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Quote from: Japinat on January 22, 2022, 04:31:34 PM

At least we don't have to speculate now, we just have to wait for next month so we will see the resumption of the PBA conference. The imports might still be enjoying their stay in the PH as they have no choice, they need to finish the contract and wait until PBA would be able to settle a place to resume.

Yes, that's the best thing about it. There's now an awaited decision for next month and for those import contracts, those have specific dates and with the stoppage of the league.
Those days have been rendered based on their contract and if they have other commitments outside PBA, once they're done and finish their contracts, for sure they're also going to leave.

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Quote from: harizen on January 21, 2022, 06:28:40 PM

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Quote from: Finestream on January 21, 2022, 06:19:35 AM

There's no other decision but to resume with a bubble format. Looks like the entire Philipines is having some problem with the omicron virus and everywhere it's spreading. If they will wait until the cases will reduce, then they might have to wait longer, they should act now and set a bubble for their come back.

Yeah, the surge is making things disable again. I've seen some news that it would likely be by February they're going to resume the league. But this is all due to the unexpected turn of events due to the Omicron virus. But hopefully this time, Marcial and his gang should start thinking always of a plan b for unwanted events to come while they're rolling the league. They should be the wiser people around as they're the ones that are making decisions for the pursuant of PBA.

As far as I browse some news, the recent one is, Marcial is just waiting until the end of the month before pushing the bubble setup in February. Actually, IATF is the one that gives a late update on the league. GAB allows the PBA to operate but it should be on the area under Alert Level 2.

I think by February, the league will resume. But I also read just recently while browsing the web that there's a possibility that the Governor's Cup will resume but imports won't be present as they are about to go home on their respective schedule. I will try to find that link.

Yes, the news that I've read said that it will come back by this February. For the imports, that's what I'm saying that they have dedicated schedules and this delay that has happened will affect their stay. But anyway, we can assume things going back again for PBA by the month of Feb.
It's just a week and two around and for sure there will be more developments that shall come when it's already Feb.

At least we don't have to speculate now, we just have to wait for next month so we will see the resumption of the PBA conference. The imports might still be enjoying their stay in the PH as they have no choice, they need to finish the contract and wait until PBA would be able to settle a place to resume.

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Quote from: harizen on January 21, 2022, 06:28:40 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 21, 2022, 05:24:31 PM

Quote from: Finestream on January 21, 2022, 06:19:35 AM

There's no other decision but to resume with a bubble format. Looks like the entire Philipines is having some problem with the omicron virus and everywhere it's spreading. If they will wait until the cases will reduce, then they might have to wait longer, they should act now and set a bubble for their come back.

Yeah, the surge is making things disable again. I've seen some news that it would likely be by February they're going to resume the league. But this is all due to the unexpected turn of events due to the Omicron virus. But hopefully this time, Marcial and his gang should start thinking always of a plan b for unwanted events to come while they're rolling the league. They should be the wiser people around as they're the ones that are making decisions for the pursuant of PBA.

As far as I browse some news, the recent one is, Marcial is just waiting until the end of the month before pushing the bubble setup in February. Actually, IATF is the one that gives a late update on the league. GAB allows the PBA to operate but it should be on the area under Alert Level 2.

I think by February, the league will resume. But I also read just recently while browsing the web that there's a possibility that the Governor's Cup will resume but imports won't be present as they are about to go home on their respective schedule. I will try to find that link.

Yes, the news that I've read said that it will come back by this February. For the imports, that's what I'm saying that they have dedicated schedules and this delay that has happened will affect their stay. But anyway, we can assume things going back again for PBA by the month of Feb.
It's just a week and two around and for sure there will be more developments that shall come when it's already Feb.

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Quote from: Johnyz on January 22, 2022, 03:45:50 PM

IATF will surely approve it as long as it follows all the guidelines since it already happened before and maybe PBA will choose to play outside NCR again which gives them a higher chance of approval.

Of course, it's possible, however, the PBA will weight first the expenses they'll incur again before making a decision. They are giving some hint based on the news I read, so I'm optimistic they'll return soon in bubble set up.

Quote from: Johnyz on January 22, 2022, 03:45:50 PM

Let’s hope for a better case of covid next month and I’m confident that numbers will slowly go down again because we all know, elections is coming.

I'm curious by your statement, what's the relationship with the upcoming election on the decreasing of covid cases?

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Quote from: Rufsilf on January 22, 2022, 10:24:56 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on January 22, 2022, 03:10:47 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 21, 2022, 06:28:40 PM

As far as I browse some news, the recent one is, Marcial is just waiting until the end of the month before pushing the bubble setup in February. Actually, IATF is the one that gives a late update on the league. GAB allows the PBA to operate but it should be on the area under Alert Level 2.

I think by February, the league will resume. But I also read just recently while browsing the web that there's a possibility that the Governor's Cup will resume but imports won't be present as they are about to go home on their respective schedule. I will try to find that link.

PBA needs to wait for the IATF report/approval. They can go and continue using the bubble setup, but they need to make sure the location is safe.

Maybe that's part of the reason why Comm. Marcial is waiting till the end of this month. They are trying to make sure that the venue will not

be infected and they will get all the approval from the government for them to safely facilitate and continue the remaining games from this season..

Hopefully, the IATF would allow and approve the PBA's proposal on resuming its games next month, that said, the IATF will likely grant it if the said games will be held on those areas under Alert Level 2 or less and not inside the NCR with ofcourse proper precautions to maintain the safety of the players and staffs involved.

IATF will surely approve it as long as it follows all the guidelines since it already happened before and maybe PBA will choose to play outside NCR again which gives them a higher chance of approval. Let’s hope for a better case of covid next month and I’m confident that numbers will slowly go down again because we all know, elections is coming.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 22, 2022, 08:24:23 AM

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Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2022, 03:36:17 AM

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

What if he will decide, maybe his one season's salary in Japan would be equivalent to 5 seasons here in the Philippines. if the PBA is okay, I guess he will take the opportunity and show the Filipino talent in Japan, not only players are given the opportunity but the coaches as well.

Based on harizen's given figure above, it would have a difference of 75K Php more or less per month salary so i don't think that a one stint in Japan will be equal to five years coaching here in PH.

Well, if coach Topex wanted another feather on his cap, he could take that offer and comeback to the PH apply what he have experienced overseas.

That's a good idea, hopefully, the PBA owners will not make it personal to ban a coach once they accept and offer abroad. What happened is the PBA will become a training ground for the coaches and the fact that another league is interested in the coaches too, means the training ground is good.

If coach Topex really needs more money and more experience, he should grab this opportunity on the line already, it's not everyone is given this kind of chance.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 22, 2022, 09:03:12 AM

They don't save money from us, they see our potential. Players are signed as an import, so that means they are paid higher than a regular palyer. This is a big chance for the Filipino talents to explore a bigger opportunity in the basketball world, and I think the salary someone could earn from this league is satisfying enough if spent in the Philippines.

It's way better compared with how much they are earning here, but those rumors players that received offers from Japan B-league
are all now decided to stay, they might think for a much better future ahead, the competition outside is really high, Pinoy talents are
being paid as import if they can't perform that well, they can quickly send back.

So far we have seen those young talents enjoying, with good perks and bank money from Japan b-League.

We never know what will be their fate after playing outside,. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 22, 2022, 03:10:47 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 21, 2022, 06:28:40 PM

As far as I browse some news, the recent one is, Marcial is just waiting until the end of the month before pushing the bubble setup in February. Actually, IATF is the one that gives a late update on the league. GAB allows the PBA to operate but it should be on the area under Alert Level 2.

I think by February, the league will resume. But I also read just recently while browsing the web that there's a possibility that the Governor's Cup will resume but imports won't be present as they are about to go home on their respective schedule. I will try to find that link.

PBA needs to wait for the IATF report/approval. They can go and continue using the bubble setup, but they need to make sure the location is safe.

Maybe that's part of the reason why Comm. Marcial is waiting till the end of this month. They are trying to make sure that the venue will not

be infected and they will get all the approval from the government for them to safely facilitate and continue the remaining games from this season..

Hopefully, the IATF would allow and approve the PBA's proposal on resuming its games next month, that said, the IATF will likely grant it if the said games will be held on those areas under Alert Level 2 or less and not inside the NCR with ofcourse proper precautions to maintain the safety of the players and staffs involved.

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Quote from: samcrypto on January 22, 2022, 08:27:38 AM

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Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2022, 03:36:17 AM

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

What if he will decide, maybe his one season's salary in Japan would be equivalent to 5 seasons here in the Philippines. if the PBA is okay, I guess he will take the opportunity and show the Filipino talent in Japan, not only players are given the opportunity but the coaches as well.

Japan league seems getting more interested to Pinoy players and even the coach, maybe they save a lot of money from us and on the other hand, Pinoy players are making a lot of money in Japan plus their great exposure. If money is all what matters here better to grab the opportunity in Japan and beside, they continue the season even on a situation like this so they can really enjoy playing there, staying away from your family is the downside of this one, really hard to decide though.

They don't save money from us, they see our potential. Players are signed as an import, so that means they are paid higher than a regular palyer. This is a big chance for the Filipino talents to explore a bigger opportunity in the basketball world, and I think the salary someone could earn from this league is satisfying enough if spent in the Philippines.

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 22, 2022, 08:08:48 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on January 22, 2022, 08:06:10 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2022, 03:36:17 AM

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

What if he will decide, maybe his one season's salary in Japan would be equivalent to 5 seasons here in the Philippines. if the PBA is okay, I guess he will take the opportunity and show the Filipino talent in Japan, not only players are given the opportunity but the coaches as well.

Japan league seems getting more interested to Pinoy players and even the coach, maybe they save a lot of money from us and on the other hand, Pinoy players are making a lot of money in Japan plus their great exposure. If money is all what matters here better to grab the opportunity in Japan and beside, they continue the season even on a situation like this so they can really enjoy playing there, staying away from your family is the downside of this one, really hard to decide though.

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 22, 2022, 08:08:48 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on January 22, 2022, 08:06:10 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2022, 03:36:17 AM

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

What if he will decide, maybe his one season's salary in Japan would be equivalent to 5 seasons here in the Philippines. if the PBA is okay, I guess he will take the opportunity and show the Filipino talent in Japan, not only players are given the opportunity but the coaches as well.

Based on harizen's given figure above, it would have a difference of 75K Php more or less per month salary so i don't think that a one stint in Japan will be equal to five years coaching here in PH.

Well, if coach Topex wanted another feather on his cap, he could take that offer and comeback to the PH apply what he have experienced overseas.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 22, 2022, 08:06:10 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2022, 03:36:17 AM

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

What if he will decide, maybe his one season's salary in Japan would be equivalent to 5 seasons here in the Philippines. if the PBA is okay, I guess he will take the opportunity and show the Filipino talent in Japan, not only players are given the opportunity but the coaches as well.

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Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2022, 03:36:17 AM

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

Too tempting indeed but i don't think that he would bite the offer as he would be away for his family for a long time. Filipinos are too attached to their families so i don't think that coach Topex will be coaching in Japan soon, maybe if he had no more job in the Philippines then i think that he go there to coach.

It's a good thing though that coaches had been noticed in Japan, maybe they want to experiment what works in their system, US or Philippine style of coaching.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 21, 2022, 08:24:34 AM

While waiting for the PBA to resume, let me share with you some great news.

This :
Matt Ganuelas Rosser signs with TNT after declining Terrafirma offer

I almost forgot this guy. I'm happy that he found a good team again, he will be a great addition to the TNT as his talent is exceptional in terms of defense. so hopefully he is still at his prime so he can contribute to the success of the team.

Another added boost to TNT's already good offense. Rosser is no doubt although not in prime he's still on his best. He's just 31 after all.

And he's already used to playing with the TNT's system and already handled by Coach Chot Reyes during his Gilas stint. He also has 1 championship in TNT way back 2015 Commissioner's Cup as a rookie.

Terrafirma again loses another possible good player. But no problem, they have just to remain competitive like what they did the last conference.

I think it was influenced by the decision of coach Chot Reyes, the management maybe given him the freedom to hire players that he thinks could help the team. He did a great job last season, so now he is enjoying that privilege. Great job for the TNT management, they need someone like him who can work on thed defensive side consistently.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 21, 2022, 08:24:34 AM

While waiting for the PBA to resume, let me share with you some great news.

This :
Matt Ganuelas Rosser signs with TNT after declining Terrafirma offer

I almost forgot this guy. I'm happy that he found a good team again, he will be a great addition to the TNT as his talent is exceptional in terms of defense. so hopefully he is still at his prime so he can contribute to the success of the team.

Another added boost to TNT's already good offense. Rosser is no doubt although not in prime he's still on his best. He's just 31 after all.

And he's already used to playing with the TNT's system and already handled by Coach Chot Reyes during his Gilas stint. He also has 1 championship in TNT way back 2015 Commissioner's Cup as a rookie.

Terrafirma again loses another possible good player. But no problem, they have just to remain competitive like what they did the last conference.

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I just encountered the news that aside from the Magnolia Coach Chito Victolero, Phoenix Head Coach Topex Robinson was also being offered as an assistant coach for the Japan B-League.

And they disclosed the salary of an assistant coach in the Japan B-league which is $5,000 to $6,000 per month. Much higher to his salary as a Head Coach in Phoenix which is Php 200,000 a month which is around $3,900 as of the latest currency exchange rate.

Too tempting and this will be a hard decision for Coach Topex.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 22, 2022, 01:22:51 AM

Quote from: Maslate on January 21, 2022, 06:28:02 PM

They can be back but only in a bubble format. We have experienced the lockdown before, even worst than the current implementation but they were successful with running a PBA season. They learn from that success already so they can replicate it and continue the pending conference.

I understand why PBA is taking too long to decide and wants to set a deadline before implementing a bubble. We can't say if the number of cases will be lessened in a few days or weeks to go and that's the basis of PBA before continuing. If the number of cases will be lessened and the preparation for the bubble is now commencing, it's like they are spending not wisely with the money since it only takes a few days more monitoring the situation then Manila might go back again into Alert Level 2.

Even with 30,000+ cases every day, the good news is, 98.3% of those are mild and asymptomatic.

Even though the spread rate of Omicron Variant is faster than that of Delta, the severity of the virus is lower compare to Delta.
With the low severity of Omicron, the doctors are just advising those positive patients to do home quarantine and isolate themselves because they can recover even though they are just at their homes.

Its been almost 3 weeks since the PBA suspended their games and I think its they will make a decision once the number of cases in the NCR will lessen which is I think starting to go down already but still at 5 digits. With regards to NCR going back to Alert Level 2, I think it will take few more weeks before it happen. Number of cases will stay at around 20,000-30,000 for quite some time before it goes down. Just right now after 2 days of around 20,000+ cases, we got at around 30,000+ cases again. This just shows that the number of cases can increase significantly at one day then decrease significantly at another. I just hope that the PBA will come up with the best solution possible.

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Quote from: harizen on January 21, 2022, 06:28:40 PM

As far as I browse some news, the recent one is, Marcial is just waiting until the end of the month before pushing the bubble setup in February. Actually, IATF is the one that gives a late update on the league. GAB allows the PBA to operate but it should be on the area under Alert Level 2.

I think by February, the league will resume. But I also read just recently while browsing the web that there's a possibility that the Governor's Cup will resume but imports won't be present as they are about to go home on their respective schedule. I will try to find that link.

PBA needs to wait for the IATF report/approval. They can go and continue using the bubble setup, but they need to make sure the location is safe.

Maybe that's part of the reason why Comm. Marcial is waiting till the end of this month. They are trying to make sure that the venue will not

be infected and they will get all the approval from the government for them to safely facilitate and continue the remaining games from this season..

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Quote from: Maslate on January 21, 2022, 06:28:02 PM

They can be back but only in a bubble format. We have experienced the lockdown before, even worst than the current implementation but they were successful with running a PBA season. They learn from that success already so they can replicate it and continue the pending conference.

I understand why PBA is taking too long to decide and wants to set a deadline before implementing a bubble. We can't say if the number of cases will be lessened in a few days or weeks to go and that's the basis of PBA before continuing. If the number of cases will be lessened and the preparation for the bubble is now commencing, it's like they are spending not wisely with the money since it only takes a few days more monitoring the situation then Manila might go back again into Alert Level 2.

Even with 30,000+ cases every day, the good news is, 98.3% of those are mild and asymptomatic.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 21, 2022, 05:15:45 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 20, 2022, 03:12:40 PM

With this new rule in effect (Unrestricted Free Agent), any players could chose which team he wanted to play as long as that team is willing to make an offer to him.

Wait new rule? I'm not aware of this. Is Unrestricted Free Agent are not in PBA terms? I thought there is but not just used mostly. Cheesy

Before it is "Restricted Free Agent", the mother team has always the rights to sign the players if the contract of that players expires unless they want to trade him.

But this rule is in effect only on the players drafted in the year 2014 if i'm not mistaken.

Let's take the case of Rodney Brondial, the Aces has offered him a two-year contract after his contract expired but he declined the offer and signed with SMB. Maybe the offer of SMB is lesser but the opportunity to play for the championship is high thus the bonus awaits hehe.

Thank you for the information.

If we take the example of Rodney Brondial, that was the same as the terms under Unrestricted Free Agent in the NBA. Nah ok let's stop the confusion Cheesy

But yes, I agree with the last part of the statement, SMB even offers a lowered contract to him, has the chance of getting a championship compared to playing with Alaska that needs a big revamp to compete in the league.

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