2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 118.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on April 04, 2022, 04:50:47 PM

We really don't know what will happen, usually the world cup is full of surprises it could be that the favorite team loses like what happened in Italy in the qualifiers
The football is so wide that the ball can roll in any direction no one can guess for sure, I believe Portugal can still be relied on even though it's not the best
They have some great players, even without Ronaldo they are still very dangerous.

You are right no one can predict about result of this World Cup as mostly we have surprises in these events and any team can eliminate from event in early matches which already happened many times with Bookmakers mostly have their own favorites like Germany, Brazil and France which are seasoned teams and mostly performed good.

Cristiano Ronaldo is playing his last mega event so people's feeling he can do something which is possible, but he alone can't do any big thing without big support from his other players, and currently they have some good support in middle and defense as well, so it's going to be very exciting for them but still I am having my own few favorites and these are Brazil and Germany as these teams are capable to adopt all conditions very quickly instead of other teams those take time and lost in crucial time.

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Quote from: muratsink on April 04, 2022, 03:58:52 PM

I also feel that Portugal is not the favorite team to win in Qatar next November even though they are reinforced by star player Cristiano Ronaldo, but Portugal is not a team with a winning mentality.especially when the national teams are so tough competitors like France, Germany and Brazil are favorites to win the world cup title.let alone Portugal will qualify for Qatar this season and have to go through the play-offs maybe Portugal can get stuck in the quarter-finals or the round of 16

We really don't know what will happen, usually the world cup is full of surprises it could be that the favorite team loses like what happened in Italy in the qualifiers
The football is so wide that the ball can roll in any direction no one can guess for sure, I believe Portugal can still be relied on even though it's not the best
They have some great players, even without Ronaldo they are still very dangerous.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 04, 2022, 01:46:08 PM

In my opinion, Fernando Santos is one of the smartest modern national team coaches. With a team that is not the strongest in terms of composition, he won two titles (the European Championship and the League of Nations) and consistently shows good results. He prefers "reliable" game schemes and this is quite understandable - Portugal beats "light" opponents one way or another, but the team's main competitors are much stronger and you have to use tactical tricks to beat them. I don't understand how you can blame him for bad style of play. He chooses his formation for each match with a strong opponent individually and mostly he succeeds. But we cannot demand that he consistently beat France, Brazil, Germany, etc.

But I'm not expecting him to always beat France, Brazil or Germany. If I lose against these countries I will understand and accept naturally.

But for the range of players that Portugal has, it cannot be accepted that they lose with Serbia or draw with the Republic of Ireland. It's not that these teams don't have quality, of course they do. But the Portuguese team is frankly better.

The problem that often occurs in Portugal is the influence that some clubs and some players' agents have on the football federation. Making good players sometimes not called up or not playing, and then you see players who are not having good performances starting. It's one thing to lose and play well, it's another to play poorly and lose games that clearly should be won.

But it's true, we're at the World Cup in Qatar, and no matter how much criticism or less if you like the style of play, you've managed to overcome the obstacles. I'm glad of course, but I think they could be a little better, that's all. Wink

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It would be really a great achievement for Ronaldo to end his national career by winning a World Cup indeed. But I just think that Portugal are a sad case about that for now. During the qualifiers phase, I didn't like Portugal's performance at all. They don't seem to be one of the favourites for this title. However there is no rule like the favourite teams always win of course. But my favourite team for this title are absolutely Brazil. They have been incredible so far. I don't see any European team better than them for now. France might be the closest.

I don't think with Portugal as favorite national country will winning FIFA World Cup on Qatar trough pass trough play off round, I think most dominance between France or Germany. I don't see with Cristiano Ronaldo effect on Portugal because he was over performance with his club Manchester United. I think national country not depending with individual player and Portugal not have enough good player for starting eleven, maybe Germany have completed player and become candidate as the champion of World Cup Qatar beside still have France as another favorite national country.

I also feel that Portugal is not the favorite team to win in Qatar next November even though they are reinforced by star player Cristiano Ronaldo, but Portugal is not a team with a winning mentality.especially when the national teams are so tough competitors like France, Germany and Brazil are favorites to win the world cup title.let alone Portugal will qualify for Qatar this season and have to go through the play-offs maybe Portugal can get stuck in the quarter-finals or the round of 16

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 05:36:20 PM

It would be really a great achievement for Ronaldo to end his national career by winning a World Cup indeed. But I just think that Portugal are a sad case about that for now. During the qualifiers phase, I didn't like Portugal's performance at all. They don't seem to be one of the favourites for this title. However there is no rule like the favourite teams always win of course. But my favourite team for this title are absolutely Brazil. They have been incredible so far. I don't see any European team better than them for now. France might be the closest.

I don't think with Portugal as favorite national country will winning FIFA World Cup on Qatar trough pass trough play off round, I think most dominance between France or Germany. I don't see with Cristiano Ronaldo effect on Portugal because he was over performance with his club Manchester United. I think national country not depending with individual player and Portugal not have enough good player for starting eleven, maybe Germany have completed player and become candidate as the champion of World Cup Qatar beside still have France as another favorite national country.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 04, 2022, 01:28:05 PM

What I can say as Portuguese, is that his strategy is no longer well seen among the fans. Of course, if you win, people change their opinion, but nowadays nobody believes that the team will go far.

Why? Well, we've all noticed that he plays "dear" players, when they are no longer better players. Then, put the team to play in a style that only promotes a draw or a victory by the minimum score. A team that has the best defenders, the best midfielders and one of the best forwards, cannot limit itself to playing in a style of waiting for what will happen.

Of course, if all goes well, it will be well seen. But it doesn't have a lively style of play for a team with such good players.

In my opinion, Fernando Santos is one of the smartest modern national team coaches. With a team that is not the strongest in terms of composition, he won two titles (the European Championship and the League of Nations) and consistently shows good results. He prefers "reliable" game schemes and this is quite understandable - Portugal beats "light" opponents one way or another, but the team's main competitors are much stronger and you have to use tactical tricks to beat them. I don't understand how you can blame him for bad style of play. He chooses his formation for each match with a strong opponent individually and mostly he succeeds. But we cannot demand that he consistently beat France, Brazil, Germany, etc.

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Quote from: Polkeins on April 04, 2022, 08:24:07 AM

Why is the coach a problem in the case of the Portuguese national team? In general, with him, Portugal won the European Championship in 2016, constantly enters all qualifying tournaments and then leaves the group and reaches the last stages. Right now they are playing, even if not always interesting, but stable and can finish off any opponent. A very unpleasant team, with almost no weaknesses.

What I can say as Portuguese, is that his strategy is no longer well seen among the fans. Of course, if you win, people change their opinion, but nowadays nobody believes that the team will go far.

Why? Well, we've all noticed that he plays "dear" players, when they are no longer better players. Then, put the team to play in a style that only promotes a draw or a victory by the minimum score. A team that has the best defenders, the best midfielders and one of the best forwards, cannot limit itself to playing in a style of waiting for what will happen.

Of course, if all goes well, it will be well seen. But it doesn't have a lively style of play for a team with such good players.

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Quote from: Polkeins on April 04, 2022, 08:24:07 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on April 04, 2022, 04:21:12 AM

Portugal problem is the coach, because in terms of players there should even be a greater probability.
I don't see Portugal winning the World Cup either, unfortunately, but it's a real possibility given the quality of the players in question.

I believe that Brazil has a great probability, but continued to think that England will be the main candidate for victory.

Why is the coach a problem in the case of the Portuguese national team? In general, with him, Portugal won the European Championship in 2016, constantly enters all qualifying tournaments and then leaves the group and reaches the last stages. Right now they are playing, even if not always interesting, but stable and can finish off any opponent. A very unpleasant team, with almost no weaknesses.

Apart from that I think the reasons about the coach are also quite reasonable. Fernando Santos is a person who is not very strong in terms of leadership in terms of coaching, in my opinion, the strategy he uses is not too good and sometimes the strategy is too old. on the other hand he is also still quite lost to the players. For example, when Portugal won the Euros because there he was more silent and lost to Ronaldo, especially in terms of instructions

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Quote from: alegotardo on April 03, 2022, 05:15:17 PM

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one more please!
This is the last World Cup for Ronaldo and it would be good if Portugal achieved something at the World Cup with him.
As for the fact that Portugal is playing a draw and this is supposedly bad - I do not agree. If the team at least draws, then no one is stronger Cool

For example, in the semi-final of the 2012 European Championship, Portugal lost only in the lottery to the future champions - Spain. If you look objectively, then Portugal is consistently good.

I believe that Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't be able to lift that cup.
I believe that Portugal can at most reach the quarter-finals, but that's too much to expect from a team that barely managed to qualify for the World Cup.

However, I've been taking a look at futscience.com and I've noticed that they point to Portugal as having "some chance" of winning the Fifa world cup...
Brazil has a 15.2% probability of winning, England and France have 12.8%; Spain, 9.3%; Germany, 7% and Portugal, 6.4%.

Maybe!?

Why not? Of course I don't believe in it (although I would like it to happen), but these are national teams and not a round robin but knockout matches with only one game (not a home game - away game). In this format, each team has a chance against any other. The most difficult (for Portugal) will be the group stage - all teams are about equal in strength and I think that everyone will try to play against Portugal as the second number, which may not be very convenient for their sharp attack.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 04, 2022, 05:33:28 AM

Personally, I think Portugal and especially Ronaldo reached their peak at the last World Cup 2018.
In these World Cup qualifiers, it was clear that Portugal was no longer so dominant, and they even lost in the fight for first place in their qualifying group to Serbia at home.
Ronaldo is also no longer as dominant a player as he was a few years ago.
Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years so I don’t understand what kind of experience we are talking about here.
For me personally, Brazil is not the main favorite for the title but France and Spain.

Sure, Ronaldo is aging, but he can still be a huge factor, especially in a tournament like this. Portugal was beaten by Serbia in the qualification, but it was a close race for the top, it could have ended the other way easily.

Looking at the current odds, bookmakers have Brazil @6.0 and then France and England at @6.5, so this is a ~40% chance that one of those 3 will get the title.

Brazil will be my choice even though the odd given to Brazil is small it call for great concern because of the Ronaldo fracture this and many more other things to consider before betting

I will put my bet on Portugal - they have amazing team and they have an amazing spirit.
But Brazil is also a good option to bet on. As mentioned above Ronaldo is again but his son will be ready to enter the field so we will a young Ronaldo in coming days.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 04, 2022, 04:21:12 AM

Quote from: alegotardo on April 03, 2022, 05:15:17 PM

I believe that Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't be able to lift that cup.
I believe that Portugal can at most reach the quarter-finals, but that's too much to expect from a team that barely managed to qualify for the World Cup.

However, I've been taking a look at futscience.com and I've noticed that they point to Portugal as having "some chance" of winning the Fifa world cup...
Brazil has a 15.2% probability of winning, England and France have 12.8%; Spain, 9.3%; Germany, 7% and Portugal, 6.4%.

Maybe!?

Portugal problem is the coach, because in terms of players there should even be a greater probability.
I don't see Portugal winning the World Cup either, unfortunately, but it's a real possibility given the quality of the players in question.

I believe that Brazil has a great probability, but continued to think that England will be the main candidate for victory.

Why is the coach a problem in the case of the Portuguese national team? In general, with him, Portugal won the European Championship in 2016, constantly enters all qualifying tournaments and then leaves the group and reaches the last stages. Right now they are playing, even if not always interesting, but stable and can finish off any opponent. A very unpleasant team, with almost no weaknesses.

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Quote from: coco23 on April 04, 2022, 05:58:28 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on April 04, 2022, 05:33:28 AM

Personally, I think Portugal and especially Ronaldo reached their peak at the last World Cup 2018.
In these World Cup qualifiers, it was clear that Portugal was no longer so dominant, and they even lost in the fight for first place in their qualifying group to Serbia at home.
Ronaldo is also no longer as dominant a player as he was a few years ago.
Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years so I don’t understand what kind of experience we are talking about here.
For me personally, Brazil is not the main favorite for the title but France and Spain.

Sure, Ronaldo is aging, but he can still be a huge factor, especially in a tournament like this. Portugal was beaten by Serbia in the qualification, but it was a close race for the top, it could have ended the other way easily.

Looking at the current odds, bookmakers have Brazil @6.0 and then France and England at @6.5, so this is a ~40% chance that one of those 3 will get the title.

Brazil will be my choice even though the odd given to Brazil is small it call for great concern because of the Ronaldo fracture this and many more other things to consider before betting

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 04, 2022, 05:33:28 AM

Personally, I think Portugal and especially Ronaldo reached their peak at the last World Cup 2018.
In these World Cup qualifiers, it was clear that Portugal was no longer so dominant, and they even lost in the fight for first place in their qualifying group to Serbia at home.
Ronaldo is also no longer as dominant a player as he was a few years ago.
Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years so I don’t understand what kind of experience we are talking about here.
For me personally, Brazil is not the main favorite for the title but France and Spain.

Sure, Ronaldo is aging, but he can still be a huge factor, especially in a tournament like this. Portugal was beaten by Serbia in the qualification, but it was a close race for the top, it could have ended the other way easily.

Looking at the current odds, bookmakers have Brazil @6.0 and then France and England at @6.5, so this is a ~40% chance that one of those 3 will get the title.

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Quote from: alegotardo on April 03, 2022, 05:15:17 PM

I believe that Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't be able to lift that cup.
I believe that Portugal can at most reach the quarter-finals, but that's too much to expect from a team that barely managed to qualify for the World Cup.

However, I've been taking a look at futscience.com and I've noticed that they point to Portugal as having "some chance" of winning the Fifa world cup...
Brazil has a 15.2% probability of winning, England and France have 12.8%; Spain, 9.3%; Germany, 7% and Portugal, 6.4%.

Maybe!?

Portugal problem is the coach, because in terms of players there should even be a greater probability.
I don't see Portugal winning the World Cup either, unfortunately, but it's a real possibility given the quality of the players in question.

I believe that Brazil has a great probability, but continued to think that England will be the main candidate for victory.

Even if Portugal has christiano Ronaldo and some other good players I think it will be hard for them to win the world cup. Portugal has never won FIFA World Cup before, Brazil has won the Cup several times , Brazil might have the possibility to win the Cup because from experience they know how to go about it.

Personally, I think Portugal and especially Ronaldo reached their peak at the last World Cup 2018.
In these World Cup qualifiers, it was clear that Portugal was no longer so dominant, and they even lost in the fight for first place in their qualifying group to Serbia at home.
Ronaldo is also no longer as dominant a player as he was a few years ago.
Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years so I don’t understand what kind of experience we are talking about here.
For me personally, Brazil is not the main favorite for the title but France and Spain.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 04, 2022, 04:21:12 AM

Quote from: alegotardo on April 03, 2022, 05:15:17 PM

I believe that Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't be able to lift that cup.
I believe that Portugal can at most reach the quarter-finals, but that's too much to expect from a team that barely managed to qualify for the World Cup.

However, I've been taking a look at futscience.com and I've noticed that they point to Portugal as having "some chance" of winning the Fifa world cup...
Brazil has a 15.2% probability of winning, England and France have 12.8%; Spain, 9.3%; Germany, 7% and Portugal, 6.4%.

Maybe!?

Portugal problem is the coach, because in terms of players there should even be a greater probability.
I don't see Portugal winning the World Cup either, unfortunately, but it's a real possibility given the quality of the players in question.

I believe that Brazil has a great probability, but continued to think that England will be the main candidate for victory.

Even if Portugal has christiano Ronaldo and some other good players I think it will be hard for them to win the world cup. Portugal has never won FIFA World Cup before, Brazil has won the Cup several times , Brazil might have the possibility to win the Cup because from experience they know how to go about it.

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Quote from: alegotardo on April 03, 2022, 05:15:17 PM

I believe that Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't be able to lift that cup.
I believe that Portugal can at most reach the quarter-finals, but that's too much to expect from a team that barely managed to qualify for the World Cup.

However, I've been taking a look at futscience.com and I've noticed that they point to Portugal as having "some chance" of winning the Fifa world cup...
Brazil has a 15.2% probability of winning, England and France have 12.8%; Spain, 9.3%; Germany, 7% and Portugal, 6.4%.

Maybe!?

Portugal problem is the coach, because in terms of players there should even be a greater probability.
I don't see Portugal winning the World Cup either, unfortunately, but it's a real possibility given the quality of the players in question.

I believe that Brazil has a great probability, but continued to think that England will be the main candidate for victory.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 05:36:20 PM

It would be really a great achievement for Ronaldo to end his national career by winning a World Cup indeed. But I just think that Portugal are a sad case about that for now.

A Ronaldo world cup would put this lad in the immortal books which could take several years to break the records he has so far, but one step at a time i guess.

Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 05:36:20 PM

During the qualifiers phase, I didn't like Portugal's performance at all. They don't seem to be one of the favourites for this title. However there is no rule like the favourite teams always win of course.

And I agree that Portugal are not in the easiest of groups but these guys have done it before to come top against all odds when they won the Euros but the world cup is a different ball game which breaks the strongest of teams but I think they are more than capable to conquer this one.

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But my favourite team for this title are absolutely Brazil. They have been incredible so far. I don't see any European team better than them for now. France might be the closest.

Brazil golden days are over but certainly not a write off but I wouldn't mind seeing France take as they are a good team too.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 05:36:20 PM

It would be really a great achievement for Ronaldo to end his national career by winning a World Cup indeed. But I just think that Portugal are a sad case about that for now. During the qualifiers phase, I didn't like Portugal's performance at all. They don't seem to be one of the favourites for this title. However there is no rule like the favourite teams always win of course. But my favourite team for this title are absolutely Brazil. They have been incredible so far. I don't see any European team better than them for now. France might be the closest.

We can't make early predictions, none thought that Italy will go out of the qualifiers. Things happened in the opposite way. Portugal have got an opportunity, and it is great that Ronaldo who had appeared in all the World Cup since 2006 have got the chance to win World Cup. Because Ronaldo and Messi being titled on different leagues weren't able to win a world cup. This time one amongst can make history.

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It would be really a great achievement for Ronaldo to end his national career by winning a World Cup indeed. But I just think that Portugal are a sad case about that for now. During the qualifiers phase, I didn't like Portugal's performance at all. They don't seem to be one of the favourites for this title. However there is no rule like the favourite teams always win of course. But my favourite team for this title are absolutely Brazil. They have been incredible so far. I don't see any European team better than them for now. France might be the closest.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 03, 2022, 03:07:59 PM

one more please!
This is the last World Cup for Ronaldo and it would be good if Portugal achieved something at the World Cup with him.
As for the fact that Portugal is playing a draw and this is supposedly bad - I do not agree. If the team at least draws, then no one is stronger Cool

For example, in the semi-final of the 2012 European Championship, Portugal lost only in the lottery to the future champions - Spain. If you look objectively, then Portugal is consistently good.

I believe that Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't be able to lift that cup.
I believe that Portugal can at most reach the quarter-finals, but that's too much to expect from a team that barely managed to qualify for the World Cup.

However, I've been taking a look at futscience.com and I've noticed that they point to Portugal as having "some chance" of winning the Fifa world cup...
Brazil has a 15.2% probability of winning, England and France have 12.8%; Spain, 9.3%; Germany, 7% and Portugal, 6.4%.

Maybe!?

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