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The way it was described to me was a Harris win so long as she does not wear out her new comer advantage, even though she has been VP for these past years to be a serious contender is new I guess. Like anyone in politics she has her enemies and just generally anyone famous will have bad things written about them sooner or later, can she last as the 'new girl' till November.

However I think its more about Trump and his near death experience. That is a definite advantage and swings votes towards him as literally a leader under fire who needs support, some especially on the right will respond to that and vote for him no doubt. So can that advantage last till November or will any post assassin gains be zero by then.

At least in the middle ground votes, some will decay to neutral or swap sides thats why they are the swing voters after all.
If theres an hour glass on either on either, its probably mostly Trump. I do think his odds now as are peaked & favorable as they can be, he must win that debate to have a chance; if they were to live fact check everything he says and on live TV then he is cooked Tongue

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I’m seeing Trump having underdog odds on some sites now. That is absolutely crazy to me. I haven’t heard a single person in actual real life (not the media) say anything positive about Kamala. Seems like they’re just positioning themselves to be able to pass off the lie of another stolen election. November is going to be a wild month.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 15, 2024, 12:15:25 AM

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I mean, it is obvious Trump does not have any problem to connect and attract people to his movement (MAGA), otherwise he would not be a successful politicians as he is. Though, I am starting to see a clear conflict of interest when comes to Trump and Twitter/X.
He knows he could easily reach millions of people easier if he moved back to Twitter/X and started to rant there about whatever he wants, but he also have interest on his own social media "truth social" not going down the drain completely and shut down. Because people seem to forget the only reason there is a minimum of traffick on Truth social is because the presence of Trump there, instead of Twitter.
Sooner of latter Trump will have to decided what matters the most for him: either to keep his own bootleg social media on float or reach thousands of additional people who are only on touch with Twitter/X. As the election is probably going to be a close one, I would expect Trump ditching TS and embracing Musk's "Twitter" as a bonus to increase his chances of winning.

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Trump being able to reach out to this many people isn't really that complicated, he will of course be able to love that up and Twitter allows him to reach a lot of people. However, I feel like we are going to not see this change any points for anyone. You need to have a good ground up work, which means that we are going to have some trouble but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this to change this as much as possible, it's going to be probably nothing at all for the votes.

The real way of making some changes will be just realizing that you are going to end up being there, and that's the most important one and should be very important to realize that it's going to be something that personalized, this should be very important to come face to face with people to ask for votes, that's how you get people out. Also, media doesn't share twitter chats, but if you end up going live, they will share all of your speech and that's a lot more important as well.

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Quote from: alani123 on August 14, 2024, 05:52:45 PM

The United Auto Workers union, one of the biggest unions in the united states, came out endorsing Kamala Harris with a very scathing video against trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkoaZUvvPI

It's interesting that while UAW had also endorsed Hillary in 2016, the democratic party has since taken a turn to be even more right wing. There's a lot of talk about class issues from the UAW but the Biden administration put through many policies that made the rich richer and the poor poorer. Surely things for America's poor may have been a little worse under Trump but this lesser of two evils logic isn't getting anyone anywhere in the long run.

UAW and other unions are good at saying who's actually worse for America's workers but who's going to say the Democrat's faults out loud also?

Unions supporting Kamala doesn't really surprise me. And these people doesn't have much sway on swing states anyway, as their votes are concentrated in deep blue states such as Michigan, Illinios and California. They have close to 1 million active and retired members, and most of them are registered Democrat voters anyway. BTW, after the initial bump for Kamala, opinion polls are once again showing Donald Trump in the lead. The poll from FOX News put him one point ahead (50% vs 49%), while the Cook Political Report shows Trump ahead in Nevada and Florida.

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The United Auto Workers union, one of the biggest unions in the united states, came out endorsing Kamala Harris with a very scathing video against trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkoaZUvvPI

It's interesting that while UAW had also endorsed Hillary in 2016, the democratic party has since taken a turn to be even more right wing. There's a lot of talk about class issues from the UAW but the Biden administration put through many policies that made the rich richer and the poor poorer. Surely things for America's poor may have been a little worse under Trump but this lesser of two evils logic isn't getting anyone anywhere in the long run.

UAW and other unions are good at saying who's actually worse for America's workers but who's going to say the Democrat's faults out loud also?

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Quote from: Unsoldier on August 13, 2024, 08:45:42 AM

Today Donald Trump gave an interview to Ilon Musk on platform X. Despite the community's expectations, the politician and businessman never once mentioned cryptocurrencies. Prediction platform Polymarket even opened a series of bets on the words Trump might utter. The biggest win, over $1 million, was taken by a user under the nickname bama124, in particular he guessed that Trump would not say the word "cryptocurrency" and earned $336,918. At the end of the broadcast, Musk invited Kamala Harris for a similar interview. Do you think Kamala will show up for the interview with Elon?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862

It was a good interview despite the cryptospace was not mentioned. They talked about decreasing government spending to reduce inflation, the environment, the southern border and other important concerns for America. However, the mainstream news media appears to be misinforming everyone by publishing headlines that Trump was talking stupidly and talking about conspiracy theories. This is not true because I listened to the interview. Everything appeared to be a normal interview very much similar to a podcast.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 13, 2024, 05:30:10 PM

Obviously Kamala will not take him up on his offer for an interview. Everyone would see how dumb she is.

LOL... never.. ever.. Dems are afraid of fair debates, and fair elections. Remove the postal ballot system and then enforce ID checks for voters, and you will see Dems losing even blue states such as Colorado and Virginia. Despite the influx of ~10 million illegals over the last 3-4 years, I still doubt whether Kamala will be able to win this time. Anyway, we have the debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris coming up in a few weeks (hosted by ABC News, to be moderated by Linsey Davis and David Muir).

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Quote from: dzungmobile on August 12, 2024, 04:32:13 AM

I am not fan or supporter of Kamala Harris and disagree with her on many things but my opinion does not make any impact as I am not the US. citizen. People who live in the US. can have deeper knowledge about this woman and politician, they need to check it out and inform you and community if any incorrect information is put in your campaign.

I am not US. citizen but I really hope that Trump will take the White House again, after the November Election. The big nation will be corrupted more if Kamala Harris wins the Election.

It's quite sad to see that bitcointalk is getting filled with politics, we had a lot less of these back in the day, unfortunately the Americans battling each other spilled here too.

I understand that you may care about your nations elections, and that's very fine, I care about my nations elections too, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good thing if we talked about it everywhere. Making a pseudo signature campaign, to bash the other candidate, is not nice and doesn't help anything about bitcoin neither, so it's totally irrelevant to bitcointalk forum. In any case, I hope that politics stays in politics part of the forum and doesn't spill here because it's really not a nice thing to see when people talk about this everywhere.

Actually, the main purpose of this thread is about the discussion bets on the US presidential election because in fact, the election was used by most gambling sites as one of the betting options.
But it is natural that there is lot of discussion about politics in this thread and of course all of this also ultimately becomes form of assessment of the opportunities of each candidate to be bet on.

It just that if we talk about politics and Bitcoin, we can find fairly deep connection because now politics greatly influences the movement of Bitcoin, those in power are looking for loopholes and really only care about personal gain by exploiting the crypto industry, especially Bitcoin.
Sorry if what I talked about in the last part is not in accordance with the topic of the main thread, but that what happened.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on August 13, 2024, 08:45:42 AM

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At the end of the broadcast, Musk invited Kamala Harris for a similar interview. Do you think Kamala will show up for the interview with Elon?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862

Most likely. I'm pretty sure that Kamala Harris and her team were up last night and tuned in to that interview and take note. If anything, they'd want to take the opportunity to promote their campaign using the platform that Elon Musk's X provides. Like a wise man once said, there's no such thing as a bad publicity.

Quick Question: Are there people who take part in polymarket markets here? If yes, how are you playing the November 2024 election markets.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on August 13, 2024, 08:45:42 AM

Today Donald Trump gave an interview to Ilon Musk on platform X. Despite the community's expectations, the politician and businessman never once mentioned cryptocurrencies. Prediction platform Polymarket even opened a series of bets on the words Trump might utter. The biggest win, over $1 million, was taken by a user under the nickname bama124, in particular he guessed that Trump would not say the word "cryptocurrency" and earned $336,918. At the end of the broadcast, Musk invited Kamala Harris for a similar interview. Do you think Kamala will show up for the interview with Elon?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862

That was a great interview. Trump showed he’s still sharp as a tack and him and Elon said all the right things to show they understand the problems America is facing. I was a bit surprised how dire they made the situation sound if Trump we’re to lose.

Obviously Kamala will not take him up on his offer for an interview. Everyone would see how dumb she is.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on August 13, 2024, 08:45:42 AM

Today Donald Trump gave an interview to Ilon Musk on platform X. Despite the community's expectations, the politician and businessman never once mentioned cryptocurrencies. Prediction platform Polymarket even opened a series of bets on the words Trump might utter. The biggest win, over $1 million, was taken by a user under the nickname bama124, in particular he guessed that Trump would not say the word "cryptocurrency" and earned $336,918. At the end of the broadcast, Musk invited Kamala Harris for a similar interview. Do you think Kamala will show up for the interview with Elon?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862

Kamala will absolutely not get close to Elon. Elon is terrible at interviewing people. And also terrible at talking himself. He utters bulship every second time he opens his mouth. Many people hate Elon for all his crazy efforts to delay America's public transport development. Others hate him for his waste of public money with SpaceX, Boring company and Tesla subsidies.

Elon can't keep a discussion on topic or bring up good points. It's either his medication isn't working, or he's taking stuff that are too bad. But in any case it's insufferable to hear him talk. He even said in the beginning of the space with Elon that it's a discussion and not an interview. I'm sure it's because Elon is bad at keeping notes and a pace, in spite of being a CEO. He's living proof competence isn't required to get rich under capitalism. For sure this interview didn't help Trump's campaign and Kamala now has further reason to avoid Elon.

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I can only imagine how troublesome the result would be when fanatics are going to come to put their candidates on the seat. They are going to fight for it regardless of who won the election. The election is going to trigger a lot of normal people to act abnormally. Grin

Well, that causes many people to feel like a fever or madness. The worst thing is that it causes fights between people. That's what I don't like. Although, honestly, no matter how much they have said in the media that Kamala is above Trump, it is something that I would not believe, For me, Trump has done too much for them to come and overshadow him like that. That's why I don't see this as being so relevant. I understand and respect what many people say about Kamala Harris, but for me, seeing Trump's politics and methods, they are superior and very Effective.

Trump started a fight against Joe Rogan though, and many influencers think that was a stupid move for Trump. He is already winning and gotten the support of many people but making Joe Rogan look bad in public is very unnecessary for Trump. This is really bad for Trump.

And by looking at the polls where Kamala is already catching up, it's another loss for him and this is a crucial time already in the campaign where they just have 3 months. Trump better be ready for the debate because this is where he could make points.

Those polls are most likely bogus. Don't trust them. Especially if the demrat media outlets are pushing it. The same polls also said Hillary was going to win by a landslide in 2016. Guess what happened then...

The tactics in politics are very dirty in some politicians, I assume that Trump has been in this for a long time, for me Kamala Harris could have been in politics all her life if she wanted (I don't know if that's true, I'm just speculating, I hardly know anything about her) on the other hand I see that they have launched all kinds of attacks on Trump so that he can lower his guard and has not succeeded, even having the country's own penal system against him, they have not been able to do anything to him, this means that Trump is very much above this woman, well, that's what I see from my point of view, very external to what is experienced in the USA.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on August 13, 2024, 08:45:42 AM

Today Donald Trump gave an interview to Ilon Musk on platform X. Despite the community's expectations, the politician and businessman never once mentioned cryptocurrencies. Prediction platform Polymarket even opened a series of bets on the words Trump might utter. The biggest win, over $1 million, was taken by a user under the nickname bama124, in particular he guessed that Trump would not say the word "cryptocurrency" and earned $336,918. At the end of the broadcast, Musk invited Kamala Harris for a similar interview. Do you think Kamala will show up for the interview with Elon?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862

Lucky guy and his username sounds like the former president Grin

People who had been waiting to join the livestream went mad when they were presented with the "This space is not available" page. Trump is right about Kamala or Biden can't do any live stream to answer questions. Strange indeed she had been promoting and campaigning herself to run for the presidency but nothing had she done to make a press conference.

But hey she is winning in the Betting platforms. How the hell did she even do this?

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Today Donald Trump gave an interview to Ilon Musk on platform X. Despite the community's expectations, the politician and businessman never once mentioned cryptocurrencies. Prediction platform Polymarket even opened a series of bets on the words Trump might utter. The biggest win, over $1 million, was taken by a user under the nickname bama124, in particular he guessed that Trump would not say the word "cryptocurrency" and earned $336,918. At the end of the broadcast, Musk invited Kamala Harris for a similar interview. Do you think Kamala will show up for the interview with Elon?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862

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Ideally politics would be 1% of the world but government spending share of the GDP is over 50% in quite a few countries. Politics dominates economics and there is no getting away from it all, at present at least. I imagine we peak in the politics some time because I dont think its productive especially, it has cost to it all.

The current question on who wins for me comes down to a contrast based on Harris vs Clinton. Why exactly did Clinton lose that election after declaring 'we are preparing for government' when Trump seemingly put his foot in it multiple times.

Clinton lost for reasons, so tell me what's different this time why not the same thing with Harris. A lady of colour faring better then the already established name of Clinton, tell me that's not a new phenomena of some kind. Is Harris that much more 'loved' then Clinton, there has to be alot more positivity this time for the race to be won.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on August 12, 2024, 04:32:13 AM

I am not fan or supporter of Kamala Harris and disagree with her on many things but my opinion does not make any impact as I am not the US. citizen. People who live in the US. can have deeper knowledge about this woman and politician, they need to check it out and inform you and community if any incorrect information is put in your campaign.

I am not US. citizen but I really hope that Trump will take the White House again, after the November Election. The big nation will be corrupted more if Kamala Harris wins the Election.

It's quite sad to see that bitcointalk is getting filled with politics, we had a lot less of these back in the day, unfortunately the Americans battling each other spilled here too.

I understand that you may care about your nations elections, and that's very fine, I care about my nations elections too, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good thing if we talked about it everywhere. Making a pseudo signature campaign, to bash the other candidate, is not nice and doesn't help anything about bitcoin neither, so it's totally irrelevant to bitcointalk forum. In any case, I hope that politics stays in politics part of the forum and doesn't spill here because it's really not a nice thing to see when people talk about this everywhere.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on August 11, 2024, 01:48:05 AM

I hope that anyone here, who are citizens of the USA. and intend to vote for Kamala Harris, no matter your party is, will watch this video and think more about what your vote goes to.

https://x.com/jpgechele/status/1822407149437206656

Recent weeks, after the assa**** against Trump, I watched many videos on Kamala's speeches recent years. Honestly, it looks very communist that is very strange in a nation like the USA. How locals can be brainwashed easily in such a nation, not in the North Korea, Cuba, China or Russia.

I hope you guys can save your beautiful nation against communism disease.

We cannot be quite certain what type of president she will become if she will have the victory on November, however, we can be quite certain that the crackdowns on the cryptospace will certainly increase very much similar on the crackdowns being made by uncle Gary of the SEC.

However, I also want Kamala to win to show everyone the mistake they have done instead of voting for the Trump pump hehehehehehe.

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Quote from: STT on August 11, 2024, 06:02:46 PM

When I was listening to Harris I was watching for some element of a campaign that spoke to people. A backbone to the words said not just bullet points on a prepared speech. I dont have to agree with her policies and ideas I just have to believe she does, I couldnt make out anything that moving said.

I dont especially like Trump but he does motivate his supporters. The only debate then is who can capture that middle ground. Both have reasons why not, Trump is labelled literally as a criminal and Harris is the same administration that may have failed you already so they both may struggle in swing states.

Other than trying to undermine the political strength of Donald Trump by selling wrong narratives about him on the media concerning his past dealings in the past about the Blacks in other to spoil the mind of Black Americans from voting for the former United States of America president, there's no other significant thing Kamala Harris and her campaign group have done to convince the majority of the American people to see Harris as a better option Trump. I've watched and listened to both presidential candidates address the public in different campaign grounds and media spaces and if you ask me, I'm very convinced that Trump will flawlessly defeat Harris on the polls.

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Quote from: mindrust on August 11, 2024, 10:23:07 AM

I have launched a signature campaign for Kamala.

Thanks for doing it but I did not imply to force you doing this.

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People might wanna check it out.

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I am not fan or supporter of Kamala Harris and disagree with her on many things but my opinion does not make any impact as I am not the US. citizen. People who live in the US. can have deeper knowledge about this woman and politician, they need to check it out and inform you and community if any incorrect information is put in your campaign.

I am not US. citizen but I really hope that Trump will take the White House again, after the November Election. The big nation will be corrupted more if Kamala Harris wins the Election.

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