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I think, Argentina group is very hard to others group. I think, any two team can be qualify next round. Mexico, Poland and Saudia Arabia very strong team.But Argentina played very well their last many matches.I think they can be qualify for next round. They have some good player and they are top form in. Waiting for what happen exactly. What do you think? Who can qualify group C for next round?

Argentida should pass first in the group, without major difficulties.
Saudi Arabia should be in last place. It can even try to make life difficult for the other teams, but I don't think it will go forward.
Thus, the second place in the group will be disputed by Mexico and Poland. I think Polonia has better arguments to be in second place, but I think Mexico will be playing very well and have a great chance of being able to overtake Poland.
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The 2022 world cup will soon take place, group E will be populated by Germany, Spain, Costa Rica and Japan, it can be said that Spain and Germany are countries that have won the world cup title, while Costa Rica and Japan are only complements in group E, it is certain Germany and Spain qualify for the next round. According to my prediction, Germany will come out as group winner this year, while Spain will be the runner-up in Group E.
Germany looks good in your eyes to come top of that group but remember Spain is a very strong team and Japan too have been a strong team appearing in world cup seven times and the first being in 1998 although they did badly that year but they have also grown with experience. Costa Rica too have appeared at the world cup five times, so I think despite that Germany looks good but the teams there are not just fresh or new countries to the world cup, anything can happen. If Germany is eliminated from the group stage, it won't be the first time obviously.
I do believe that Spain could be good, or Japan could be good which I doubt, but Germany is not just good, they are also very good at playing together as well. Most national teams do not play that well, they usually end up losing because they lack chemistry and that is the main problem for most of them, however Germany doesn't have that. They built a great system and that usually ends with them being better and better each year.

Even if some players are replaced by younger generation, since the system is there already and everyone is used to it, that rarely becomes a problem. Other national teams usually do not have that kind of chemistry in general.

I agree, Germany has had a very successful national team for the last 10-12 years. As you said, there is a good system and new players are also included in this system, there is a very good order and success comes with this order.
In other countries, we see a constantly changing team, both players and coaches change, and each coach tries something new Smiley
Tactical discipline is what Germany does best. Discipline is very important in football. Each player is assigned a role, and the Germans apply this very successfully in the national team. Of course, this is no coincidence. This is the result of an education from years ago. This discipline is one of the reasons why Germany is regarded as a full tournament team.
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I think, Argentina group is very hard to others group. I think, any two team can be qualify next round. Mexico, Poland and Saudia Arabia very strong team.But Argentina played very well their last many matches.I think they can be qualify for next round. They have some good player and they are top form in. Waiting for what happen exactly. What do you think? Who can qualify group C for next round?
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I think Spain and Germany are on the same level internationally, but Japan is below the level of Germany and Spain. Japan is always impressive, but if you are in European countries, you are certainly below it. Japan is very strong when they are in Asian countries. And on average, German and Spanish players play in big clubs in the world, while Japan currently doesn't have any players playing in big clubs.
Most of the peoples feeling Japan is no competition for Germany and Spain may be it is right but still in last few years few Asian countries are working hard for improving their quality in soccer and Japan is one of these countries as now they have very strong league and few players are joining European Leagues which giving them some good technique and experience for having better quality.

German and Spanish players are enjoying with their best system and long tradition in soccer which is very helpful for them all, but surely in next few years these Asian teams could be more experienced and better in quality which will give them some better respect in soccer community.

Currently, Japan has no chance for going into next round in presence of Germany and Spain because these are much superior.
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Maybe there are a lot of bettors in Japan and bookmakers setting up such quotes only balance the bets so as not to take risks? That 20% potential profit really looks like a gift. In '18, '10 and '02, Japan advanced from the group to the playoffs, but those were much weaker groups. Most likely, this odds does not reflect the ability of Japan, but the possibility that Spain or Germany will fail.

Oh.. OK. Got it.

Sometimes I forget the fact that betting odds also take in to account the volume of bets being wagered for the teams. In this case, Japanese fans are heavily betting in favor of Japan qualifying to the second round, and the sportsbooks have lowered the odds to reduce their risk (in case of the unlikely event that Japan kicks either Germany or Spain out of the world cup). In that case, the 1.20x on Japan not qualifying to the second round looks extremely attractive for me. Guys, this is the ideal opportunity to get some easy profits. I will be making a bet on this.
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World Cup 2022 - To Qualify from Group E - Japan

No 1,20

Yes 4,25

In this situation, I completely agree with the bookmakers (and even consider that 1.2 is easy money if you bet that Japan will not be able to get into the playoffs). For comparison, the odds of Spain and Germany are quoted as 1.11 and 1.16 respectively. Anything happens (sometimes) but relying on Japan when there are Spain and Germany in the group is irrational.

LOL.. I think that 4.25 is still heavily over-predicting their chances. I don't have anything against the Asian teams (being an Asian myself). But in terms of capability, they are no way near the UEFA or CONMEBOL teams. Japan may be one of the strongest teams in Asia, but they stand no chance against Spain or Germany. Given all this, the odds should be in the 10-12 range, in order to attract at least some interest from the gamblers. At 4.25, it is not worth taking the risk. On the other hand, 1.20 odds for not qualifying looks OK for me.

Maybe there are a lot of bettors in Japan and bookmakers setting up such quotes only balance the bets so as not to take risks? That 20% potential profit really looks like a gift. In '18, '10 and '02, Japan advanced from the group to the playoffs, but those were much weaker groups. Most likely, this odds does not reflect the ability of Japan, but the possibility that Spain or Germany will fail.
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I’m not really sure Germany is better than Spain.
In recent competitions, it was seen that Germany is playing very well, but that they lack realization in attack, a real and effective striker.
They lack a real and effective striker like Lewandowski.
I think that Spain has an advantage here and that they have a wider range of quality players.
Japan has been good at every World Cup but they always lack something, and in the end they always lose key matches.

It's true about Japan but I don't think that its "additional" will arrive soon, which additional? well that special "flow" that makes you win world cups.

BTW Spain came to be in the same situation as Japan, always lacking, Spain is a successful team in this 21st century, but if one remembers...before that it was disappointing, but now it is a team to consider always and always will be, but not more than Germany.   Smiley
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@Sithara007 Spain & Germany can be said favourites for sure, but over the year’s both teams have dropped their high standards, and if they wish to qualify for the next round then they’ll have to play like they used to before and only then they’ll be able to qualify. Also I’m expecting an upset in this group as I expect Germany and Spain to drop points, so when the tournament starters be careful because they both will definitely be dropping points.
I think that true with Spain and Germany lead on Group E but looks have potential for Germany will lead as 1st standing group, I think Spain is not enough potential on World Cup actually faced crucial central forward, except Alvaro Morata Spain not have any option central forward player and different with Germany have several option on central forward. But still speculative because Japan some time could make change result match and have potential between Germany and Japan will lead to next stage on E group.

Group E indeed attracted the most people's attention, because this could be said to be a hell group. There are two strong European teams who are
members of Group E, Germany and Spain have to compete for the first place so that in the next round they do not face another group winner.
I agree with you, it seems that Germany is more favorite to win Group E, because Germany has a slightly better front line than Spain. Then regarding
Japan's chances in Group E, it looks like it could be a surprising team, because many Japanese national team players play in European clubs so they
are familiar with the Spanish and German games. Moreover, Japanese players are usually having high determination and not giving up easily even
though the opponents they face are much stronger. So indeed Spain and Germany have to be careful when facing Japan. But if Japan qualify for
the next round I'm not sure, it's likely that Japan just made a change to the leader of group E, by making either Germany or Spain drop points.



I’m not really sure Germany is better than Spain.
In recent competitions, it was seen that Germany is playing very well, but that they lack realization in attack, a real and effective striker.
They lack a real and effective striker like Lewandowski.
I think that Spain has an advantage here and that they have a wider range of quality players.
Japan has been good at every World Cup but they always lack something, and in the end they always lose key matches.
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The 2022 world cup will soon take place, group E will be populated by Germany, Spain, Costa Rica and Japan, it can be said that Spain and Germany are countries that have won the world cup title, while Costa Rica and Japan are only complements in group E, it is certain Germany and Spain qualify for the next round. According to my prediction, Germany will come out as group winner this year, while Spain will be the runner-up in Group E.
Germany looks good in your eyes to come top of that group but remember Spain is a very strong team and Japan too have been a strong team appearing in world cup seven times and the first being in 1998 although they did badly that year but they have also grown with experience. Costa Rica too have appeared at the world cup five times, so I think despite that Germany looks good but the teams there are not just fresh or new countries to the world cup, anything can happen. If Germany is eliminated from the group stage, it won't be the first time obviously.
I do believe that Spain could be good, or Japan could be good which I doubt, but Germany is not just good, they are also very good at playing together as well. Most national teams do not play that well, they usually end up losing because they lack chemistry and that is the main problem for most of them, however Germany doesn't have that. They built a great system and that usually ends with them being better and better each year.

Even if some players are replaced by younger generation, since the system is there already and everyone is used to it, that rarely becomes a problem. Other national teams usually do not have that kind of chemistry in general.

I agree, Germany has had a very successful national team for the last 10-12 years. As you said, there is a good system and new players are also included in this system, there is a very good order and success comes with this order.
In other countries, we see a constantly changing team, both players and coaches change, and each coach tries something new Smiley
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Everyone seems to be concerned about Spain and Germany but the truth is Japan is a great footballing country; they will likely cause an upset in group E and I won't be surprised if they go through. Everything is going to be clumsy if the first games in that group ends in draws; I don't think Spain is as strong as Germany though but anything can happen.

World Cup 2022 - To Qualify from Group E - Japan

No 1,20

Yes 4,25

In this situation, I completely agree with the bookmakers (and even consider that 1.2 is easy money if you bet that Japan will not be able to get into the playoffs). For comparison, the odds of Spain and Germany are quoted as 1.11 and 1.16 respectively. Anything happens (sometimes) but relying on Japan when there are Spain and Germany in the group is irrational.

LOL.. I think that 4.25 is still heavily over-predicting their chances. I don't have anything against the Asian teams (being an Asian myself). But in terms of capability, they are no way near the UEFA or CONMEBOL teams. Japan may be one of the strongest teams in Asia, but they stand no chance against Spain or Germany. Given all this, the odds should be in the 10-12 range, in order to attract at least some interest from the gamblers. At 4.25, it is not worth taking the risk. On the other hand, 1.20 odds for not qualifying looks OK for me.
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Every football fan can attest to the fact that Brazil is the best country in football both historically and even at present, there is no one greater than them. In that world cup group, Brazil is easily the favorite, Serbia is a little stronger than Switzerland but I would favor Cameroon because they are a more physical side and plays intense football.
Cameroon has an advantage in terms of stamina, they can take advantage of this against other teams in the same group, because after all stamina has an influence in a match, but today's football style no longer relies on stamina alone, football's style of play must now be combined between physical, the skills and intelligence of the coach, if they only rely on physicality, it is feared that they will have difficulty facing a club that plays a short passing style, Cameroon has a chance compared to Serbia and Switzerland.
Considering the games in the group stages will be close to each other (can't remember now, was it like once every 3 days or 4 days or something?) and that means teams will be tired by the time group stage is over and maybe the first game will be easy, and second one not so hard but third one will be hard.

Cameroon could use that stamina for exactly that reason but when it comes to actual elimination phase I do not see them as a possible candidate to go for too further. Brazil is the only one, and if that happens to be a good draw, like if they face big teams back to back, then it could become harder for them as well. I still think even Brazil won't win it.
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@Sithara007 Spain & Germany can be said favourites for sure, but over the year’s both teams have dropped their high standards, and if they wish to qualify for the next round then they’ll have to play like they used to before and only then they’ll be able to qualify. Also I’m expecting an upset in this group as I expect Germany and Spain to drop points, so when the tournament starters be careful because they both will definitely be dropping points.
I think that true with Spain and Germany lead on Group E but looks have potential for Germany will lead as 1st standing group, I think Spain is not enough potential on World Cup actually faced crucial central forward, except Alvaro Morata Spain not have any option central forward player and different with Germany have several option on central forward. But still speculative because Japan some time could make change result match and have potential between Germany and Japan will lead to next stage on E group.

Group E indeed attracted the most people's attention, because this could be said to be a hell group. There are two strong European teams who are
members of Group E, Germany and Spain have to compete for the first place so that in the next round they do not face another group winner.
I agree with you, it seems that Germany is more favorite to win Group E, because Germany has a slightly better front line than Spain. Then regarding
Japan's chances in Group E, it looks like it could be a surprising team, because many Japanese national team players play in European clubs so they
are familiar with the Spanish and German games. Moreover, Japanese players are usually having high determination and not giving up easily even
though the opponents they face are much stronger. So indeed Spain and Germany have to be careful when facing Japan. But if Japan qualify for
the next round I'm not sure, it's likely that Japan just made a change to the leader of group E, by making either Germany or Spain drop points.


Clearly, most football fans don't know Japan are no pushovers. They have never been! Over the years, in previous worldcup they've always been a tough opponent to any team. Again, Spain and Germany are easily the overall tournament favorites of many football neutrals and moreso, they are just interested to see them face off in the group not factoring in Japan.
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Every football fan can attest to the fact that Brazil is the best country in football both historically and even at present, there is no one greater than them. In that world cup group, Brazil is easily the favorite, Serbia is a little stronger than Switzerland but I would favor Cameroon because they are a more physical side and plays intense football.
Cameroon has an advantage in terms of stamina, they can take advantage of this against other teams in the same group, because after all stamina has an influence in a match, but today's football style no longer relies on stamina alone, football's style of play must now be combined between physical, the skills and intelligence of the coach, if they only rely on physicality, it is feared that they will have difficulty facing a club that plays a short passing style, Cameroon has a chance compared to Serbia and Switzerland.

I'm tipping on Brazil and Cameroon to come out from that group. We already know that Brazil is suppose to lead the group and the second team is what will be contested, the Serbia and Switzerland team are not very much a threat to over run Cameroon. So maybe Cameroon will go all out with African stamina and strength. I hope Samuel ETO will still be their coach.
when compared with strength, maybe Cameroon has more advantages than Switzerland or Serbia, but both of them also cannot be easy opponents, because the current style of play almost all clubs have their respective strengths, of course Brazil is very easy to rank first in the standings , which is Cameroon's target will take second place

In times of globalization, no "traditional" styles of play or those that are very different from the mainstream can exist (or, let's say, give results). Most of the players taking part in the World Championship play in Europe and after the group stage from the playoff stage to the stage this percentage will only increase. All teams actually play about the same football, but due to the very different composition of performers they choose different strategies and undoubtedly Brazil is one of those teams that can choose any strategy because they have a great selection of players.
The traditional style of play does not look at skill, but rather to team strength and physical strength, now this pattern of play has long been abandoned, nowadays many players have individual qualities, making it easier to integrate into a team, even though the player's ego is bigger and want to play prominently, but if the coach can suppress it, then we can be sure that the style of play will be more attractive and classy
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Everyone seems to be concerned about Spain and Germany but the truth is Japan is a great footballing country; they will likely cause an upset in group E and I won't be surprised if they go through. Everything is going to be clumsy if the first games in that group ends in draws; I don't think Spain is as strong as Germany though but anything can happen.

World Cup 2022 - To Qualify from Group E - Japan

No 1,20

Yes 4,25

In this situation, I completely agree with the bookmakers (and even consider that 1.2 is easy money if you bet that Japan will not be able to get into the playoffs). For comparison, the odds of Spain and Germany are quoted as 1.11 and 1.16 respectively. Anything happens (sometimes) but relying on Japan when there are Spain and Germany in the group is irrational.
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Am sure of Ghana making it to the FIFA world cup qualifiers round as their defeated Nigeria in the last match with the home advantage since Nigeria was home, but in truth am stock between which country will carry the fifa trophy this round between Spain and Japan those two countries have performed significantly well in the previous world cup.
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It bother me seeing some countries not qualifying while some I expected not to perform well do make it up, though this is football game and its unpredictable but taking a look at Africa as a whole, a country like Nigeria shouldn't have messed up this golden opportunity to qualify but their loss to Ghana who has been deformed on several occasions is heartbreaking and by now they would have known were their lapses are. This year UEFA world cup in Qatar will be an eye opener for so many countries to sit up and play the real football game in the nearest future.


I don't think there will be any significant surprises from the African continent team after we know the 5 teams that made it through to the Qatar world cup finals this year, maybe only Senegal are seeded to qualify for the next stage even though they have us to advance through the play-offs after eliminating Egypt went through a penalty shootout.considering the strength of Ghana Cameroon Tunisia and Morocco maybe they only stuck in the group stage
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The 2022 world cup will soon take place, group E will be populated by Germany, Spain, Costa Rica and Japan, it can be said that Spain and Germany are countries that have won the world cup title, while Costa Rica and Japan are only complements in group E, it is certain Germany and Spain qualify for the next round. According to my prediction, Germany will come out as group winner this year, while Spain will be the runner-up in Group E.
Everyone seems to be concerned about Spain and Germany but the truth is Japan is a great footballing country; they will likely cause an upset in group E and I won't be surprised if they go through. Everything is going to be clumsy if the first games in that group ends in draws; I don't think Spain is as strong as Germany though but anything can happen.
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Then regarding Japan's chances in Group E, it looks like it could be a surprising team, because many Japanese national team players play in European clubs so they
are familiar with the Spanish and German games.
Japan shouldn't be underestimated, but I don't think their chances are very big to reach the next round. The 4th member of the group will be very likely Costa Rica, a team which is on about a similar level with Japan. For Japan to qualify they need to beat Costa Rica and one of the two: Spain or Germany.
On paper, Spain and Germany are strong teams, but both somewhat inconsistent lately. In a friendly game German lost 0-6 against Spain not too long ago. Germany was eliminated in the group stage of the last world cup after a loss against South Korea (which probably have a similar playstyle to Japan)
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@Sithara007 Spain & Germany can be said favourites for sure, but over the year’s both teams have dropped their high standards, and if they wish to qualify for the next round then they’ll have to play like they used to before and only then they’ll be able to qualify. Also I’m expecting an upset in this group as I expect Germany and Spain to drop points, so when the tournament starters be careful because they both will definitely be dropping points.
I think that true with Spain and Germany lead on Group E but looks have potential for Germany will lead as 1st standing group, I think Spain is not enough potential on World Cup actually faced crucial central forward, except Alvaro Morata Spain not have any option central forward player and different with Germany have several option on central forward. But still speculative because Japan some time could make change result match and have potential between Germany and Japan will lead to next stage on E group.

Group E indeed attracted the most people's attention, because this could be said to be a hell group. There are two strong European teams who are
members of Group E, Germany and Spain have to compete for the first place so that in the next round they do not face another group winner.
I agree with you, it seems that Germany is more favorite to win Group E, because Germany has a slightly better front line than Spain. Then regarding
Japan's chances in Group E, it looks like it could be a surprising team, because many Japanese national team players play in European clubs so they
are familiar with the Spanish and German games. Moreover, Japanese players are usually having high determination and not giving up easily even
though the opponents they face are much stronger. So indeed Spain and Germany have to be careful when facing Japan. But if Japan qualify for
the next round I'm not sure, it's likely that Japan just made a change to the leader of group E, by making either Germany or Spain drop points.

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I was just checking if it's already possible to bet on the games and swa the quotes for Switzerland vs Cameroon: 1.75/3.5/5.0
So the bookmakers expect a win of Switzerland by more than 50%. If Cameroon loses only 1 game against Switzerland and Serbia, they won't be able to reach the 2nd rank.

I do wonder if the climate will play a part. It's quite extreme, and not really what we're used to in a world cup. I know of course that as a concession to the climate, it's being played in what passes for the winter... but still, it's quite possible that teams from colder nations might struggle more than we'd expect. More from a style-of-play perspective than anything else - England for example is a fairly cold country and the premier league is often played at quite a frenetic pace, which might not suit the English players in Qatar. I do think we might see some big surprises. I'd be half-tempted to bet on Cameroon to beat the Swiss.

Well to be honest Cameroon should not win against Switzerland because obviously Switzerland is a better team and should be the winners against Cameroon.

And the climate can obviously play a part. for the teams who are not adaptable in such situations will obviously face problems. Often players get sick and also not be 100% to play when there are drastic changes in the weather. But I still think that Switzerland should be the winner in this match. and even if they do end up losing, I think it is going to be not solely because of the weather.
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