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Trump gave Israel the Golan heights and Jerusalem.

Netanyahu and Trump have been friends for decades.  (Netanyahu was friends with Trumps father, he's also Jared Kushners godfather, also, they both need to remain in power to avoid being prosecuted for corruption - that's gotta be some sort of special bond)  Although there's a fair counterpoint that Netanyahu and Biden have also been friends for decades. 

Netanyahu has long supported Republicans and is now propped up by the most right wing government Israel has ever had.

When Obama was president, Republicans invited Netanyahu to address a joint session of congress without involving Obama at all (same as "fuck you Obama").  The topic?  To criticize Obama Iran Nuclear deal.  

Last year (or was it this year?), Republicans invited Netanyahu to address a joint session of congress without involving Biden.  During the speech, Netanyahu railed against for pushing for a cease fire before Israel could achieve 'total and absolute victory'.

After a meeting between Harris and Netanyahu (maybe a month or two ago?) Harris gave a statement saying she pushed him to "get the deal done", he flipped out and they accused her of lying about the tone of the meeting and claimed her statement emboldened Hamas.


Netanyahu want's Trump to win.  I can't believe you would think it's even debatable.  Same goes for Putin.

Harris has pledged to strongly support Israel also and didn't even flinch when people were protesting genocide. So I'm sure that strategically they're the same for Israel.

Wait are you saying that you don't think Netanyahu would strongly prefer Trump over Harris (or any other Democrat for that matter)?  Same question for Putin...

Democrats and their cronies in the media have stopped making sense completely...

On the one hand, we have Biden saying Israel is holding back on a ceasefire to help Trump.
What a load of absolute bullshit from him to say. If you want Israel to accept a ceasefire stop arming it and sending over billions and billions of dollars. When the whole world already calls you a genocidal lunatic for that, are you seriously ready to blame the perpetrator of a genocide you've been funding over not helping in your partner's re-election campaign?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/10/04/president-biden-suggests-israel-may-be-trying-to-influence/

And then you have articles like the one below, saying Putin and Netanyahu have common goals in trying to get Trump elected. Oh, ok... So every bad guy in the international arena as per the American left is now Trump's friend. As if Trump doesn't have so many issues to deal with domestically, he would need to make friends with Putin and Netanyahu to get elected. wtf even at this point
https://theintercept.com/2024/10/03/netanyahu-putin-israel-russia-trump-election/

Where do you get this “many” stuff, from the Neanderthal cave you live in?

Maybe there are some orangutans in the USA that would not vote for a woman just because she is a woman, but that “many” you say you can already provide evidence, which you are not going to do, so that we believe that you have not pulled it out of your ass.

Skin color? What skin color? Kamala is as much black as Donald is orange!

As for the sexual orientation, what are you even talking about she's straight!


What stops Democrats from voting for Trump and Republicans from voting with Kamala?
If you really think every single Democrat and Republican is voting with their party choice you're deeply mistaken, there are enough that don't like their candidates, especially in the republican party, and will vote for Kamala just to get rid of Trump. Same for the democrats who think a loss here would make the party change its course and that a defeat now is better for the future.

You are right, our society is becoming more civilized, but the reality is that it is not as perfect as you think. Discrimination based on skin color, ethnicity and gender still exists in our daily lives, but people just do not admit it openly.

You have to remember that Kamala wasn't the Democrats' first choice, she was the backup choice when their top candidate couldn't continue running due to age. She would never have been the Democratic choice if Biden didn't have problems. So it can be said that she will face many challenges to become the first female president of the United States.


Harris is also getting a lot of support but not because she is really good but because the Democrats cannot vote for Trump and supporting Harris is the only thing they can do.

To put it bluntly, this is a competition between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and this competition has been going on for centuries. Harris has the support she has today because the Democratic Party has a great strategy. As for the personal comparison between Trump and Harris, I really don't rate her highly.

In today era I think the difference in skin color and also the bad assumptions about women as leader in country will not really be able to apply as before, everything has developed over time and the increasingly advanced era will only show performance and reputation.
In reality Kamala has quite lot of support and she is female US presidential candidate who has really started to show her seriousness in seeking more hearts of the US people to be willing to support her, even though Trump is candidate who is difficult to beat but Kamala also cannot be underestimated regarding how she moves to seek more support.
We all know that Trump is far superior with experience and so many loyal supporters behind him and the fight to get the most votes in the upcoming election, time is getting closer and Kamala and Trump both show their strength to be the most superior candidate but I think Trump will have much better chance of winning the 2024 election.

This is a race and it is about who will beat or outsmart whom. The one who will offer better promises, make a good impression and other things. We must not forget that each candidate has professionals who are fighting for every voter. Today's political strategists know their business well, they study huge databases and tell good news and promises to those layers of the population that are the most numerous, and then in the second place they begin to work with those who are the least numerous, trying not to offend others. In general, this is a big game.

Skin tone? Obama : Hello! Sexual orientation? She is straight and is married to a dude and has kids which is why I don't see any problem here.

You really are underestimating the power of women in the modern world today.

This desire for change is the very reason why voters made Trump the president before. You really need to think before typing so much nonsense.

Kamala faces a few obstacles to overcome. Her skin tone and sexual orientation could be a vulnerability. A minority or a woman may never be the candidate that some voters wish to support. A few people adore change, while others cherish the status quo. Had the US elections been decided by the desire for change, Hilary Clinton would have defeated Donald Trump. She still has a lot of work to do to persuade American voters that she is worthy of the presidency. Trump is a more seasoned politician who is skilled at playing on emotions to win over voters, so Kamala will need to outwit him. 

Of course, it will reflect to her as she is the VP and would for sure continues the policy of Biden administration as they are in the same party. But what separates her from Biden is that she is obviously younger and so she has the advantage moving forward and she has shown that he is not at fear with the rhetoric of Trump, on the contrary others says that she win on their debate and Trump acknowledge that and wanted to have a second debate.

Although the odds slightly favors Trump.

The VP debate though is much more of like respect, and it is very close and reports are in and said that there are no clear winner between Walz and Vance.

On the flip side to that, many people would never vote for a woman.

It's kinda like a two sided sword, on one side you have the possibility of something new, something that has never happened before, and on the other you have all the reasons why that has not happened before...

So, we'll have to wait and see what happens. It's all speculation really until we actually get the voting results.

That's the thing, Kamala Harris is held to the same standard as Biden. She's the top person in the whole of America to take responsibility for the administration she is the vice president of.

So whatever the Biden administration did wrong, not only does she have to take accountability for, but she also has to defend it if she wants a term as president. So now Kamala has in fact vowed to continue the same policies, if Trump wants to attack the Harris campaign based on Biden admin policies it would be very easy.

Biden? This is exactly the big problem that Trump and his team have been facing ever since candidacy switched from Biden to Harris. You keep talking about Biden, but the world is more focused on what Harris brings to the table now.

This is what gives her the edge. Both Biden and Trump were moronic presidents who showed the world how not to execute the presidency role. Harris could be the same as them or different if she become the new president.

Vance and Walz was much closer than Trump vs Kamala. Kamala destroyed Trump without a doubt, but Walz and Vance were professionals and both played as defensively as possible being gentleman's and tried just not to lose. When you do not go on the offensive, you do not get your words shoved back to your face, and you do fine, you do not win, but you do not lose, and both did that.

One point extra goes to Vance for me though, while I dislike the dude, he did alright and I would put him one point ahead of Walz, because at one point Vance pointed out the Haitan story, and he was fact checked, while they should be fact checked, the deal was there were no fact checks by the mods, and if you agreed to it and then do it, then it's wrong. And he did responded with legality of "path to citizenship" which is literally just applying, you could be rejected, but until you are rejected, you are on the path, and all you do is just apply, which he cleared up. Good move, and puts him above Walz for one point if you ask me.

Trump is not lunatic enough to do that. And actually it is one of the policies from Kamala and her team to bring as many illegals as possible to the United States and make them citizens in the long term. In the short term, there is a real possibility of these illegals being used for voter fraud operations masterminded by the Dems. One thing that you should remember is that most of the illegals are being herded into crucial swing states, such as Arizona, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Michigan.

Trump did look like a bitch sorta on the debate he had with Harris, but if I were a voter I would still vote Trump over Harris. In the end they are all liars, all make broken promises, and all are just puppets. Difference with Trump is the entertainment factor. If he is in office, the Dems will not stop looking for ways to impeach him, criticize everything he does or doesn't do, and Twitter(X) will always have headlines for him to make silly comments on.

@TwitchySeal. This is a similar occurrence to what is presently happening between Trump and Kamala. However on 2016, Trump tactics was something very new that shocked Hillary and her team. This tactic is not anymore new and it appears Kamala's team is not very much forced to react that would make them appear very comedic. It is Trump that has appeared comedic on the debate against Kamala.

Are illegal aliens not allowed to vote? I reckon Trump can make one more promise to increase his ratings. He can promise to give all those illegal aliens that have entered America's borders from 2020 to 2024 their citizenship if he is the winner on November hehehehe.

Polls just portray a range of how many voters will vote for each candidate.

Here's the average of all polls for the 6 months leading up to the 2016 election:


Here are the results: Trump: 46.1%   Clinton: 48.2%