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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2023, 02:13:49 AM

That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Cut that that spec thing... It's not gonna help us have fun while watching the game, yes rig do exist, don't speculate anymore, just believe it's happening.

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Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.

converge
DYIP
Bossing
ROS
NLEX

They are having a tour now, I think this game is played in Batangas, I just forgot the location when it was mentioned.
Currently it's a close game, but you know, 2nd half is the favorite period of Ginebra as they usually have good run on the finishing quarters.

Actually, it's quite funny, beacuse when it's played on their usual venue, only few people would attend, here, you can see lots fo people watching, it's like an MPBL feel.

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That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.

converge
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Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

SMB kinda lost in this game, their ball movement aren't very effective while the Northport are shooting lights out beyond the arc.

This is a big upset (I would say) because having no import is almost an automatic loss, here not on they won the game but they dominated the SMB.

It was surprising because SMB is a good team but they can't even make the game to be a close one. I don't know but I have a suspicion that they are rigging the game, especially the refs, seems like the calls were mostly favored the Northport and they even make CJ Perez in foul trouble, resulting for the coach to sit him early, and while CJ is on the bench, the flow of offense of the SMB is at a mess.

Marcio unable to find open shots, he could be a igniter if he had made his shots as they need a big run, overall, it was a very bad game for them, so they need to fix their system, and make adjustments while JMF is out.

Not a surprise to me reading comments like this, who may think that SMB will lose the game by that huge margin, knowing how deep their bench is and how good this team in terms of overtaking their opponents. Not so well from a fan perspective, I also like to say that the chance that the game was being rigged is inside me now.

Though that's how the game works, bad nights and bad executions result in a lost. Good for those who take NP, that's a sweet TGIF for sure!

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Quote from: Finestream on December 08, 2023, 09:54:10 AM

Quote from: Japinat on December 08, 2023, 09:24:52 AM

Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

SMB kinda lost in this game, their ball movement aren't very effective while the Northport are shooting lights out beyond the arc.

This is a big upset (I would say) because having no import is almost an automatic loss, here not on they won the game but they dominated the SMB.

It was surprising because SMB is a good team but they can't even make the game to be a close one. I don't know but I have a suspicion that they are rigging the game, especially the refs, seems like the calls were mostly favored the Northport and they even make CJ Perez in foul trouble, resulting for the coach to sit him early, and while CJ is on the bench, the flow of offense of the SMB is at a mess.

Marcio unable to find open shots, he could be a igniter if he had made his shots as they need a big run, overall, it was a very bad game for them, so they need to fix their system, and make adjustments while JMF is out.

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but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

This bet is looking good right now as the over/under live line is already 224.5. If they will be able to continue their good shooting, over is gonna hit easily, but there's a chance also that this game to go to OT since it's a very close game so far, so that's another factor to consider in case the scoring will slow down. Anyway, good luck, as I was saying, it's looking good right now.

It was looking good in the first 3 quarter but in the 4th quarter NLEX struggled to score resulting to the total to go under.

Let's look at the scoring by quarters.

1st - 53
2nd - 61
3rd - 54
4th - 46...

If they only scored at least 50 points, bet could have been won. Gams are really unpredictable, you can't make a conclusion while it's still ongoing.

The 4th quarter was a big disappointment, only 46? while they scored over 50+ points in the first 3 quarters?... This game could possibly go over if the game was a close one, unfortunately it didn't happen as ROS took over the 4th quarter and bring home a double digit win.

Quote from: Japinat on December 08, 2023, 09:24:52 AM

Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

SMB kinda lost in this game, their ball movement aren't very effective while the Northport are shooting lights out beyond the arc.

This is a big upset (I would say) because having no import is almost an automatic loss, here not on they won the game but they dominated the SMB.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 08, 2023, 07:45:41 AM

It seems like the Northport are playing without an import, but I'm surprise they're able to compete with the SMB and they are leading by 3 points now. There was no news regarding their import, so probably there are many gamblers who probably bet on Northport due to the high handicap.

Yes they are, they have opt to rest their import so they are playing importless against an SMB which are JMF less.

Quote from: Distinctin on December 08, 2023, 07:45:41 AM

I think it's still nice bet on the SMB now live as I think the 2nd half would be a different story, not sure if Northport would be able to carry the same energy they are giving now.

48-55 halftime score (in favor of Northport)

Suppose to be nice if they won that game but they loss. Final score is 115-101, SMB just having a bad game while their import isn't so dominating, unable to take advantage on the lack of size of Northport inside.

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It seems like the Northport are playing without an import, but I'm surprise they're able to compete with the SMB and they are leading by 3 points now. There was no news regarding their import, so probably there are many gamblers who probably bet on Northport due to the high handicap.

I think it's still nice bet on the SMB now live as I think the 2nd half would be a different story, not sure if Northport would be able to carry the same energy they are giving now.

48-55 halftime score (in favor of Northport)

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Quote from: Finestream on December 08, 2023, 04:29:36 AM

Quote from: Viscore on December 08, 2023, 03:35:20 AM

but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

This bet is looking good right now as the over/under live line is already 224.5. If they will be able to continue their good shooting, over is gonna hit easily, but there's a chance also that this game to go to OT since it's a very close game so far, so that's another factor to consider in case the scoring will slow down. Anyway, good luck, as I was saying, it's looking good right now.

It was looking good in the first 3 quarter but in the 4th quarter NLEX struggled to score resulting to the total to go under.

Let's look at the scoring by quarters.

1st - 53
2nd - 61
3rd - 54
4th - 46...

If they only scored at least 50 points, bet could have been won. Gams are really unpredictable, you can't make a conclusion while it's still ongoing.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 08, 2023, 03:35:20 AM

but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

This bet is looking good right now as the over/under live line is already 224.5. If they will be able to continue their good shooting, over is gonna hit easily, but there's a chance also that this game to go to OT since it's a very close game so far, so that's another factor to consider in case the scoring will slow down. Anyway, good luck, as I was saying, it's looking good right now.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 07, 2023, 03:32:06 PM

Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

Speaking of the Gin Kings and the Beermen, both have games tonight with Ginebra facing the Phoenix Fuel Masters while SMB Beermen will duel it out with NorthPort Batang Pier.

Ginebra Kings failed to cover the spread on their four consecutive games but i think this time around they will cover that thin spread.

^^ my bet for the first game but will also bet for the second game depending on the outcome of the first but i'm more inclined to bet for the Batang Pier as Fajardo's absence has a big impact on the team.

You might have bet early on the Ginebra San Miguel as they will not play today but tomorrow.

We only have two games today,

1s game - NLEX vs ROS (Currently playing now)
2nd game - SMB vs Northport.

I haven't made a decision yet regarding the 2nd game, but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

Thanks for the heads up kabayan, i just really thought that the game will be held today because they were what was shown in our local bookies. If that is the case then, our local bookies has not covered the game between NLEX and ROS as i have not seen the odds in the local bookies. My bad, thanks again kabayan.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 07, 2023, 03:32:06 PM

Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

Speaking of the Gin Kings and the Beermen, both have games tonight with Ginebra facing the Phoenix Fuel Masters while SMB Beermen will duel it out with NorthPort Batang Pier.

Ginebra Kings failed to cover the spread on their four consecutive games but i think this time around they will cover that thin spread.

^^ my bet for the first game but will also bet for the second game depending on the outcome of the first but i'm more inclined to bet for the Batang Pier as Fajardo's absence has a big impact on the team.

You might have bet early on the Ginebra San Miguel as they will not play today but tomorrow.

We only have two games today,

1s game - NLEX vs ROS (Currently playing now)
2nd game - SMB vs Northport.

I haven't made a decision yet regarding the 2nd game, but on the first game I had over 216.5 since I believe NLEX will shoot better as they badly need a win here. 2 straight losses with the new import, they need to stop that.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 07, 2023, 03:32:06 PM

Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

Speaking of the Gin Kings and the Beermen, both have games tonight with Ginebra facing the Phoenix Fuel Masters while SMB Beermen will duel it out with NorthPort Batang Pier.

Ginebra Kings failed to cover the spread on their four consecutive games but i think this time around they will cover that thin spread.

^^ my bet for the first game but will also bet for the second game depending on the outcome of the first but i'm more inclined to bet for the Batang Pier as Fajardo's absence has a big impact on the team.

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Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

Not yet time for the Magnolia Hotshots to lose a game. Blackwater couldn't keep up the pace of the Hotshots in the final quarter as they only scored 19 points while Magnolia has 35 in the quarter alone. Once again, their import, Tyler Bey has a monstrous game, tallying 26 points while grabbing 22 rebounds. Though too early to discuss as of now but i think Tyler Bey is the frontrunner as the best import in this conference for sure with the way how he lead his team to victories. RHJ might be a contender but with his team struggling as they are undermanned at the moment, that might keep him at bay on the second place.

Too early, but yes, his impact is great, and we can't deny that he might be the frontrunner as early as now, with the way the whole squad makes their plays and how everyone is helping with executing the system. It's a team effort that really gives them a clean records, though still far to conclude, but I hope they will not choke their way when advancing to the next round.

Gin kings and SMB are also doing great, though there are some struggles from the Brgy, but they still manage to win games.

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Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

Not yet time for the Magnolia Hotshots to lose a game. Blackwater couldn't keep up the pace of the Hotshots in the final quarter as they only scored 19 points while Magnolia has 35 in the quarter alone. Once again, their import, Tyler Bey has a monstrous game, tallying 26 points while grabbing 22 rebounds. Though too early to discuss as of now but i think Tyler Bey is the frontrunner as the best import in this conference for sure with the way how he lead his team to victories. RHJ might be a contender but with his team struggling as they are undermanned at the moment, that might keep him at bay on the second place.

That is an awesome performance for magnolia as they defend themselves for the current number 1 ranking in this season and yes they showed a great play but it's to early to say that they will be a champ cause one thing for sure in the quarter finals the true competition will come to them cause other team will build a good play for thier upcoming game so for now let's stay tuned and place our bet to the team we know that they can win. Anyways next game of magnolia is on Friday hope they still win.

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Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

Not yet time for the Magnolia Hotshots to lose a game. Blackwater couldn't keep up the pace of the Hotshots in the final quarter as they only scored 19 points while Magnolia has 35 in the quarter alone. Once again, their import, Tyler Bey has a monstrous game, tallying 26 points while grabbing 22 rebounds. Though too early to discuss as of now but i think Tyler Bey is the frontrunner as the best import in this conference for sure with the way how he lead his team to victories. RHJ might be a contender but with his team struggling as they are undermanned at the moment, that might keep him at bay on the second place.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 06, 2023, 09:12:39 AM

This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

The same thing they did on NLEX, they beat them on the 2nd half, this sone is worst as it only takes one quarter for them to route the Blackwater. It seems like Blackwater doesn't have the right characted to become a championship team, but the Magnolia is strong enough with their confidence that they can beat a team even down in the prior quarters and just win the last quarter.

I can say that they are the team to beat because in terms of consistentcy, they have all of it.

Magnolia could ===>> SMB, TNT, GINENBRA

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Speaking of betting, seems my bet on Converge is on the risk of losing as NorthPort's lead now balloons to 10 points with 9 minutes to go in the game, hope they can spark a run and win this one.

Yes, and it seems like Converge are enjoying their losing streak.

Those who bet on Converge hoping they'll win still has a chance to win back the losses or at least end the night with a win. As for the coming game, I have the Blackwater +11.5, the odds is 2.09, I took an extra 9%.. also hoping that Magnolia will slow down a bit, and give this game to Blackwater, or least let them cover.

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

The first three quarters do look good; Blackwater is still competing as they are only down by 5 points going into the 4th quarter. However, once they are in the 4th quarter, the offense of Blackwater disappeared as they were bothered by the pressure defense of Magnolia. This resulted in a lopsided win by Magnolia, outscoring Blackwater 19-35 in the 4th quarter alone.

Sorry, mate, you lost both the ML and the handicap.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 06, 2023, 07:21:41 AM

Quote from: Natalim on December 06, 2023, 06:21:37 AM

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

I'm watching this; I like your confidence, mate. This looks like a losing bet already on paper, but we never know. Magnolia is currently on a win streak, and losing against a weaker team isn't expected. So let's see how they'll play out this game tonight. Hopefully, refs would favor Blackwater so those who are brave enough to take this kind of bet would be happy, like you.

Close in this early first half, not sure if Blackwater will sustain that energy or they will be left behind after this, Magnolia is really a team to beat in this season, though we already seen them like this and after that they will miss the finals, hopefully they will continue their dominance and they will manage to win another title, still too early for that I guess let's go back to this current live event, good luck to whoever that takes that big risk choosing Blackwater's ML.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 06, 2023, 06:21:37 AM

I'm going nuts as well Blackwater ML at 6.30. Let's try our luck here.

I'm watching this; I like your confidence, mate. This looks like a losing bet already on paper, but we never know. Magnolia is currently on a win streak, and losing against a weaker team isn't expected. So let's see how they'll play out this game tonight. Hopefully, refs would favor Blackwater so those who are brave enough to take this kind of bet would be happy, like you.

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Quote from: arwin100 on December 06, 2023, 04:51:13 AM

Because PBA management doesn't want this two big companies to pull out in their league since if that gonna happen then for sure this will be the end of PBA. That's why the trade will always go in favor with their teams and any other opposing team like those independent one cannot do anything since they are more dominant than them.

I also got bored watching PBA at the moment especially when watching those independent teams playing since we don't feel any excitement with them anymore. And I'm sure to many people also got bored because they already know which team will go to finals, that's why we see a huge decline for their viewership especially on live games. If they don't change on how they manage the league for sure people will lose interest more with them.

It is what it is, I mean, PBA would not change soon because those who control the league have a deep pocket that they get whatever they want, and also money is the reason why this PBA still exists as they can afford to pay high caliber players on how much they want. I don't with the other but personally i'm not bored watching the PBA as i'm more interested on the betting side of it hehe.

Yeah can't expect anything with them since PBA is monopolized by these big businesses that's why its expected that even PBA head officials cannot do anything since the words given by big bosses is much stronger than anyone else. So I guess nothing will happen hear since other players also don't want to play on small market team since they know the team can't pay them on what they demand.

That's the reason if I want to bet I only watch those recap given by vloggers posting some good contents about what happen on particular games. I lose interest to watch them on regular season since its boring. Only watching them when playoffs time or even in finals.

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