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legendary
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August 20, 2024, 09:18:28 PM
@Poker Player. She appears to be drunk on alcohol when she speaks hehehe. There are also different videos and articles criticizing her for using different accents in her speeches. If she is in the deep south, she uses deep southern accent. If she is in the midwest, she uses midwestern accent. I very much want to listen to her speech in New Jersey to witness her New Jersey accent hehehehe.

Also, this is good news for the supporters of the Donald Trump. He has the lead again after the opening hype on Kamala.

https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1724203015124
legendary
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August 19, 2024, 01:35:35 AM
OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

I've heard a conspiracy theory on the subject, but since I don't quite believe it, I'll spare you. The normal thing is that there are people who hate Trump and vote for any Democratic candidate instead of him but that many millions are there?

Also, to me Kamala doesn't seem very articulate speaking.

I would still put my money on Trump but I expect any outcome, more so when the election is decided in a few swing states.
legendary
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August 18, 2024, 11:26:41 PM
OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

Similar to what I have mentioned before, Trump's loss of his momentum presently is not bad. It would be bad if this loss of momentum will be on October or the last weeks before the election. Trump can begin increasing is campaign activity again on the first week of October and create maximum activity on the 2 weeks before the election. Maintenance of momentum from today to election day is impossible and this might also cause something similar to an exhaustion of funds, their team's energy and the people's attention. Trump's ratings is also very much near Kamala, this is very good for their campaign and easy to recover hehe.
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August 17, 2024, 09:11:30 PM
Small chance for Biden to return, also having seen his condition i don't think the people think he is fit for the job, also that failed trump assassination or we don't know, is a big blow and will really lean on trump side, everyone is fulling the strings to hold their post but the people will decided, on the bright side Elon siding with trump makes us think brighter about crypto and also trump showing in the bitcoin conference is a great deal.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 06:42:40 PM
(...) Notice how Trump speech has started to become more and more extreme to the right, making it unappealing to the independent voters, only appealing for the Maga people he already had in his pocket.

I'm not American, so might not be properly looped in on the recent affairs, but what exactly did he say that could be considered an "extreme" right-wing (if this term means anything anymore at all)?
I've noticed he's getting a lot of criticism for not being enough right-wing, i.e. supporting mass legal immigration or being unconditionally pro-Israel rather than pro-USA.

On the other hand, Kamala a Harris is trying not only to appeal to the core democrat base of the USA, but also those independents who do not feel like giving a chance to.Trump, polls are an image of it so that is why Trump is getting his odds changed.

But does she have any support outside of people who not want Trump to win? i.e. have you met anyone who would legitimately think she's a presidential material?
She's coming across as very fake and off-putting.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 06:20:23 PM
OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?

With all the wacky and unprecedented things which have been going on in the United States, including the failed assassination attempt against him, it is possible he has reached a ceiling of people who can appeal to with his speech and his political rethoric,.you know. The only people left to convince for a vote are rather moderate and I decided whether to vote for republicans of democrats. Notice how Trump speech has started to become more and more extreme to the right, making it unappealing to the independent voters, only appealing for the Maga people he already had in his pocket.
On the other hand, Kamala a Harris is trying not only to appeal to the core democrat base of the USA, but also those independents who do not feel like giving a chance to.Trump, polls are an image of it so that is why Trump is getting his odds changed.

Still does not mean much, as odds can chance and polls can be wrong.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 06:04:03 PM
OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 05:01:47 PM
The exchange lawsuit was about Binance allowing Russians to move money in and out of USA, which was banned at the time, you want Binance to have rights to do stuff nobody else can do? No bank can do it, no company can do it, but binance should be able to do it? Why give them the right? Why should Binance be able to when nobody else can? They didn't even punish them right away, they warned them, Binance didn't care and still kept going. It's such a simple lie that it's so easily proven to be wrong.

I did not completely understand the lawsuit against Binance, to be honest. ws it because they allowed Russian assets to be move around the world through Binance or was it because it was proven some extremist groups in the middle east were able to move money thanks to Binance, going through the alledged security filters which were supposed to be in place?

Regardless the case, I agree Binance is not supposed not be given an special treatment when compared to other banking institutions which would be immediately fined if they violated the terms and rule set by the federal government of the USA.

I would bet those rules and restrictions would not change too much regardless the winner is Trump or Kamala Harris.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 03:22:32 PM
I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.
LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.
Aside from the "possible" 30% tax on proof of work, which would be on their claim helping the off-set the energy they are consuming as a subsidy to energy companies, what else have they done?

In fact, they jailed so many crypto scammers in the last four years, more than any other president has ever done before. So, this "claim" that you have is only based on just a concept of a new law, that is not even passed yet, may pass if given democrats the chance but still hasn't even passed, and there has never been anything else they have done wrong to them. If you really insist and want to make sure that you have all the facts rights, just list us what they have done wrong to ruin crypto, I am waiting for the list, or it's just republican propaganda nothing more.

The exchange lawsuit was about Binance allowing Russians to move money in and out of USA, which was banned at the time, you want Binance to have rights to do stuff nobody else can do? No bank can do it, no company can do it, but binance should be able to do it? Why give them the right? Why should Binance be able to when nobody else can? They didn't even punish them right away, they warned them, Binance didn't care and still kept going. It's such a simple lie that it's so easily proven to be wrong.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 02:18:54 PM
I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.
Do you think that your news feed / social media feed and circle of real life people you see is a good enough sample size? I find that weird. Are you hanging lot around with democrats that voted for biden? Or why do you believe that persons in your life would vote anything other than same as you? I don't personally hang around with anyone who supports trump or right wing, but i wouldn't draw any conclusions like that they wouldn't exist from that.

News feed algorithms are build in a way that they will amplify our confirmation bias. If your close circle of friends has any Harris voters in it, they might have even restricted you, because if you use your time to mock them or use inflammatory language, ask yourself: who needs that on their social media? People are learning that they have right to choose who follows them and whom they share their stories with and banning is getting quite common, just like you wouldn't like people who annoy you in same bar table either.

Imho not knowing peple who are voting for opposition is not in any way good way to predict the outcome,
donator
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August 17, 2024, 02:11:50 PM
I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.
What you are missing (which all of republicans missed in 2020 as well) that this election is not Trump vs Kamala, never was, never will be, it has always been Trump vs Not-Trump, and same was true for 2020 as well because nobody voted for Biden because they loved Biden, and neither will they for Kamala as well.

Trump is such a figure that people do really hate him, or love him meaning that people who vote for him love him, and people who vote for his opponent hate him without a doubt. So that means, it is not about Kamala at all, nobody has to like her, it could be Kamala, it could be you, it could be me, it could be a trash can, doesn't matter who it is, as long as it's not Trump.

This is how Democrats won 2020, someone who hasn't been dragged through the mud, which Hillary was and that's why they lost in 2016, so they realized maybe it's time to just bring in a new player, and that's what they did and everyone joined the bandwagon of hating Trump and voting for his opponent, it's that simple.

I get that it is Trump against not Trump. I just have a hard time understanding why that is for so many seemingly normal people. Sure, if you are mentally ill and want to wear the opposite sex’s clothes while living off the government then Democrats might be the party for you. But why are so many seemingly non-retards still willing to vote against Trump when he literally gave us world peace and prosperity?
hero member
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August 17, 2024, 01:29:02 PM
I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.
What you are missing (which all of republicans missed in 2020 as well) that this election is not Trump vs Kamala, never was, never will be, it has always been Trump vs Not-Trump, and same was true for 2020 as well because nobody voted for Biden because they loved Biden, and neither will they for Kamala as well.

Trump is such a figure that people do really hate him, or love him meaning that people who vote for him love him, and people who vote for his opponent hate him without a doubt. So that means, it is not about Kamala at all, nobody has to like her, it could be Kamala, it could be you, it could be me, it could be a trash can, doesn't matter who it is, as long as it's not Trump.

This is how Democrats won 2020, someone who hasn't been dragged through the mud, which Hillary was and that's why they lost in 2016, so they realized maybe it's time to just bring in a new player, and that's what they did and everyone joined the bandwagon of hating Trump and voting for his opponent, it's that simple.
hero member
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August 17, 2024, 12:46:30 PM
Four years with Joe Biden - Kamala Harris with unfriendly policies and regulations on cryptocurrency market are enough to understand their approach on this industry. It is unrealistic to think that the USA. under Kamala Harris administration (if she gets elected in November) will change immediately and completely after she becomes a President.

Kamala also tries to copy promised policies from Donald Trump and it shows she is not able to think and launch his own good policies to attract citizens and votes.

Kamala Harris is just trying different tactics to win votes from different demographics. Cryptocurrency users represents a numerically insignificant voting bloc, but they are important financially. And unlike the case with 2020 elections, this time Democrats are running pretty low on funds. On the other hand, the Republicans are in good financial health. Now Kamala is desperate for cash, and that is one of the reasons why she is softening her stance on crypto. But once she gets elected, she will show her real face once again. 

She got more money for the campaign. They will pull money out of thin air for her. When Joe is removed from the race she immediately inherits the funds too. So she has the money, she however is just not the most liked politician in the county. Just a little over a month before the Dem picked her, the Dem supposedly will kick her out. They were going to pick someone else because they knew she isn't the president kind. Nobody in the democratic people voted for her but look where she is now,, it looks like she is the ONE.

I listened to Tulsi Gabbard's podcast recently, she is just nailing it. And I can agree with what she is saying and idk there is a presumption that it will be chaos if Harris wins.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 01:15:08 AM
Four years with Joe Biden - Kamala Harris with unfriendly policies and regulations on cryptocurrency market are enough to understand their approach on this industry. It is unrealistic to think that the USA. under Kamala Harris administration (if she gets elected in November) will change immediately and completely after she becomes a President.

Kamala also tries to copy promised policies from Donald Trump and it shows she is not able to think and launch his own good policies to attract citizens and votes.

Kamala Harris is just trying different tactics to win votes from different demographics. Cryptocurrency users represents a numerically insignificant voting bloc, but they are important financially. And unlike the case with 2020 elections, this time Democrats are running pretty low on funds. On the other hand, the Republicans are in good financial health. Now Kamala is desperate for cash, and that is one of the reasons why she is softening her stance on crypto. But once she gets elected, she will show her real face once again. 
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 01:10:53 AM
I've been searching polls, and their ratings are quite close. Maybe this could be one of the closest Presidential Elections in the U.S. Anyway, both parties seem to have become positive about crypto. I doubt they will continue that stance after the election. They are obviously using it because they know it can significantly impact their campaign, considering the number of voters involved in crypto. Anyway, I'll put my bet on Trump this time, just gambling.
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August 17, 2024, 12:44:24 AM
It doesn't really matter if some low ranking Democrat actually supports cryptocurrency. Democrat establishment remains vehemently opposed to the very idea of cryptocurrency. It goes against their very idea of deep state control on citizens. Now what happens is that at least some of the cryptocurrency users get fooled by all these theatrics, and end up donating to the Dems. And they use these funds to go after the cryptocurrency users. Only people like Sam Bankman-Fried are going to benefit from any potential Kamala presidency.
Four years with Joe Biden - Kamala Harris with unfriendly policies and regulations on cryptocurrency market are enough to understand their approach on this industry. It is unrealistic to think that the USA. under Kamala Harris administration (if she gets elected in November) will change immediately and completely after she becomes a President.

Kamala also tries to copy promised policies from Donald Trump and it shows she is not able to think and launch his own good policies to attract citizens and votes.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 12:42:53 AM
I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.


Agreed! Kamala and her team only do this to collect more funding from the communities in the cryptospace, however, they also do this to gather more votes for them and also gather the votes from these people who would have voted for Donald Trump.

If a Democrat will win, we can be quite certain it will be uncle Gary, grandma Warren and white hair Yellen cracking down on the cryptospace and create a CBDC world in America.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 12:23:55 AM
Not all Democrats hate bitcoin or cryptocurrency and the Crypto4Harris campaign was created by those members, and what's more interesting, appears to have no involvement from Harris. Harris is the candidate but the campaign didn't get her endorsement, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The most important person refuses to participate in campaign, so I wonder how voting for her will benefit us.

Also, through this, we realized that the democratic party was just taking advantage of us, they didn't really want to change their anti-bitcoin stance. If they really changed and cared about crypto they should have done it a long time ago like the Republican Party did and needed Harris's participation.

It doesn't really matter if some low ranking Democrat actually supports cryptocurrency. Democrat establishment remains vehemently opposed to the very idea of cryptocurrency. It goes against their very idea of deep state control on citizens. Now what happens is that at least some of the cryptocurrency users get fooled by all these theatrics, and end up donating to the Dems. And they use these funds to go after the cryptocurrency users. Only people like Sam Bankman-Fried are going to benefit from any potential Kamala presidency.
 
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 12:20:10 AM
The way it was described to me was a Harris win so long as she does not wear out her new comer advantage, even though she has been VP for these past years to be a serious contender is new I guess.   Like anyone in politics she has her enemies and just generally anyone famous will have bad things written about them sooner or later, can she last as the 'new girl' till November.

However I think its more about Trump and his near death experience.  That is a definite advantage and swings votes towards him as literally a leader under fire who needs support, some especially on the right will respond to that and vote for him no doubt.    So can that advantage last till November or will any post assassin gains be zero by then.


   At least in the middle ground votes, some will decay to neutral or swap sides thats why they are the swing voters after all.
If theres an hour glass on either on either, its probably mostly Trump.  I do think his odds now as are peaked & favorable as they can be, he must win that debate to have a chance;  if they were to live fact check everything he says and on live TV then he is cooked Tongue

It's just that Trump has been through more extreme things than Kamala, Kamala is just a replacement option for Biden, and Biden was doing badly, he was losing against Trump, I understand all the analysis that can be done within the leadership of the Democrats and the Republicans, but what is visible does not need glasses, there is reality, and as you say, Trump's experience having been so close to death is something that makes Americans believe that he is a committed guy and that he only cares about his nation, plus the majority are disappointed with Biden and his management, that does not help at all.


Unfortunately I think you are right when talking about trump being so close to death.  But talk about recency biased.  This was a man making a speech.  John McCain while serving his country was a POW for over 5 years, with a lot of that time in solitary confinement.  He didn't end up winning but somehow the American people think this is different.  I'm not saying right wrong or indifferent but those 2 events don't remotely come close together so why would trump get in just because of that?
sr. member
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August 16, 2024, 11:57:47 PM
I very much agree. Unions have always supported politicians that are more pointed to the left than the right hehehe. However, the Teamsters union's president have spoken in the Republican convention expressing his support for the Donald Trump which was very shocking for many political analyst. Does this imply that they think Trump is for the people and they think the Democrats are for the rich?

Also, the people in social media have begun to speculate that there will be a Crypto4Harris campaign. The speculation is that Robert Kennedy will be part of Kamala's cabinet to help in bitcoin policies and from this he will express his support for Kamala. This might help gather bitcoin supporters for her.

LOL.. the second part of your post is definitely laughable. Democrats supporting Bitcoin? During the last 4 years, they have done whatever possible in their capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector. More and more regulations on important sectors, lawsuits against major exchanges to name a few. And suddenly when the elections are only a couple of months away they are showing unlimited love for the cryptocurrency. Their intention is very clear. They just need cryptocurrency for their funding and nothing else.


Not all Democrats hate bitcoin or cryptocurrency and the Crypto4Harris campaign was created by those members, and what's more interesting, appears to have no involvement from Harris. Harris is the candidate but the campaign didn't get her endorsement, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The most important person refuses to participate in campaign, so I wonder how voting for her will benefit us.

Also, through this, we realized that the democratic party was just taking advantage of us, they didn't really want to change their anti-bitcoin stance. If they really changed and cared about crypto they should have done it a long time ago like the Republican Party did and needed Harris's participation.
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