Topic: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 48. (Read 35002 times)
The world cup is a whole different experience all together, Asian teams are not even as good as European teams and won't even stand a chance against south American and European teams. They might be good playing in Asia but won't go far in a competition against European and South American teams. We shall see how well they will perform in the world cup when they compete against the world best teams.
Qatar bought the right to host the world cup by bribing with millions of dollars those officials which had the power to vote on the decision, so we cannot really put it past them to try to buy the referees of their matches, it would be a boneheaded move without doubt but it could happen, so the teams on their group need to keep their eyes open and try to win while giving no room for the referees to try to interfere on the result of the match.
there were a lot of rumors and controversies so loudly heard before and after Qatar was set as the 2022 host. However, the fact that the hosting of the World Cup in Qatar has not changed since Qatar was appointed to host since 2010.
There are many other controversies that have developed to date.
At the FIFA congress which was held in Doha, last March, there were protests at the congress, one of which was the president of the Norwegian Football Federation, in addition, protests were also present from football players, one of which was a football legend from Bayern Munich, Phillip lahm.
however, despite the controversies. I think it's hard to imagine Qatar trying to buy a referee, as you said, I'm always optimistic and positive thinking that things like that don't happen as long as this tournament goes on until the end.
There were big controversies regarding Qatar and also Russia in 2018.
At the same time, the leaders of FIFA and UEFA were convicted of corruption, and controversies about the awarding of the organization of the world championship to countries such as Qatar and Russia remained.
Even if that is true, those decisions will not change because football is, first of all, big business and big money is involved.
As hosts, Qatar will almost certainly have little favor from FIFA
OK.. this is new information for me. I didn't knew that Qatar are the Asian champions. I checked the stats and found out that they defeated Japan (1-3) to lift the 2019 AFC Asian Cup. And before that they defeated the United Arab Emirates in the semi-finals by a margin of 4-0. Won against South Korea 1-0 in the QF stage as well. These are some of the strongest teams in Asia. If Qatar can win against these teams, then it means that they are not as weak as we have thought. Looking at the results, I believe that they have a good chance against Senegal, and to some degree against Ecuador as well.
I agree, due to the fact that we all mostly follow European football, we have a very poor idea of the strengths of teams from other regions, especially from Asia. By the way, from the point of view of betting, this can lead to the fact that Qatar will be greatly underestimated and a bet on it in separate games will have great value.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
I certainly do not underestimate the Qatar National team. Even though it participated in the World Cup as the host i think all the teams in this organization are valuable. Also we should not forget that the Qatar National Team is the Asian champion. Asian teams consist of weak squads but Qatar National Team can get good results in the Cup with the advantage of being the home team.
I've said it in several posts, Ecuador will not easily beat Qatar, and vice versa. The opening match of the 2022 world cup is quite difficult to predict, in my personal opinion.
Qatar has an advantage that Ecuador doesn't have, they are the hosts, moral support from the public will flow to the Qatar squad when competing later, although this will not have a big impact especially on the quality of the players.
Ecuador has a much better experience than Qatar in the World Cup, they have a strong mentality that qatar has not had in the world cup.
like it or not, these two teams will be chasing the perfect three points to secure a temporary position.
I agree with you. Ecuador's match against Qatar will not be easy. If you watch the match between Qatar and Ecuador in the last World Cup, you will definitely see that they were defeated by Qatar. But I think this match will be easier for Ecuador for Qatar because this time Qatar hosted the World Cup in their own country. Therefore, the conditions and audience support will help the Qatari footballers a lot I think Qatar will win the first match of 2022 World Cup. Qatar has an advantage that Ecuador doesn't have, they are the hosts, moral support from the public will flow to the Qatar squad when competing later, although this will not have a big impact especially on the quality of the players.
Ecuador has a much better experience than Qatar in the World Cup, they have a strong mentality that qatar has not had in the world cup.
like it or not, these two teams will be chasing the perfect three points to secure a temporary position.
I've said it in several posts, Ecuador will not easily beat Qatar, and vice versa. The opening match of the 2022 world cup is quite difficult to predict, in my personal opinion.
Qatar has an advantage that Ecuador doesn't have, they are the hosts, moral support from the public will flow to the Qatar squad when competing later, although this will not have a big impact especially on the quality of the players.
Ecuador has a much better experience than Qatar in the World Cup, they have a strong mentality that qatar has not had in the world cup.
like it or not, these two teams will be chasing the perfect three points to secure a temporary position.
Qatar has an advantage that Ecuador doesn't have, they are the hosts, moral support from the public will flow to the Qatar squad when competing later, although this will not have a big impact especially on the quality of the players.
Ecuador has a much better experience than Qatar in the World Cup, they have a strong mentality that qatar has not had in the world cup.
like it or not, these two teams will be chasing the perfect three points to secure a temporary position.
I certainly do not underestimate the Qatar National team. Even though it participated in the World Cup as the host i think all the teams in this organization are valuable. Also we should not forget that the Qatar National Team is the Asian champion. Asian teams consist of weak squads but Qatar National Team can get good results in the Cup with the advantage of being the home team.
OK.. this is new information for me. I didn't knew that Qatar are the Asian champions. I checked the stats and found out that they defeated Japan (1-3) to lift the 2019 AFC Asian Cup. And before that they defeated the United Arab Emirates in the semi-finals by a margin of 4-0. Won against South Korea 1-0 in the QF stage as well. These are some of the strongest teams in Asia. If Qatar can win against these teams, then it means that they are not as weak as we have thought. Looking at the results, I believe that they have a good chance against Senegal, and to some degree against Ecuador as well.
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No. Nothing, no surprises with Qatar, it is not in that line of surprise characteristics, this situation is similar to the 2010 World Cup when it was expected that South Africa would give some surprise or at least not be eliminated in the first phase, and it became the first host to not pass the phase, well at least Qatar will no longer have that reference. Qatar lose 2 games for sure and maybe draw one, but surely they won't get past the initial phase.
No. Nothing, no surprises with Qatar, it is not in that line of surprise characteristics, this situation is similar to the 2010 World Cup when it was expected that South Africa would give some surprise or at least not be eliminated in the first phase, and it became the first host to not pass the phase, well at least Qatar will no longer have that reference. Qatar lose 2 games for sure and maybe draw one, but surely they won't get past the initial phase.
Yeah, I agree.
In Qatar's group I'm pretty sure the The Netherlands and Ecuador will pass to the next stage. Qatar only has a chance to end in 3rd place in that group, competing with Senegal.
I don't see how Qatar could end up first or second in that group.
Miracles can happen... in the same way as in the world olympics where we had the revelation of several unusual and unexpected athletes, why do you believe that the same cannot happen in the world cup?
But realistically, I agree with you that the chances of Qatar making it past the group stage are extremely low, but we can't rule out that possibility.
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No. Nothing, no surprises with Qatar, it is not in that line of surprise characteristics, this situation is similar to the 2010 World Cup when it was expected that South Africa would give some surprise or at least not be eliminated in the first phase, and it became the first host to not pass the phase, well at least Qatar will no longer have that reference. Qatar lose 2 games for sure and maybe draw one, but surely they won't get past the initial phase.
No. Nothing, no surprises with Qatar, it is not in that line of surprise characteristics, this situation is similar to the 2010 World Cup when it was expected that South Africa would give some surprise or at least not be eliminated in the first phase, and it became the first host to not pass the phase, well at least Qatar will no longer have that reference. Qatar lose 2 games for sure and maybe draw one, but surely they won't get past the initial phase.
Yeah, I agree.
In Qatar's group I'm pretty sure the The Netherlands and Ecuador will pass to the next stage. Qatar only has a chance to end in 3rd place in that group, competing with Senegal.
I don't see how Qatar could end up first or second in that group.
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I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
No. Nothing, no surprises with Qatar, it is not in that line of surprise characteristics, this situation is similar to the 2010 World Cup when it was expected that South Africa would give some surprise or at least not be eliminated in the first phase, and it became the first host to not pass the phase, well at least Qatar will no longer have that reference. Qatar lose 2 games for sure and maybe draw one, but surely they won't get past the initial phase.
Qatar seems to me by far the worst team that participates in terms of quality? The players are used to playing football in the heat, other players from other countries have that less. They also have the home crowd behind it and will be hugely motivated as this is probably the only World Cup they will ever be allowed to compete in. In the group with the Netherlands and Senegal and Ecuador, there is still a group where you have chances. The Netherlands seems to me to be the winner of the group, Senegal is the 2nd best but Qatar has the advantage that they play the opening match against Ecuador, they could still win if things go well.
With home advantage and fans are also going to behind them for this mega event as most chances this is only world cup for them or most chances as FIFA is going to increase number of teams than they are able to qualify again in future with these all advantages most chances they will be able to have one or three points against Ecuador because currently these both teams are level in quality and having chance for home team with Senegal is recently won AFC cup, and they have few quality players with this they are not going to allow them for having any chance against them and Netherlands is surely going to top this group with this all just Ecuador can allow them for this honor. 
Qatar seems to me by far the worst team that participates in terms of quality? The players are used to playing football in the heat, other players from other countries have that less. They also have the home crowd behind it and will be hugely motivated as this is probably the only World Cup they will ever be allowed to compete in. In the group with the Netherlands and Senegal and Ecuador, there is still a group where you have chances. The Netherlands seems to me to be the winner of the group, Senegal is the 2nd best but Qatar has the advantage that they play the opening match against Ecuador, they could still win if things go well.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
I certainly do not underestimate the Qatar National team. Even though it participated in the World Cup as the host i think all the teams in this organization are valuable. Also we should not forget that the Qatar National Team is the Asian champion. Asian teams consist of weak squads but Qatar National Team can get good results in the Cup with the advantage of being the home team.
The opening ceremony is always a pretty good thing for every world cup performance and this is always awaited. Now that we can see how beautiful and unique it is when we are in Qatar, obviously with their wealth I don't think I will mess with this.
As for the match, maybe this will be a difficult thing because Qatar is one of the weakest, especially there they also have the AFCON Champion who can be the underdog for a big team and the Netherlands which is still one of the candidates for the current championship.
As for the match, maybe this will be a difficult thing because Qatar is one of the weakest, especially there they also have the AFCON Champion who can be the underdog for a big team and the Netherlands which is still one of the candidates for the current championship.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
Believe it or not now Qatar even though they have developed but if you look at the team that is in the same group with them it is clear they are at the bottom in terms of quality because indeed the opponents they will face are the Netherlands with a very good performance for now, Ecuador with the dark horse title in the Americas and Senegal zones who incidentally are the recent AFCON champions.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
Qatar may even be playing better, but do you really think they will be able to do better than Ecuador or the Netherlands? I'm not even going to talk about Senegal.
They can even create some complications, maybe Ecuador will have more difficulties, and the second place will be between the two (Ecuador and Qatar).
At least in this case the hot environmental factor that makes other teams not used to playing in this kind of weather makes them slightly superior in terms of endurance.
They wouldn't be able to say much but of course they wouldn't give up early either.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
It is not exactly saying Qatar is bad, but more like saying Netherlands and Senegal is much better. I mean Senegal is the African winner, and Netherlands is Netherlands, we all know how amazing they are. This is why I have to say that nobody gives Qatar a chance and I think it is going to be something quite simple to make sure that they are not good because very first game will be a trouble for them I suppose, and everyone will see how terrible they are.This is why We are not saying Qatar is bad directly, we just compare, if we were talking about Qatar as bad, I would say they wouldn't be able to get out of "any" group, all I am saying is that it is not this group.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
Qatar may even be playing better, but do you really think they will be able to do better than Ecuador or the Netherlands? I'm not even going to talk about Senegal.
They can even create some complications, maybe Ecuador will have more difficulties, and the second place will be between the two (Ecuador and Qatar).
The opening ceremony is probably going to be spectacular, the crowds are going to be there supporting their local team, but honestly, I don't think Qatar has any chances of winning against Ecuador.
In my mind the best result they can get would be a draw, probably 0 - 0.
The opening ceremony is always a pretty good thing for every world cup performance and this is always awaited. Now that we can see how beautiful and unique it is when we are in Qatar, obviously with their wealth I don't think I will mess with this.In my mind the best result they can get would be a draw, probably 0 - 0.
As for the match, maybe this will be a difficult thing because Qatar is one of the weakest, especially there they also have the AFCON Champion who can be the underdog for a big team and the Netherlands which is still one of the candidates for the current championship.
I don't know why you guys are underestimating Qatar national team, they have developed very well in the past years. They are the winners of the last Asian Cup where they knocked out South Korea and Japan, and defeated Saudi Arabia in the groups round. I watched all their matches, they showed high quality performance and great commitment in the field. I know Wold Cup is very different competition because they will face teams from other continents with different playing styles, and Asian teams were always the weakest, yet I believe Qatar may do something.
There were a lot of rumors and controversies so loudly heard before and after Qatar was set as the 2022 host. However, the fact that the hosting of the World Cup in Qatar has not changed since Qatar was appointed to host since 2010.
There are many other controversies that have developed to date.
At the FIFA congress which was held in Doha, last March, there were protests at the congress, one of which was the president of the Norwegian Football Federation, in addition, protests were also present from football players, one of which was a football legend from Bayern Munich, Phillip lahm.
however, despite the controversies. I think it's hard to imagine Qatar trying to buy a referee, as you said, I'm always optimistic and positive thinking that things like that don't happen as long as this tournament goes on until the end.
There are many other controversies that have developed to date.
At the FIFA congress which was held in Doha, last March, there were protests at the congress, one of which was the president of the Norwegian Football Federation, in addition, protests were also present from football players, one of which was a football legend from Bayern Munich, Phillip lahm.
however, despite the controversies. I think it's hard to imagine Qatar trying to buy a referee, as you said, I'm always optimistic and positive thinking that things like that don't happen as long as this tournament goes on until the end.
I don't think that Qatar would try anything like this. Already there is a lot of controversy regarding the issue of laborer deaths and LGBT rights. They definitely don't want anything new. Also, Qatar is participating in the FIFA world cup for the first time. That itself is a big achievement for them (although they qualified automatically as the host and not through AFC qualifiers). I guess if they manage one draw against either Ecuador or Senegal, the Qataris should be very happy. But in all probability, they will finish at the bottom of Group A.
Argentina I find hard to judge right now. I think that this World Cup is a bit more about luck then it used to be. In the past we had some very balanced team, first and foremost Spain for many years. This year I am not sure, there isn't really a team that is perfectly balanced from the keeper to the offenders. Argentina was often incredibly strong in the offense, but had their blatant weaknesses in the defense.
I don't feel the world cup is now more about luck, for example it is not possible for an underdog team to win the world cup out of nowhere. Argentina are contenders, they made it to the final in 2014, though they lost to Germany, this world cup is Messi's last and that is more motivation for them, i am not saying that it is enough to make them victorious, but it can be a morale booster. There are some national teams that are favorites to win the world cup this year, they are the strongest, the likes of France, Germany, England, Brazil, Argentina, i feel the world champion will emerge from one of these countries.There were a lot of rumors and controversies so loudly heard before and after Qatar was set as the 2022 host. However, the fact that the hosting of the World Cup in Qatar has not changed since Qatar was appointed to host since 2010.
There are many other controversies that have developed to date.
At the FIFA congress which was held in Doha, last March, there were protests at the congress, one of which was the president of the Norwegian Football Federation, in addition, protests were also present from football players, one of which was a football legend from Bayern Munich, Phillip lahm.
however, despite the controversies. I think it's hard to imagine Qatar trying to buy a referee, as you said, I'm always optimistic and positive thinking that things like that don't happen as long as this tournament goes on until the end.
There are many other controversies that have developed to date.
At the FIFA congress which was held in Doha, last March, there were protests at the congress, one of which was the president of the Norwegian Football Federation, in addition, protests were also present from football players, one of which was a football legend from Bayern Munich, Phillip lahm.
however, despite the controversies. I think it's hard to imagine Qatar trying to buy a referee, as you said, I'm always optimistic and positive thinking that things like that don't happen as long as this tournament goes on until the end.
I don't think that Qatar would try anything like this. Already there is a lot of controversy regarding the issue of laborer deaths and LGBT rights. They definitely don't want anything new. Also, Qatar is participating in the FIFA world cup for the first time. That itself is a big achievement for them (although they qualified automatically as the host and not through AFC qualifiers). I guess if they manage one draw against either Ecuador or Senegal, the Qataris should be very happy. But in all probability, they will finish at the bottom of Group A.
Well, it's a secret for Andie that the Fifa World Cup in Qatar will be quite a feat, in my opinion I think they are going to do and show things that are very advanced in technology, more or less what I expected for the World Cup in Japan and Korea , I am hopeful that I will see it in this one, and with regard to refereeing as well, because I have seen that they will make many improvements, not only the VAR that they have also achieved in the way of cheating, because in the end the referee is the one who has the last word, So this is something that without a doubt we will see, at least I have the hope that it will be like that, otherwise I don't think this World Cup will disappoint us.
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