The next major event in the race is going to be the Vice presidential debate which takes place on October 1st. It will certainly be an interesting watch and funnily enough as age has come to play a role in this election maybe Vance will try to use this to his advantage. Not to say that Walz is not witty or anything but it'll be an interesting thing to see what actual arguments are brought up.
Honestly Trump was kinda unimpressive and I am sure republicans are expecting Vance to do much better so as they don't completely fumble their chances. On the other hand I am considering, how much worse could their performance be? Already after Trump lost the debate it's clear the polls didn't show a huge didn't on his percentages, but rather a small one.
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Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians. And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.
There is no such thing as an honest politician these days to be frank. I want Harris to win over Trump, but I do not believe for a second that she is an honest politician at all. She is simply a better choice when compared to Biden and Trump.However, all of these options suck. Even Obama seems like a proper option when compared to these three in my opinion.
Yeah, it does feel like there is no real options.
At the end of the day it is just an illusion and the people who actually own the country gets to do whatever they want.
It has been like this for a while
Well you have the option between:
- a candidate who is a convicted felon after cheating in the only election he won and is facing dozens of more felony charges, including defrauding the country, and has a history of personally profiting from the precedency
and
- Kamala Harris
This is not an illusion or a difficult decision, which is why so many Republicans and former Trump cabinet members are now campaigning for Kamala.
Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians. And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.
There is no such thing as an honest politician these days to be frank. I want Harris to win over Trump, but I do not believe for a second that she is an honest politician at all. She is simply a better choice when compared to Biden and Trump.However, all of these options suck. Even Obama seems like a proper option when compared to these three in my opinion.
Yeah, it does feel like there is no real options.
At the end of the day it is just an illusion and the people who actually own the country gets to do whatever they want.
It has been like this for a while
I am noticing an interesting pattern here. The so called battleground states Trump has inched ever so slightly closer to receiving the majority of votes in polls, except Michigan. But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. That's quite interesting because from what I've noticed the policies trump promotes haven't changed at all...
There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.
There are some fundamental reasons for that, and not really that complicated ones. Arizona was a republican place for example, but a lot of democrats moved in there, so that made it very swing state, and Georgia was a swing state but a democrat politician took over and did amazing for just a while, and that made democrats there be more willing to vote, they weren't actually heavy republican, they just didn't go out to vote and that's why democrats lost, but recently they learned if they all go out to vote, they could win it, and the knowledge of that makes it close.There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.
North Carolina should be republican, trump should win that one, I do not think it's that close. So there are stories of each state, you go check their history and you will see that there are like maybe 3 states all together that flips all the time, rest have a steady way it goes. Usually even if a state flips, then it could be because other party steadily grew over time and that's why it happened.
Even Texas is purple these days, while we all know Trump will of course win Texas, the gap is getting closer, so in a few elections, like maybe in 10-15 years, we may see a democrat Texas all thanks to urban areas as well, which will be a first and definitely shocking to everyone.
Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians. And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.
There is no such thing as an honest politician these days to be frank. I want Harris to win over Trump, but I do not believe for a second that she is an honest politician at all. She is simply a better choice when compared to Biden and Trump.However, all of these options suck. Even Obama seems like a proper option when compared to these three in my opinion.
You're implying that they are all equally dishonest.
This is probably the number one argument used to by people that try to rationalize supporting Trump to themselves.
Trump lies about anything and everything, pretty much every single time he speaks.
Election fraud, immigrants eating cats and dogs, the size of his inauguration crowd, what 3 star generals said to him while he was president, what the judge said in his criminal trial, laws he claims he signed but didnt, the Trump moscow project, his taxes, which states are in the path of a hurricane, the porn star he had an affair with, all the classified dox the FBI found in his beach club when he wasn't president, how tall he is...when the guy tells the truth it's just a coincidence.
So when you say "all politicians are liars", you're saying what so many of Trump supporters say everyday, like it doesn't matter how many times Trump lies, or what kinds of things he's lying about, as long as every other politician has told 1 or more lies, then that means they are all liars and that cancels out all of Trumps lies.
Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians. And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.
There is no such thing as an honest politician these days to be frank. I want Harris to win over Trump, but I do not believe for a second that she is an honest politician at all. She is simply a better choice when compared to Biden and Trump.However, all of these options suck. Even Obama seems like a proper option when compared to these three in my opinion.
Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed. The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics. More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things. They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.
It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?
Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians. And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.
Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed. The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics. More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things. They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.
It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?
And as for politicians lying, not all politicians are liars - and no other politition running for president has ever lied as often or had their lies do more damage than Trump. And it's not even close.
Do you have any examples of politicians who aren't liars? This belief is getting weaker and weaker each new cycle of political elections worldwide. Masks are falling apart and human beings in power positions are finally showing their true colors. Internet plays a big role on this matter, as information reaches everywhere in real time, being harder for centralized channels to monopolize the narratives, like they used to do in past decades.People are tired of empty promises which never become reality. And even more tired of politicians cleaning themselves on the dirtiness of their rivals. The narrative of the lesser evil is outdated. Liars are liars in every cases, despite it being a little or big lie.
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There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.
There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.
Ironically, I think there has not been any change in their campaign efforts but rather there have been some unfortunate events happening at the same time which are driving swing voters to side with the Republican Party, instead of going for Kamala Harris.
The biggest of the event is how one of the most important figures in local government (within the Democrat party even), the major of New York City is being Federally indicted on very serious crimes and he has also declined to resign, after becoming the first elected major of the city to shoulder federal indictments. That has certainly turned voters away from Democrats, who now view not only the major, but also the party under a completely different kind of light.
I have no doubt Fox and Newsmax will do much emphasis on the alledged corruption of the major to favour Trump in this incoming November election.
It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?
That is definitely what most people think, there are few who do not and few who are just hooligans, but normally most people think like that. Any human with just a bit of brain would know that when we are talking about who is better, we are not talking about any of them being good at all, it's clear that both sides are liars and only interested in power, being the leader of free world is something USA likes to say, I have no idea what freedom they have over anyone else but I guess that's what they like.So whoever gets picked, will not do what they promised to do, neither are good people, neither will make the country do the right thing, and both of them will cause a lot of pain for the citizens with bad moves, it's just that simple.
But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona.
Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona are so called swinging states which means the preference of local electorate changes more than often. Thus, even the coming October will give no answer for whom they vote, only November, 5th wil clear the air. Meantime Trump's chances to win are steadily declining in the rest of states.
And I am sure Democrats don't want to repeat their 2016 situation this year and are also campaigning like crazy at the moment, same for republicans too.
What I can't help but wonder though is why people on so many of these swing states are still gravitating towards Trump. Many of the so called swing states also happen to be some of the poorest states. And yet we hear from them very rarely in the media. Who's gonna give these people a voice? It's not unlikely that they were worse off in the end under a democrat administration in spite of all the promises... But on the other hand Trump's promises aren't as clear cut on the economic issues either, so maybe many of these people disregard economics over other issues too?
But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona.
Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona are so called swinging states which means the preference of local electorate changes more than often. Thus, even the coming October will give no answer for whom they vote (notwithstanding republicans' efforts), only November, 5th wil clear the air. Meantime Trump's chances to win are steadily declining in the rest of states.
I am noticing an interesting pattern here. The so called battleground states Trump has inched ever so slightly closer to receiving the majority of votes in polls, except Michigan. But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. That's quite interesting because from what I've noticed the policies trump promotes haven't changed at all...
There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.
There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.
Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed. The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics. More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things. They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.
It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?
Fundamentally, inflation and printing money are popular things to complain about, but they are a vital part of any healthy economy. Without it there would be very little growth - something that China is actually dealing with right now. I
And as for politicians lying, not all politicians are liars - and no other politition running for president has ever lied as often or had their lies do more damage than Trump. And it's not even close.
If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point.
The important part is that every poll and odds looks like Kamala will win, and Trump is not looking favourites anywhere, which is the most important part. I think it doesn't look like we are going to end up with anything good, and we are going to end up with something that will not be that easy to handle at all.I believe that we are going to see this growing much better, and it's going to be not that easy to fix for him, he is just trailing behind. I do not think that it will be a big difference, the EC results will be very close, sure Kamala will win the popular vote by a large margin, like at least 5 million, but EC results will be very close, Kamala will be barely over 270 when she wins, and only if she wins, maybe Trump could still shock the world and win.
Selling watches and trump coins. Cut off by Fox News when ranting about furniture and not even trying to hide his racism and lies against immigrants.
And remember when he said he was tough on Russia? Now he is openly going pro-russia again and saying that ukraina should give up. People tend to notice this stuff, and when other candinate is speaking clearly and making sense, while trump struggles to speak when he should focus on anything else then himself. Also majority of the analysts and economists seem to agree that his plan is destructive and would increase inflation.
Odds are probably favoring Kamala even more while the elections are getting closer. So if someone wants to bet on Kamala, this is the time to do it, and for Trump, you are probably better of placing your bets later on as odds are rising. Even though you are probably losing your money.
And these surveys in the past for someone became decisive to make a big bet, because the player thought that now he would almost certainly win, but it turned out to be something similar to the fact that he was set up) Nevertheless, everyone should be prepared that sometimes everything in a short amount of time can change completely the opposite. Therefore, there are never easy predictions. Only when this happens, then the player says that it was easy, but in fact he could have been one step away from losing.
If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point. I believe that we are going to see this growing much better, and it's going to be not that easy to fix for him, he is just trailing behind. I do not think that it will be a big difference, the EC results will be very close, sure Kamala will win the popular vote by a large margin, like at least 5 million, but EC results will be very close, Kamala will be barely over 270 when she wins, and only if she wins, maybe Trump could still shock the world and win.
Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed. The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics. More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things. They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.
It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?
My bet on stake for Trump has changed the odds and it seems that Kamala Harris is getting close or about to lead the polls. I can still cancel my bet but it will be lessened from the original amount that I bet for but I'll look at it if it's wiser when we get close to November. With that, I'll still be able to save my money but we've got one more month and few days left before the actual election happens and I hope that I can still pull it off when I decided to cancel it.
Be careful when you talk about the opinion polls. Remember the 2016 and 2020 elections? Trump performed much better than what the opinion polls predicted (especially in the rust belt). A few days before the polling, Public Policy Polling (PPP) published an opinion poll which showed Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by a massive 12 points in Wisconsin (Trump won the state). Same happened in 2020 as well. Poll aggregators showed Biden leading Trump by anywhere from 7 points to 10 points in Wisconsin. Biden won the state, but by a wafer thin margin of 0.6%.
And these surveys in the past for someone became decisive to make a big bet, because the player thought that now he would almost certainly win, but it turned out to be something similar to the fact that he was set up) Nevertheless, everyone should be prepared that sometimes everything in a short amount of time can change completely the opposite. Therefore, there are never easy predictions. Only when this happens, then the player says that it was easy, but in fact he could have been one step away from losing.
If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point.
Betting on site like Stake is international while opinion polls are national, this is the difference (as the most of those who are bet om Trump will not cast their voices at the coming election.). For instance Chinese people are betting more than often on Trump (know this from my contractor) and their betting may twist any odds. Kamala is steadily building her momentum staircasing her popularity of different walks of life.
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