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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 03, 2022, 09:30:33 PM

I can see a lot of posts favoring France in this thread. It looks as if the French team are the favorites to win this world cup. But I am quite skeptical about the chances of France. I don't believe that the issues that came to forefront during the Euro 2020 has been resolved. There are major issues with team bonding. Players are behaving selfishly and not passing the ball. And I don't think that players such as Adrien Rabiot and Kylian Mbappe are in talking terms, after the confrontation between their family members. No matter how skilled the players are, if the bonding is not there, then they are not going to win. Period.

But if France doesn't win the World Cup, then obviously they will lose to some team, right? So you must name at least one team that is better than France and win it. It's not that I believe in France's victory, but if you think objectively, every team has problems and France does not look like the most problematic team of all.

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Certainly France will be a country that is considered strong in the future World Cup, because the previous champion is them, plus the young players they have now, have good quality playing in their respective clubs, talking about the World Cup is still quite a lot of factors that will affect Certain countries to win the champion, not only won the previous trophy, I think there are several countries that will advance to the final, one of which is France, Brazil and Spain

LOL.. you guys never get tired of propping up France, right? Well.. world cup is just a few months away. Let's see how your favorite team performs. This is not 2018. A lot of things have changed. France of 2022 is a lot different from France of 2018. Even if we look among the European teams, I would say that at this point Spain and England are ahead of France. And in case Pogba is unable to play, as a result of the injury, then things will get even worse for them. Anyway, these are just my personal judgments. Can be wrong.

I totally agree with you. I don't find any similarity between the performance of the France team in 2018 and the performance of the current France team. However, most of the players in the squad remain unchanged, and they have also got a talented star player like Mbappe. But the team performance could not improve it. On the other hand, Spain is a young team but their overall performance is better than France.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on August 04, 2022, 08:49:45 AM

Certainly France will be a country that is considered strong in the future World Cup, because the previous champion is them, plus the young players they have now, have good quality playing in their respective clubs, talking about the World Cup is still quite a lot of factors that will affect Certain countries to win the champion, not only won the previous trophy, I think there are several countries that will advance to the final, one of which is France, Brazil and Spain

LOL.. you guys never get tired of propping up France, right? Well.. world cup is just a few months away. Let's see how your favorite team performs. This is not 2018. A lot of things have changed. France of 2022 is a lot different from France of 2018. Even if we look among the European teams, I would say that at this point Spain and England are ahead of France. And in case Pogba is unable to play, as a result of the injury, then things will get even worse for them. Anyway, these are just my personal judgments. Can be wrong.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 03, 2022, 01:00:39 PM

France is the reigning World Cup champion who is certain to return to being one of the favorites to win the 2022 World Cup, and the depth of the French squad is extraordinary ahead of the 2022 World Cup. And opponents France will of course have to rack their brains against a team of very good quality on all fronts.
and the new squad and youth squad for the French team were also successful and tested, being able to win the 2021 UEFA Nations League title by beating Spain in the final.

Certainly France will be a country that is considered strong in the future World Cup, because the previous champion is them, plus the young players they have now, have good quality playing in their respective clubs, talking about the World Cup is still quite a lot of factors that will affect Certain countries to win the champion, not only won the previous trophy, I think there are several countries that will advance to the final, one of which is France, Brazil and Spain

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Quote from: YOSHIE on August 02, 2022, 11:50:03 AM

Not only France, several other football teams such as Belgium, Spain, Italy, Denmark, croatia, Portugal, England, Germany are also the best teams in the 2022 UEFA Nations League.

In my assessment, there are several countries that pose a serious threat to other countries, which can win the FIFA world cup in Qatar 2022, England made great progress by bringing in their best players for the world cup in Qatar, Belgium is also a threat to other teams, Portugal are not a few of their favorites in winning the next world cup, after Cristiano Ronaldo was terrorized after being declared to have qualified for Qatar, Germany, the Netherlands, Brazil, Uruguay as well as a reliable team, which cannot be underestimated.

I think making a choice for the world cup in Qatar, it's too early, of course everyone has a favorite team, but in betting the favorite team is not a real mainstay to win, the situation and development of the team on the field will determine the team can win.

I have reason why choosing France as favorite country on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar, looking on line up team between regular and substitute not have different quality and France manager Didier Deschamps have many option with player name. All position from France become regular position with top team on La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and Primer League. I don't underestimate with other countries like Portugal, Belgium and Brazil or Argentina, but all countries you mention have different level between regular and not regular position, exactly some of them not playing with top team on European countries like La Liga or Primer League and Serie A.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 03, 2022, 01:00:39 PM

France is the reigning World Cup champion who is certain to return to being one of the favorites to win the 2022 World Cup, and the depth of the French squad is extraordinary ahead of the 2022 World Cup. And opponents France will of course have to rack their brains against a team of very good quality on all fronts.
and the new squad and youth squad for the French team were also successful and tested, being able to win the 2021 UEFA Nations League title by beating Spain in the final.

Expectations are so high for France to be able to defend the title. This can be seen from the depth of the squad they have, which has a number of quality players who occupy every line. But we all don't need to be so sure even though they have everything. Because this is the World Cup, it is certain that each country will show their best game to beat the opponents they will face.

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Quote from: wmaurik on August 04, 2022, 12:30:10 AM

Quote from: zaki12 on August 03, 2022, 01:39:27 PM

yes, I agree with you apart from being the defending champion France squad under the direction of Didier Deschamps is a complete squad. The French national team have a lot of high quality players, a lot of talent, they are a very complete team. at least, they have big capital to win in the 2022 World Cup. They have experience of winning and know the way perfectly.

That is indeed true because the potential of the French national team at this time is still very strong and France could have many more wins at the 2022 World Cup.
Although other unexpected things can also happen in this 2022 World Cup, because other national teams besides France also have strength even though they are not balanced with France. Which, however, France needs to look at other national teams more seriously so that no one will be underestimated by France.

when you want to create a more serious game atmosphere, this can be seen from the coach who provides direction for them to be able to play more enthusiastically and give the best contribution to their proud clubs, this is an important task for the coach to be able to win and be able to show that the team from France can play well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 03, 2022, 09:30:33 PM

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I can see a lot of posts favoring France in this thread. It looks as if the French team are the favorites to win this world cup. But I am quite skeptical about the chances of France. I don't believe that the issues that came to forefront during the Euro 2020 has been resolved. There are major issues with team bonding. Players are behaving selfishly and not passing the ball. And I don't think that players such as Adrien Rabiot and Kylian Mbappe are in talking terms, after the confrontation between their family members. No matter how skilled the players are, if the bonding is not there, then they are not going to win. Period.

Yeah, I agree. I'm not sure this world cup will end up in the hands of France.

I can think of many teams that will probably have more chances, for example Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, just to name a few. Definitely France will perform great, and probably go to the next stage, but I reckon they won't make it to the final given the vast amount of great teams in this world cup.

Right now, situation is completely like we have in Champions League peoples were talking about PSG and Manchester City but at the end we have Real Madrid as winner. I am feeling we are talking about France and Brazil but most chances both teams are not going to win this title, and we will have winner from Germany, Argentina and England these three teams are doing very good and have ability to win this event in current circumstances.

Some are feeling Pogba injury is going to be vital for France maybe this happens but for me, they are not going to win this title as they are having some issues which need to change, but things are not favoring them which is the biggest point for them in coming world cup.

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Quote from: zaki12 on August 03, 2022, 01:39:27 PM

yes, I agree with you apart from being the defending champion France squad under the direction of Didier Deschamps is a complete squad. The French national team have a lot of high quality players, a lot of talent, they are a very complete team. at least, they have big capital to win in the 2022 World Cup. They have experience of winning and know the way perfectly.

That is indeed true because the potential of the French national team at this time is still very strong and France could have many more wins at the 2022 World Cup.
Although other unexpected things can also happen in this 2022 World Cup, because other national teams besides France also have strength even though they are not balanced with France. Which, however, France needs to look at other national teams more seriously so that no one will be underestimated by France.

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The FIFA rankings are always suspicious because they use a complex formula to determine the rankings and that is why they produce such weird results, now do not get me wrong Belgium is a good team but they are not the second best national team around the world, as there are several teams I would put ahead of them without thinking about it and I am sure a great deal of the fans and experts will agree with me about it.

I think there is also a lot of manipulation from certain national teams who deliberately play against weaker teams in order to maintain a better ranking on the FIFA list and have a place among the holders when drawing groups for world and European competitions.
That's why we have situations where Belgium can be at the very top of the list, even though they don't deserve it in terms of quality.
I think FIFA should value the results in continental and world competitions much more and not take into account the results of friendlies.

This has always been a point of contention, friendly matches should not ever be considered for the rankings because there are simply too many factors that are not at work when a friendly match is played, not only many of the star players do not play those matches or do not play at 100%, there is also no pressure at all during those games, if you win or lose nothing happens, while in a real competition winning or losing means everything and every single detail is important since you do not know if that detail will be the difference between moving to the next round or being eliminated from the tournament.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 03, 2022, 09:30:33 PM

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I can see a lot of posts favoring France in this thread. It looks as if the French team are the favorites to win this world cup. But I am quite skeptical about the chances of France. I don't believe that the issues that came to forefront during the Euro 2020 has been resolved. There are major issues with team bonding. Players are behaving selfishly and not passing the ball. And I don't think that players such as Adrien Rabiot and Kylian Mbappe are in talking terms, after the confrontation between their family members. No matter how skilled the players are, if the bonding is not there, then they are not going to win. Period.

Yeah, I agree. I'm not sure this world cup will end up in the hands of France.

I can think of many teams that will probably have more chances, for example Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, just to name a few. Definitely France will perform great, and probably go to the next stage, but I reckon they won't make it to the final given the vast amount of great teams in this world cup.

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Quote from: zaki12 on August 03, 2022, 01:39:27 PM

yes, I agree with you apart from being the defending champion France squad under the direction of Didier Deschamps is a complete squad. The French national team have a lot of high quality players, a lot of talent, they are a very complete team. at least, they have big capital to win in the 2022 World Cup. They have experience of winning and know the way perfectly.

I can see a lot of posts favoring France in this thread. It looks as if the French team are the favorites to win this world cup. But I am quite skeptical about the chances of France. I don't believe that the issues that came to forefront during the Euro 2020 has been resolved. There are major issues with team bonding. Players are behaving selfishly and not passing the ball. And I don't think that players such as Adrien Rabiot and Kylian Mbappe are in talking terms, after the confrontation between their family members. No matter how skilled the players are, if the bonding is not there, then they are not going to win. Period.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 03, 2022, 02:25:43 AM

Yes, there is no doubt that there is always a country that is the biggest favorite. However, usually in the World Cup, the favorite countries can't even perform optimally and have to be knocked out in the knockout phase, some of them even have to go home in the group phase. Not infrequently also the country that is the defending champion even destroyed in the group standings.

That is what makes the world cup unique because it is always more difficult to guess which country will survive and take the world cup until the final phase.
Indeed there are some strong countries and are favorited by many fans now, but to be able to become world champion is not on how many people favor a particular country, but on the consistency of the players in terms of winning every game until the end.

Yes, that's right, even a star-studded country can't necessarily beat a country that is considered weak.
By the way, if we talk about the country that will be the dark horse in this World Cup, it seems that it will be very interesting for us to see. Because usually the country can get rid of the favorite country.

I do not think that a dark horse candidate would be able to win the title this year. It would be pretty impossible not because it hasn't been done before, but because we have a lot of teams who look great. We already have the semi-finals "locked" in with Argentina, Brazil, England and France but of course these teams may face each other beforehand so I do not know.

But at the very least, I know that it is not going to be that easy for us to see any other dark horse because there will be a few other teams like Belgium or even Italy, so when there are that many that we already know which are good, how could there be a team we do not know about which could win, if it was just 1 or 2 candidates then it could have been possible.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 03, 2022, 01:00:39 PM

France is the reigning World Cup champion who is certain to return to being one of the favorites to win the 2022 World Cup, and the depth of the French squad is extraordinary ahead of the 2022 World Cup. And opponents France will of course have to rack their brains against a team of very good quality on all fronts.
and the new squad and youth squad for the French team were also successful and tested, being able to win the 2021 UEFA Nations League title by beating Spain in the final.

yes, I agree with you apart from being the defending champion France squad under the direction of Didier Deschamps is a complete squad. The French national team have a lot of high quality players, a lot of talent, they are a very complete team. at least, they have big capital to win in the 2022 World Cup. They have experience of winning and know the way perfectly.

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France is the reigning World Cup champion who is certain to return to being one of the favorites to win the 2022 World Cup, and the depth of the French squad is extraordinary ahead of the 2022 World Cup. And opponents France will of course have to rack their brains against a team of very good quality on all fronts.
and the new squad and youth squad for the French team were also successful and tested, being able to win the 2021 UEFA Nations League title by beating Spain in the final.

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I think all countries have a chance to win the Qatar World Cup, including Belgium.

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What I mean here is that all countries have the same opportunity but with different percentages. I know and won't generalize all of them, but they all have them even if they are very small. If someone says that a country has no chance at all, they are wrong in my opinion. Because again they have even a small percentage chance.

Come on! Let's not go into technicalities, the answer is no. They do not have the probability of winning the World Cup, although the calculations give them a probability of 0.0000001% (e.g.) from the point of view of mathematics it is not zero, but it is an unlikely event that will happen.

You are the typical case of failed hope or the classic delusional, the probabilities exist to determine precise facts and avoid the "hope" theme that is distorted in these sports cases, obviously we want a miracle, but the closer it is to zero it becomes improbable , the World Cup is a good example, only a few will achieve it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 03, 2022, 02:34:31 AM

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we all know that.
but in the match later we will not really know, so far we have only guessed and tried to predict the slightest possibilities. Well, even I don't have big expectations for the Portugal squad to qualify for the next round, there is Uruguay there as a strong competitor.
I even hope that South Korea can hold Portugal to a draw, maybe Ghana will give us a surprise that we haven't predicted so far. So far it's just guesswork and opinion, I'm really waiting for the Qatar world cup to start soon, it will be a betting event involving emotions and joy.

I almost forgot about South Korea. Thanks for mentioning about them. Who can forget the match between Germany and South Korea in 2018? Two goals in the extra time (Kim Young-gwon and Son Heung-min), and Germany sank without any trace. But overall, I have found the performance of Asian teams to be below par, when compared to the other nations. Japan and Saudi Arabia have disappointed their fans, and the same can be said about Iran as well. And this time also, I am not expecting much from AFC teams.

Of course we remember very well how Korea survived and was lucky from Germany onslaught and won the match, it was very painful for Germany at that time, Football is full of surprises.
I agree, if the squad from asia didn't stand out too much and was far from the standard to win this championship, they have lost far to all other countries. even so, I think they deserve high appreciation after all, they will do their job well even though the target to become a champion is far from expectations.

and I hope that Korea can put up a tough fight in the group stage even though they have to work hard for it. I think Portugal journey will not be so smooth in the group stage.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on August 02, 2022, 11:50:03 AM

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I have choose France as favorite team for FIFA World Cup in Qatar because they have good reputation on qualifier stage although not really impressive performance on UEFA Nation League last several months.

Not only France, several other football teams such as Belgium, Spain, Italy, Denmark, croatia, Portugal, England, Germany are also the best teams in the 2022 UEFA Nations League.

In my assessment, there are several countries that pose a serious threat to other countries, which can win the FIFA world cup in Qatar 2022, England made great progress by bringing in their best players for the world cup in Qatar, Belgium is also a threat to other teams, Portugal are not a few of their favorites in winning the next world cup, after Cristiano Ronaldo was terrorized after being declared to have qualified for Qatar, Germany, the Netherlands, Brazil, Uruguay as well as a reliable team, which cannot be underestimated.

I think making a choice for the world cup in Qatar, it's too early, of course everyone has a favorite team, but in betting the favorite team is not a real mainstay to win, the situation and development of the team on the field will determine the team can win.

Looking at the 2022 games, France, England and some other teams are not really the best in the Nations League. They showed terrible results and are now at risk of falling down a tier. It is clear that at the World Cup they will try to show a completely different game, but there are no guarantees that they will be able to do this.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 03, 2022, 02:25:43 AM

Yes, there is no doubt that there is always a country that is the biggest favorite. However, usually in the World Cup, the favorite countries can't even perform optimally and have to be knocked out in the knockout phase, some of them even have to go home in the group phase. Not infrequently also the country that is the defending champion even destroyed in the group standings.

That is what makes the world cup unique because it is always more difficult to guess which country will survive and take the world cup until the final phase.
Indeed there are some strong countries and are favorited by many fans now, but to be able to become world champion is not on how many people favor a particular country, but on the consistency of the players in terms of winning every game until the end.

Yes, that's right, even a star-studded country can't necessarily beat a country that is considered weak.
By the way, if we talk about the country that will be the dark horse in this World Cup, it seems that it will be very interesting for us to see. Because usually the country can get rid of the favorite country.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on August 02, 2022, 03:57:09 AM

I believe there will always be a dark horse team that will make it difficult for the strong favorite teams to win easily in the preliminary phase. for this year, it looks like some big countries also finally did not qualify for Qatar. anything is possible in football. and we could see an unfavorable team in the quarter-finals.
I will still support Brazil for this year's world cup trophy.

Brazil is one of the countries that still exists and can show their quality where the Brazil World Cup has a special place with its history. In the group phase, where Brazil has to compete with friends, such as Serbia, Switzerland and Cameroon, these countries are not like the hell group where Spain, England, and Group H are occupied by Portugal.

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