2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 393.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 26, 2022, 04:10:55 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 26, 2022, 03:51:42 PM

NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue

We will know in the elimination, most likely the NLEX will get a twice-to-beat advantage, and against a lower seed team, they will probably succeed. The rule of the import in this conference is very vital, and NLEX are lucky to have a great import that could compete with the best import like Brownlee.

Big factor is the import and that's why I mentioned the Gin kings because of their familiarities together, Brownlee is capable to bring them back to the finals, but it's too early to conclude there are many competitive teams that both NLEX and Gin kings need to beat before they can climb and compete for the title series.

I want them if possible to face each other, Pangilinan and Cojuangco Grin

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 26, 2022, 04:52:12 PM

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I'm not sure about the conflict but I think there's none. What I'm thinking is that, are they worried about the rise of different leagues in our country? MPBL has already been said as a pro-league. What if the others will follow too? Where are the PBA players are going? if not with B League then for sure they're coming after for these rising leagues. And knowing that these new rising leagues has professional players too that came from PBA, they have a backup that these leagues would be also big someday.

The time will come that PBA will have a tough competitor and with good competition in the market, I expect that the PBA will improve and maybe they'll start accepting new teams to be part of the league, that would be better for better competition and the season will take longer than the current set up.

But it seems that they're not doing something about it and by the way they're planning things, they might just realize it when fans are jumping over the other leagues.
I guess when the pandemic's done or neutralized, these leagues are going to do something aggressive with their marketing to let the basketball fans that there are other leagues that exist. One problem in PBA, is they are not allowing new teams and franchises to get in even if a lot of teams have applied for.

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Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2022, 04:26:25 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on January 26, 2022, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2022, 11:39:01 AM

Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..

I'm not sure about the conflict but I think there's none. What I'm thinking is that, are they worried about the rise of different leagues in our country? MPBL has already been said as a pro-league. What if the others will follow too? Where are the PBA players are going? if not with B League then for sure they're coming after for these rising leagues. And knowing that these new rising leagues has professional players too that came from PBA, they have a backup that these leagues would be also big someday.

The time will come that PBA will have a tough competitor and with good competition in the market, I expect that the PBA will improve and maybe they'll start accepting new teams to be part of the league, that would be better for better competition and the season will take longer than the current set up.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 26, 2022, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2022, 11:39:01 AM

Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..

I'm not sure about the conflict but I think there's none. What I'm thinking is that, are they worried about the rise of different leagues in our country? MPBL has already been said as a pro-league. What if the others will follow too? Where are the PBA players are going? if not with B League then for sure they're coming after for these rising leagues. And knowing that these new rising leagues has professional players too that came from PBA, they have a backup that these leagues would be also big someday.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 26, 2022, 03:51:42 PM

NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue

We will know in the elimination, most likely the NLEX will get a twice-to-beat advantage, and against a lower seed team, they will probably succeed. The rule of the import in this conference is very vital, and NLEX are lucky to have a great import that could compete with the best import like Brownlee.

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Quote from: Johnyz on January 25, 2022, 03:49:03 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on January 25, 2022, 02:54:52 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 24, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.

They needed to have that practices too, but main gunners are the priorities for now, it's just more than a week and we will see PBA
back in action. With the preparations coming from all the teams, we will expect some new playing styles, though it's not the same
as the last time due to this omicron, but knowing that they are back and resume, the games are more than okay.

NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 26, 2022, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2022, 11:39:01 AM

Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..

That's not a problem as long as there's no conflict. More league is better as it gives a lot of opportunities for our talent to grow, we know that PBA has very big requirements in order to qualify in the PBA draft, with small leagues now, if you have the skills and talent, you can play and can be popular.

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Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2022, 11:39:01 AM

Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..

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Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

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Quote from: Johnyz on January 25, 2022, 03:49:03 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on January 25, 2022, 02:54:52 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 24, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.

I think you are right about the main players having more exposure to the practice. Because they are kind of the backbone of a team. But the other players also should be given practice. Because as you said if things don't go exactly as planned they might come in handy. And there are some great players who work really long hours to get ready but that's another story.

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 25, 2022, 02:54:52 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 24, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 25, 2022, 02:54:52 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 24, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

Enough to set a play and have an imaginary defense, better than nothing right? they need to live this way while

the game still pending, but the good thing here is there's already a said date for the resume and we will see our favorite team and

players to entertain us once again, not to forget the betting side is what most of us here are waiting Wink

10 more days and everything

will be roll again...

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 25, 2022, 02:54:52 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 24, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

Well, at least having a practice with limited number of players is better than no practices at all.

Is that 5 players per day? If that's the case then they can just make a schedule of practices and just make a 2v2 practice plus their import maybe. 10 days worth of practice before the games resume so in short its true that the league will resume at the first week of February then. That's good and I don't think that the PBA can afford to suspend more than one month because they will loss a lot of money if they will extend it longer.

With regards to practices, you might see me bias with this part but I think the team needs to prioritize the imports in practices because the team will rely much on them but I'm not saying that their imports will do all of their jobs. Its just that most of the time the team is relying on them so in short if 5 players only are allowed to play then it must be the Import plus 4 players base on the schedule

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 24, 2022, 06:59:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 24, 2022, 10:51:38 AM

Quote from: mirakal on January 24, 2022, 07:26:42 AM

Imports do not have to wait for too long before they can resume. Knowing that the teams are already allowed to start their practice is a good sign that soon enough the PBA will resume. NLEX had a good start, hopefully, their momentum will not be gone due to this long break.

Let me refresh you guys with the current standing.

Their record is 4-1
https://pba.ph/standings

Practices will allow them to be more familiar with those set plays. It's good to know that they are now allowing players to do the drill,

NLEX is doing great, but like every other team, they can use this long break to create new strategy and make good adjustments from their

last performances. We are still in the early rounds and once PBA resume, we will see which team will excel and start to rally.

Betting will be open again and each of us can share our predictions and thoughts with those upcoming games.. Wink

If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Scrimmages is also now allowed? I don't think so unless those will be held on areas under Alert Level 2 at minimum.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 24, 2022, 04:02:58 AM

The game will proceed, we are waiting for announcement and soon it will resume back. Roll Eyes

I just can't remember where i read it but i'm pretty sure that the PBA will be back in action on the first week of February as it gets the unanimous nods from the board of Governors to resume the games, in fact the IATF has allowed team scrimmages this week.

Besides, covid cases in the NCR is dropping and health experts have predicted that things will be back to the pre-omicron status by March so we can expect crowd to be back in the arena this March or April.

But if the same number will stay next month, IATF should still allow PBA to operate even in a semi-bubble format.

What matters here is, all those confirmed cases are not severe. It's just like a normal flu to anyone know not unless there's a serious medical condition.

Imports will not stay here for long waiting for the resume. We don't like to see a Governors Cup without imports playing.

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Quote from: crzy on January 24, 2022, 04:16:31 PM

PBA should always have a back up plan to avoid any delays since we’ve been inti this situation for 2 years now, i assumed they already know how to handle this. They should continue and keep working to finish the conference, they are losing money though since the pandemic started but they can’t stop this better to adopt it and work necessarily. Staying safe is a big challenge for everyone, but life must go on.

PBA always has a plan but they can't just execute it right awaybecause there are lots of approvals they need.

- First, on IATF and GAB (although the latter already approved PBA to allow the resume)

- Second, on LGU (lots of considerations if the venue will be in province)

- Third, the hassle process of conducting a bubble operation.

Moving forward, it's good to see that they are now targeting next month, regardless of the situation, to commence the Governor's Cup.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 24, 2022, 10:38:29 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on January 24, 2022, 10:22:30 AM

Doesn't sound a rumor because that article was released by the PBA management itself and published by the Manila Bulletin, so it's quite safe to assume that this is a confirmed information that's likely to happen next month. Sadly, this event isn't open to public yet but yeah as soon as they will announce the games, we can also resume betting. Hopefully, there's no more setbacks this time around.

The Betting side can be done online and we can view the games as well, it will harm the PBA in terms of money making but they don't have any option, resuming is the only thing to get something from sponsors, we can only hope for the league to resume and see what would be the fate of this league if the virus continue to penetrate or country..

All we can do for now is to live with it and do our best to avoid being infected.

PBA should always have a back up plan to avoid any delays since we’ve been inti this situation for 2 years now, i assumed they already know how to handle this. They should continue and keep working to finish the conference, they are losing money though since the pandemic started but they can’t stop this better to adopt it and work necessarily. Staying safe is a big challenge for everyone, but life must go on.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 24, 2022, 04:02:58 AM

Quote from: blockman on January 23, 2022, 04:55:57 PM

We're slow in dealing with it and that's why the index made by Bloomberg ranks us the last but we eventually got up 3 positions AFAIK. I guess can't blame the PBA management for having tough times whenever there's a new alert that's being implemented. It's also due to the IATFs way of dealing with this pandemic and I guess we need to step up just like the other countries. It's not all about our health care system or they're advanced but it's about acceptance that we have to deal and live with this virus just as the other diseases.

The more to accept that we need to live with this virus, the better chances that we can push further. It's not just the government or the WHO, but everyone needs to do their share in fighting and preventing this virus. No doubt that PBA is doing their job observing how they can proceed with this current season. It's business, but they also need to think about people's health securities and by following what the IATF recommendation.

The game will proceed, we are waiting for announcement and soon it will resume back. Roll Eyes

I think of the PBA management as sluggish as they don't see this coming. Well, but next time they come back which is in February, I guess that they already have an alternative plan if ever there would be some restrictions tightened again by the government.
They should be proactive in making decisions and not that going to start planning when the unforeseen has come. I'm not an expert but I just see them too slow but it's understandable although one word for is that they were unprepared.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 24, 2022, 07:26:42 AM

Imports do not have to wait for too long before they can resume. Knowing that the teams are already allowed to start their practice is a good sign that soon enough the PBA will resume. NLEX had a good start, hopefully, their momentum will not be gone due to this long break.

Let me refresh you guys with the current standing.

Their record is 4-1
https://pba.ph/standings

Practices will allow them to be more familiar with those set plays. It's good to know that they are now allowing players to do the drill,

NLEX is doing great, but like every other team, they can use this long break to create new strategy and make good adjustments from their

last performances. We are still in the early rounds and once PBA resume, we will see which team will excel and start to rally.

Betting will be open again and each of us can share our predictions and thoughts with those upcoming games.. Wink

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