2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 117.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on April 06, 2022, 10:37:30 AM

Brazilian players have good quality, but because of the many stars, the coach finds it difficult to regulate their rhythm in playing, because the ego of a star affects all teams in playing, this is what makes Brazil not play consistently in the last world cup event, even though Brazil is a The country that has won the most world cup trophies, in terms of the quality of their players and experience, has a very good chance of winning again, but in football anything can happen, but by calculations Brazil has a bigger chance

I do not think it is about egos, I think it is about culture and the way they play. When they are one in 11, they could be hidden and they are given a role that is more suitable for them and they play accordingly. However when you have 11 of them, then it is hard to get that many fluid motion players, with some flare, and then ask them to play in their role according to your tactic.

It is not really that impossible, we have seen Brazil win so many things internationally before, but it is not quite common neither because it is hard to do that. Like when Germany gets a good generation which they do once every 10 years anyway, they are like well oiled machine and follow orders, you can't expect Brazilians to do that.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on April 05, 2022, 03:37:23 PM

Quote from: Mamun74 on April 05, 2022, 01:44:32 PM

I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

Brazil is a team that has the best soccer star squad of all time, there are many professional players who have extraordinary skills, this samba team has a myriad of achievements in the international football scene, but in football this is not always a guarantee, that they will come out as champions, Serbia, Switzerland and Cameroon have developed in the world of football, they also have a solid team at the moment, although the experience of the three teams is much different from Brazil, but in football anything can happen, strategy, players and coaches can change the conditions of the game, it's interesting for us to wait for how the game goes

What happens is that Brazil has the perfect environment to produce a strong squad over and over again, not only they have a huge population as the country is huge, the weather is great and soccer is almost a religion there, so you will be hard-pressed to find anyone that has not played soccer at some point during their lives, when we add they have some of the best trainers and they are not afraid to send their best player to the best leagues around the world, then we can easily see why Brazil has always made it to the World Cup but also why it is always a contender.

Still their group is not going to be easy, according to some articles I have read it seems their group is the hardest, so while I expect them to move to the next round it is not going to be a walk in the park for them either.

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Sometimes, winning trophy goes down to the individual players seeing reasons with themselves as to why each of them need to. Its not about having the most squads in your team, of course Brazil have always had the most quality team, even Spain too and still, France won the last one. Although, France is another team with some really good players but then, not as much as Brazil or Spain. We saw the determination of Russia (even though, the world now don't want them in any competitiveness) but, we saw them playing as one and a mind of winning the trophy for them and they go t really close. Brazil is good but sooner than later, they often let there doom in.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on April 06, 2022, 10:37:30 AM

Brazilian players have good quality, but because of the many stars, the coach finds it difficult to regulate their rhythm in playing, because the ego of a star affects all teams in playing, this is what makes Brazil not play consistently in the last world cup event, even though Brazil is a The country that has won the most world cup trophies, in terms of the quality of their players and experience, has a very good chance of winning again, but in football anything can happen, but by calculations Brazil has a bigger chance

These are old stereotypes that are outdated more than 15-20 years ago. Most of the players in the Brazilian national team are a product of the European school of football (I mean their final formation and not football youth) and they play in Europe so discipline is the norm for them. Team games are always a certain randomness (and there can be only one champion), so it is wrong to draw conclusions based on one championship. I think that Brazil will be one of the main favorites to win the tournament, even though the World Cup will be held at the geographic longitude of Europe and fans of statistics understand what this means.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on April 05, 2022, 03:37:23 PM

Quote from: Mamun74 on April 05, 2022, 01:44:32 PM

I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

Brazil is a team that has the best soccer star squad of all time, there are many professional players who have extraordinary skills, this samba team has a myriad of achievements in the international football scene, but in football this is not always a guarantee, that they will come out as champions, Serbia, Switzerland and Cameroon have developed in the world of football, they also have a solid team at the moment, although the experience of the three teams is much different from Brazil, but in football anything can happen, strategy, players and coaches can change the conditions of the game, it's interesting for us to wait for how the game goes

It's quite funny how some club fans would hype and over hype thier favourite clubs with great hope that hey would go well, but at the end of match you would see them in different positions and mood.
You have said something here, anything can happen we just have to keep calm and watch what is going on while the match is in progress.
Too much faith, hope and determination my fans makes them end up in a different situation all together.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on April 05, 2022, 01:44:32 PM

I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

Brazil is a team that has the best soccer star squad of all time, there are many professional players who have extraordinary skills, this samba team has a myriad of achievements in the international football scene, but in football this is not always a guarantee, that they will come out as champions, Serbia, Switzerland and Cameroon have developed in the world of football, they also have a solid team at the moment, although the experience of the three teams is much different from Brazil, but in football anything can happen, strategy, players and coaches can change the conditions of the game, it's interesting for us to wait for how the game goes

Not only has many star players, Brazil also had extraordinary achievements at the World Cup. Even Brazil, which has participated 21 times
in the World Cup and won 5 trophies, is the most compared to other countries. Although the FIFA World Cup top goal scorer was Miroslav Klose
from Germany, however, the Brazilian national team has so far managed to score the most goals with 229 goals. This means that Brazil's
achievements are indeed the best compared to other countries, unfortunately Brazil has not won a World Cup trophy for a long time,
the last time being a World Cup winner was in 2002. So Brazil in the 2022 World Cup must be very motivated to win their 6th trophy.
No wonder Brazil will be the favorite in Group G and I predict Brazil will qualify for the next round, although the opponent is also not easy.

Brazilian players have good quality, but because of the many stars, the coach finds it difficult to regulate their rhythm in playing, because the ego of a star affects all teams in playing, this is what makes Brazil not play consistently in the last world cup event, even though Brazil is a The country that has won the most world cup trophies, in terms of the quality of their players and experience, has a very good chance of winning again, but in football anything can happen, but by calculations Brazil has a bigger chance

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Quote from: mrongoz_imut on April 05, 2022, 04:37:45 PM

Quote from: sayaya17 on April 05, 2022, 04:30:59 PM

Not only has many star players, Brazil also had extraordinary achievements at the World Cup. Even Brazil, which has participated 21 times
in the World Cup and won 5 trophies, is the most compared to other countries. Although the FIFA World Cup top goal scorer was Miroslav Klose
from Germany, however, the Brazilian national team has so far managed to score the most goals with 229 goals. This means that Brazil's
achievements are indeed the best compared to other countries, unfortunately Brazil has not won a World Cup trophy for a long time,
the last time being a World Cup winner was in 2002. So Brazil in the 2022 World Cup must be very motivated to win their 6th trophy.
No wonder Brazil will be the favorite in Group G and I predict Brazil will qualify for the next round, although the opponent is also not easy.

Brazil right now looks different with Brazil on 2022 era where they have many player option on every position, I think Brazil looks not favorite in this world cup depending with player composition trough they not have enough strength as favorite to be champion. Actually on forward central position I don't see as potential player like 2002 era where have Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Romario. But now central forward have gone on Brazil team national country and I don't see they have favorite player on this position.

I agree with you that comparing the 2002 Brazil squad really was the golden generation at that time, in 2002 Brazil did have a deadly striker.
But this year may rely solely on Neymar, whose performance is on the decline with PSG. Although this year's Brazil squad is not as good
as 2002's, I think there is still a chance for Brazil to win the trophy. Because overall the Brazil squad also has pretty good players in their
respective clubs, at least we will assess Brazil's performance when playing in the group phase. If Brazil proves to be able to win Group G,
they really deserve to be candidates for the 2022 World Cup trophy. Moreover, Serbia and Switzerland are strong opponents for Brazil,
so if Brazil is able to beat Serbia and Switzerland, I'm pretty optimistic that Brazil can win the 2022 World Cup trophy.

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Quote from: sayaya17 on April 05, 2022, 04:30:59 PM

Not only has many star players, Brazil also had extraordinary achievements at the World Cup. Even Brazil, which has participated 21 times
in the World Cup and won 5 trophies, is the most compared to other countries. Although the FIFA World Cup top goal scorer was Miroslav Klose
from Germany, however, the Brazilian national team has so far managed to score the most goals with 229 goals. This means that Brazil's
achievements are indeed the best compared to other countries, unfortunately Brazil has not won a World Cup trophy for a long time,
the last time being a World Cup winner was in 2002. So Brazil in the 2022 World Cup must be very motivated to win their 6th trophy.
No wonder Brazil will be the favorite in Group G and I predict Brazil will qualify for the next round, although the opponent is also not easy.

Brazil right now looks different with Brazil on 2022 era where they have many player option on every position, I think Brazil looks not favorite in this world cup depending with player composition trough they not have enough strength as favorite to be champion. Actually on forward central position I don't see as potential player like 2002 era where have Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Romario. But now central forward have gone on Brazil team national country and I don't see they have favorite player on this position.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on April 05, 2022, 01:44:32 PM

I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

Brazil is a team that has the best soccer star squad of all time, there are many professional players who have extraordinary skills, this samba team has a myriad of achievements in the international football scene, but in football this is not always a guarantee, that they will come out as champions, Serbia, Switzerland and Cameroon have developed in the world of football, they also have a solid team at the moment, although the experience of the three teams is much different from Brazil, but in football anything can happen, strategy, players and coaches can change the conditions of the game, it's interesting for us to wait for how the game goes

Not only has many star players, Brazil also had extraordinary achievements at the World Cup. Even Brazil, which has participated 21 times
in the World Cup and won 5 trophies, is the most compared to other countries. Although the FIFA World Cup top goal scorer was Miroslav Klose
from Germany, however, the Brazilian national team has so far managed to score the most goals with 229 goals. This means that Brazil's
achievements are indeed the best compared to other countries, unfortunately Brazil has not won a World Cup trophy for a long time,
the last time being a World Cup winner was in 2002. So Brazil in the 2022 World Cup must be very motivated to win their 6th trophy.
No wonder Brazil will be the favorite in Group G and I predict Brazil will qualify for the next round, although the opponent is also not easy.

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I think those who will advance to the next round in Group A are the Netherlands as group winners and Senegal as second place in Group A. because Senegal is also a team of proven quality, they have just won the African champions, what Senegally needs to know is as the first position in the FIFA ranking list for the African region.
The star from Liverpool also comes from Senegal, namely Sadio Mane. Everyone knows the quality of Mane.

Sadio Mane alone can't take Senegal to the second round. And Senegal has been inconsistent in the past. I would still go with Ecuador. They are regularly playing against the best in the world (Brazil, Agrentina.etc), and have performed quite decently in the recent past. My guess is that Ecuador, along with the Netherlands will be able to qualify from Group A. One thing I have learnt from the previous editions of the world cup is not to underestimate any of the CONMEBOL teams. There are simply no weak teams from that confederation.

In as much as Sadio Mane is clearly instrumental for the Senegalese team success in recent times, it is known that him only can't make them succeed at the world cup. Amongst the African teams playing in the world cup, Senegal is the favorite tipped to progress far in the competition. Apart from Mane, they have Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy, Idrissa Gueye and some other players of world class ability. I want to defer that Senegal will get to the knockout round at least.

Yeah, I totally agree with you, congratulations to Senegal for their hard work and achievements.
I believe sadio mane is the main instrument of Senegal, not that in saying the other are not useful but with what he has displayed, I believe he would do better this time Cheesy

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Senegal would always take the lead and always try their best.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on April 05, 2022, 01:44:32 PM

I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

I think that they will win the first two games and play the third in economy mode (a draw is possible). In fact, for such teams, the real struggle will begin only from the playoff round, and the group stage will be just entertainment and a good opportunity to increase personal statistics. I think Neymar will try very hard in this for the sake of his shaken image.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on April 05, 2022, 01:44:32 PM

I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

Brazil is a team that has the best soccer star squad of all time, there are many professional players who have extraordinary skills, this samba team has a myriad of achievements in the international football scene, but in football this is not always a guarantee, that they will come out as champions, Serbia, Switzerland and Cameroon have developed in the world of football, they also have a solid team at the moment, although the experience of the three teams is much different from Brazil, but in football anything can happen, strategy, players and coaches can change the conditions of the game, it's interesting for us to wait for how the game goes

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Quote from: Bloodseekers on April 01, 2022, 10:28:56 PM

I think those who will advance to the next round in Group A are the Netherlands as group winners and Senegal as second place in Group A. because Senegal is also a team of proven quality, they have just won the African champions, what Senegally needs to know is as the first position in the FIFA ranking list for the African region.
The star from Liverpool also comes from Senegal, namely Sadio Mane. Everyone knows the quality of Mane.

Sadio Mane alone can't take Senegal to the second round. And Senegal has been inconsistent in the past. I would still go with Ecuador. They are regularly playing against the best in the world (Brazil, Agrentina.etc), and have performed quite decently in the recent past. My guess is that Ecuador, along with the Netherlands will be able to qualify from Group A. One thing I have learnt from the previous editions of the world cup is not to underestimate any of the CONMEBOL teams. There are simply no weak teams from that confederation.

In as much as Sadio Mane is clearly instrumental for the Senegalese team success in recent times, it is known that him only can't make them succeed at the world cup. Amongst the African teams playing in the world cup, Senegal is the favorite tipped to progress far in the competition. Apart from Mane, they have Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy, Idrissa Gueye and some other players of world class ability. I want to defer that Senegal will get to the knockout round at least.

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I think, Brazil will be easily qualified for next round. Because Brazil is very strong team their group.Brazil have some star player who Chang the game.If Serbia,Switzerland and Cameroon have strong team but i hope Brazil will win all matches in group stage.I think European team is dangerous for any American team.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 04, 2022, 04:33:28 AM

Personally, I think Portugal and especially Ronaldo reached their peak at the last World Cup 2018.
In these World Cup qualifiers, it was clear that Portugal was no longer so dominant, and they even lost in the fight for first place in their qualifying group to Serbia at home.
Ronaldo is also no longer as dominant a player as he was a few years ago.
Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years so I don’t understand what kind of experience we are talking about here.
For me personally, Brazil is not the main favorite for the title but France and Spain.

The most important thing is this Portugal side were able to qualify for the world cup and in a good group where they can easily qualify to the knockout. I think this Portugal may have passed their peak only if we are rating them by Ronaldo's form lately, they have Bruno who's terrific and can turn a game around. It's true they might not be favorite to win the competition but they are certainly not the weakest.
I would want to add Brazil and Argentina to the most likely favorites which are Spain, Germany and France. I think Brazil and Argentina has that hunger to win

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 04, 2022, 12:28:05 PM

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Why is the coach a problem in the case of the Portuguese national team? In general, with him, Portugal won the European Championship in 2016, constantly enters all qualifying tournaments and then leaves the group and reaches the last stages. Right now they are playing, even if not always interesting, but stable and can finish off any opponent. A very unpleasant team, with almost no weaknesses.

What I can say as Portuguese, is that his strategy is no longer well seen among the fans. Of course, if you win, people change their opinion, but nowadays nobody believes that the team will go far.

Why? Well, we've all noticed that he plays "dear" players, when they are no longer better players. Then, put the team to play in a style that only promotes a draw or a victory by the minimum score. A team that has the best defenders, the best midfielders and one of the best forwards, cannot limit itself to playing in a style of waiting for what will happen.

Of course, if all goes well, it will be well seen. But it doesn't have a lively style of play for a team with such good players.

Unfortunately, football is now a lot of money and a mistake or failure can have a very bad effect on the career of not only players, but also the coach. Therefore, with such a national team, with such players, responsibility presses on Santos, so sometimes it seems that Portugal is playing "dry" or "boring". In general, he did not seem to have any major failures and defeats. And Serbia and Ireland are not the weakest teams.

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In my opinion, Fernando Santos is one of the smartest modern national team coaches. With a team that is not the strongest in terms of composition, he won two titles (the European Championship and the League of Nations) and consistently shows good results. He prefers "reliable" game schemes and this is quite understandable - Portugal beats "light" opponents one way or another, but the team's main competitors are much stronger and you have to use tactical tricks to beat them. I don't understand how you can blame him for bad style of play. He chooses his formation for each match with a strong opponent individually and mostly he succeeds. But we cannot demand that he consistently beat France, Brazil, Germany, etc.

But I'm not expecting him to always beat France, Brazil or Germany. If I lose against these countries I will understand and accept naturally.

But for the range of players that Portugal has, it cannot be accepted that they lose with Serbia or draw with the Republic of Ireland. It's not that these teams don't have quality, of course they do. But the Portuguese team is frankly better.

The problem that often occurs in Portugal is the influence that some clubs and some players' agents have on the football federation. Making good players sometimes not called up or not playing, and then you see players who are not having good performances starting. It's one thing to lose and play well, it's another to play poorly and lose games that clearly should be won.

But it's true, we're at the World Cup in Qatar, and no matter how much criticism or less if you like the style of play, you've managed to overcome the obstacles. I'm glad of course, but I think they could be a little better, that's all. Wink

In my opinion, Portugal has a good win rate against weak and medium teams. Of course, sometimes there are bad results - if you always beat weak and average opponents and play on equal terms with strong ones, then you are a top 1 (or close) team. But Portugal is far from the group of top teams, so such results are natural and inevitable. Portugal shows excellent stability - it gets to all the finals of the World and European Championships either directly or beats rivals in the elimination games (here the results are extremely stable).

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In my opinion, Fernando Santos is one of the smartest modern national team coaches. With a team that is not the strongest in terms of composition, he won two titles (the European Championship and the League of Nations) and consistently shows good results. He prefers "reliable" game schemes and this is quite understandable - Portugal beats "light" opponents one way or another, but the team's main competitors are much stronger and you have to use tactical tricks to beat them. I don't understand how you can blame him for bad style of play. He chooses his formation for each match with a strong opponent individually and mostly he succeeds. But we cannot demand that he consistently beat France, Brazil, Germany, etc.

But I'm not expecting him to always beat France, Brazil or Germany. If I lose against these countries I will understand and accept naturally.

But for the range of players that Portugal has, it cannot be accepted that they lose with Serbia or draw with the Republic of Ireland. It's not that these teams don't have quality, of course they do. But the Portuguese team is frankly better.

The problem that often occurs in Portugal is the influence that some clubs and some players' agents have on the football federation. Making good players sometimes not called up or not playing, and then you see players who are not having good performances starting. It's one thing to lose and play well, it's another to play poorly and lose games that clearly should be won.

But it's true, we're at the World Cup in Qatar, and no matter how much criticism or less if you like the style of play, you've managed to overcome the obstacles. I'm glad of course, but I think they could be a little better, that's all. Wink

^ Yes, I agree because we all know that Portugal is not a really powerful team like Germany or Brazil or France or the other superpowers of this time.

So, it is natural that they are going to lose against those superpowers. But, I really think that they should win against teams like Serbia and North Macedonia. these matches should be winning matches for Portugal. Portugal has not been performing at their best in recent times and they really need to do better if they want to achieve something from this world cup. and I really expect big things from this time for the sake of Ronaldo.

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We really don't know what will happen, usually the world cup is full of surprises it could be that the favorite team loses like what happened in Italy in the qualifiers
The football is so wide that the ball can roll in any direction no one can guess for sure, I believe Portugal can still be relied on even though it's not the best
They have some great players, even without Ronaldo they are still very dangerous.

You are right no one can predict about result of this World Cup as mostly we have surprises in these events and any team can eliminate from event in early matches which already happened many times with Bookmakers mostly have their own favorites like Germany, Brazil and France which are seasoned teams and mostly performed good.

Cristiano Ronaldo is playing his last mega event so people's feeling he can do something which is possible, but he alone can't do any big thing without big support from his other players, and currently they have some good support in middle and defense as well, so it's going to be very exciting for them but still I am having my own few favorites and these are Brazil and Germany as these teams are capable to adopt all conditions very quickly instead of other teams those take time and lost in crucial time.

I know that Portugal is a very good team even without Ronaldo but I wonder if they will be able to win without Ronaldo.
Because Ronaldo is a great win condition for them and he does give really good stability in the attacking for the team.

Another thing is, this is his last World Cup I guess so he will surely try to do something special in this world cup but he really needs the help of his team otherwise he will not be able to do too much for his country.

Yes, I also agree that football can be full of surprises. so, I think we can still expect good things from Portugal.

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