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I have yet to see any official news where Messi has announced that this is his last World Cup. However, Messi is now 35 years old, so naturally, this is going to be his last World Cup. And Argentina is expected to do well in this World Cup. Because the Argentina team has been able to continue good performance for a long time. I would say if Messi and Argentina's defenders are able to perform well in the World Cup, Argentina has a high chance of winning the title.
Let's see if Messi will really play in the world cup this time because there is no confirmation about it through official news although I personally believe that Messi will definitely be used by the Argentine team considering that Messi can still play well in Ligue1 at PSG. Although the productivity of the number of goals is no longer the same as when Messi was younger, Messi is still able to help the team play better.
It will be a thing of joy to see Lionel Messi win the world cup,it will be deserving,it will end an extraordinary career,I think messi can't give us the number of goals he normally scored even though he still score but what Messi has truly improve on over the years is his assist number,now I can beat my chest and say Messi is the best play maker followed by Kevin debruyne,  the Argentine defence is strong they got Romero, their biggest problem is losing Locelso to injury.
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Messi is currently in the best shape as we already watch him with PSG in Ligue1 and Champions League where he is more useful player so most chances Argentine will not leave him out of the squad as he is also on mission for his first World Cup win and for his country this is going to happen after 42 years even before his birth but right now he is the best playmaker and his performance is also better than many quality players specially as in just early phase of the season, and he has already done 11 goals and 14 assist for the PSG in French League and Champions League which is clearly indicating about his performance so if he wants to play for next four years this possibility is also available without any big problem.
Moreover, in this case, it might be the last world cup for him, so he really has to go all out now because there is no time for that.
On the other hand, at this time the Argentinian players are quite good and promising, so the chance to talk more at the world cup is clearly big.
Opponents in the Group Phase can be said to be quite easy actually, so this must be maximized properly so that their enthusiasm does not dim.
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I have heard that Qatar tried to bribe some Ecuador players to be able to guarantee starting with a win on the first day of the World Cup. The amount offered is said to be like 7.4 million dollars. This is really unbelievable. I wonder if FIFA is thinking of any sanction about this attempt. It is a crime in the end but I feel like we won't see anything big from FIFA for now. They are the host country and I guess they won't just throw them out of the World Cup while the whole tournament is being played in Qatar.

But actually they should do so. Qatar can't prove anything by defeating Ecuador. So there is no meaning in such bribe attempt. Just because of wanting to start with a win ahead of their supporters in their country, they can't find the right in themselves to bribe anyone.
I hope the allegations are false because if it is proven without reasonable doubt to be true, it would be a shame to the country and discredit them in the sports community. Football is a game of fun and meant to bond the world together. Losing and winning is suppose to be part of the game and shouldn't be so emphasised on to the extend of bribing opponents to lose a game, it goes against the spirit of the game and if this is true Qatar should be sanctioned for it.
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There is no chance that Messi will be left out of the playing XI, if you are pointing towards that possibility. At this point, he is one of the top players in world football and Argentina's chances of winning the trophy this time depends a lot on him. Fortunately for Argentina, they are not overdependent on Messi (unlike the case with some of the other teams such as Portugal and Belgium), as they have good players such as Ángel Di María, Paulo Dybala and Lautaro Martínez, who can release some of the pressure on Messi.
That's right. I don't know how anyone can think that Messi won't be playing in the starting lineup for Argentina. He is their best player, but fortunately for them, other players are pretty good too. Besides, Messi is not a player who's only strength is scoring goals. He is also one of the best playmakers in the world. So he doesn't need to score a lot of goals for his team to be indispensable for them.
Messi is currently in the best shape as we already watch him with PSG in Ligue1 and Champions League where he is more useful player so most chances Argentine will not leave him out of the squad as he is also on mission for his first World Cup win and for his country this is going to happen after 42 years even before his birth but right now he is the best playmaker and his performance is also better than many quality players specially as in just early phase of the season, and he has already done 11 goals and 14 assist for the PSG in French League and Champions League which is clearly indicating about his performance so if he wants to play for next four years this possibility is also available without any big problem.
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I have heard that Qatar tried to bribe some Ecuador players to be able to guarantee starting with a win on the first day of the World Cup. The amount offered is said to be like 7.4 million dollars. This is really unbelievable. I wonder if FIFA is thinking of any sanction about this attempt. It is a crime in the end but I feel like we won't see anything big from FIFA for now. They are the host country and I guess they won't just throw them out of the World Cup while the whole tournament is being played in Qatar.

But actually they should do so. Qatar can't prove anything by defeating Ecuador. So there is no meaning in such bribe attempt. Just because of wanting to start with a win ahead of their supporters in their country, they can't find the right in themselves to bribe anyone.

I think this news might be real. If rumours are going on it might be true. Ecuador players probobly arent getting paid much. I heard 8 players might be in on this so this makes everything confusing. If this is true fifa needs to act quick about this. But still the host is in on this so probobly will let them slip
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messi is a very important player for argentina, see that even when messi did not have good results at PSG when he just arrived he had good results in the argentina team, so messi's place in the team is something guaranteed, now there is something that me it seems obvious that it is messi's age, it is clear that this will be his last world cup and knowing that argentina has one of the best teams in this world cup it will be something spectacular if argentina wins the world cup and messi says goodbye to the world cup world. as a fan of argentina i just root for portugal and argentina. as an african i don't expect teams from africa to go far, that's a reality, sad but it's reality.
There is no scenario where Messi doesn't play, who are they going to put instead of Messi? I mean not just Argentina, I feel like there are no teams in the whole world who would say no to Messi and would replace him, not any national team, not any club team, dude is the best player in the world and he is still best player in the world, even at this age.

People could end up thinking about whatever they talk about, they could doubt anything they want to doubt, I do not care about that, but I am 100% sure that Messi will play, there is no doubt about that. And they are a decent team, so I am 99% sure that they will reach more than quarter finals with him too.
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I have heard that Qatar tried to bribe some Ecuador players to be able to guarantee starting with a win on the first day of the World Cup. The amount offered is said to be like 7.4 million dollars. This is really unbelievable. I wonder if FIFA is thinking of any sanction about this attempt. It is a crime in the end but I feel like we won't see anything big from FIFA for now. They are the host country and I guess they won't just throw them out of the World Cup while the whole tournament is being played in Qatar.

But actually they should do so. Qatar can't prove anything by defeating Ecuador. So there is no meaning in such bribe attempt. Just because of wanting to start with a win ahead of their supporters in their country, they can't find the right in themselves to bribe anyone.
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I have yet to see any official news where Messi has announced that this is his last World Cup. However, Messi is now 35 years old, so naturally, this is going to be his last World Cup. And Argentina is expected to do well in this World Cup. Because the Argentina team has been able to continue good performance for a long time. I would say if Messi and Argentina's defenders are able to perform well in the World Cup, Argentina has a high chance of winning the title.
Let's see if Messi will really play in the world cup this time because there is no confirmation about it through official news although I personally believe that Messi will definitely be used by the Argentine team considering that Messi can still play well in Ligue1 at PSG. Although the productivity of the number of goals is no longer the same as when Messi was younger, Messi is still able to help the team play better.

messi is a very important player for argentina, see that even when messi did not have good results at PSG when he just arrived he had good results in the argentina team, so messi's place in the team is something guaranteed, now there is something that me it seems obvious that it is messi's age, it is clear that this will be his last world cup and knowing that argentina has one of the best teams in this world cup it will be something spectacular if argentina wins the world cup and messi says goodbye to the world cup world. as a fan of argentina i just root for portugal and argentina. as an african i don't expect teams from africa to go far, that's a reality, sad but it's reality.

Today Portugal will play a friendly match with Nigeria. The coach has already said that Ronaldo will not play because he is sick. But at this moment with so much controversy around the player, it is difficult to understand what is going on.

In Portugal, several people think that this friendly will not serve to improve the team, but only to meet the schedule. Which could complicate things, a week from now, in the first game of the World Cup.

Although the Portuguese believe that Portugal has a good team and good players, there is a general feeling that things are not going to go well.

what is your opinion? Do I think Portugal has the conditions to go far in the competition?
It is nothing serious to miss a friendly game. It is normal that top teams rest their top players for important games and do not risk playing their top players in friendly games to avoid injuries, whatever the reason may be for his absence in the game I don’t think the game was that important. Ronaldo is likely to feature in the first group game against Ghana which is a more important game than the one against Nigeria.
Before the day of the match, there were reports that he missed training on Wednesday, and has not recovered in time to feature in the match as he is still struggling with a stomach bug. There’s no way the coach would feature a player who’s unwell in a match like that. He needed to be fit and be ready for their first game in the World Cup which is on November 24th against Ghana. Also with Ronaldo’s explosive interview with Piers Morgan about the owners and the manager, I expected him to be absent in this game to reduce the pressure.

things are not going well for cristiano ronaldo, he doesn't even play for manchester united anymore and not playing more games will only make him in the world cup I don't have a good performance, this season is being a nightmare for him, someone here believes that cristiano ronaldo with this lack of games could he perform well in the world cup? I don't believe, maybe he won't even manage to score 5 goals at least

Portugal has proven to people yesterday, that nothing can stop them not to go far in this world cup competition because they were able to scored two goals in the first half in the friendly match with Nigeria that made many people to believed that they have potential players who can demonstrate well without cristiano Ronaldo involve in the match. Before the end of the friendly match, Portugal scored 4 goals to beat Nigeria without allow Nigeria strikers to score one goal.

nigeria is not even a strong team, and knowing africans ( i am african ) without a doubt that they must not have made an effort to save strength for the world cup, they must have only played this game to comply with schedule only, and when they arrive at the world cup they will play seriously even if they don't have good results or don't go far. portugal should not be fooled by this result, the african would not make an effort in a friendly game that is very close to the world cup
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Today Portugal will play a friendly match with Nigeria. The coach has already said that Ronaldo will not play because he is sick. But at this moment with so much controversy around the player, it is difficult to understand what is going on.
I don't think, something is going on because cristiano Ronaldo have been playing with Portugal, which their citizens know it very well that cristiano Ronaldo is among the international player that love to come home to perform well, which he will surely demonstrate well in this world cup competition once he get well.
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what is your opinion? Do I think Portugal has the conditions to go far in the competition?

Portugal has proven to people yesterday, that nothing can stop them not to go far in this world cup competition because they were able to scored two goals in the first half in the friendly match with Nigeria that made many people to believed that they have potential players who can demonstrate well without cristiano Ronaldo involve in the match. Before the end of the friendly match, Portugal scored 4 goals to beat Nigeria without allow Nigeria strikers to score one goal.
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In general, there is no guarantee for any country to get the World Cup trophy easily this year, but considering that players are better in certain countries such as Argentina, there is clearly a chance and it will be better if Argentina is in the calculation to get a trophy. World Cup. Because remembering that Argentina still has Messi who still wants to make his country proud of him if he is able to bring Argentina to the world cup trophy.
Nobody calls World Cup is an easy tournament and consider it is easy to win. It is a very tough tournament and is only hosted every four years (if no special reasons to skip it like World Wars). Career of player is too short and each player does not have too many opportunity to participate in World Cup. So far, a record for players who played in most World Cup tournaments is only 5 and very few players reached to that record.

It means being a champion in World Cup is a dream for all players and they need to play at 100% energy as well as need luckiness to win it.

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If Argentina is indeed able to make its fans happy and proud because they have the opportunity to get the world cup before Messi retires, that is precisely very good for Argentina, but this is still uncertain because several other countries also have more players in very good condition to play in the world cup this year.
Honestly, I agree that Messi is deserved to win one World Cup for his career but Argentina should not begin this World Cup 2022 with that pressure. Pressure only makes things worse than usual and Messi, Argentina should avoid it. They should only play and enjoy each match, avoid injuries and see how far they can move.
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Argentina could, because they already won continental, and it would be the last one for Messi and the whole world wants Roanldo or Messi to win something before they retire. It would be the very last one (probably) for both of them, so either they win it this year, or they won’t win at all for their entire career, such a sad situation of course.
Messi of course has a better chance, Argentina is overall a better team and built a good squad this time around, there is a possibility that they could win, add Messi into a team that is good and you got yourself a team that could beat anyone in the world, but they could also end up losing to anyone as well, there is no guarantee at all.
In general, there is no guarantee for any country to get the World Cup trophy easily this year, but considering that players are better in certain countries such as Argentina, there is clearly a chance and it will be better if Argentina is in the calculation to get a trophy. World Cup. Because remembering that Argentina still has Messi who still wants to make his country proud of him if he is able to bring Argentina to the world cup trophy.


Argentina was a good enough team in the last Bishcup. But their main weakness was their weak defense. And this is why Argentina's performance in previous World Cups was not very good. But in this World Cup, Argentina is a self-sufficient team. Defense, midfield and forward players are in good form. So in this World Cup Argentina team is considered as favorite by all. It could also be Messi's last World Cup. So most Messi fans want Argentina to win the title.
If Argentina is indeed able to make its fans happy and proud because they have the opportunity to get the world cup before Messi retires, that is precisely very good for Argentina, but this is still uncertain because several other countries also have more players in very good condition to play in the world cup this year.
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There are a few more players that maybe have the last chances to get the World Cup Title , or again !
Thomas Müller is one and also maybe Manuel Neuer from Germany but i guess every Nation has his old players.
By the way what i have seen yesterday on the review of the German friendly game was really disappointing in some way.

The World Cup is a rather rare event, so at every World Cup for a certain generation of football players this is the last World Cup. And not always the player knows about it in advance. For example, now he is 29-30 years old and he thinks that he will still have time to play in the next tournament, but the injury does not allow this to happen and it's all over - it is obvious that at 37-38 years old you will not be taken to the national team. That is why the history of the World Cups is to some extent a history of tragedies - everyone dreams of winning this title, but there are very few chances for a lifetime.
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That's right. I don't know how anyone can think that Messi won't be playing in the starting lineup for Argentina. He is their best player, but fortunately for them, other players are pretty good too. Besides, Messi is not a player who's only strength is scoring goals. He is also one of the best playmakers in the world. So he doesn't need to score a lot of goals for his team to be indispensable for them.
Apart from being a good striker, a team needs a leader on the field to win, I think Messi is very good for this role, he is an experienced player who can lead the team. I have no doubts that Messi will be in the starting line up of the Agrnegtina team, he is an excellent playmaker and striker, there are not so many players of this class in the whole world to have such a luxury and leave him on the bench.
I have no doubt that he will play in the starting line-up, but in the first game against Saudi Arabia, Argentina can win without Messi. So if he has any problems or injuries, the coach may give him time before the games against Mexico and Poland. They are two strong opponents in the group and his help will definitely be needed.
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That's right. I don't know how anyone can think that Messi won't be playing in the starting lineup for Argentina. He is their best player, but fortunately for them, other players are pretty good too. Besides, Messi is not a player who's only strength is scoring goals. He is also one of the best playmakers in the world. So he doesn't need to score a lot of goals for his team to be indispensable for them.
Apart from being a good striker, a team needs a leader on the field to win, I think Messi is very good for this role, he is an experienced player who can lead the team. I have no doubts that Messi will be in the starting line up of the Agrnegtina team, he is an excellent playmaker and striker, there are not so many players of this class in the whole world to have such a luxury and leave him on the bench.
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Let's see if Messi will really play in the world cup this time because there is no confirmation about it through official news although I personally believe that Messi will definitely be used by the Argentine team considering that Messi can still play well in Ligue1 at PSG. Although the productivity of the number of goals is no longer the same as when Messi was younger, Messi is still able to help the team play better.

There is no chance that Messi will be left out of the playing XI, if you are pointing towards that possibility. At this point, he is one of the top players in world football and Argentina's chances of winning the trophy this time depends a lot on him. Fortunately for Argentina, they are not overdependent on Messi (unlike the case with some of the other teams such as Portugal and Belgium), as they have good players such as Ángel Di María, Paulo Dybala and Lautaro Martínez, who can release some of the pressure on Messi.

That's right. I don't know how anyone can think that Messi won't be playing in the starting lineup for Argentina. He is their best player, but fortunately for them, other players are pretty good too. Besides, Messi is not a player who's only strength is scoring goals. He is also one of the best playmakers in the world. So he doesn't need to score a lot of goals for his team to be indispensable for them.
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Let's see if Messi will really play in the world cup this time because there is no confirmation about it through official news although I personally believe that Messi will definitely be used by the Argentine team considering that Messi can still play well in Ligue1 at PSG. Although the productivity of the number of goals is no longer the same as when Messi was younger, Messi is still able to help the team play better.

There is no chance that Messi will be left out of the playing XI, if you are pointing towards that possibility. At this point, he is one of the top players in world football and Argentina's chances of winning the trophy this time depends a lot on him. Fortunately for Argentina, they are not overdependent on Messi (unlike the case with some of the other teams such as Portugal and Belgium), as they have good players such as Ángel Di María, Paulo Dybala and Lautaro Martínez, who can release some of the pressure on Messi.
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I have yet to see any official news where Messi has announced that this is his last World Cup. However, Messi is now 35 years old, so naturally, this is going to be his last World Cup. And Argentina is expected to do well in this World Cup. Because the Argentina team has been able to continue good performance for a long time. I would say if Messi and Argentina's defenders are able to perform well in the World Cup, Argentina has a high chance of winning the title.
Let's see if Messi will really play in the world cup this time because there is no confirmation about it through official news although I personally believe that Messi will definitely be used by the Argentine team considering that Messi can still play well in Ligue1 at PSG. Although the productivity of the number of goals is no longer the same as when Messi was younger, Messi is still able to help the team play better.
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Croatia played a friendly match against Saudi Arabia yesterday and won but very hard, only 1:0.
In fact, it could be said that Saudi Arabia lost undeservedly, and they even had a chance to win.
After the match, all the Croatian players and the coach complained about the very difficult weather and high heat, which made it very difficult for them to play.
It seems to me that the difficult weather conditions in Qatar will be a major aggravating factor, especially for European teams that are not used to such harsh weather conditions.
These weather conditions will surely suit the African teams a lot more and maybe because of this the African teams will have more success in this world cup.

Croatia could have won with a bigger goal difference. Two of their goals were cancelled due to var and things could have gone worst for Saudi Arabia in this match. The heat will be a huge problem in the world cup and they need to get used to it. Team like Saudi Arabia,Qatar and so on are used to this conditions so might have a small advantage because of it

I agree, in the second half, when it was a little less hot, Croatia was much better and could have won with a much bigger goal difference.
However, in the first half, Saudi Arabia was much better and if they had scored the first goal, the question is how this match would have ended.
The Croatian defense made several huge mistakes in the first half, and it's really lucky that the players of Saudi Arabia didn't take advantage of that and scored a goal in the first half.
I hope that the Croatian players will get used to the high heat by the time the World Cup starts and that they will play better.
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Today Portugal will play a friendly match with Nigeria. The coach has already said that Ronaldo will not play because he is sick. But at this moment with so much controversy around the player, it is difficult to understand what is going on.

In Portugal, several people think that this friendly will not serve to improve the team, but only to meet the schedule. Which could complicate things, a week from now, in the first game of the World Cup.

Although the Portuguese believe that Portugal has a good team and good players, there is a general feeling that things are not going to go well.

what is your opinion? Do I think Portugal has the conditions to go far in the competition?
It is nothing serious to miss a friendly game. It is normal that top teams rest their top players for important games and do not risk playing their top players in friendly games to avoid injuries, whatever the reason may be for his absence in the game I don’t think the game was that important. Ronaldo is likely to feature in the first group game against Ghana which is a more important game than the one against Nigeria.
Before the day of the match, there were reports that he missed training on Wednesday, and has not recovered in time to feature in the match as he is still struggling with a stomach bug. There’s no way the coach would feature a player who’s unwell in a match like that. He needed to be fit and be ready for their first game in the World Cup which is on November 24th against Ghana. Also with Ronaldo’s explosive interview with Piers Morgan about the owners and the manager, I expected him to be absent in this game to reduce the pressure.
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a country that was originally a desert, of course, promises quite extreme hot temperatures, but as a developed country, of course, Qatar may already have technology that can indeed reduce the heat in stadiums later, apart from that, we see that in leagues that have hot enough weather usually matches there will be a time off for drinking players, apart from that the world cup in Qatar will take place during November and December where according to the news I read if at that time the weather in Qatar is only around 21 to 26 degrees Celsius and we can say that the temperature with that size is not too hot.

That is the reason why FIFA moved the tournament to November-December, despite strong opposition from some of the European clubs. It would have been unthinkable to have the tournament sometime in mid-2022, when the average temperature would be more than 40 degrees Celsius. But even during the months of November and December, the weather conditions in Qatar would be much different from what the Europeans are having. And it will impact the UEFA teams more, since CONMEBOL/AFC/CAF teams are used to playing in hot and humid conditions.
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