We know that Philippined basletball Association have a lot of great teams but this is two which is SMB and TNT is one of the best of them and for me it's hard choose between but it depends to the performance they show to the watcher TNT is better for this.
But still not know who is really deserving to win it depends again to their game.
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I am more on the favor for SMB to win this championship as they are far more experienced in this match but that act Santos gave was pure racism, hope that the community service for him should be against racism.
I am guessing this will really be a grand slam for the SMB only if they will really put more pressure on Jones as he is the one that really plays well for the TNT. It's gonna be tough for SMB as Jones is really unstoppable on the court but knowing the fact that he played many roles and minute plays that will be the advantage SMB gonna take as exhaustion will really blow up for him.
I am guessing this will really be a grand slam for the SMB only if they will really put more pressure on Jones as he is the one that really plays well for the TNT. It's gonna be tough for SMB as Jones is really unstoppable on the court but knowing the fact that he played many roles and minute plays that will be the advantage SMB gonna take as exhaustion will really blow up for him.
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This is what PBA Commissioner acted, given Arwind Santos for a 200,000 PHP fined from monkey gesture he did towards to TNT import Terrence Jones.
Apologized as well...
https://twitter.com/arwindsotnas/status/1161916928778100736
This should be a lesson to him. I hope in game 6 they play more objectively to their particular same way of playing. One step ahead to grand slam, so SMB must shown a nicely indeed good game.
Ofcourse this is an obvious strategy to distract Jones,Santos did this immature action to make the airport angry and won’t focus on the game clearly.for me php200,000 is not enough for this instead he must not be allowed to play in the next game 6-7 .,this is disrespectful and attitude of a loser since Jones is doing nothing towards him when he made this insult .i am a Beermen fan but I didn’t like what he did yesterday as I am seriously watching the game This is what PBA Commissioner acted, given Arwind Santos for a 200,000 PHP fined from monkey gesture he did towards to TNT import Terrence Jones.
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San Miguel Beer forward Arwind Santos has been fined P200,000 by the PBA for his monkey gesture directed at TnT import Terrence Jones in the second quarter of Game 5 of the PBA Commissioner's Cup Finals last Wednesday.
PBA Commissioner Willie Marcial, who summoned Santos on Thursday, said the San Miguel player will also render 100 hours of community service and undergo seminar and counseling on equality and racial discrimination.
https://www.pba.ph/news/pba-fines-arwind-santos-200k-for-offensive-behavior
PBA Commissioner Willie Marcial, who summoned Santos on Thursday, said the San Miguel player will also render 100 hours of community service and undergo seminar and counseling on equality and racial discrimination.
https://www.pba.ph/news/pba-fines-arwind-santos-200k-for-offensive-behavior
Apologized as well...
https://twitter.com/arwindsotnas/status/1161916928778100736
This should be a lesson to him. I hope in game 6 they play more objectively to their particular same way of playing. One step ahead to grand slam, so SMB must shown a nicely indeed good game.
@bisdak40
This is what PBA Commissioner acted, given Arwind Santos for a 200,000 PHP fined from monkey gesture he did towards to TNT import Terrence Jones.
Apologized as well...
https://twitter.com/arwindsotnas/status/1161916928778100736
This should be a lesson to him. I hope in game 6 they play more objectively to their particular same way of playing. One step ahead to grand slam, so SMB must shown a nicely indeed good game.
This is what PBA Commissioner acted, given Arwind Santos for a 200,000 PHP fined from monkey gesture he did towards to TNT import Terrence Jones.
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San Miguel Beer forward Arwind Santos has been fined P200,000 by the PBA for his monkey gesture directed at TnT import Terrence Jones in the second quarter of Game 5 of the PBA Commissioner's Cup Finals last Wednesday.
PBA Commissioner Willie Marcial, who summoned Santos on Thursday, said the San Miguel player will also render 100 hours of community service and undergo seminar and counseling on equality and racial discrimination.
https://www.pba.ph/news/pba-fines-arwind-santos-200k-for-offensive-behavior
PBA Commissioner Willie Marcial, who summoned Santos on Thursday, said the San Miguel player will also render 100 hours of community service and undergo seminar and counseling on equality and racial discrimination.
https://www.pba.ph/news/pba-fines-arwind-santos-200k-for-offensive-behavior
Apologized as well...
https://twitter.com/arwindsotnas/status/1161916928778100736
This should be a lesson to him. I hope in game 6 they play more objectively to their particular same way of playing. One step ahead to grand slam, so SMB must shown a nicely indeed good game.
Jones' was right! What Santos did was no longer a "mind game" but an act of racism definitely. Being cocky inside the hard court is considerably good sometimes because it was a way of distracting your opponent but in this case I think it is already hitting below the belt, it was a direct insult. I hope TNT will win this Friday and make his beautiful revenge to that braggart (in a clean and decent way of course 
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he should be suspended for x number of games so others will be aware of the sanctions for such act.
According to the news, Commissioner Willie Marcial called him already and fined him with P200k plus 100 hours of community service and I think it's fair enough since it was just a gesture and no physical contact happened. 
Who among your here believe that this series is rigged and will go to 7 games? Why?
And do you dare to bet on TNT regardless of the odds in this particular game, the line is not open yet but I can guess that TNT will remain the favorites.
If so, what would be the line using the point spread betting?
And do you dare to bet on TNT regardless of the odds in this particular game, the line is not open yet but I can guess that TNT will remain the favorites.
If so, what would be the line using the point spread betting?
TNT will only choke on the later part of the game which the SMB will capitalize. Jones will get tired because of the minutes he played and almost no rest for the whole game. This is the reason why SMB will catch up on the second half of the game. Even TNT will be the favorite in game 6, I believe the beermen will end it on that same match and no more game 7.
Have you guys see this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSsajuxIF8k it talks all about racism from what arwind santos did towards to terence jones. If you’re a truly fan of SMB we all know that they doesn’t not play like this, they should’ve respect their opponents despite for winning.
They’re one step ahead to grandslam and win the championship to this conference. I’m a fan of both teams, but I hate the fact that in every game SMB doesn’t show up a good game because they losen up a respect for their opponent, especially to T.Jones who’s even not our countrymen but still managed to give us a nice game and not even bothered to all annoying things SMB showed up.
I am a fan of SMB but i don't like what Arwind Santos did to TJ. I know that he is trying to get under the skin of Jones but it's not appropriate to do such kind of thing. Fine is not enough and if i have my way, he should be suspended for x number of games so others will be aware of the sanctions for such act. They’re one step ahead to grandslam and win the championship to this conference. I’m a fan of both teams, but I hate the fact that in every game SMB doesn’t show up a good game because they losen up a respect for their opponent, especially to T.Jones who’s even not our countrymen but still managed to give us a nice game and not even bothered to all annoying things SMB showed up.
Have you guys see this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSsajuxIF8k it talks all about racism from what arwind santos did towards to terence jones. If you’re a truly fan of SMB we all know that they doesn’t not play like this, they should’ve respect their opponents despite for winning.
They’re one step ahead to grandslam and win the championship to this conference. I’m a fan of both teams, but I hate the fact that in every game SMB doesn’t show up a good game because they losen up a respect for their opponent, especially to T.Jones who’s even not our countrymen but still managed to give us a nice game and not even bothered to all annoying things SMB showed up.
They’re one step ahead to grandslam and win the championship to this conference. I’m a fan of both teams, but I hate the fact that in every game SMB doesn’t show up a good game because they losen up a respect for their opponent, especially to T.Jones who’s even not our countrymen but still managed to give us a nice game and not even bothered to all annoying things SMB showed up.
Who among your here believe that this series is rigged and will go to 7 games? Why?
And do you dare to bet on TNT regardless of the odds in this particular game, the line is not open yet but I can guess that TNT will remain the favorites.
If so, what would be the line using the point spread betting?
And do you dare to bet on TNT regardless of the odds in this particular game, the line is not open yet but I can guess that TNT will remain the favorites.
If so, what would be the line using the point spread betting?
TNT will only choke on the later part of the game which the SMB will capitalize. Jones will get tired because of the minutes he played and almost no rest for the whole game. This is the reason why SMB will catch up on the second half of the game. Even TNT will be the favorite in game 6, I believe the beermen will end it on that same match and no more game 7.
Who among your here believe that this series is rigged and will go to 7 games? Why?
And do you dare to bet on TNT regardless of the odds in this particular game, the line is not open yet but I can guess that TNT will remain the favorites.
If so, what would be the line using the point spread betting?
And do you dare to bet on TNT regardless of the odds in this particular game, the line is not open yet but I can guess that TNT will remain the favorites.
If so, what would be the line using the point spread betting?
I really can't accept this game 5.
Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import
, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).
I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
Your'e a TNT fan Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import
, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
. 2 words to explain what happened to them in the last 10 mins of the game. THEY CHOKED!!!!!!.The momentum has switched already and the odds on the market now will favor on the other side now. If you will see, the last minutes of the game is pure ISO of Jones. He doesn't pass that much and he has 6 turnovers on the quarter alone. In the crucial time, he missed his shot that can give them the lead. No flops. Its just the defense of the SMB gave them the win. Clean game for the SMB.
He is really one of those underrated guys in PBA, he is already 30 years old but only got recognized during 2017 when he got the first overall drop pick of SMB.
They are using him now for 2 reasons. 1 is because he is a good defender and he can move faster compare to Fajardo. He can cope up with Jones that is why he is playing more now in the Finals. I think the 2nd reason is there are some rumors I saw in the internet that he will be traded in other teams since his minutes in SMB is limited only. Woooowwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!
Despite the multiple possessions of TNT with 1 point lead, they could not convert. Kudos to Standhardinger for putting up a great defense on Jones. SMB experience was evident in this game, they kept their composure after being down by as much as 16 points.
this is what I was talking about. TNT is pretty strong right now because of their import and this game only shows how crucial it is to stop this monster Jones so Kuddos indeed to Standhardinger for doing a job on the last minutes of game 5.Despite the multiple possessions of TNT with 1 point lead, they could not convert. Kudos to Standhardinger for putting up a great defense on Jones. SMB experience was evident in this game, they kept their composure after being down by as much as 16 points.
He is really one of those underrated guys in PBA, he is already 30 years old but only got recognized during 2017 when he got the first overall drop pick of SMB.
I really can't accept this game 5.
Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).
I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import
, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
They are the champion and has been dominating the league so you can expect that they will not easily give up, and based on their games history, SMB are really good in the 2nd half so I'm not surprise that they made a rally in the 4th to win the game, credits to Christian Standhardinger, he was able to stop Jones many times from his drive and if you noticed, Fajardo has a very limited minutes in the 4th because SMB wants a faster squad.
I also like to put a bet on live betting, SMB is +6.5 at 1.57 odds, I think SMB will cover the points if they are unfortunate to loss tonight.
I'm lucky to win my live betting but should be luckier if I just go for the Moneyline, maybe next time, LOL.
I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
They are very used to it maybe because they got a lot of offensive weapons that even a 20-point lead by an opponent in the fourth quarter is not safe if you are facing SMB and we have seen that over and over again this past few years.Lost my last 3 bets of this series
, hope this game 6 would be kind to me. Still sticking to TNT. 
What a game. Whew. Intense.
Congrats who made it on the trap odds for SMB. Just don't know if the majority got a chance to place a bet since I understand they are doubting.
By the way, no one post here or message me about accepting my bet. If only you did, you are now up by 1 and SMB just needs to win 1 more then I will lose.
Will I open any chances? YES. But since SMB is now up to 1, you now have the advantage.
With that 3-2 lead, I think it will gain confidence for SMB fans out there and I do expect that someone will now challenge my bet
. I will still bet on TNT to win the Series for BTC0.01. But if SMB won the series I will pay BTC0.008. That was worth to put a shot. Message me or quote this post. Valid until 12 hours before Game 6 starts. Not exactly a game-changer but an important piece for SMB. If you take out an important piece in any team, that will be a big deal because they'll have to change their style of play significantly.
I did not know that a simple statement of what could have happened triggered you so much which made you draw a lot of conclusions.
On the other hand, even Lassiter is there, do you think TNT will not make any adjustments?
Too much expectation for Lassiter without realizing that TNT is really playing good this Finals. Ohh I'm wrong, since the start of the Conference.
Yes, he is good. No doubt about that. And yes a big loss but not that big. SMB is the most complete team in the PBA that even their bench players are not trash.
This is also another factor why I said SMB may have been 3-1 up in my previous comment. TNT doesn't have enough in their team to compete with a complete SMB team. It's harder for TNT to maintain the pace of the game with limited option compared to SMB who has better option. [/quote]
SMB experience was evident in this game, they kept their composure after being down by as much as 16 points.
What a great comeback for SMB! I can't believe that they able to win this despite of the 16 point lead. SMB's momentum is the key factor which leads them to victory (plus Jones' misfortune . Congrats to them, they are now one step away from the trophy; but hoping we'll reach Game 7 tho. I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
For this game, I think it's down to SMB's experience and the fatigue of TNT's main man (Jones). Their (TNT) rotation is limited and the isolation plays for Jones in the last minute was probably a wrong move also since he was clearly exhausted.
I really can't accept this game 5.
Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).
I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
TNT fans spotted here. LolAlmost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import
, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
I think the defensive style of CS brought back the triumph for SMB here. Look out how his defense against mighty import Jones for the last minutes. The aggressiveness also of JMF helped them to stay closer for TNT at every quarters.
The strategy of TNT was decoded already and Kraken cracked their moment. Go for SMB.
But, I want to have a 3-3 match up so that until Game 7, we could not bet the right team who will get the championship.
I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
For this game, I think it's down to SMB's experience and the fatigue of TNT's main man (Jones). Their (TNT) rotation is limited and the isolation plays for Jones in the last minute was probably a wrong move also since he was clearly exhausted. 
I really can't accept this game 5.
Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).
I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
Almost 16 points are the advantage of TNT Katropa around 3rd Quarter. Omg. Really disappointed.
Btw, the momentum are already on the SMB right?
Maybe the only last chance for TNT katropa to win this championship will be the injury of the SMB's import
, just kidding.. (still breakeven my funds on sportsbet.io since this PBA season).I really can't understand this SMB, they are totally brutal on every second half of every game. They are much stronger if they are suffering to take lead.
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