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With Argentina and Brazil, both are coming from South America with having too many quality players but not good enough combination as mostly players are playing in different leagues, and they have no good practice which is also very important for the strong result.
that's not a big problem as long as the players from those football countries can build very good chemistry between any players. It doesn't matter if any members in the national clubs have been playing in the various competition. The main point is about how to build a very good relationship between one to the each other and it's not about having different play style will affect their performance. You're a bit wrong about that
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The point is that every country cannot rely on only one player in every match, because joint connectivity is needed, Leonel Messi is not as sharp as before and I think Argentina can still play and compensate for other strong countries, but to reach the finish as champions in The World Cup is quite difficult, because there are still many other countries who have great players and they almost have a squad that plays in various competent leagues, Brazil, Spain and Germany can be a strong challenger
Players from each country are also included in the team even though the name of the country is mentioned, so obviously you can't rely on just one player because each team needs cooperation to bring victory to their country. I think this world cup will be much more exciting to watch because there are a lot of great young players to be seen on the pitch.

Football is not a sport played with a single player. You are a team with 11 players  and you are trying to beat the opposing team. I mean, a team can have a star player, but if the rest of the team can't adapt to it, success won't come. Look, Messi has been criticized for years in the Argentina national team. They couldn't get the expected efficiency from him, but we all know that Messi is one of the two best football players in the world individually.
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This time World Cup is going to be more interesting as we have some tough teams around with many players are going to be having personal achievements which need this event as their main target of career if we are able to check than surely no team is 100% perfect and all are going to be in same level because they are coming from tough competitions and having few quality players as well but right now talking who is hot favorite and who can go through into last four is not easy because France is most decorated team and England is having back of few very good and quality players those are having game of life in this even.

With Argentina and Brazil, both are coming from South America with having too many quality players but not good enough combination as mostly players are playing in different leagues, and they have no good practice which is also very important for the strong result.

It has always been, someone is very titled, someone wants to show themselves or achieve some goal, but it has always been very difficult to predict who will get to the final. France and England have looked very weak in recent games, so it may be that this World Cup will not be successful for them. The World Cup is always a big event, which each time will attract a larger audience, it is a football festival where the strongest will win, it remains to wait not so long and we will find out who will be the winner.
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This time World Cup is going to be more interesting as we have some tough teams around with many players are going to be having personal achievements which need this event as their main target of career if we are able to check than surely no team is 100% perfect and all are going to be in same level because they are coming from tough competitions and having few quality players as well but right now talking who is hot favorite and who can go through into last four is not easy because France is most decorated team and England is having back of few very good and quality players those are having game of life in this even.

With Argentina and Brazil, both are coming from South America with having too many quality players but not good enough combination as mostly players are playing in different leagues, and they have no good practice which is also very important for the strong result.
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~snip~ In this World Cup, we have few surprising favorites which are not fitting in public views but bookmakers still feeling good from them like England and Germany is also here as Dark Horse because their form is not good but still many feeling they can do good in this event.


History shows that England have only made it to the World Cup final once and won at home in 1966. And at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar, the England squad has put all its strength into performing at its best in the biggest sporting event of football in the world.
There are 4 key players who will be the mainstay of England.

Harry Maguire is an irreplaceable young player in defense who is able to defend well. Maguire is a fast growing potential player and will help England in the 2022 world cup.

Declan Rice is a young England midfielder who is strong and able to pick up and flow the ball well, it is not uncommon to play in a position parallel to the center back to create more passing options.

Phil Forden is a versatile player. He can play the role of right/left winger, attacking midfielder, and striker equally well. No wonder he became the mainstay of ammunition for Gareth Southgate at the World Cup.

Harry Kane As captain of the England national team and also as a sharp striker with an extraordinary ability to score goals, he also has a good vision of the game like a regista. He can also be a good bouncer or feeder for his partner who moves in the second line area. Kane also has a special passing vision.
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2018 did have some surprises. Like Germany being eliminated in the group stage by Japan or South Korea. That won't happen again. France then became world champions, with the toughest match in the semi-final against Belgium that they only just managed to win. I thought Belgium should have been world champion then, but in the end Croatia was also very good. Croatia has secretly been close a few times, but with Croatia you do not immediately think of a World Cup title. But that's because Modric is still there. England is one of the favorites, but they haven't won anything for a long time and don't function as a team, And also a very mediocre coach.
It's not all about 2018 if you can check soccer World Cup history it's full of these shocking results like South Korea won against Germany and Germany outclass Brazil at their home with score of 7 - 1 and many other results and game like these happen, and surely we will have few upsets here in Qatar as well because we have top ranked teams those are going to fight against each other for title race and all will do their best for having positive result from their games.

In this World Cup, we have few surprising favorites which are not fitting in public views but bookmakers still feeling good from them like England and Germany is also here as Dark Horse because their form is not good but still many feeling they can do good in this event.
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England is one of the favorites, but they haven't won anything for a long time and don't function as a team, And also a very mediocre coach.

I don't understand why so much pessimism about England.
Five years ago, England won the U-17 World Cup and the U-20 World Cup, so for 2022 I believe they have good players in a position to get very close to the World Cup finals. Their project in the youth divisions is one of the shortcuts to success, led by coach Gareth Southgate who managed to return the country to the semi-finals of the World Cup and also decided to win the Euro title against Italy at Wembley.
Another great differential of England is the fact that they have a good striker. Few title contenders, including Brazil, enjoy a number 9 shirt. Harry Kane is an expert in scoring goals, and in addition to him there are also stars in all positions, such as midfielder Sterling. And above-average full-backs from other countries like Alexander Arnold, Trippier, and Reece James are all Premier League players.
England is a team that needs to be respected.
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Russia roster is there, everyone could check it. The whole idea of Russia being in "European" competitions never really made any sense to me anyway, they are bordering china and India, and you think that's somehow Europe because they also border Europe? If you check the maps of the world, they are mainly in Asia and not in Europe.

And they were not only in it, they also had a stadium in there as well, they made a change and made it a whole Europe type of thing. They finished last in their group and they sucked of course, that was much known, if you can't get out of that group, then you have no business being in the world cup to begin with, would be just a filler.
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2018 did have some surprises. Like Germany being eliminated in the group stage by Japan or South Korea. That won't happen again. France then became world champions, with the toughest match in the semi-final against Belgium that they only just managed to win. I thought Belgium should have been world champion then, but in the end Croatia was also very good. Croatia has secretly been close a few times, but with Croatia you do not immediately think of a World Cup title. But that's because Modric is still there. England is one of the favorites, but they haven't won anything for a long time and don't function as a team, And also a very mediocre coach.
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Argentina at the moment have been in fine form since making an appearance in the Copa America and were able to win the trophy, they have lots of talented players and they look more ambitious this time. France to me are the favourites to win this World Cup because of the kind of squad they have, players like William Saliba, Karim Benzema, Dembele, etc with very good squad but their form has being pretty poor. Anyways, they could still come back stronger with time. The same with the Brazilian team with good squad and talented players, they also stand as contenders for the world cup this year.

Undoubtedly the teams that you just named are the favorites, but I don't know what to think about Portugal, we can't forget that CR7 is here and this is his last World Cup and I don't think anything will be saved, I think he will save everything in this World Cup , if patra QAtar represents the last World Cup for CR7, Messi, and maybe for Neymar Jr, I think those teams will go for the kill because they will not leave anything for free, now in the World Cup we will see a great show, this is something that many of us believe expected, unfortunately we will not see Ibrahimovic's Sweden, nor the beloved Italy that we miss so much, everything would be perfect if these two more teams were there.
But there will be no North Macedonia in Qatar, so Germany is safe  Grin
I agree about Pandev as well as about any other great players from the "small" football countries. Therefore, if we talk about individual achievements, I always rate the World Cup extremely low (even lower than the Europa League) - after all, a player, no matter how good he is, cannot go to a more ambitious national team and compete for it if he was born in a country where football is poorly developed.
I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.
BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.
But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.

I really think that no team should be underestimated in World Cup. Because when it comes to a tournament no team is absolutely unable to win. We don’t have to go too far back to you see that as well. We can just look at that 2018 World Cup Russia.

Russia was an underdog in the World Cup but they have proved that they can also do great things. Honestly, none of us expected Russia to do so well in the World Cup. So I don’t think there is any way to underestimate any team who has already qualified for the World Cup.

In my opinion, the best team going into the World Cup is obviously France. But we all know that they did not perform very well in the UEFA Nations League. So, I wonder how they are going to perform in the World Cup.

Why do you think Russia was successful and did well in the 2018 World Cup? Well, they were already eliminated in the quarter-finals, which was not such a great and desired result for them as the hosts of the tournament. In the past, Russia achieved much better results at the world championships.
If we want to mention the national teams that really achieved great and unexpected results at the world championships, it is certainly Croatia, which was third at the World Championship in 1998, and second in 2018, after they lost in the final against France.
What can we say about South Korea, which, as the host of the 2002 World Cup, was fourth in the world?
As for this world championship, the obvious favorites are France and Brazil, but we still have at least 4-5 more national teams with reasonable chances to win the world championship, so we are expecting a very uncertain competition and small details and luck will decide, as always.

You are right, in fact it made me go back when Italy played with South Korea, at that moment I remember that I skipped a class, I was still in high school, and I saw how the Ecuadorian referee unfairly whistled very much in favor of Korea, and everything was very unfair, in fact one of the things that made me stop liking that world cup was because they eliminated Italy from the world championship very unfairly, with the best generation I would have seen, players who are legends and then it was found that the referee was drunk , he was taking drugs and that he was completely out of control, this was a consequence of the total corruption that existed in FIFA that these things really damage the sport, I hope that in the World Cup in QATAR things like these are not seen.

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But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.
I do agree that big clubs played badly in nations league but that was only because they didn't care about that and it is only a glorified friendly and nothing more. Now? Now we are talking about that actually means something and that is why I agree that it is going to be something special.

I know for a fact that England would not play the same for example, because they wouldn't be changing the line up to see who is available, they will be actually putting all the best they could into this, and play the way they know, they barely lost the Euros just recently. So, I believe that we are in for a big ride, and that is going to definitely be awesome for all the viewers.

I'm not sure that teams will evaluate the World Cup as seriously as previous World Cups. Team competition in the middle of the season? Against the background of the fact that Infantino threatens to hold the World Cup every two years? It seems to me that the importance of this World Cup has already been compromised, of course it will be evaluated more seriously than the League of Nations due to historical reasons, but how much?
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But there will be no North Macedonia in Qatar, so Germany is safe  Grin
I agree about Pandev as well as about any other great players from the "small" football countries. Therefore, if we talk about individual achievements, I always rate the World Cup extremely low (even lower than the Europa League) - after all, a player, no matter how good he is, cannot go to a more ambitious national team and compete for it if he was born in a country where football is poorly developed.
I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.
BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.
But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.

I really think that no team should be underestimated in World Cup. Because when it comes to a tournament no team is absolutely unable to win. We don’t have to go too far back to you see that as well. We can just look at that 2018 World Cup Russia.

Russia was an underdog in the World Cup but they have proved that they can also do great things. Honestly, none of us expected Russia to do so well in the World Cup. So I don’t think there is any way to underestimate any team who has already qualified for the World Cup.

In my opinion, the best team going into the World Cup is obviously France. But we all know that they did not perform very well in the UEFA Nations League. So, I wonder how they are going to perform in the World Cup.

Why do you think Russia was successful and did well in the 2018 World Cup? Well, they were already eliminated in the quarter-finals, which was not such a great and desired result for them as the hosts of the tournament. In the past, Russia achieved much better results at the world championships.
If we want to mention the national teams that really achieved great and unexpected results at the world championships, it is certainly Croatia, which was third at the World Championship in 1998, and second in 2018, after they lost in the final against France.
What can we say about South Korea, which, as the host of the 2002 World Cup, was fourth in the world?
As for this world championship, the obvious favorites are France and Brazil, but we still have at least 4-5 more national teams with reasonable chances to win the world championship, so we are expecting a very uncertain competition and small details and luck will decide, as always.
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Argentina comes to Qatar with positive capital, namely the 2021 Copa America champion, the 2022 Finalisima champion. And an unbeaten record since 2019. I think this will be the capital for Argentina to win the world cup. I agree with you, Argentina is not only Messi but there are many other potential players.

Past accomplishments don't guarantee anything, especially if we're talking about tournaments like the Copa América (where Argentina has one big rival, Brazil) or the Finalisima, FIFA's next "important" one-game tournament. Argentina has a good team, but there will be many good teams at the World Cup and they will definitely not be the favorite there. As for Messi, even earlier, from tournament to tournament, his contribution was unstable, so it is not known how well he will play in Qatar.
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The point is that every country cannot rely on only one player in every match, because joint connectivity is needed, Leonel Messi is not as sharp as before and I think Argentina can still play and compensate for other strong countries, but to reach the finish as champions in The World Cup is quite difficult, because there are still many other countries who have great players and they almost have a squad that plays in various competent leagues, Brazil, Spain and Germany can be a strong challenger
Players from each country are also included in the team even though the name of the country is mentioned, so obviously you can't rely on just one player because each team needs cooperation to bring victory to their country. I think this world cup will be much more exciting to watch because there are a lot of great young players to be seen on the pitch.
I'm just curious why so far only Argentina and Messi have been candidates for the world cup title, whether it's because this is Messi's last chance or purely because Argentina's squad is great in every position. But I doubt if you think about every great Argentine player in every position, because you only attribute him to Messi. Meanwhile, Messi is currently at PSG saying not having a good performance but for some reason, then they think Messi is capable of winning the world cup title with Argentina while his performance has decreased and that is reflected in some of his feedback at PSG.
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But there will be no North Macedonia in Qatar, so Germany is safe  Grin
I agree about Pandev as well as about any other great players from the "small" football countries. Therefore, if we talk about individual achievements, I always rate the World Cup extremely low (even lower than the Europa League) - after all, a player, no matter how good he is, cannot go to a more ambitious national team and compete for it if he was born in a country where football is poorly developed.
I agree with the last part. A few weeks ago, I posted here that African countries would perform really good in the world cup, if players like Pogba, Lukaku and Boateng decide to represent the country of their origin instead of the UEFA teams. But as you posted, there is no guarantee that these teams would even qualify for the world cup. If Lukaku decides to represent Democratic Republic of Congo instead of Belgium, then there is a possibility that the former may fail to qualify and we may never see him in the world cup.
BTW, I don't have any personal enmity with these players. Lukaku was born in Belgium, and it is his choice to represent that country.
But as for the first part, we can remember how badly played (and not in one game, but in several at once) the teams of France and England in the League of Nations. And this does not prevent them from being the favorites for the upcoming World Cup. I think we can evaluate Germany in a similar way. In fact, it is not known which of these teams will be in what shape at the World Championships, plus how luck will turn out. I would not underestimate Germany.

I really think that no team should be underestimated in World Cup. Because when it comes to a tournament no team is absolutely unable to win. We don’t have to go too far back to you see that as well. We can just look at that 2018 World Cup Russia.

Russia was an underdog in the World Cup but they have proved that they can also do great things. Honestly, none of us expected Russia to do so well in the World Cup. So I don’t think there is any way to underestimate any team who has already qualified for the World Cup.

In my opinion, the best team going into the World Cup is obviously France. But we all know that they did not perform very well in the UEFA Nations League. So, I wonder how they are going to perform in the World Cup.
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however, messi performance at psg is not the real benchmark.
flashback before, their achievement is quite slick because without defeat, they won 11 times and drew six times. Messi and colleagues finished as runners up in the qualifying round, and Argentina became one of the favorites to win the Qatar World Cup.

Argentina has a line of talented players, Lautaro Martinez, Paulo Dybala and also some pretty strong midfielders and defenders. I think they will play well and work together to win the title this time. so the Qatar World Cup tournament is not just about messi, but a whole team that goes to Qatar to win the title for his country.
well let's wait for the world cup tournament event to start.

Argentina comes to Qatar with positive capital, namely the 2021 Copa America champion, the 2022 Finalisima champion. And an unbeaten record since 2019. I think this will be the capital for Argentina to win the world cup. I agree with you, Argentina is not only Messi but there are many other potential players.
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The point is that every country cannot rely on only one player in every match, because joint connectivity is needed, Leonel Messi is not as sharp as before and I think Argentina can still play and compensate for other strong countries, but to reach the finish as champions in The World Cup is quite difficult, because there are still many other countries who have great players and they almost have a squad that plays in various competent leagues, Brazil, Spain and Germany can be a strong challenger
Players from each country are also included in the team even though the name of the country is mentioned, so obviously you can't rely on just one player because each team needs cooperation to bring victory to their country. I think this world cup will be much more exciting to watch because there are a lot of great young players to be seen on the pitch.
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Nah, that's what im thinking about. The contribution by mess in the previous world cup was a lot. The performance of messi in PSG was not so good as when he was still in barcelona. This may affect the performance of messi in the world cup as well. I doubt that if he will be giving his best performance again for the club. Let's see how it goes.

however, messi performance at psg is not the real benchmark.
flashback before, their achievement is quite slick because without defeat, they won 11 times and drew six times. Messi and colleagues finished as runners up in the qualifying round, and Argentina became one of the favorites to win the Qatar World Cup.

Argentina has a line of talented players, Lautaro Martinez, Paulo Dybala and also some pretty strong midfielders and defenders. I think they will play well and work together to win the title this time. so the Qatar World Cup tournament is not just about messi, but a whole team that goes to Qatar to win the title for his country.
well let's wait for the world cup tournament event to start.
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It's just an assumption behind the reason for their unpreparedness to play for their country, but in fact Argentina have not been lucky to be in the previous world cup, so Leonel Messi is in the spotlight because of his personal qualities, both when he is at the club and playing for his country, football is also not a matter of luck, but how the players and coaches can work together collectively, this is what I don't think they have, so they can't beat the world cup stage, so the trophy is very difficult for them to win, for the future the last world cup for Leonel Messi, this will be the event the final proof for the megastar
The final proof for the megastar does need to be awaited, but I'm not sure that Leonel Messi still has the ability to do that because to take the world cup trophy really requires good cooperation between players and coaches as you have said so that really needs to be highlighted It's a collaboration thing, not just for someone like Leonel Messi.
With this is team event and just one or two players can't do anything to win because a strong team combination can give upper hand to any team right now Messi is desperate for this win because this is only trophy which is missing from his career and legendary name things are not easy for them right now but still they are doing good job recently and have good chance for going through in last teams which are strong enough for win this title.

As usual, we have two strong contenders from South America for this event and few quality teams from Europe which are usually doing good in last two decades now we have to watch for last result as these both teams can break strong hold of Europeans, or again they are going to win and having another event in their name and going to rule for another four years on soccer world.
Unfortunately for Messi soccer is a team sport and even if a single player can still have a massive impact he was unable to win the world cup when he was at the peak of his ability, and now that he is not as good as he was before he will need more help from his teammates in order to have a chance, and while I think Argentina has what it is needed to go far in the tournament I am not so sure they have what it is necessary to beat other strong teams like France and Brazil.
The point is that every country cannot rely on only one player in every match, because joint connectivity is needed, Leonel Messi is not as sharp as before and I think Argentina can still play and compensate for other strong countries, but to reach the finish as champions in The World Cup is quite difficult, because there are still many other countries who have great players and they almost have a squad that plays in various competent leagues, Brazil, Spain and Germany can be a strong challenger
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Argentina's opportunity to win the 2022 world cup in Qatar is still there and wide open for him, as well as for other countries that have entered the 2022 world cup in Qatar.
But it will not be possible if the Argentine players do not have good cooperation between players and also a good strategy from the coach himself and besides Lionel Messi's current performance is no longer as epic as it used to be.
Once a legend, always a legend. Form is just temporary. It is the class that matters. And we all know that this is going to be the last world cup for Messi. So we can expect him to perform at optimal level this time around. And I agree with the odds given by various sportsbooks. Brazil is the most favored team from the CONMEBOL region. Argentina has sent a very strong side this time, but at least on paper they are below Brazil. At this point, they are 3rd on the FIFA rankings. Brazil is on top, followed by Belgium. A couple of years ago, Argentina was outside top-10. And that shows how much improvement they have made.
I think is will be the last world cup of Renaldo too. Messi and Ronaldo will come up stronger in this game.
Since they will be playing their last world cup. What an amazing era of football they have give to the history.

In the future, there are obviously going to be a lot of players who will probably be better than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo but for two people to dominate the football world for so long side-by-side is probably never going to happen. As long as these two players have shared the stage, we have taken it from the ground, and when they leave, we will definitely miss them. This rivalry was not like any other. This was, is, and will be one of the greatest rivalries of all time.

But it hurts me to say that Lionel Messi will probably not be able to lift the World Cup. This is because there are a lot of better teams heading into the World Cup compared to Argentina. But who knows, I might be surprised!
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