2023 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites - page 4.

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Quote from: anonymixer on August 04, 2023, 05:33:47 AM

The Anonymixer clearnet website was fine yesterday, but today is under another 100,000+ unique IP DDoS attack again, apologies for the inconvenience.

I am not a network engineer but isn't it possible using an industrial router to collect all of those IPs from web server logs, and add all 100k IPs to its firewall at once without significant performance penalties?

Maybe if there are hardware load balancers, they can be used so that the routers are not overwhelmed.

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Updated with

- @mocacinno's topic link on Mixers using cloudflare's SSL certificate added
- Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes or No added. (Ddos-guard.net goes in the same bag as Cloudflare to me. They're both potential MITM attack vectors)
- Whirlwind.money removed

to summarize what happened with Whirlwind (if someone isn't aware)

Quote from: LoyceV on August 14, 2023, 03:33:25 AM

So, to summarize(and correct me if I got anything wrong):

The website isn't profitable (yet)
Deposits are working
The website claims to pay a very high 12% APR on deposits
The daily awards aren't always being added
Withdrawals stopped working 5 days ago
The signature campaign payments happen off-chain and thus can't be withdrawn now
User whirlwindmoney hasn't been here for more than a month
Support doesn't respond to inquiries

No matter what the reason is, this looks bad.

Quote from: decodx on August 16, 2023, 02:04:00 PM

Type 3 Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3197

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Quote from: LeGaulois on August 03, 2023, 06:22:53 PM

But now the question is: is it possible to run a BTC mixer without using third-party companies?

The Anonymixer clearnet website was fine yesterday, but today is under another 100,000+ unique IP DDoS attack again, apologies for the inconvenience.

The clearnet site ~~should be back up by the end of today~~ is up, without help from Cloudflare, DDOS-Guard or any other third party service.

It would take just one secretive subpoena from US Government to force Cloudflare to silently collect all traffic for 12 out of 17 mixers on this list, eavesdropping and destroying privacy for their users and similarly little pressure from "International Partners" to force DDOS-Guard to do the same for the remaining 4.

UPDATE: Clearnet site is back up - hope the 100k+ strong botnet enjoys it

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 03, 2023, 01:11:31 AM

True for CM
And who was alive during these periods, and who is still alive nowadays

But now the question is: is it possible to run a BTC mixer without using third-party companies?

The attacks are pretty severe and despite spending hours trying to fight them off on their own, they are not able.
So much so that they've given up and turned to cloudflare/ddos-guard.

DDos a site doesn't cost that much. It was a bit expensive 15-20 years ago, but nowadays for ~1500 euros, I can take your site down for a whole month. You can imagine the damages if I ruin your business for 1 month.

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Even loyce.club had a DDOS last month.

Interesting...
(Are you aware if @Tryninja and others dudes have been hit too?)

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Quote from: LeGaulois on August 02, 2023, 06:44:39 PM

- The tendancy to DDOS mixers started a few days after Chipmixer was shut down (confirmed by more than 1 guy)

Don't forget that CM was often plagued by DDOS too. It was the reason they gave up on the clearnet version entirely.

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 14, 2023, 03:51:52 PM

There is definitely a tendancy recently to attack the bitcoin mixers, and more than usual

Even loyce.club had a DDOS last month. For all I know it's the DDOS protection companies doing it Tongue

Mob style, offering "protection" Tongue

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An additional detail will be added to each site to find out who is using clouflare & co.
Not a bad idea, isn't?. It's a point that may be important for some people, so why not, eh

Reminder:
So far, Anonymixer.com is the only one which has always refused to embrace a solution, with all the risks that this may represent for some people.

Me, years ago:

Quote from: LeGaulois on May 12, 2020, 06:51:54 AM

Between blackmail extorsions, I even suspect that some Mixers attack other Mixers, among other methods they use

Me, a few days ago:

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 14, 2023, 03:51:52 PM

There is definitely a tendancy recently to attack the bitcoin mixers, and more than usual

Still avalaible nowadays, no matter if the service is new or old. If you follow the niche, you know who has been hit. (Sinbad, Whirlwind, ...)
I bring some facts I collected here and there the last few days

- "There are about 4 or 5 services facing a ddos attack the last few days. It means ~30% of the market. "
- It doesn't matter if the site is old (a contender) or a newcomer (not a serious contender yet). Thormixer is the perfect example. As soon as it appeared on the scene, it was attacked.
- The tendancy to DDOS mixers started a few days after Chipmixer was shut down (confirmed by more than 1 guy)

Make your own opinion but I have an adage: follow the money

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on July 14, 2023, 10:00:38 AM

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2023, 09:35:52 PM

A new mixer in the town, Thormixer

This is just an alert
I discovered that the site is offline today (both the clearnet and Tor mirror, which somehow rules out the possibility of a DDoS attack). I am not sure how long it has been off but let's give it some days or weeks and see if it will be back up.

The site is online. Clearnet and onion. But im working on the web to improve the service and some parts will be unstable throughout some days. Don't worry, it will be completely online again soon. Be patient please. Thanks.

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2023, 09:35:52 PM

not using our dear friend Cloudflare.

We activated Cloudflare after a rude DDoS attack that we could only endure for a few days. It is temporary while I look for another solution, but I wanted to inform you here.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2023, 09:35:52 PM

A new mixer in the town, Thormixer

This is just an alert
I discovered that the site is offline today (both the clearnet and Tor mirror, which somehow rules out the possibility of a DDoS attack). I am not sure how long it has been off but let's give it some days or weeks and see if it will be back up.

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A new mixer in the town, Thormixer

⭐Name: Thormixer
🔹Clearnet link: https://www.thormixer.io/
🔹Tor link: amwnnncglaw27kfomeiszq4eltwkktnkdzjg6kbtjwb2w3zgysatjead.onion
🔹Fees: 4% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Maximum amount: 50 BTC

not using our dear friend Cloudflare.
The code is Python, HTML and CSS, no JS.
Offshore server outside of the 5-9- 14 Eyes alliances.

Minimum and Maximum amount
Can anyone help me to complete this?
I've forgotten the numbers since this afternoon, and I can't open the website. (machine with parental control )

Not needed anymore.
TY

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Quote from: LeGaulois on June 30, 2023, 07:36:58 AM

Quote from: foolazz22 on June 30, 2023, 02:53:01 AM

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Hi

I was there a few days ago.

Surely because the website is again under a DDOS attack.
Quoting myself:

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The website was fighting with a huge DDOS attack and since they refuse absolutely to use any MITM service (Cloudflare and co.)

The .onion URL is working fine currently

Taking this long to get it running. Still cant access it. EDIT: yep seems onion is running fine.

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Edit: the website is back online
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Quote from: foolazz22 on June 30, 2023, 02:53:01 AM

...

Hi

I was there a few days ago.

Surely because the website is again under a DDOS attack.
Quoting myself:

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The website was fighting with a huge DDOS attack and since they refuse absolutely to use any MITM service (Cloudflare and co.)

The .onion URL is working fine currently

foolazz22

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Cant reach https://anonymixer.com. Has been the case for a while now.

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Quote from: icopress on June 26, 2023, 12:33:55 PM

Man, update the thread link for Mixy.Money (they lost control of the old account and created a new account and a new thread).

Everything is up to date Sir.

Not only the thread link, but the onion URL and the fees.
I noticed the onion URLs aren't the same, and the Telegram too, but there are surely reasons.

(Suggestion: the website is still displaying their old ANN topic's link)

Quote from: PawGo on June 24, 2023, 12:36:57 PM

I'm sure the demand for altcoins mixers is near too zero, hence we've have never seen them growing
Bitcoin tumbler can be a very very profitable business if you have something new to offer compared to others.

The volume is very fluctuating but hard to say based on what.

I would love if mixers could give some data to play with and then make statistics (I like stats and mathematics) but I'm just dreaming. I know none of them can do that Grin

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Quote from: PawGo on June 24, 2023, 07:00:14 AM

Are there any mixers for other coins than Bitcoin, for example BCH? How it would work with ETH?

There are several mixers for ethereum (similar like tornado cash), but there is already monero that has built in ''mixer'' that is much better than any other centralized shitcoin mixing service.
I think that litecoin also introduced mimblewimble for better privacy, and bch has cashfusion mixing with electrum cash wallet, but I don't think volume is very good.
If you want to mix ethereum it's best to atomic swap it with monero and than maybe swap in bitcoin.

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Man, update the thread link for Mixy.Money (they lost control of the old account and created a new account and a new thread).

At the moment, I also keep in touch with them (let me know in case you have additional questions).

Quote from: Mixy Money on June 26, 2023, 12:09:25 PM

We have returned! 🐱

Unfortunately, we have lost access to the old account, so from now on this is our official Bitcointalk account.

Please keep in mind that in case of disputes, you should send a letter of guarantee ONLY to our e-mail or telegram bot.

Quote from: Mixy Money on June 26, 2023, 11:22:44 AM

Code:

Contacts: https://t.me/MixyMoneyBot, mixy.money(at)proton.me

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Quote from: LoyceV on June 24, 2023, 09:57:26 AM

I've seen mixers for altcoins in the past, but can't tell you if they're reliable.

Quote from: LeGaulois on June 24, 2023, 11:18:18 AM

There are plenty!!! ... but all of them are scams.

Interesting. I wonder what is ROI, daily/weekly volume etc in case of BTC mixers and how it is related to the market cap. Entry threshold? Do these numbers make altcoins mixers unprofitable or there is just no need for them? BCH has around only 0.5% of BTC market capitalization, but is it the answer?

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Farewell, Leo

I think that the best way to mix an altcoin is to do atomic swap with XMR.

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Quote from: PawGo on June 24, 2023, 07:00:14 AM

There are plenty!!! ... but all of them are scams.

On a serious note, for BCH, I remember about the wallet "Cashshuffle" but I can't comment about it.
I'vee seen mixers as a web-based service but they're gone (privcoin, weimixer,...) or decided to stop their service and instead create a BTC mixer
(exemple)

As for ETH, there are certainely smart contract mixers

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Quote from: PawGo on June 24, 2023, 07:00:14 AM

Are there any mixers for other coins than Bitcoin, for example BCH?

I've seen mixers for altcoins in the past, but can't tell you if they're reliable.
BCH also has has "CashFusion" built into it's Electrum fork.

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I know it is probably not the best topic for my question, but I did not find a better one and I do not want to create a new one.

Just out of curiosity:
Are there any mixers for other coins than Bitcoin, for example BCH? How it would work with ETH?

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