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Quote from: abel1337 on April 08, 2021, 03:29:13 PM

PBA players would be the second priority of the government in terms of public vaccination especially because of the shortage of supply in the Philippines,

PBA players aren't handled by the government in terms of vaccination. Not the usual, 1st priority will be healthcare, then seniors, then so on.

The government allows private companies to purchase their own vaccine with a certain condition currently that there should be donated to the government (if I'm not mistaken 50%). The agreement to the vaccine manufacturers will be done by the private companies themselves. And since there are lots of countries and companies from other countries too in-line, at any manufacturers, like I said, it might take months before the league can settle a vaccine.

Once the league was able to secure its own supply of vaccines, it can proceed anytime with its own vaccination program outside of the government's priority list.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 08, 2021, 03:12:12 PM

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Quote from: Japinat on April 08, 2021, 05:35:48 AM

I guess they can get vaccine from different supplier, I believe we have a lot of supplier of vaccines that is arriving, so to make it sure everyone is being catered with their needs, there should be a lot of option. For now let's not expect a regular format, a bubble is more suited in the situation but the moment the management is sure that everyone is getting the vaccine, they can always swith it to normal, but no crowd yet or probably limited only.

Not that much to arrive, from Pfizer, the government only got around 117k and that's not much that our government has taken. Johnson and Johnson has already been approved by our FDA and I think they can order from there but the question if these manufacturers can cater their order since there's a lot of orders from different parts of the world.

Another thing to consider, Covid is not only here but in most part of the world if not everywhere, it will be difficult to find supplier to cater those orders in a much shorter period. PBA needs to consider every possible solution if they really wanted to push forward.

That proposal considering players to get vaccinated might give some breathing to the players and staff as they don't need to lock themselves inside the chosen venue, they can go home after the game and live normally.

PBA players would be the second priority of the government in terms of public vaccination especially because of the shortage of supply in the Philippines, Addition to that AstraZeneca (One of the approved COVID vaccine) were suspended due to unsafe side effects which makes the vaccine supply stiffer in the Philippines. I also think that bubble wouldn't be effective on PBA right now, With the super-fast growing case on NCR+, It would be pretty hard as of now for them to establish a place where the bubble will happen. With the current situation right now in the Philippines, It will be really hard for them to operate events right now.

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2021, 03:02:30 PM

Quote from: Japinat on April 08, 2021, 05:35:48 AM

I guess they can get vaccine from different supplier, I believe we have a lot of supplier of vaccines that is arriving, so to make it sure everyone is being catered with their needs, there should be a lot of option. For now let's not expect a regular format, a bubble is more suited in the situation but the moment the management is sure that everyone is getting the vaccine, they can always swith it to normal, but no crowd yet or probably limited only.

Not that much to arrive, from Pfizer, the government only got around 117k and that's not much that our government has taken. Johnson and Johnson has already been approved by our FDA and I think they can order from there but the question if these manufacturers can cater their order since there's a lot of orders from different parts of the world.

Another thing to consider, Covid is not only here but in most part of the world if not everywhere, it will be difficult to find supplier to cater those orders in a much shorter period. PBA needs to consider every possible solution if they really wanted to push forward.

That proposal considering players to get vaccinated might give some breathing to the players and staff as they don't need to lock themselves inside the chosen venue, they can go home after the game and live normally.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 08, 2021, 05:35:48 AM

I guess they can get vaccine from different supplier, I believe we have a lot of supplier of vaccines that is arriving, so to make it sure everyone is being catered with their needs, there should be a lot of option. For now let's not expect a regular format, a bubble is more suited in the situation but the moment the management is sure that everyone is getting the vaccine, they can always swith it to normal, but no crowd yet or probably limited only.

Not that much to arrive, from Pfizer, the government only got around 117k and that's not much that our government has taken. Johnson and Johnson has already been approved by our FDA and I think they can order from there but the question if these manufacturers can cater their order since there's a lot of orders from different parts of the world.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 07, 2021, 06:19:35 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2021, 05:46:09 PM

Guiao prefers mandatory PBA vaccination over another bubble season

If all the players and staff are getting the vaccine, then they can play in an arena while they can go to their family after the game. Unlike in bubble where they will have to sacrifice and stay in one location. So hopefully they have enough vaccine prior the start of the new season.

Coach Yeng Guiao's suggestion is good but it's easier said than done.

Vaccines are limited and even the government allows private buying, there's no vaccine available that can be purchased easily. If the league will buy vaccines, it will take several months before they can settle an agreement.

If they really want to save that P65 million to P70M then don't think of opening the PBA for the meantime and wait for several months even it will take the opening to 4Q. But if they will still push it, maybe this month or next month, then bubble setup is necessary.

Good point! Such amount of money can save up either to wait or another set of a bubble type league.

Vaccines is very important but just like what you pointed out, such deal might take awhile as there's high loads from pharmaceuticals hard to get those meds to supply the league's needs.

Sad thing if this league needs to push then a bubble set up is needed.

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Just like to refresh everyone on the PBA's plan before the ECQ happen.

Next PBA season to start April

It's suppose to be starting this month, but as we can see, there's no certainty whether it will start or not, they don't want to violate the protocol so they should careflly plan it. Hopefully we will be hearing more updates regarding the opening of the new season.

Quote from: Japinat on April 08, 2021, 05:35:48 AM

For now let's not expect a regular format, a bubble is more suited in the situation but the moment the management is sure that everyone is getting the vaccine, they can always swith it to normal, but no crowd yet or probably limited only.

I'm not expecting as well but I'm expecting the new season will start soon. (soon means this month or next month)

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Quote from: blockman on April 08, 2021, 05:31:38 AM

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2021, 05:46:09 PM

Guiao prefers mandatory PBA vaccination over another bubble season

If all the players and staff are getting the vaccine, then they can play in an arena while they can go to their family after the game. Unlike in bubble where they will have to sacrifice and stay in one location. So hopefully they have enough vaccine prior the start of the new season.

Coach Yeng Guiao's suggestion is good but it's easier said than done.

Vaccines are limited and even the government allows private buying, there's no vaccine available that can be purchased easily. If the league will buy vaccines, it will take several months before they can settle an agreement.

If they really want to save that P65 million to P70M then don't think of opening the PBA for the meantime and wait for several months even it will take the opening to 4Q. But if they will still push it, maybe this month or next month, then bubble setup is necessary.

And there's another problem with the vaccine through Astra Zeneca, they've halted the usage of it for people who are aging 60 and below. And that's going to be an obstacle if they prefer to have more vaccination than the bubble which is a better idea.
Well, it's for them to tackle it and to choose with of those which they think is preferable and better.

I guess they can get vaccine from different supplier, I believe we have a lot of supplier of vaccines that is arriving, so to make it sure everyone is being catered with their needs, there should be a lot of option. For now let's not expect a regular format, a bubble is more suited in the situation but the moment the management is sure that everyone is getting the vaccine, they can always swith it to normal, but no crowd yet or probably limited only.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 07, 2021, 06:19:35 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2021, 05:46:09 PM

Guiao prefers mandatory PBA vaccination over another bubble season

If all the players and staff are getting the vaccine, then they can play in an arena while they can go to their family after the game. Unlike in bubble where they will have to sacrifice and stay in one location. So hopefully they have enough vaccine prior the start of the new season.

Coach Yeng Guiao's suggestion is good but it's easier said than done.

Vaccines are limited and even the government allows private buying, there's no vaccine available that can be purchased easily. If the league will buy vaccines, it will take several months before they can settle an agreement.

If they really want to save that P65 million to P70M then don't think of opening the PBA for the meantime and wait for several months even it will take the opening to 4Q. But if they will still push it, maybe this month or next month, then bubble setup is necessary.

And there's another problem with the vaccine through Astra Zeneca, they've halted the usage of it for people who are aging 60 and below. And that's going to be an obstacle if they prefer to have more vaccination than the bubble which is a better idea.
Well, it's for them to tackle it and to choose with of those which they think is preferable and better.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 07, 2021, 08:56:39 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on April 07, 2021, 07:37:21 AM

We won't be able to see JMF anytime soon.

Fajardo extends recovery period
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They still have Tautuaa to replace JMF as of now.
We know that we want to see him dominate the paint again like what he used to do but making sure that he is 100% healthy when coming back would be better than pushing him to play even he isn't 100% sure.

Not as dominate as JMF, I know that Tautuaa can still fill what JMF can do. What I'm thinking now is the bench Center. They have some though but not that familiar for me aside from Mamaril which is already old and not that dominating too.

Tautuaa is inconsistent, and maybe he has a lot of weakness, reason why he was traded 2 times already. I don't know if they'll still be successful without JMF but they'll be in the playoffs for sure, and not because of Tautuaa but beacuse of their shooters.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 07, 2021, 07:37:21 AM

We won't be able to see JMF anytime soon.

Fajardo extends recovery period
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They still have Tautuaa to replace JMF as of now.
We know that we want to see him dominate the paint again like what he used to do but making sure that he is 100% healthy when coming back would be better than pushing him to play even he isn't 100% sure.

Not as dominate as JMF, I know that Tautuaa can still fill what JMF can do. What I'm thinking now is the bench Center. They have some though but not that familiar for me aside from Mamaril which is already old and not that dominating too.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2021, 05:46:09 PM

Guiao prefers mandatory PBA vaccination over another bubble season

If all the players and staff are getting the vaccine, then they can play in an arena while they can go to their family after the game. Unlike in bubble where they will have to sacrifice and stay in one location. So hopefully they have enough vaccine prior the start of the new season.

Coach Yeng Guiao's suggestion is good but it's easier said than done.

Vaccines are limited and even the government allows private buying, there's no vaccine available that can be purchased easily. If the league will buy vaccines, it will take several months before they can settle an agreement.

If they really want to save that P65 million to P70M then don't think of opening the PBA for the meantime and wait for several months even it will take the opening to 4Q. But if they will still push it, maybe this month or next month, then bubble setup is necessary.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 07, 2021, 07:37:21 AM

We won't be able to see JMF anytime soon.

Fajardo extends recovery period

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THE expected delay in the opener of the PBA 46th season also meant extending the recovery period of San Miguel Beer main man June Mar Fajardo.

Although the Beermen are just as eager to start the Philippine Cup just like the rest of the field, the continued spike in COVID-19 cases has forced the league to abort the planned April 18 season opener and instead, re-evaluate the entire calendar for the year.

As PBA officials assess their next course of action, the recuperation of the 6-foot-10 Fajardo from an off-season surgery also remains.

"With the current situation, siguradong mamo-move ang season," said team manager Gee Abanilla. "That would be good for June Mar's recovery."

I was expecting he will already play this season becasue I'm reading news that he already started to practice with the team. Well, thanks anyway for the news, at least we know and we would not expect much.

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No need to rush everything, Fajardo has to insure that he is fully healthy before he will come back.
He is still the best player in the PBA, his healt matters and I think his team will not struggl because SMB is full of stars.

I agree, they need to take care of their big man and let the other stars win for the team, they already have CJ Perez, so they are stronger this season.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 07, 2021, 04:39:12 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 07, 2021, 11:55:09 AM

It's been a while and for sure a lots of fans are really missing this league.

Seeing comments on the social media in the PBA groups, pages, or basketball groups, not seeing things like that because of the current situation.

Fans don't seem to be excited about the league because they know it won't be happening soon and their mindset is now all about pandemic affecting their general lives. There are also rumors that some PBA players don't want to play next conference either in the usual or bubble setup since the virus is just around the corner.

Sorry for that and thanks for correcting me, I might be assuming that same with how I missed the game that there are fans like me who
wanted to see some game again.

My mistake I guess, and if there are players who doesn't want to play since it's possible that the virus might hit them bad.

They are also concerned about their health and their love ones, hearing lots of news about covid cases and hospital can't carry the load, even known personalities died because of this virus unable to get early attention from the hospital due to loaded fcialities.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 07, 2021, 04:39:12 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 07, 2021, 11:55:09 AM

It's been a while and for sure a lots of fans are really missing this league.

Seeing comments on the social media in the PBA groups, pages, or basketball groups, not seeing things like that because of the current situation.

Fans don't seem to be excited about the league because they know it won't be happening soon and their mindset is now all about pandemic affecting their general lives. There are also rumors that some PBA players don't want to play next conference either in the usual or bubble setup since the virus is just around the corner.

Maybe if Ray Parks wasn't acting weird he can be save by the current situation of the PBA if he doesn't want to play since PBA might not commence anytime soon. I also like to emphasize that PBA players does not make their own decision all the time, if PBA will say there's a bubble and they have to play, they should because without some of the popular players, PBA will be boring to watch, this is business, they are needed to attract more people to watch.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 07, 2021, 11:55:09 AM

It's been a while and for sure a lots of fans are really missing this league.

Seeing comments on the social media in the PBA groups, pages, or basketball groups, not seeing things like that because of the current situation.

Fans don't seem to be excited about the league because they know it won't be happening soon and their mindset is now all about pandemic affecting their general lives. There are also rumors that some PBA players don't want to play next conference either in the usual or bubble setup since the virus is just around the corner.

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Quote from: arwin100 on April 06, 2021, 05:02:16 AM

But unfortunately the cases still rising and we still got 5 digit records everyday together with ECQ is extended so maybe these will take long months before they can find better solution on how they can start the league. The only solution what I see right now is the mass vaccination so hopefully their will be enough vaccine on upcoming months so that we may have a hard immunity and all things will place in good state and possibly for that we can see our favorite sports starting if not in normal but minimal risk situation again.

It's lesser this time, the Metro Manila is the center of the covid-19 increased cases but for the provincial places, they have lesser and just like last time, they can put back the bubble and let all the staff members and players stay there until the end of the season. The PBA management can't wait until the mass vaccination ends, in fact, it's already happening but it will take time until the center that has the most covid cases will get the herd immunity.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 07, 2021, 07:03:44 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 06, 2021, 08:46:01 PM

Whatever the solution is as long as the PBA season will continue this year which is I think it is then we are all good even though it will be just one season but better if they can make it 2 seasons

We need to wait for the decision, but we can expect that PBA season will commence soon and likely be in a bubble type or not depending on the availability of vaccine and it's not instant that everyone will get their vaccine once the vaccine is already available, so probably we will see that the date will be move again.

No final announcement yet and we are all waiting for whatever decision the board have. It's been a while and for sure a lots of
fans are really missing this league.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2021, 05:46:09 PM

Maybe this is a good solution rather than the bubble.

Guiao prefers mandatory PBA vaccination over another bubble season

If all the players and staff are getting the vaccine, then they can play in an arena while they can go to their family after the game. Unlike in bubble where they will have to sacrifice and stay in one location. So hopefully they have enough vaccine prior the start of the new season.

Vaccine is a good solution as it will lessen the risk of everyone, if this proposal will implement then you are right there's no need

to sacrifice and stay inside just like how things been done during the bubble.

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We won't be able to see JMF anytime soon.

Fajardo extends recovery period

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THE expected delay in the opener of the PBA 46th season also meant extending the recovery period of San Miguel Beer main man June Mar Fajardo.

Although the Beermen are just as eager to start the Philippine Cup just like the rest of the field, the continued spike in COVID-19 cases has forced the league to abort the planned April 18 season opener and instead, re-evaluate the entire calendar for the year.

As PBA officials assess their next course of action, the recuperation of the 6-foot-10 Fajardo from an off-season surgery also remains.

"With the current situation, siguradong mamo-move ang season," said team manager Gee Abanilla. "That would be good for June Mar's recovery."

No need to rush everything, Fajardo has to insure that he is fully healthy before he will come back.
He is still the best player in the PBA, his healt matters and I think his team will not struggl because SMB is full of stars.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 06, 2021, 08:46:01 PM

Whatever the solution is as long as the PBA season will continue this year which is I think it is then we are all good even though it will be just one season but better if they can make it 2 seasons

We need to wait for the decision, but we can expect that PBA season will commence soon and likely be in a bubble type or not depending on the availability of vaccine and it's not instant that everyone will get their vaccine once the vaccine is already available, so probably we will see that the date will be move again.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 06, 2021, 04:49:54 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 06, 2021, 04:41:34 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 05, 2021, 08:09:37 PM

Another sad news for the PBA. Looks like "Skyrus" Cyrus Baguio is retiring on the league.
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I guess this is not a fresh news anymore.

This was dated JAN 24, 2021.

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Cyrus Baguio retires from PBA after 17 years

he is already 40 years old, and played 17 years in the PBA, I think he has already fuilfilled his dreams.

I see I see. My apologies with that

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Either way I agree with what you said that he is already 40 years old and he got many achievements already in the league. Its time for him to give his spot to those young players who are aspiring to be like him or be like their idols too.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 06, 2021, 05:46:09 PM

Maybe this is a good solution rather than the bubble.

Guiao prefers mandatory PBA vaccination over another bubble season

If all the players and staff are getting the vaccine, then they can play in an arena while they can go to their family after the game. Unlike in bubble where they will have to sacrifice and stay in one location. So hopefully they have enough vaccine prior the start of the new season.

If they will prioritize the safety of the people then bubble would be the best solution with this but if they really don't want to do what they did last year then I think that this would be a better solution.
Is it also possible that the family of the players will be included in the bubble area too. Of course that would be more costly to the league but at least the players will have time to spend with their family.

Whatever the solution is as long as the PBA season will continue this year which is I think it is then we are all good even though it will be just one season but better if they can make it 2 seasons

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