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Quote from: goaldigger on June 29, 2024, 02:46:49 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 29, 2024, 02:11:33 PM

They gave it all and almost upset Poland, just fell short of time but it really an interesting game for PH Nationals, the adjustments are working for them and the rotation gives them the game play that they needed, hopefully they will continue to developed and bring this type of game system in an actual game for the qualifying match.

That was a good match actually and of course that can help boost the morale of the team. I can see the coaching staff is working very hard right now to meet the expectation of the Filipinos. We all know how big deal the basketball is in our country, and I just hope that we support them more instead of bashing them. Let’s hope that those tune up games will pay off.

Gilas is really something now, they're really great and to think that Poland has a high ranking, that means we can really compete.

82-80, just a 2 point win by Poland, I guess some might have expected this will be a blowout win for the Poland, but the Philippines surprised them.
I'm wondering what was the betting spread for this game, I'm sure fans for the Gilas have won the handicap,, this one was really intense and easy money for the bettors of Gilas. Congratulations to us for this strong effort, despite the loss.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 29, 2024, 02:11:33 PM

They gave it all and almost upset Poland, just fell short of time but it really an interesting game for PH Nationals, the adjustments are working for them and the rotation gives them the game play that they needed, hopefully they will continue to developed and bring this type of game system in an actual game for the qualifying match.

That was a good match actually and of course that can help boost the morale of the team. I can see the coaching staff is working very hard right now to meet the expectation of the Filipinos. We all know how big deal the basketball is in our country, and I just hope that we support them more instead of bashing them. Let’s hope that those tune up games will pay off.

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Quote from: blockman on June 29, 2024, 02:11:02 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 11:07:39 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 28, 2024, 02:47:53 PM

I agree, this is better than what we're expecting and as this tune up game really will help the Gilas to experience further and more adjustments to come before the actual Olympic qualifying games. The roster is perfect and if there are negative comments from the fans, just don't be distracted with that. The team, the coaching staff and the players are all doing their best and they're actually doing a good job, they are there to win and they want it badly just as how we fans and kababayans want it.

This is indeed the reality, more than the fans, it's the players and the managements who wanted to win badly, they are playing to make the country proud, and with what we are witnessing right now, they are in the right directions just some adjustments that needed in terms of defense especially those big man who are playing outside that adjustments is really needed to fill out, we need those young stars to use their speed to rotate they need cover those defense if ever JMF or Kai has been outrun those young star like KQ or KT both have the height who can give that tight defense for those outside shots.

Our shooters need to be sharp and for the defense, they need to attend to that because it's known that most teams have got their best shooters. Or a harder opponent is that most of their players can shoot outside. And with that, they need to take note of that which is surely on their books already, just a good rotation and can't deny that this version of Gilas is doing it. <3

Yup, and they show it up very close game against Poland almost a win but fell short of time only 2 points but PH National give a hard fought and for sure Poland got surprise with how the Nationals take the challenge, a very close game and an almost a blowout but that last minute rally really give some hope lucky for those bettors as if I heard it right handicap is +12.5 or more not really sure.

Quote from: Maslate on June 29, 2024, 06:57:58 AM

So the Philippines will have their last tune-up game against Poland, which is ranked number 15 in the FIBA world rankings and considered a stronger team than Turkey. If Gilas has learned from their previous game, they should perform better this time. If they can make it a close and interesting game, I believe their chances against Georgia and Latvia will be promising.

So the game will be tomorrow but in order to be able to watch it, we need to be awake by ;

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Sunday, 12 midnight Philippine time

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They gave it all and almost upset Poland, just fell short of time but it really an interesting game for PH Nationals, the adjustments are working for them and the rotation gives them the game play that they needed, hopefully they will continue to developed and bring this type of game system in an actual game for the qualifying match.

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So the Philippines will have their last tune-up game against Poland, which is ranked number 15 in the FIBA world rankings and considered a stronger team than Turkey. If Gilas has learned from their previous game, they should perform better this time. If they can make it a close and interesting game, I believe their chances against Georgia and Latvia will be promising.

So the game will be tomorrow but in order to be able to watch it, we need to be awake by ;

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Sunday, 12 midnight Philippine time

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 11:07:39 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 28, 2024, 02:47:53 PM

I agree, this is better than what we're expecting and as this tune up game really will help the Gilas to experience further and more adjustments to come before the actual Olympic qualifying games. The roster is perfect and if there are negative comments from the fans, just don't be distracted with that. The team, the coaching staff and the players are all doing their best and they're actually doing a good job, they are there to win and they want it badly just as how we fans and kababayans want it.

This is indeed the reality, more than the fans, it's the players and the managements who wanted to win badly, they are playing to make the country proud, and with what we are witnessing right now, they are in the right directions just some adjustments that needed in terms of defense especially those big man who are playing outside that adjustments is really needed to fill out, we need those young stars to use their speed to rotate they need cover those defense if ever JMF or Kai has been outrun those young star like KQ or KT both have the height who can give that tight defense for those outside shots.

Our shooters need to be sharp and for the defense, they need to attend to that because it's known that most teams have got their best shooters. Or a harder opponent is that most of their players can shoot outside. And with that, they need to take note of that which is surely on their books already, just a good rotation and can't deny that this version of Gilas is doing it. <3

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Quote from: blockman on June 28, 2024, 02:47:53 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 06:01:51 AM

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They've lost against Turkey but I can say that they're able to against them in a hand to hand from most of the quarters not until 4th quarter. The Gilas is doing fine and the next one will be up against Poland. I think that we're getting a positive sentiment with our Gilas roster, they just need to be more prepared for guarding on the three point lines as most of the EU teams have got a lot of shooters and they don't play inside a lot since this is the kind of basketball they play.

With that experienced against Turkey I'm sure adjustments in playing good defense outside will be noted, like what you said EU basketball type of game is more on outside as even the big man are shooting outside, if not for those converted 3's it might be much closer or possible an upset take place, just not for team PH as Turkey manage to pullover in the last few minutes of the game.

But, for me it's good to see our big man really pushing their ways inside looking for mismatch and take the shots without fearing being block.

I agree, this is better than what we're expecting and as this tune up game really will help the Gilas to experience further and more adjustments to come before the actual Olympic qualifying games. The roster is perfect and if there are negative comments from the fans, just don't be distracted with that. The team, the coaching staff and the players are all doing their best and they're actually doing a good job, they are there to win and they want it badly just as how we fans and kababayans want it.

This is indeed the reality, more than the fans, it's the players and the managements who wanted to win badly, they are playing to make the country proud, and with what we are witnessing right now, they are in the right directions just some adjustments that needed in terms of defense especially those big man who are playing outside that adjustments is really needed to fill out, we need those young stars to use their speed to rotate they need cover those defense if ever JMF or Kai has been outrun those young star like KQ or KT both have the height who can give that tight defense for those outside shots.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 06:01:51 AM

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They've lost against Turkey but I can say that they're able to against them in a hand to hand from most of the quarters not until 4th quarter. The Gilas is doing fine and the next one will be up against Poland. I think that we're getting a positive sentiment with our Gilas roster, they just need to be more prepared for guarding on the three point lines as most of the EU teams have got a lot of shooters and they don't play inside a lot since this is the kind of basketball they play.

With that experienced against Turkey I'm sure adjustments in playing good defense outside will be noted, like what you said EU basketball type of game is more on outside as even the big man are shooting outside, if not for those converted 3's it might be much closer or possible an upset take place, just not for team PH as Turkey manage to pullover in the last few minutes of the game.

But, for me it's good to see our big man really pushing their ways inside looking for mismatch and take the shots without fearing being block.

I agree, this is better than what we're expecting and as this tune up game really will help the Gilas to experience further and more adjustments to come before the actual Olympic qualifying games. The roster is perfect and if there are negative comments from the fans, just don't be distracted with that. The team, the coaching staff and the players are all doing their best and they're actually doing a good job, they are there to win and they want it badly just as how we fans and kababayans want it.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 28, 2024, 07:40:34 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 06:01:51 AM

But, for me it's good to see our big man really pushing their ways inside looking for mismatch and take the shots without fearing being block.

JMF showed he can compete with the big man. During the FIBA world cup, he even compete with KAT, how much more these guys who are just tall but not as big as KAT.

Indeed and he keeps improving with what we witnesss during that game against Turkey he shows great movements inside, in our term " Nakikipagkaldagan" which is really effective just like you mentioned he already deal with it competing against a NBA star and now he will be playing against those bigs for sure it will be a great experience for him and Kai as PH team will rely to both of them inside.

Just need to add more confidence outside as players from EU are more on outside shooting we need to adopt and adjust.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 06:01:51 AM

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Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2024, 05:53:03 PM

You watched this tune up game?

Gilas Pilipinas loses to Turkey in well-fought Istanbul friendly

https://www.fiba.basketball/rankingmen
Turkey is ranked 24, 1 lower than Georgia, so this already is a good test on our chance against Georgia. Although we lose but it was a well fought game because we weren't dominated that much. Still a good job by our team, hopefully they'll improve and correct their lapses in that game. I'm just gonna watch the highlights now as that game was too early.

They've lost against Turkey but I can say that they're able to against them in a hand to hand from most of the quarters not until 4th quarter. The Gilas is doing fine and the next one will be up against Poland. I think that we're getting a positive sentiment with our Gilas roster, they just need to be more prepared for guarding on the three point lines as most of the EU teams have got a lot of shooters and they don't play inside a lot since this is the kind of basketball they play.

With that experienced against Turkey I'm sure adjustments in playing good defense outside will be noted, like what you said EU basketball type of game is more on outside as even the big man are shooting outside, if not for those converted 3's it might be much closer or possible an upset take place, just not for team PH as Turkey manage to pullover in the last few minutes of the game.

Yes, they made their shots from the outside, which was key to their win. It's rare to see a bigger team not attacking the paint to take advantage of their size edge. However, as you've mentioned, the game has changed now as even big men know how to shoot from outside, and they wouldn't use that strategy if they weren't confident in their shooting. I think more pressure defense is needed next time. They should rotate faster when there's a switch to better defend against outside shooters.

Quote from: Fredomago on June 28, 2024, 06:01:51 AM

But, for me it's good to see our big man really pushing their ways inside looking for mismatch and take the shots without fearing being block.

JMF showed he can compete with the big man. During the FIBA world cup, he even compete with KAT, how much more these guys who are just tall but not as big as KAT.

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Quote from: blockman on June 28, 2024, 05:23:50 AM

Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2024, 05:53:03 PM

You watched this tune up game?

Gilas Pilipinas loses to Turkey in well-fought Istanbul friendly

https://www.fiba.basketball/rankingmen
Turkey is ranked 24, 1 lower than Georgia, so this already is a good test on our chance against Georgia. Although we lose but it was a well fought game because we weren't dominated that much. Still a good job by our team, hopefully they'll improve and correct their lapses in that game. I'm just gonna watch the highlights now as that game was too early.

They've lost against Turkey but I can say that they're able to against them in a hand to hand from most of the quarters not until 4th quarter. The Gilas is doing fine and the next one will be up against Poland. I think that we're getting a positive sentiment with our Gilas roster, they just need to be more prepared for guarding on the three point lines as most of the EU teams have got a lot of shooters and they don't play inside a lot since this is the kind of basketball they play.

With that experienced against Turkey I'm sure adjustments in playing good defense outside will be noted, like what you said EU basketball type of game is more on outside as even the big man are shooting outside, if not for those converted 3's it might be much closer or possible an upset take place, just not for team PH as Turkey manage to pullover in the last few minutes of the game.

But, for me it's good to see our big man really pushing their ways inside looking for mismatch and take the shots without fearing being block.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2024, 05:53:03 PM

You watched this tune up game?

Gilas Pilipinas loses to Turkey in well-fought Istanbul friendly

https://www.fiba.basketball/rankingmen
Turkey is ranked 24, 1 lower than Georgia, so this already is a good test on our chance against Georgia. Although we lose but it was a well fought game because we weren't dominated that much. Still a good job by our team, hopefully they'll improve and correct their lapses in that game. I'm just gonna watch the highlights now as that game was too early.

They've lost against Turkey but I can say that they're able to against them in a hand to hand from most of the quarters not until 4th quarter. The Gilas is doing fine and the next one will be up against Poland. I think that we're getting a positive sentiment with our Gilas roster, they just need to be more prepared for guarding on the three point lines as most of the EU teams have got a lot of shooters and they don't play inside a lot since this is the kind of basketball they play.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 28, 2024, 02:49:31 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on June 27, 2024, 09:43:53 PM

Watch only the highlights of that friendly game against Turkey and you were right, that was a well fought game by our Gilas team as it was a competitive game until the fourth quarter. It was surprising for me that Junemar Fajardo scored 17 points in that game while Kai Sotto which i expected to score more was limited to just a single digit points. Though i expect them to lose against Latvia but i hope they will fight like they did against Turkey.

Is there any site where we can see the box score? Like you, I wasn't able to watch the game, but I'm interested in seeing who among the players in Gilas contributed well. Thanks for bringing up JMF; that guy has really improved. He developed his shooting, so it's not a surprise that he scored 17 points. Maybe he was the top scorer?

I saw Brownlee played well too, so I guess they are alright. At least against a strong team, we were able to compete, but we just fell into problems in the 4th quarter because of our defense. Turkey has been shooting pretty well outside, so that's the big difference. But you can always be impressed with the effort of the Philippines in defense against a taller team.

This is just a tune-up game, so it will be different in the actual games because this Turkey team does not have their complete roster. We all know they have NBA players. If they played, it could have been a blowout win for them.

Our team is good, but it's really hard for them to be competitive against European teams. Hopefully, they'll consider adding a Brownlee-like player. I'm not sure if it's possible, but I read a rumor that if Clarkson, Green, and Brownlee played together, this would be a hell of a team.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 27, 2024, 09:43:53 PM

Watch only the highlights of that friendly game against Turkey and you were right, that was a well fought game by our Gilas team as it was a competitive game until the fourth quarter. It was surprising for me that Junemar Fajardo scored 17 points in that game while Kai Sotto which i expected to score more was limited to just a single digit points. Though i expect them to lose against Latvia but i hope they will fight like they did against Turkey.

Is there any site where we can see the box score? Like you, I wasn't able to watch the game, but I'm interested in seeing who among the players in Gilas contributed well. Thanks for bringing up JMF; that guy has really improved. He developed his shooting, so it's not a surprise that he scored 17 points. Maybe he was the top scorer?

I saw Brownlee played well too, so I guess they are alright. At least against a strong team, we were able to compete, but we just fell into problems in the 4th quarter because of our defense. Turkey has been shooting pretty well outside, so that's the big difference. But you can always be impressed with the effort of the Philippines in defense against a taller team.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 27, 2024, 09:43:53 PM

Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2024, 05:53:03 PM

You watched this tune up game?

Gilas Pilipinas loses to Turkey in well-fought Istanbul friendly

https://www.fiba.basketball/rankingmen
Turkey is ranked 24, 1 lower than Georgia, so this already is a good test on our chance against Georgia. Although we lose but it was a well fought game because we weren't dominated that much. Still a good job by our team, hopefully they'll improve and correct their lapses in that game. I'm just gonna watch the highlights now as that game was too early.

Watch only the highlights of that friendly game against Turkey and you were right, that was a well fought game by our Gilas team as it was a competitive game until the fourth quarter. It was surprising for me that Junemar Fajardo scored 17 points in that game while Kai Sotto which i expected to score more was limited to just a single digit points.

Kai Sotto was only limited because he was in foul trouble, but Kai is not as smart as JMF so we can't really so much from him in terms of points. That was really a good game considering how good Turkey is, and I think we can just continue to bet on the handicap if we want to win. As what my friend shared to me, the handicap was +11.5, which means Gilas were able to cover it.

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Though i expect them to lose against Latvia but i hope they will fight like they did against Turkey.

We have a better chance with Georgia, but a slim chance with Latvia.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2024, 05:53:03 PM

You watched this tune up game?

Gilas Pilipinas loses to Turkey in well-fought Istanbul friendly

https://www.fiba.basketball/rankingmen
Turkey is ranked 24, 1 lower than Georgia, so this already is a good test on our chance against Georgia. Although we lose but it was a well fought game because we weren't dominated that much. Still a good job by our team, hopefully they'll improve and correct their lapses in that game. I'm just gonna watch the highlights now as that game was too early.

Watch only the highlights of that friendly game against Turkey and you were right, that was a well fought game by our Gilas team as it was a competitive game until the fourth quarter. It was surprising for me that Junemar Fajardo scored 17 points in that game while Kai Sotto which i expected to score more was limited to just a single digit points. Though i expect them to lose against Latvia but i hope they will fight like they did against Turkey.

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You watched this tune up game?

Gilas Pilipinas loses to Turkey in well-fought Istanbul friendly

https://www.fiba.basketball/rankingmen
Turkey is ranked 24, 1 lower than Georgia, so this already is a good test on our chance against Georgia. Although we lose but it was a well fought game because we weren't dominated that much. Still a good job by our team, hopefully they'll improve and correct their lapses in that game. I'm just gonna watch the highlights now as that game was too early.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 26, 2024, 06:11:18 PM

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They will for sure going to give an underdog odds for our national team. It's because that the other national teams are way bigger and have got more known and notable players on their roster. But as we always believe for our national team, this is where the puso comes in.
And we've seen how they're able to upset China with the help of Brownlee. I hope that this team that we're proud of will qualify to the Olympics although in our minds that it's unlikely.

And that's where puso will demonstrate, with the handwork that those players and coaches bringing in the table for sure we will see them competing with all they've got, though it's a tough assignment but fans will surely support the team, as long as they are playing as one the intention is to make the country proud, there's no one aside from those bashers who we can't control 😉 that might seeing negative things about this formed squad but for fans like me I will expect something from the team, hopefully they will be able to make a remarkable games competing with those known superstars.

There's no doubt that our players are hardworking and great talented athletes. I'm currently watching the game and it's already on the 2nd quarter.
The game is very close with 7 minutes remaining, score of Turkey 26, Gilas Pilipinas 28. I hope that they win against Turkey.

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Converge FiberXers eyeing to tap former NBA Player Montrezl Harrell this coming Governors Cup conference as reinforcement.

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What do you think about this rumor? I think it will be so entertaining to watch with the monster Harrell be playing in the PBA this coming governors cup. I wonder how JMF would be able to stop him. Getting NBA players might help the league to gain interest from the viewers, so they should get some ex NBA players even if it's a bit costly.

While that is still a rumor, I won't be doubting Converge's financial capacity to hire him.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 27, 2024, 04:22:09 AM

Is this for real?

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‼️BREAKING‼️

Converge FiberXers eyeing to tap former NBA Player Montrezl Harrell this coming Governors Cup conference as reinforcement.

Source: PBA Insider News

What do you think about this rumor? I think it will be so entertaining to watch with the monster Harrell be playing in the PBA this coming governors cup. I wonder how JMF would be able to stop him. Getting NBA players might help the league to gain interest from the viewers, so they should get some ex NBA players even if it's a bit costly.

Howard is the one who create that noise showing interest playing inside PBA, not sure how reliable is that news but yup, if that move from converse will manifest I surely believe that it will gain interest from the fans, though that level of competition will create new impact with how team owners will produce their own reinforcements.

Though with that kind of actions, I guess both MVP and SMC will not let their team be an underdog as they've got the resources to pay a quality reinforcement making their teams more competitives.

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‼️BREAKING‼️

Converge FiberXers eyeing to tap former NBA Player Montrezl Harrell this coming Governors Cup conference as reinforcement.

Source: PBA Insider News

What do you think about this rumor? I think it will be so entertaining to watch with the monster Harrell be playing in the PBA this coming governors cup. I wonder how JMF would be able to stop him. Getting NBA players might help the league to gain interest from the viewers, so they should get some ex NBA players even if it's a bit costly.

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Quote from: blockman on June 26, 2024, 06:03:00 PM

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As per winning chance, I do agree that our Nationals is the underdog but for sure they can give something decent in terms of competitiveness, with how they perform and how the system is being executed I guess we might bring pull an upset here hahaha, hoping and crossing my fingers for the National, JBL and the rest of the team PH will need to play harder, also, a good venue for our young stars to earn the attentions of the international fans.

I also eyeing for bookies to bring that odds I would be glad throwing some spares for team PH either handicap if available or ML.

They will for sure going to give an underdog odds for our national team. It's because that the other national teams are way bigger and have got more known and notable players on their roster. But as we always believe for our national team, this is where the puso comes in.
And we've seen how they're able to upset China with the help of Brownlee. I hope that this team that we're proud of will qualify to the Olympics although in our minds that it's unlikely.

And that's where puso will demonstrate, with the handwork that those players and coaches bringing in the table for sure we will see them competing with all they've got, though it's a tough assignment but fans will surely support the team, as long as they are playing as one the intention is to make the country proud, there's no one aside from those bashers who we can't control 😉 that might seeing negative things about this formed squad but for fans like me I will expect something from the team, hopefully they will be able to make a remarkable games competing with those known superstars.

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