Added 2 Bitcoin tumblers recently launched : Yomix.io and Mixero.io

Mixero.io
I noticed there is a 3rd fee applied. You don't see it, unless you read the "About" page. So, there are the network fees, the service fees and the fees its 'technologies' take (0.0005 BTC and 0.0002 BTC per extra address).
At least it's clairly written and not hidden to people.


Yomix.io
Don't see it as a negative point I'm bringing. I scrached my head because that's perhaps the first time I see a mixer with such ToS
Basically, as a French citizen, I'm not allowed to use the service:
Prohibition of use By using the service you also agree that you are NOT an individual who is a resident of any country of European Union (the "EU")[/quote]

Yet the site is translated in a few EU languages. Basically it means the mixer could freeze your coin. You can argue any other mixer can also freeze the coins, and it's right. But can I trust a service saying I'm not allowed to use the service, so can I trust a service that can do whatever with my coins? (hopping you see my point).
I believe it's done to protect the business but knowing the whole mixer business is mainly based on trust...

 

Mixers are more and more on the radar of The US (recently Tornado, blender.io before,...)
The Treasury Department suggests that sanctions should be applied to Bitcoin mixers "to reduce the risk of money laundering" and "deter entities" residing in Russia, Iran, North Korea and elsewhere from laundering money via mixers

"...Mixers are a concern..."


https://www.cointribune.com/analyses/institutions-entreprises/crypto-encore-plus-de-sanctions-contre-les-melangeurs-de-cryptomonnaies/
https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/the-competing-priorities-facing-u-s-crypto-regulations-bitcoin-ethereum/

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I updated the list to add a newcomer, Mixy.money
(ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61036967)

All others are up and ready to mix!

I notice that JoinMarket is not in your CoinJoin list.

⭐Name: JoinMarket
🔹Clearnet link: download at https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver
🔹Tor link:
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-joinmarket-coinjoin-that-people-will-actually-use-919116
🔹Fees: Varies. Typically, around 0.0001% per participant per round, or about 0.005%
🔹Minimum amount: Varies

All is fine, blindmixer is both a mixer and a wallet. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blindmixercom-closed-5363757



You're wrong because the real website is Anonymixer.com and not .org
The guy above is just another scammer looking to pollute the web

It is not a new mixer.
The site has been running since 2020 and has a representative here on the forum : [ANN] Anonymixer - the Anonymous Bitcoin Mixer
The site is also on the OP list. Please check before posting :


Btw , LeGaulois please update the info about this mixer ; the minimum amount to mix is 0.001 according to the info displayed in their homepage.

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Another note about Blindmixer, It seems that the site changed the domain name or that it changed its service. This link refers to a wallet service and not to a Mixer. I may be wrong with something, please check.

- Added Unijoin.io to the list. 1 or 2 others will be added during the week

- Bitcoin mixer activity reaches an all-time high. The 30-day moving average of BTC sent to mixers hit a record $51.8 million in April. In Q2 2022, the amount sent to mixing services exceeded $600 million. Ukraine vs Russia has a major impact on the use of crypto mixers.

Look like Blender.io is possibly still active.... using other mixers.

last week's report from Chainalysis Crypto Mixer Usage Reaches All-time Highs in 2022 With Nation State Actors and Cybercriminals Contributing Significant Volume

I can not, sorry. The demand for ETH mixers is so low and the supply so close to zero that the risk to be scammed is so high. Hence, everything that can be found on the web is surely 101% a scam. Even with what you can find on this forum, you should be extremely careful

In your shoes, I would prefer to make swap using an instant exchange, a DEX, or a CEX with no KYC.
ETH>Anycoin>ETH. You won't probably see a difference in the fees, and you can use a BTC mixer between if you want.

Tornado cash is the only one I know and to be honest I consider it as a "not so good" solution (depending on how anonymous you want to be of course). It's ok if you want to pay your whore of the week, less if the money comes from a hack

But this list is about Bitcoin mixers.

Nonetheless, checkout ETH-Mixer.com
This is their thread, though not active - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/we-decided-to-stop-working-on-the-project-2930843 (I can see a couple of members had some issues, one got his resolved.

I am not vouching for them since I have never used the service, so I advise you to;
1. DYOR
2. Proceed with caution and send in small test amounts to see if the mixer works

Hello, Who can advise working, proven Ethereum mixers. Except for the tornado.

Another mixer closes the doors. Removing Foxmixer.com.

If you visit the website there is an empty page with a message claiming the service has been seized. True or not, it doesn't matter a lot but usually when a domain is seized there is a more explicit template about it, with a message from who/what, according to X or Y.
It seems like a fake page to me, to exit the business with a valuable excuse. There is nothing wrong if your business doesn't work, mistakes happen to everyone.

the code show nothing more than

Could you let us know which two mixers you tried but didn't work? This would be helpful for other members to avoid the same mistakes.


Yes.

Is this a serious question? If anyone in this world has tried bitcoin mixer, definitely it was Chipmixer. It's the most known and reputable mixer out there.

Hi,

Can someone who has used one that works recommend me a Mixer that does work? I have tried 2 and neither have worked.
Has anyone tried ChipMixer?
thanks

I just found false crypto mixers

the-crypto-mixer.org
tether-mixer-anonymous.org
ethereum-mixer-eth-mixer.com
eth-ethereum-mixer.org
ether-mixer.org
eth-mixer.org
ethereum-mixer-anonymous.org
best-ethereum-mixer.org
bitcoinlaundry.online
bitcoin-laundry.mx
bitcoinlaundry.org
bitmix.it
bitmixbiz.com
bitmixr.biz
bitsmix.biz
bitmixbiz.com
veio.io

All appear on bing

Wasabi starts blocking certain transactions to its CoinJoin mixing protocol. Crazy but true.

I'm totally disappointed by their move and a large setback. The "certain transactions" are not defined but since it was done to protect their company from hackers and scammers' funds (as they say), we can have a guess but who knows how deep they go. They may end up with a partnership with Elliptic, Chainanalysis and co.  
If they were not under a company, they wouldn't need to take such action that we could name censorship.

As of now, the zkSNACKs coordinator will start refusing someUTXOs from registering to coinjoins. Either you switch to joinmarket or run the coordinator and configure wasabi for you., I don't know, but I'm sure I have never see a mixer with such acts

Cloudflare is a private company. I know they are offering tons of bells and whistles, and they keep adding to their portfolio on a regular basis. To much to keep up for me anyways.
But the features you seem to be reffering to is their feature to upload your own certs and keys, and the feature for keyless ssl?
I never used these features, but i looked them up for a discussion i had a long time ago, so i'm aware of their technicality's. If i remember correctly (i didn't re-read the whitepaper, this stuff comes from memory) the first feature gives cloudflare all the tools to generate symmetric keys themselves, the other just gives them only the symmetric keys (and you host some kind of service on your host to let them request a new symmetric key).
These service *might* look "better" to the untrained eye, but in fact they are worse: when you use them you're even hiding the fact that cloudflare acts as a MITM (but they still are!!!). When you use these services, your customers will never know cloudflare can (and will!!!) decrypt every package they exchange.

The bottom line is very, very simple and does not differ from which package you buy or which technology they implement: their proxy REQUIRES them to decrypt the traffic between (what the visitor thinks is) the visitor and the webhost.
Why? Well, you know those nice features they offer: DDos protection and their CDN? Both these things are built on the fact that they keep a big cache of DECRYPTED data from YOUR host on their datacenters. When a client requests a page, they HAVE to be able to see what the client requested (so they HAVE to decrypt the request), then they can see if they have the requested data somewhere on their servers (UNENCRYPTED). When they don't have the data in their cache, they WANT the data in their cache, so they request it from the host, DECRYPT it, and PUT it in their cache before (or after) re-encrypting it and sending it to your client.

That's why they're able to offer DDos protection: your data is on so many geo-located servers, and they're so big, an attacker just can't muster up a botnet that's so big he/she can tear down cloudflare. They'r still DDos'ing, cloudflare does not stop them, cloudflare just absorbs the requests... Maybe they block them after a while, IDK, but in the first place they just absorb them due to the fact they have your data anyways, and they have dozens of copy's of your data all around the world, so let a botnet request a couple million of copy's: they don't care.

That's why they can speed up your site: they have copy's of most of your content all over the world on fast servers: a client downloads most of your content directly from cloudflare (and not from you), from a fast server close-by.

And in the end it doesn't matter if you use cloudflare's SSL, you upload your cert+key or you run "keyless ssl" by running a local deamon to generate symmetric keys.... If you use the proxy, they have your data.... Which is bad for a mixer.

And the thing is (and i've said this before): i wouldn't even mind all that much if the mixer operators had any clue as to what they were doing and warned their clients... Like @LeGaulois already said: some people won't care if law enforcement knows who they are, they just want $5 wrench protection.
But the very least a mixer operator should do is plaster a big warning on their clearnet site about the fact that the clearnet version is cached by cloudflare and both cloudflare employees and law enforcement. At least this would demonstrate the fact the mixer operator knows enough about this techology to run a mixer.

But by acting like most mixer operators do when i point out they use cloudflare (shrugging, telling me other do the same thing), i get scared.... Very scared.... How can you trust the algorithm, the code, the workflow of a mixer operator who doesn't understand the slightest thing about why a MITM is bad for a mixer? When i see the reactions from mixer operators, i always wonder what their code would look like.... Or maybe they're running their operation from shared hosting? Or maybe.... Well horror scenario's pop to mind....

Maybe you didn’t quite understand me. I meant that the problem with ssl certificates is even more interesting than it seems.

For example, if I register for cloudflare and pay a $10 tariff, my certificate will be visible to everyone as an outsider. And if I pay $200, I can download any certificate, but the private key is still on cloudflare. And I can order private DNS. How carefully you examine the site before visiting it.

I see your point of view... And i do agree... You're in a grey area yourself, you're not really a mixer, so maybe you can get away with using cloudflare's SSL certificates... This being said: three letter agencies might still find it usefull to know who your partners are, so i wonder if it wouldn't be better to use an x3 certificate instead of cloudflare's. Offcourse, you'd lose DDos protection, your website responsiveness *might* drop (if you were using slow hosting, or a high latency dc), and you'd use a little bit more bandwith.

I actually pointed this out to you in august 2018!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.44815063

Here's your reply:

At this moment, your platform is enabling 7 mixing services (when looking at https:  //    jambler.io /mix -coins.  php). 6 have a clearnet presence, 3 of them use cloudflare, and one does not use ssl at all (what?). I know there are your customers, but maybe giving them a nudge in the right direction wouldn't be to bad? Only 3 out of 7 of your clients got it right... Some kind of guidance from you side would probably be a good thing for privacy as a whole.

@LeGaulois: you make a valid point aswell... For some people, "moderate" privacy against non-law enforcement might be enough... I know i have never actually needed protection against the law, i'd still like them to keep their nose out of my business tough
The main problem, which is the same for cloudflare SSL certificates and tor: not everybody is tech savvy, not everybody will do their homework... A lot of people will just use google to find a mixer, look at the green padlock, read the promo text and mix their coins, thinking they are now anonymous... A lot of people won't look at which certificate is issues by who, they won't look up nameservers or dns records, they won't inspect the code for embedded javascript,... They certainly won't download the tor proxy and start using the tor mirror... They are average people that want privacy, they trust the mixer in question, and in the end, they usually don't get the privacy they payed for... Granted, 99% of them don't *need* said privacy, they still payed for it, they  trusted the mixer, so they should get that privacy (wether they need it or not).

But that's just my opinion

That doesn't matter: the certificate handles the traffic between the user and Cloudflare, not between Cloudflare and the server. See this post (about Bitcointalk, but it applies to any site that uses Cloudflare):
Or my own (layman) explanation: Cloudflare can only stop DDOS if they know what traffic is coming in. In order to stop only the attack and not all data, Cloudflare has to decrypt everything.

I understand part of your concern. And it would be interesting to hear your opinion. For example, the site may have a certificate issued by an outside organization, but it will still use cloudflare services, you will never know, but you will be sure of your safety.

And I’d like to point out one thing. Jambler, for example, is not a mixer, it’s a platform for the rapid deployment of mixers. The end-user who does not want to advertise the sending and receiving addresses and other data does not address to the site jambler, and not mediocre to our partners. Also, all default partners have a version of tor that helps raise the level of anonymity.