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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 01, 2024, 09:16:10 AM

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This is a serious allegation that I'm sure you can't prove, one of the misinformation we are preaching against on the internet. How could you even say that? Don't you know it's a huge indictment to any company doing that? Not to mention that so many of the owners of the most popular social media platforms are not in support of the Democratic party, especially Elon Musk who owns X and has unwavering support for Trump.

Musk started supporting Trump quite recently. But Twitter has remained fiercely neutral in this battle, unlike Google or Facebook. Twitter has never blocked any of the Democrats from posting their tweets and unlike the case with Google they never shadow ban anyone whom they don't like. And this is exactly the reason why I like Musk. This man has restored freedom of speech in social media. When Vijaya Gadde and Parag Agrawal were in power, they were doing all they can to suppress free speech. And then the Democrats were cheering for them.

Let's face the reality my friend, Musk is now biased, except that he can't do it using his platform to the point that people will now start complaining. His reason for unbanning Trump's account when he declared his support for him is a good one to prove this. Why didn't he do that long enough, his dislike for this current administration is the driving force. For me, he just used that advantage as the X wonder to do that, it would have been different with a neutral person, so don't say the guy is neutral.

It even seems you are being biased as well, I wonder why X will blatantly ban any Democratic party member with their responsible acts? Mention any of them who is as daring and insulting as Trump. To the point of inciting people to trample on the US democracy? As for the shadow banning, you are not not sincere, shadow banning of this concern is also happening on X, maybe you should do your findings.

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Hey, I understand you, the social and political issue you mention, I think that we all want that in a certain way, fair elections and that the best person wins from the point of view of attitudes and aptitudes.

In my case, I am not on the social board,right?, therefore let's not fall into political passions and extra "sports" analysis, this is about bets, political analysis is necessary, but there is a very thin line between confusing it with personal appreciations for a bet.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 02, 2024, 06:02:36 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 06:38:46 AM

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From what I have seen and watched, democrats are against ID card or voting ID cards because it would be fairly difficult for people to get them and vote. In general, it would seem Republicans benefits when the voting population gets smaller, so it would make sense for them to make the voting population as shallow as possible so people of color, spanics and other minorities would have a toughter time having their voices heard.
It would be fairer if the government of the United States used biometry for them to authenticate the identity of their voters (only if the voters agrees on it), if fingerprints match, then it would be possible for the person to vote, otherwise gets rejected... however, there would still be people against it, because of the storage of biometric information.

Dems will not win if they use the biometry, they know people are fed up with this current administration, and Kamala being the nominee is just not going to make them win. They would have to use anything else to get the votes including those illegal immigrants. Some of them afaik are registered to vote already.

Trump is already winning. Nothing will stop him from going to the white house again. But seeing this is dividing the people, the future was already predicted before things could happen. Trump is just not seeing that the US will be a big mess if he wins. But regardless of which party wins, it's very obvious already the economy is already in recession. Just bet for Trump to take advantage of this situation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 09:37:29 PM

Since you don't have good comprehension skills, I will explain again. Last census was conducted back in 2020.

Since as always you're an illiterate imbecile with the memory of a goldfish, let me tell you again what shit you posted a day ago:

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 08:47:14 AM

Now what happens is that if any of the deep blue states, such as California or New York get millions of illegal aliens, then their number of electoral college votes will go up. And this will in turn help the Democrat nominee.

now the imbecile that has been caught again posting crap without knowing tries to spin it:

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 09:37:29 PM

It is natural for California and New York to lose population, and for Texas and Florida to gain people.

Seriously, are you mentally challenged?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 06:38:46 AM

Almost all of the urban centers within the United States are deep-blue. Even in red states such as Texas and Ohio, the major cities are all controlled by Democrats. And this is especially true with swing states such as Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania. BTW, it is true that illegal aliens don't have the right to vote. But then, Democrats recently blocked a measure that was brought in by the GOP to make identity cards mandatory for voting. And while voting, ideological preferences hardly matter for illegals. All that matter is whether they are allowed to stay or not.

Well that has something to do with culture and how people want to live, not with geography. Meaning that people who are democrats are liking living in the cities and in big buildings and working in offices, it is not that you become a person who is a democrat when you work there, if a republican ends up working there they are still republican and don't change their mind, but republicans prefer to be "backbone" of America and have their own shop, which is a great idea because we need both big companies with democrat office workers, and we need shops with republican owners, you get both of them to build a nation. So right now, we are seeing the same thing on just the map, that's why I think it is going to keep it going.

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Quote from: stompix on August 02, 2024, 09:33:40 AM

Aren't you tired of posting the same dumb shit when you have no clue what you talk about?
Hasn't the war in Ukraine been proof enough that you should really stay out of business beyond your power of comprehension?

California and New York lost one 1 seat at the last Census while Texas and Florida gained 2 and 1 seat.
How is that helping Democrats?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/04/27/heres-why-republicans-won-the-new-census-count-and-democrats-lost/

Since you don't have good comprehension skills, I will explain again. Last census was conducted back in 2020. Then, Trump was in power and the number of illegal aliens was low. It is natural for California and New York to lose population, and for Texas and Florida to gain people. Because hard-working people usually flee from Democrat-run states, which are impacted by sky high crime rate and extremely high taxes. And in most cases, they flee towards Republican run states such as Texas and Florida.

Domestic migration in the US, by state (obviously excludes your illegals):

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Just do it by the tax records, if you can pay taxes then you should be allowed to apply for a vote with the priviso of all the normal requirements. Special biometrics seems ridiculous to me when its not monetary and its already true you can be jailed for deliberate fraud.

Any fraud outside of that simple test can be taken of but its not a hotly contested rule of law to break voting regulations really. Iam aware you have to be registered as a citizen but who is really so desperate they want to lie and break the law, just a basic check of tax records over years should be enough the vast majority of the time. More red tape is the last thing required, there's already enough records on people so might as well use it.

Imo, the biggest danger you have is people dont vote.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 06:38:46 AM

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From what I have seen and watched, democrats are against ID card or voting ID cards because it would be fairly difficult for people to get them and vote. In general, it would seem Republicans benefits when the voting population gets smaller, so it would make sense for them to make the voting population as shallow as possible so people of color, spanics and other minorities would have a toughter time having their voices heard.
It would be fairer if the government of the United States used biometry for them to authenticate the identity of their voters (only if the voters agrees on it), if fingerprints match, then it would be possible for the person to vote, otherwise gets rejected... however, there would still be people against it, because of the storage of biometric information.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 01, 2024, 12:05:26 PM

Quote from: stompix on August 01, 2024, 11:25:41 AM

If she wins, she’ll continue flooding the country with her voters and that will be the end of our representative democracy.

I always find it funny how Republicans try to preach about democracy to Europeans when if it were by a true democratic vote you would have lost two of the last three elections, with both Trump and Bush losing the normal vote.So stop preaching about democracy in a country where your voting power depends on where you live, that's not democracy.

Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 08:47:14 AM

And this includes illegal aliens as well. Now what happens is that if any of the deep blue states, such as California or New York get millions of illegal aliens, then their number of electoral college votes will go up. And this will in turn help the Democrat nominee.

Aren't you tired of posting the same dumb shit when you have no clue what you talk about?
Hasn't the war in Ukraine been proof enough that you should really stay out of business beyond your power of comprehension?

California and New York lost one 1 seat at the last Census while Texas and Florida gained 2 and 1 seat.
How is that helping Democrats?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/04/27/heres-why-republicans-won-the-new-census-count-and-democrats-lost/

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Quote from: Catenaccio on August 02, 2024, 08:03:22 AM

As I know, in the USA. there are deep-red and deep-blue states that mean President nominees almost can not win at deeply supported states for a nominee of an opposite party, and the winner of President Election will be decided by swing states. At swing states, people tend to listen to nominees of both parties, think of their lives last four years and propaganda of both nominees if get elected as a next President in coming four years. These people will decide the winner in USA. President Election in November.

I see Trump takes a lead because people in the USA. are disappointed with their lives, societies and many things under Biden administration four latest years. They want change that won't be given by Kamala Harris who is a Vice President under Biden. If they want change, they have only one choice, Trump.

Although the POTUS elections depend on 8 or 9 swing states, we are ignoring a very important factor. The electoral college seats per state depends on the total population of that state. And the US census counts all those who are residing in a state for counting the population. And this includes illegal aliens as well. Now what happens is that if any of the deep blue states, such as California or New York get millions of illegal aliens, then their number of electoral college votes will go up. And this will in turn help the Democrat nominee.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 02, 2024, 06:38:46 AM

Almost all of the urban centers within the United States are deep-blue. Even in red states such as Texas and Ohio, the major cities are all controlled by Democrats. And this is especially true with swing states such as Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania. BTW, it is true that illegal aliens don't have the right to vote. But then, Democrats recently blocked a measure that was brought in by the GOP to make identity cards mandatory for voting. And while voting, ideological preferences hardly matter for illegals. All that matter is whether they are allowed to stay or not.

As I know, in the USA. there are deep-red and deep-blue states that mean President nominees almost can not win at deeply supported states for a nominee of an opposite party, and the winner of President Election will be decided by swing states. At swing states, people tend to listen to nominees of both parties, think of their lives last four years and propaganda of both nominees if get elected as a next President in coming four years. These people will decide the winner in USA. President Election in November.

I see Trump takes a lead because people in the USA. are disappointed with their lives, societies and many things under Biden administration four latest years. They want change that won't be given by Kamala Harris who is a Vice President under Biden. If they want change, they have only one choice, Trump.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 01, 2024, 05:07:48 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 01, 2024, 12:05:26 PM

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As far as I know inmigrants cannot vote, not even in federal elections, it takes one to be a citizen in order to have a voice on who the next president is going to be, you know that.
Besides, even if immigrants could vote (not the case whatsoever) most of them move to liberal cities in already liberal states, it would not have much of an impact on the system of indirect democracy. It would be necessary for immigrants to become citizens and move to very red counties in red states like Texas or move to swing states like Arizona, into specific counties.
Besides all of that, are you aware many of the people who happen to illegally cross the south border are very religious? They are either Cristian and Catholic, the majority of them would not vote Democrat because of issues like abortion or the democrat support to LGBTQ community (all of it sinful in their eyes).
It is more complex than just assuming anyone crossing the Mexican border with the United States is a vote for the democrat party, it is false.

Almost all of the urban centers within the United States are deep-blue. Even in red states such as Texas and Ohio, the major cities are all controlled by Democrats. And this is especially true with swing states such as Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania. BTW, it is true that illegal aliens don't have the right to vote. But then, Democrats recently blocked a measure that was brought in by the GOP to make identity cards mandatory for voting. And while voting, ideological preferences hardly matter for illegals. All that matter is whether they are allowed to stay or not.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 01, 2024, 12:05:26 PM

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As far as I know inmigrants cannot vote, not even in federal elections, it takes one to be a citizen in order to have a voice on who the next president is going to be, you know that.
Besides, even if immigrants could vote (not the case whatsoever) most of them move to liberal cities in already liberal states, it would not have much of an impact on the system of indirect democracy. It would be necessary for immigrants to become citizens and move to very red counties in red states like Texas or move to swing states like Arizona, into specific counties.
Besides all of that, are you aware many of the people who happen to illegally cross the south border are very religious? They are either Cristian and Catholic, the majority of them would not vote Democrat because of issues like abortion or the democrat support to LGBTQ community (all of it sinful in their eyes).
It is more complex than just assuming anyone crossing the Mexican border with the United States is a vote for the democrat party, it is false.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 01, 2024, 12:05:26 PM

This doesn’t seem real to me. Kamala Harris is very clearly not fit to be President. She’s as far left as one can be (according to her voting record) and her entire campaign seems like it’s pushing the exact opposite of what she did during her career. So is she a sellout now or did she not believe what she was doing then? If she wins, she’ll continue flooding the country with her voters and that will be the end of our representative democracy.

A big challenge for Kamala Harris is finding a running mate for her. At the moment, there is no worthy running mate, preferably someone who is not as far to the left as Kamala. Someone more aligned to the center would be ideal for Kamala to help her take the lead in the elections.

Perhaps no one is looking at Harris' campaign with such confidence.

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Quote from: stompix on August 01, 2024, 11:25:41 AM

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Also, I highly suggest both candidates start talking about increasing the size of the congress and the senate as well, if they could end up adding in like at least twice the size of right now, they could actually make some good votes out of this.

The US Congress is based on the number of states, and the number of representatives is awarded to each by population census, increasing the size of the Congress will backfire on anyone who proposes such a thing if any candidate would dare even utter this idea it will be the first to lose all states in the election.

1.67 Donald Trump
2.1Kamala Harris

Trump is going down in the betting, unsurprisingly
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-gaining-ground-trump-6-7-swing-states-bloomberg-poll-shows-2024-07-30/

Now he has nothing really to show while Harris still has a chance to grab some more voters with the VP pick, if she targets it specifically to Georgia and Pennsylvania or NC, we might see even odds.

This doesn’t seem real to me. Kamala Harris is very clearly not fit to be President. She’s as far left as one can be (according to her voting record) and her entire campaign seems like it’s pushing the exact opposite of what she did during her career. So is she a sellout now or did she not believe what she was doing then? If she wins, she’ll continue flooding the country with her voters and that will be the end of our representative democracy.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 01, 2024, 09:16:10 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on August 01, 2024, 01:56:00 AM

This is a serious allegation that I'm sure you can't prove, one of the misinformation we are preaching against on the internet. How could you even say that? Don't you know it's a huge indictment to any company doing that? Not to mention that so many of the owners of the most popular social media platforms are not in support of the Democratic party, especially Elon Musk who owns X and has unwavering support for Trump.

Musk started supporting Trump quite recently. But Twitter has remained fiercely neutral in this battle, unlike Google or Facebook. Twitter has never blocked any of the Democrats from posting their tweets and unlike the case with Google they never shadow ban anyone whom they don't like. And this is exactly the reason why I like Musk. This man has restored freedom of speech in social media. When Vijaya Gadde and Parag Agrawal were in power, they were doing all they can to suppress free speech. And then the Democrats were cheering for them.

You should double check on that. Because I have some internet friends who happen to be artists, and they have personally told me how Twitter/X still shadow an their accounts because of the content they post on there.
I think initially Elon wanted the social media to be as free as possible, but something changed and now they have re-established their policy on shadow bans back in place, I ignore the reason.
It would be similar to what Elon said about Alex Jones, when he mentioned he would not lift his ban, because how he lied about children dying in schools, there was some change of heart, obviously, because Jones is back in Twitter/X .
Though, when comes to politics, I agree, he seems to have been neutral enough with people who believes in opposite ideas he has.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on August 01, 2024, 08:48:23 AM

Also, I highly suggest both candidates start talking about increasing the size of the congress and the senate as well, if they could end up adding in like at least twice the size of right now, they could actually make some good votes out of this.

The US Congress is based on the number of states, and the number of representatives is awarded to each by population census, increasing the size of the Congress will backfire on anyone who proposes such a thing if any candidate would dare even utter this idea it will be the first to lose all states in the election.

1.67 Donald Trump
2.1Kamala Harris

Trump is going down in the betting, unsurprisingly
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-gaining-ground-trump-6-7-swing-states-bloomberg-poll-shows-2024-07-30/

Now he has nothing really to show while Harris still has a chance to grab some more voters with the VP pick, if she targets it specifically to Georgia and Pennsylvania or NC, we might see even odds.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on August 01, 2024, 01:56:00 AM

This is a serious allegation that I'm sure you can't prove, one of the misinformation we are preaching against on the internet. How could you even say that? Don't you know it's a huge indictment to any company doing that? Not to mention that so many of the owners of the most popular social media platforms are not in support of the Democratic party, especially Elon Musk who owns X and has unwavering support for Trump.

Musk started supporting Trump quite recently. But Twitter has remained fiercely neutral in this battle, unlike Google or Facebook. Twitter has never blocked any of the Democrats from posting their tweets and unlike the case with Google they never shadow ban anyone whom they don't like. And this is exactly the reason why I like Musk. This man has restored freedom of speech in social media. When Vijaya Gadde and Parag Agrawal were in power, they were doing all they can to suppress free speech. And then the Democrats were cheering for them.

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I think executive power was invented literally just for this, so presidents could use it.

Biden will be using it for Supreme Court next up, they are just waiting for Trump to say something about it, as soon as he does, the yare going to do that next.

Biden already talked about it, there will be some fairness to it, like meaning if SC ends up saying something about the president, that immunity is in question, or decisions president makes will be in question. I talked long ago how Biden could literally add in extra 2 seats to SC if he wants to, it is not impossible and doable and within the law, could be "looking" bad, but not illegal to do at all. That would put some trouble if they lose, meaning Trump could add some more, but it is a good idea.

Also, I highly suggest both candidates start talking about increasing the size of the congress and the senate as well, if they could end up adding in like at least twice the size of right now, they could actually make some good votes out of this.

Everyone agrees that there should be a bigger congress, so anyone who promises that on their campaign, that could actually make it very profitable and would definitely end up being something very nice, could earn them big amounts of votes.

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Quote from: Catenaccio on July 30, 2024, 06:26:11 AM

Politicians don't complete all promises they make but some will be done and we can not know what promises from Trump now, will be done in future or will not be completed, if he gets elected. Time, only time can tell.

Complete or not, what I know is that Trump is selling what people want to hear to them and they are falling for it pretty fast not considering that the power to do most of those things lies with the Congress and not Trump himself.

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With the clear manipulation of Democrats Party on social media, recently with Google search and past years with their cooperation with government to hide information on Hunter Biden's activities, it's good chance for Trump to take advantage of it when US. .

This is a serious allegation that I'm sure you can't prove, one of the misinformation we are preaching against on the internet. How could you even say that? Don't you know it's a huge indictment to any company doing that? Not to mention that so many of the owners of the most popular social media platforms are not in support of the Democratic party, especially Elon Musk who owns X and has unwavering support for Trump.

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