Topic: 2024 U.S. Presidential Election Bets! - page 17. (Read 15349 times)

You are seriously delusional just like so many other far right supporters if you think that he gives two shits about cryptocurrencies. Many posters have already stated that he broke many promises before which is why I have no idea how you people are so confident about this particular promise.

Come up with better reasons if y'all actually wish to support him instead of this nonsense.

That's just a rumor, but what if Harris wins and continues to pursue Biden's policies and continues to pick Gary? And she will continue to let Gary oppress us and make the crypto industry more difficult.

We can't guarantee that if Trump wins, he'll keep his promise, but at least Gary won't be SEC chairman after 2025 because he's Biden's pick. At least we have a new SEC chairman under Trump, not Gary and that's a win for crypto.

Not to mention, what if Trump keeps his promise and comes up with a crypto-friendly policy? If you have no evidence or guarantee that Trump will definitely break his promise, why not think about the scenario where he will keep his promise? Anything is possible.

Trump seems to be surging ahead. I was looking at the RCP no-tossup map, and now he is considerably ahead of Kamala in terms of electoral votes (302 vs 236). And the most important thing is that he is ahead in almost all of the swing states. The only swing state where Kamala is ahead is Wisconsin. And even there, the race seems to be tightening. And adding insult to injury for Kamala, Trump is closing in on several blue states such as Minnesota and Virginia. If opinion polls are saying like this, then in the end it is going to be a landslide by GOP.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

If I had to vote in the USA, I would not decide my vote simply because of the policy they seem likely to implement regarding cryptocurrencies. It also looks like if Kamala wins she would appoint Mark Cuban as head of the SEC, which would be good for us too I think.

Yep, believing him on this makes no sense.

Even pro-trump podcaster started laughing to his face when trump said that he is basically truthful person.



Even if he wanted to be pro-crypto, i would bet money that he doesn't know what things would be beneficial for it. He would like death penalties for drug trafficers/smugglers and dealers... he pretends he is tough on crime, yet he now wants to set free Ross Ulbricht. Man who founded silk road and Armour. Both being famous for enabling illegal drug and gun trading.

He didn't do it last time, because he didn't know he had voters in libertarians. And now he just says he does.

My view is opposite. Should Trump be elected he would fleece us of all our crypto as it his nature to betray people who believe in his promises. He may be on the ball when gives promisses at public but  in the reality most of them remain ether not enacted and broken  or compromised ^{(crypto is his previous  Mexico's wall, where it is?)}. I don't trust his crypto-promise and besides of this crypto is nothing compared with the chasm between the haves and the have-nots  which would wait America should he be elected.

War is costly and USA should be using the money on more productive measures such as those in bad health who die from lack of basic health care.   Thats a standing point, easily true but Im not sure its an easy solution as Ukraine and other places in the world represent instability which certainly will affect USA in some way.   

If its true USA is a finance centre for the world its also true the prospects are altered by failure around the world.   Theres alot also of business selling those products used in war with employees part of the USA economy, its no simple matter really.    The main campaign by either party in this election is to sell a simple measure of failure by the other side, they rarely go into the details because details are messy and constantly changing.

Harris as part of Biden's term will fail to be elected if Biden's action are seen as worse then Trump's 4 years even if neither leader is the real reason for the economic figures etc.  Its likely they carry that label anyway, Harris speaks as if new to stage and the Trump campaign wants to make sure people dont forget or forgive any past mistake.

  The only difference I can see between them is Harris is in power today and liable for the failures true right now and Trump can shrug it off as more in the past.  Whether people buy that stance I dont know.

The truth is that bitcoin's existence is not dependent on any country and it would still exist even if the US banned it but that would definitely slow down its growth for years.

Don't forget that the United States is the world's financial center accounting for almost 50% of the financial market capitalization and Bitcoin is also a part of this market. As you can see in just a few short months, ETFs have accumulated nearly 1 million bitcoins and are about to surpass the number of satoshis held. Also, for bitcoin to grow, we need money to flow into the market, and the flow of money into the market is entirely dependent on US monetary policy...Overall, they play an important role and can have a significant impact on the development of bitcoin. It is no coincidence that the entire world economy depends on them, let alone a small asset like bitcoin that can escape them. So don't underestimate their role in the development of bitcoin and the cryptocurrency industry.


The election may not have a significant impact on bitcoin but their policies will have a significant impact on the future of bitcoin.

While I do agree that polls are never good, and they are just calling people up, which could be a wrong way for learning about the situation, I also doubt betting is true neither. One reason, because this is a p2p one, meaning if I am a moron that has 50 million to throw, I can make any of them look like they are winning, makes no sense to go with that.

Odd providers are fine though, because in that case it is not p2p, it is you against some sports bookie basically, and they will not want to lose, and they will arrange it better. So no pools, no p2p markets, look at places like stake and similar other websites, they will show you which one is leading, because they are betting their balance to it, and they need the favourite to win, so they will not pay up something high. These days they are very close or even tied at some days and this definitely shows how great we are going with this, we shouldn't really be bothered by it and look for something further in the end as well.

Definitely, our world will continue to move regardless of who is going to win the US election. But I do have to point out that since US is a superpower, who knows, maybe a Bitcoin or crypto President (assuming Trump wins and he did promise to be a pro-crypto), might iron out Bitcoin's image.

As opposed to what Biden did when he was the President, and most likely Kamala Harris will also just continue what his President did, going to be anti-crypto or not putting it in their agenda. So it's about who is the lesser evil as far as crypto market goes.

The reality is that Bitcoin will continue to generate more blocks every roughly 10 minutes, independent of who wins t the election of the us, or even if there is a massive civil war, or mostly anything really.

Bitcoin is extremely resilient and every day that passes makes it even more so.

It has been a long time since it was a fragile new thing. It os now independent of any country

Nope. I'm not mixing anything at all.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/10/06/watch-kamala-harris-melts-down-after-teleprompter-malfunctions-at-rally/


Sure, my friend, I found it. You can find the link to this video here:

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/10/06/watch-kamala-harris-melts-down-after-teleprompter-malfunctions-at-rally/

There is an article about the funny incident I described and it has a video attached from Twitter from Trump War Room and also from Greg Price.
And this video looks very funny
She is like a student taking an exam who doesn't know what to say.

This should be a cause for the gamblers on the election speculate and inquire who is making the mistake? Is this the pollsters or the oddsmakers of the sportsbooks and the participants of the prediction markets? The oddsmakers presently have Trump on 1.83 and Kamala on 1.99. Polymarket participants presently have Trump on 53.6% and Kamala on 45.8%. The money speaking through the sportsbooks and Polymarket is very much not telling us a similar storyline as the pollsters heheheheh. However, if the money speaking through the sportsbooks and the prediction markets are wrong, this might certainly be a good bet for Kamala if you will bet her right now heheheh.

Well, I am familiar with a few pro-bitcoin Republicans such as Ted Cruz or Cynthia Lummis but I agree that the fact that Trump has approached bitcoin in this election campaign, which he has done out of purely electoral interest, should not make people decide to vote for him but rather take into account other reasons like the ones you mention to see whether it is worth voting for him or Kamala.

Not all the politics within the United States has to do with cryptocurrency and whether the sitting president is more or less pro-Bitcoin than their predecessor. I don't think it would be a good strategy to choose someone who has obvious authoritarian traits and has tried to overturn a fair election just because he says he likes Bitcoin and cryptocurrency now.
In reality, Donald Trump does not anything about Bitcoin and what values holders stand for, to begin with.
He has been getting closer to the Bitcoin community and the crypto commubity as a whole because he sees some political advantage in it, in order to defeat Kamala Harris, the latter's belongs to a political faction which has been aggressive against Bitcoin mining and decentralization, but deed within the Republican party does not stand for Bitcoin either.

Howard Stern recently did an interview with Harris and I found a sound bite that was initially posted on Reddit. I captured it here if you want to listen to it yourself.

Essentially Stern gives a pass to Kalama to answer a direct attack on Trump by saying he would have never imagine a republican wanting to disassemble NATO.
Which is a false statement to begin with.

But of course it would not be in Kamala's interest to debunk this lie as it's a lie against her opponent in the presidential race. So she goes on about how good NATO is... I mean, let here believe whatever she wants about NATO. The facts speak for themselves and in the age of information people can form their own opinions. But even besides that, it's so weird that Democrats are complaining that the republican playbook changed. So to them, it's bad that Trump adopted a few popular opinions when talking about NATO?

I guess Kamala is really worried she has to respond to queries that are out of the ordinary for the US two party system and their systemic approach to everything.
Trump is right to criticize NATO's interventionist policies and this has been an issue recognized worldwide actually. It's a very pragmatic view. And moreover, the American people don't have it in their interest to institute gerime changes in every corner of the world. If no intervention or at best peace deals can be done, it's much better than spending billions for foreign wars.

Trump could really crush this Rhetoric Kamala has like he crushed Hillary in 2016 as a warmonger. I wish he would because it'd be so satisfying seeing Kamala take back this rhetoric that she made up on her own without asking the people's opinion.

I don't believe either one of them.  They say things all the time to gain the market of that stance.  In this case crypto, they want the votes of everyone who is pro crypto, knowing there isn't a strong hatred for it it's smart and won't lose him votes.  For me I will believe it when I see it.  Politicians are slimy and go back on theor word all the time.  Wouldn't be surprised if he outlawed it and just brush it off since he already got the votes.

With Donald Trump's recent engagements in cryptocurrency, the crypto community are fully in support of the Republican Party candidate. Kamala Harris of the Democratic Party is expected to give Trump a run for his money but it's my wish that Trump succeeds at the end of the poll. Nov. 5th like you rightly said will be an important day for not just people of the US but everyone that's involved in crypto because the result of that very election will have a big effect on crypto market. 

Could you please link to the video of such speech? I am interested in watching it.
As for her political skills when comes to speeches and debates, it seems obvious to me she is the kind of person who needs to have some previous preparation before facing the press and questions from a debate moderator, like during the debate she had facing Donald Trump some weeks ago. without that preparation, she is basically a little bit lost in her own thoughts and may not even know what to say to appeal to the public she has in the front of her.

Regardless of the social and cognitive status of both of them, the United States are going to choose again between the lesser of two evils on 5th November. It is not how American democracy is supposed to work, but it is the way the establishment and big corporations have chosen for the people, the latter has clearly lost control over the selection of nominees 

Domestic polls - I think they can be more or less trusted, but bets on Polymarket are not limited to a certain geographical location, it is a decentralised platform, so the share of Americans who bet there is definitely not great, it is more like bets and expectations of people from the world of cryptocurrencies, which in the end will not be able to influence the election in any way