Topic: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 39. (Read 101873 times)

He's being grown by Converge's sister team through MPBL and gov, the owner of the team believes on him and that's why he has drafted to the PBA this year and Converge was the first pick and he'd sure be picked by them. I'm not sure if they're becoming another farm team but I think this season, they're rebuilding the team.

Maybe yes but Balti can't handle that pressure carrying alone the team? I'm in the impression that after acquiring him the chance that he'll be traded might happen,  I'm seeing converge as a another farm team don't get me wrong but they've got the talents before and have chance to be competitive,  but letting Teng and Ahanmisi who are both playing good for the team,

instead of building players to help them and become more competitive,  unlike the former Alaska who really did try their best to keep that name above, but let see if how they will perform in this upcoming season.

That's the advantage to RSA and MVP but let's see if Converge will be able to get par on them because they're also reforming their roster. Balti is on them and who knows if soon they'd also be able to hire Dwight Howard as their import but won't probably happen this season. The fans are really looking forward for something new to this although it's not about the 4 point shot but to the changes that we deserve to be excited of like seeing newer teams on the finals.

Yeah, it's easy for him to dump whatever team/s he want as he already got a lot and he's spending billions to maintain his teams though same with what you said, it's an edge to whatever team he will maintain, he can simply form a super team just like what he's doing right now what more if he only got 1 team maybe he will form a complete package composed of a national team.

He got the money and PBA management always favors him, it's the reality that fans and viewers really criticize the league but there's no action as the mangements are enjoying the luxury from him and also from MVP.

They care not for the PBA but to the people, the fans and their employees too. I think he's got a point and he can just simple dispose their teams there because he's got a lot in there. But the advantage is always on the teams that he's got there because the PBA management is so loose on them if it's about the trades. This is just what most of the fans don't like about them. 

Don't believe too much on those businessman, because if they truly care for the PBA, they should not form a monopoly inside. Ramon Ang works for SMC
But they have a lot of teams in the PBA, so spending 1 billion is just right as they continue to advertise their product. A big change is already due, but they aren't acting on it. Now they are saying they won't stop it even if they are losing money because the people will be mad. Unbelievable.

Because if they won't be on their side, the league is gonna be dead soon. Ramon S. Ang said that he's spending 1 billion pesos per year just to sustain the teams because if they'll be out of the league, the filipino fans are going to get mad at him.
But if I am him, I wouldn't spend that much anymore and let the competition be fair if he's for the people. However, he knows that the PBA itself is favoring them so, he's nonstop throwing money to the league. I don't want to see the league dead soon but it's all about being fair.

It will compromise the edge of these two giant companies,  and PBA management is more on the side of favoring both SMC and MVP they would not do anything against them, though if they really want to go above again they need to add more teams who can produce competitive squad that can give good competition against sister companies who are dominating the league,  from that point of view,  they might attract the attention of the fans and will able to earn the supports both online and tickets attendance.

No contest about that MPBL is just second to PBA and it remains to be the most sought basketball league in our country. But if it's a comparison in Asia, I don't think that it's going to make it to the top. What PBA should do is to allow new teams to come. It's not easy to maintain a team and they know that another rich corporation is gonna take over that team and manage it. But what they're doing is not allowing it because the reigning of these sister companies and teams will be at stake.

That includes the TV5 and Cignal TV, that's why it's possible.

You are probably just watching from random Facebook streamers, but if you watch from their official Facebook channel, you can see that there are a lot of viewers tuning in, even though it's quite delayed compared to what we can see on TV.

I can confirm that because I always bet on the PBA games, so I am always looking for free live streaming.

Nah, they're just lying to themselves. He feel that the fans are dumb enough to believe on his statement, but we know the truth.
We know what's happening with the league. We know that 1 Million viewers per game isn't possible.

I've tried to watch PBA games online as well since we are living on a province. When the game isn't either MVP or SMC, the average number of viewers on Facebook is at around 2K at most. When it's either one of them, the average is around 5K maybe. If the game is between SMB and Ginebra, 10K might be the max. It's nowhere what Commissioner said that it's reaching 1M per game. He's lying obviously, and nobody wants to watch PBA games anymore (at least on person). That's the problem right now. People don't want to go anymore to the venue because they find the games boring because of lack of competition around the league, and because of that, their revenues are greatly affected.

Gone are the days where fans will just go there, and support their teams. Gone are the days where the arena is full even though it isn't playoffs. Gone are the days where teams are battling for the championship and gone are the days where we who are watching don't even know which team will win because of how balanced it is. As a PBA fan, this is truly heartbreaking.

True, the PBA is still the popular league in the Philippines as it has the backing of large corporation. Shifting PBA to the format of the MPBL will require lots of money and this maybe the reason why PBA have not adapted to the home and away format of the MPBL, logistics issue.

MBA has done it but due to financial constraint they failed to sustain their operation.

Although I believe that the MPBL is a good league, the PBA is still the most popular professional basketball league in the Philippines. Who can beat the PBA, which is run by the richest people in the Philippines? However, if they make a good move, like partnering with the MPBL to create one league, we would likely have a very competitive league that could compete with other leagues in Asia. The MPBL is good, but they lack exposure. The PBA could make that happen, perhaps by bringing the name PBA but adopting the same setup as the MPBL.

It's been so long that the PBA has been full of bashing and yet the higher ups don't have any feeling. That's fine, they're not on the loss on it but the teams.
SMC and MVP teams are just too generous for it and that's why they are just tolerating what's happening there. The real competition was gone and when Alaska got out, that's already one sign.
Good thing that there are other leagues already in the country that can be also said as a professional league. PBA is still a top notch but those talents that aren't discovered can play there.

I agree, but big changes like that needs always needs the approval of these two giant companies who have that control behind the decision making of the league managements, even there are many criticizm that already been brought out it's just simply being ignored as whatevr happened the managements still getting the money that they need just not sure how big is the favor behind the taxable benefits, more on the benefits and the favor that's why the reputation of the league and those people behind are already been compromised.

Hopefully they'll find ways to change something that will bring back the interest of most fans, not that just a funny 4point lane but a serious change that will bring decent competitions from each teams that involves.

I think it's happening in other leagues as well, but in the PBA, it's very obvious. That's why people keep criticizing the league, and yet they take no action about this. This would only prove that the management responsible for making changes is under the influence of the top teams' owners, who only follow what they are told to do.

If this setup were like the NBA, which I think the MPBL has followed, then most likely it would be growing, and changes would be made in a timely manner for the good of the league. However, as we all know based on the names of the teams, they are endorsing a product, so they play to make the product popular, and they are paid for that.

There's no doubt with that, there's always under the table that the commissioners who are approving the trades has something to do with it.
You're right, that they might be puppets of SMC and MVPs and that's why most of the good picks and trades are happening in them. Whilst for the other teams, they're just like trees and waiting for the good players to be harvested by these two. This is always the cycle, this has been happening for so many years and I was even young at that time then I am tired of seeing either MVP and SMC always at the finals.

Yeah right, it's just for claiming but converting that numbers into sales for sure fans are no longer that excited unless it's the Brgy that having the game though not that much but still got the numbers of support a loyal fans who really love seeing players and team who making their ways to keep that bond for the fans and viewers that keep the franchise as the number 1 fan base squad.

Yeah most of those online viewers use illegal streaming just being okay to watch or to monitor scores but not really paying attentions
more on the gambling side to monitor their bets.

If they could just revamp everything give good salaries then make PBA environment became more fair for each team then provably the interest of people will go back. But its like this scenario that we want to happen seems like impossible to come since this league has been manipulated by big companies in Philippines. I also guess salary is not only the goal of the young players to go abroad but also the level of competitiveness is different since they can enhance their skills than in PBA which most likely they sit only sit on Bench and they might show case their talents there.



Compare before they didn't do much unfair movements since maybe they cannot pass on past commissioners. But right now its like they installed their own workers and let those big teams to do what they want. We cannot expect anything bigger from them since they always made up crazy decision.

This 4-point shot has pros and cons based on one video that I've watched on Facebook.

One pro is that, no lead is safe... or I should say that anybody can just evaporate the lead quicker than we are seeing because of this implementation. I mean instead of only 9 points when the team shot 3 3-point shots, it will be 12 points, and we know how important a point is especially in close games. A point can separate both teams.

One con is that, we are getting away from FIBA. FIBA didn't even think of implementing this 4-point shot, and the PBA already did it? Even the PBA legends are against this one, and even Coach Tim Cone. Another con that I saw (based on the video I watched) is that, the game will be more boring because more and more shooters will opt to shoot for the 4-point area instead of 3, and since it's very far away, there might be more airball shots than going in. The game itself is boring already, now they're adding another one.

Quite ironic that they want PBA to be the top sports entertainment in Asia but they don't know how to stop SMC and MVP to milk other teams and getting their top trades.
They've been criticized, and as long as they will not make any significant changes with regards to the teams, the balance and the competition, I JUST HOPE THAT MORE PBA PLAYERS WILL PLAY OVERSEAS AND MAKE THE LEAGUE OUT THERE MORE POPULAR.

I do really hope that more and more young and talented players will opt to play overseas because PBA is just a boring league. Many especially those die hard PBA fans here might not agree with me, and I understand, but you know that the league is becoming more and more boring because of unbalanced trades, farming teams, etc. etc.