they are able to do so. This is not a surprise anymore, maybe I just expect more from Ginebra and thought that the Momentum is with them but the result is different. They should bounce back in next game because if Meralco wins again in game 4, it will he hard for Ginebra to win again.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 10, 2022, 08:53:12 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 10, 2022, 08:40:25 AM

I predicted right from the start that Ginebra will win in 6 games but I will not surprised now if this will go in 7 games. That would be better and a win-win situation for the audiences and the management as well

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You'll be more surprised if Meralco will win the series.

The way it's happening now, looks like Meralco is more dominant than the Gin Kings. You see, if JB would struggle, the entire roster will not be productive, and Meralco took advantage of that, also, Meralco's import is more confident now, I think this is the first time that he outperformed brownlee in an import to import duel.

I'm a Ginebra fan but by looking the way things are happening right now, it's Meralco who's taking the business right. They are not afraid and they are more eager competing against the BRGY. A lot of adjustment are needed for Ginebra here, they need to work together and move the ball. I still believe that coach Tim will adjust to this kind of hype the Meralco is playing right now.

They need to overpower and break that momentum. It would not just be surprising but also interesting if Meralco win this series, they all bring SMC down right? Tongue

The loss of Japeth maybe was not felt by the fans but Ginebra really lack that inside presence that was abused by the Boltz. Meralco is not known to be an outside shooter, they usually drive the ball and they are having the liberty here since only C. Stand can guard, and JB can do the same thing but he cannot do that all throughout the game as it will result for him getting tired early.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on April 10, 2022, 07:58:42 AM

Meralco outlasted Ginebra in a tough battle. Good defense displayed by both teams but a lot of missed free throws by Ginebra players in Q3 was the turning point and allowed Meralco to comeback from 8-point deficit. There was also the offensive rebounds in the fourth which allowed Meralco to protect their lead.

I must admit that we should not underestimate Meralco right now, they rise from a deficit and was able to close the game. I just loss a bet because of this. Well, many are too confident about Ginebra but it looks like they are also struggling. Now Meralco takes the lead and this is a big game for them. On the other hand, Ginebra will surely bounce back it looks like to me now that there will be a game 7 for this finals, both teams are doing exceptional they both deserve to win the title.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 10, 2022, 08:53:12 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 10, 2022, 08:40:25 AM

I predicted right from the start that Ginebra will win in 6 games but I will not surprised now if this will go in 7 games. That would be better and a win-win situation for the audiences and the management as well

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You'll be more surprised if Meralco will win the series.

The way it's happening now, looks like Meralco is more dominant than the Gin Kings. You see, if JB would struggle, the entire roster will not be productive, and Meralco took advantage of that, also, Meralco's import is more confident now, I think this is the first time that he outperformed brownlee in an import to import duel.

I'm a Ginebra fan but by looking the way things are happening right now, it's Meralco who's taking the business right. They are not afraid and they are more eager competing against the BRGY. A lot of adjustment are needed for Ginebra here, they need to work together and move the ball. I still believe that coach Tim will adjust to this kind of hype the Meralco is playing right now.

They need to overpower and break that momentum. It would not just be surprising but also interesting if Meralco win this series, they all bring SMC down right? Tongue

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 10, 2022, 08:40:25 AM

I predicted right from the start that Ginebra will win in 6 games but I will not surprised now if this will go in 7 games. That would be better and a win-win situation for the audiences and the management as well

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You'll be more surprised if Meralco will win the series.

The way it's happening now, looks like Meralco is more dominant than the Gin Kings. You see, if JB would struggle, the entire roster will not be productive, and Meralco took advantage of that, also, Meralco's import is more confident now, I think this is the first time that he outperformed brownlee in an import to import duel.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 10, 2022, 08:16:29 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on April 10, 2022, 07:58:42 AM

Meralco outlasted Ginebra in a tough battle. Good defense displayed by both teams but a lot of missed free throws by Ginebra players in Q3 was the turning point and allowed Meralco to comeback from 8-point deficit. There was also the offensive rebounds in the fourth which allowed Meralco to protect their lead.

Brownlee only had 19 points, he was beaten by Bishop who scored 30 big points and 16 rebounds.

Also, the local players like Newsome had 20 points, while Maliksi is not anymore scoreless with 10 points.

Defense really is the key here why the Bolts got the victory.
After getting double digits in the first quarter, Brownlee can't score in the succeeding quarters and he only scored 19 points. Putting Hodge on him seems to be effective since he is the only one that can defend him. Maybe putting him in foul trouble would help the Ginebra but how can they do it is the question.

Meralco held Ginebra to scored only 13 points in both 3rd and 4th quarter. Meralco is one of the best defensive teams this season and even Magnolia had a hard time with their impenetrable defense. Maybe lets also add the fact that the Bolts are hungry right now to defeat this Ginebra team after getting defeated by them three times in PBA Finals that is why they are eager to get a revenge against them. Its a chess game so for sure Ginebra will make an adjustment with this loss.

I predicted right from the start that Ginebra will win in 6 games but I will not surprised now if this will go in 7 games. That would be better and a win-win situation for the audiences and the management as well

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on April 10, 2022, 07:58:42 AM

Meralco outlasted Ginebra in a tough battle. Good defense displayed by both teams but a lot of missed free throws by Ginebra players in Q3 was the turning point and allowed Meralco to comeback from 8-point deficit. There was also the offensive rebounds in the fourth which allowed Meralco to protect their lead.

Besides a lot free throws missed, I believe Brownlee didn't contribute that much on this game. He has only 38% FG while score 19pts which is very low to his average score when they are winning the match. I still don't want to conclude that Meralco got this since they can’t still defeat Ginebra when Brownlee is performing good. A couple of adjustment can make Ginebra comeback on this series.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 07:54:53 AM

Now that Meralco has the edge on this series, could we say that this could be Brownlee's first Finals lose?

It's too early to tell, maybe if Meralco will have a 3-1 lead then there's a high probability.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on April 10, 2022, 07:58:42 AM

Meralco outlasted Ginebra in a tough battle. Good defense displayed by both teams but a lot of missed free throws by Ginebra players in Q3 was the turning point and allowed Meralco to comeback from 8-point deficit. There was also the offensive rebounds in the fourth which allowed Meralco to protect their lead.

Brownlee only had 19 points, he was beaten by Bishop who scored 30 big points and 16 rebounds.

Also, the local players like Newsome had 20 points, while Maliksi is not anymore scoreless with 10 points.

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Meralco outlasted Ginebra in a tough battle. Good defense displayed by both teams but a lot of missed free throws by Ginebra players in Q3 was the turning point and allowed Meralco to comeback from 8-point deficit. There was also the offensive rebounds in the fourth which allowed Meralco to protect their lead.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 10, 2022, 06:48:51 AM

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Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

An intense first quarter with Ginebra taking the driver's seat 27-22, I think this will be a close game so your strategy of betting for the Bolts when Ginebra is leading might work in this game.

Brownlee is in a beast mode, hope he can sustain this until the end of the ball game.

Ginebra had a double digit lead but they finish with 8 points lead in the first half. We are now in the 2nd half and Meralco seemed to be coming back. I got Meralco +6.5 during the break, just in case they'll lose, at least I have an extra points to fight for.

Meralco won by 9 points, congrats on your win mate. Seems like this is the trend now in this series where Ginebra will lead by two-digit points and then Meralco will catch up in the second half so better to do live betting for Meralco with that high spread.

Now that Meralco has the edge on this series, could we say that this could be Brownlee's first Finals lose?

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Here we go again, Meralco Bolts after trailing for around 10-12 points, now finally got the lead.

Closing the halftime, Meralco managed to cut the lead to 8 points. 6 minutes later in the 3Q, they got the lead. Both teams also struggle in the 3 points area. Ginebra's seems to slow down after entering the 3rd. Coach Tim should just sit Standhardinger for the meantime. I like the rotation of Ginebra when Joe Davance instead is on the floor. My handicap is at risk. Cheesy

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 10, 2022, 06:48:51 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 06:04:00 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 10, 2022, 04:31:46 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 02:05:21 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

An intense first quarter with Ginebra taking the driver's seat 27-22, I think this will be a close game so your strategy of betting for the Bolts when Ginebra is leading might work in this game.

Brownlee is in a beast mode, hope he can sustain this until the end of the ball game.

Ginebra had a double digit lead but they finish with 8 points lead in the first half. We are now in the 2nd half and Meralco seemed to be coming back. I got Meralco +6.5 during the break, just in case they'll lose, at least I have an extra points to fight for.

Great timing, Meralco now is leading by 2 points, 58-56 is the current score.
The pregame line looks like a trap, I hope you guys did not fall for that, and of course, I could also be wrong, that's why I didn't place a bet on the winner of this game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 06:04:00 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 10, 2022, 04:31:46 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 02:05:21 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

An intense first quarter with Ginebra taking the driver's seat 27-22, I think this will be a close game so your strategy of betting for the Bolts when Ginebra is leading might work in this game.

Brownlee is in a beast mode, hope he can sustain this until the end of the ball game.

Ginebra had a double digit lead but they finish with 8 points lead in the first half. We are now in the 2nd half and Meralco seemed to be coming back. I got Meralco +6.5 during the break, just in case they'll lose, at least I have an extra points to fight for.

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I like this game, it's not like the game 2 where Ginebra takes the 1st half with a huge lead, Meralco seemed to be adjusting well and although they are down, at least they are not down big time. Still plenty of minutes to be played, may the best team wins, I think I'll go for Meralco this time, with the spread of course.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 06:04:00 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 10, 2022, 04:31:46 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 02:05:21 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

An intense first quarter with Ginebra taking the driver's seat 27-22, I think this will be a close game so your strategy of betting for the Bolts when Ginebra is leading might work in this game.

Brownlee is in a beast mode, hope he can sustain this until the end of the ball game.

As always, Brownlee remains to be in a beast mode because if he will not work hard, Ginebra will lose. Game 2 is very important, actually every game, and based on what I'm seeing now, Ginebra is having a good momentum and with the help of the fans, looks like they'll be taking the lead in the series after this game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 10, 2022, 04:31:46 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 02:05:21 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

An intense first quarter with Ginebra taking the driver's seat 27-22, I think this will be a close game so your strategy of betting for the Bolts when Ginebra is leading might work in this game.

Brownlee is in a beast mode, hope he can sustain this until the end of the ball game.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 10, 2022, 02:05:21 AM

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

I believe, the opening was -2.5, it was now down to -1.5.. Hmmm... I smell something fishy with this line movement, I don't know but I have a feeling that Meralco will win tonight, might as well take the live bet, I'm taking the Boltz if Ginebra will have an early good lead.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 09, 2022, 05:27:23 PM

Since today is Sunday, the venue might be sold out already and you will see a lot of Ginebra fans cheering for their team. Therefore, I believe that Ginebra will take the lead after the game tonight, but the next game will be Meralco which will even the series to make it a 2-2 series score. Actually, if Meralco will do a great job on Brownlee, their chance might increase because they are moving the ball well compared to the Ginebra IMO.

Hope your speculation will come true tonight as i'm putting my money on Ginebra for tonight's game. Maliksi was not scoring for the Bolts last game, that's a big loss for Meralco and I hope that Ginebra will put up a good defense on him because if he came out hot then that would be a problem for the Kings.

Ginebra -1.5 @1.84 vs Bolts, the handicap will increase as the game approaches like the last game so better bet now.

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Quote from: blockman on April 09, 2022, 05:18:46 PM

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Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

They are used to having a game 7, Ginebra is more experience because they have lots of veterans on their roster. Joe Devance is now activated to match up the size of Meralco and somehow he contributed. This is a chess game, every team will adjust every time they lose a game, and expect an adjustment coming from Meralco in game 3.

That is for sure because they're going to be in the tough scenario especially if they become tie at 3-3. I'm guessing that it's going to happen at that point because that's the usual thing in the finals.
Yeah, a chess game and each piece of them is going to play important role and it's also a mind game for their respective coaches. That's what it is all about then depending on the tactics and counters of them.

Since today is Sunday, the venue might be sold out already and you will see a lot of Ginebra fans cheering for their team. Therefore, I believe that Ginebra will take the lead after the game tonight, but the next game will be Meralco which will even the series to make it a 2-2 series score. Actually, if Meralco will do a great job on Brownlee, their chance might increase because they are moving the ball well compared to the Ginebra IMO.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 09, 2022, 04:14:27 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2022, 06:34:36 PM

Yes and that's the reason why I think that this is really going to be reaching the series up to game 7. Well, that's what probably most of us really want to happen.
The longer it is, the exciting for the fans. But for these teams, it's going to be more crucial and exhausting for them so it's not just going to be a physical match but also a mental game which is draining.

They are used to having a game 7, Ginebra is more experience because they have lots of veterans on their roster. Joe Devance is now activated to match up the size of Meralco and somehow he contributed. This is a chess game, every team will adjust every time they lose a game, and expect an adjustment coming from Meralco in game 3.

That is for sure because they're going to be in the tough scenario especially if they become tie at 3-3. I'm guessing that it's going to happen at that point because that's the usual thing in the finals.
Yeah, a chess game and each piece of them is going to play important role and it's also a mind game for their respective coaches. That's what it is all about then depending on the tactics and counters of them.

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