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Quote from: cabron on July 27, 2024, 10:35:50 AM

Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 08:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

The assassination attempt already elevated Trump like a modern-day hero and people even assume God gave him this 2nd life to save America. It really enhances his chances, we can already see more influencers acknowledge how he handled that situation. She showed bravery to lead the country even Mark Zuckerberg, not just Elon acknowledges Trump already.

And Trump using Bitcoin to get votes from the millions of crypto users, it cemented his path. Kamala is also trying her way to crypto but I doubt it will work for her. Kamala however got better odds than Biden so there must be votes going to her, probably the loyal liberals and the ones who hated Trump to the core.

That's true and whoever his PR is doing a good job. The Trump assassination on the other hand really boosted his chance to win this presidential election and I've seen neighbors talking about it. It may be a bad thing to say but it actually helped a lot for the Trump supporters and new ones to support him more.
I am seeing a lot of fake news on social media saying Trump is backing out because he thinks he has no chance of winning this election. He just didn't agree with the debate yet against Kamal Harris and they used that to fuel something that is not true. I am not a Trump supporter but I think we should be aware of the news that is coming out because some will use them to spread wrong things and cut the statements to make it look negative.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 25, 2024, 06:51:51 AM

Next, and only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris will take place on 10th September, and will be hosted by the ABC Network. The debate will be moderated by David Muir (anchor of ABC World News Tonight) and Linsey Davis (anchor of ABC News Live Prime). But there is some uncertainty as well. Trump supporters have cast doubt regarding the neutrality of the anchors, as well as that of the anchors. They want the debate to be hosted by Fox Network (which is unacceptable for the Democrat nominee).

There is no doubt that USA is as divided as it gets and people could see any type of moderator would be with one of the candidates. If they go wit hone channel, it would be kamala, if they go with another, it would be trump. We can't say that there is a truly natural moderator, nobody in the USA is like that, not anymore at least. So either Trump has to agree to a Kamala supporter moderator or Kamala has to agree to one that is a Trump supporter, there is no other way around it.

And considering Kamala has never been the president, and just recently got appointed, then I would say that it is likely that it's only fair to do it this way, or Trump could just pull out (not something he is good at) and not do it at all, but in that case Kamala will talk about how he ran away from her scared of her.

That is why he will do it, and because he has been a president before, and because he has been on the campaign trail for months already, I can say that he doesn't need fox, he already is in the lead, or at least he should be, and that means Kamala could get a "moderator likes me" kind of advantage, not something huge to be fair, not enough to change the outcome of the elections, so let that be. If trump loses, it wouldn't be because of this.

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Quote from: Distraction on July 27, 2024, 08:55:25 AM

The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

The assassination attempt already elevated Trump like a modern-day hero and people even assume God gave him this 2nd life to save America. It really enhances his chances, we can already see more influencers acknowledge how he handled that situation. She showed bravery to lead the country even Mark Zuckerberg, not just Elon acknowledges Trump already.

And Trump using Bitcoin to get votes from the millions of crypto users, it cemented his path. Kamala is also trying her way to crypto but I doubt it will work for her. Kamala however got better odds than Biden so there must be votes going to her, probably the loyal liberals and the ones who hated Trump to the core.

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Quote from: mindrust on July 25, 2024, 01:43:11 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on July 24, 2024, 04:59:51 PM

It is incredibly telling that the media is trying to push this narrative that Harris is beating Trump in the polls while gambling markets are overwhelming telling a different story. Maybe we need to start gambling on all the news events so we can actually get some truth instead of the media pushing their agenda.

They are trying to justify whatever evil shit they have in their mind for the election.

"Look, she won and it is not a surprise because the polls were already saying it!"

Many demrat voters cheered for the Trump shooter, expect the worst.

Yep. This is the algorithm they are going to use to steal the election again. In recent days, I have been watching the media try to distort/cancel the facts they themselves voiced about Harris and I have the impression that we are living in Orwell's novel "1984".
All these lying "fact checks" and expert opinions... I don't understand how you can lie so stupidly when everyone has the Internet and can check everything yourself. Apparently this propaganda is aimed at really stupid people (interesting choice of target audience haha).

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The current odds after Biden withdrew his candidacy are like 1.57 for Donald Trump and 2.35 for Kamala Harris.

Do you think Kamala Harris has a realistic chance to win this election? I see some media sources trying to push Kamala Harris with some fake news also. I'm not saying Trump is a good candidate either of course. Grin

But in my opinion, Trump has gained a huge advantage after that assassination attempt. He is absolutely going to use that for increasing his chance. By the way, Elon Musk is favouring him too you know and I guess I don't need to say how much influence he has over people.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 09:58:13 PM

You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

How many active Bitcoin users and investors are there in the United States? 100k? or 1 million? The number is too small to be electorally significant. And I believe that the vast majority of the Bitcoin users already support Trump. He has made many pro-Bitcoin comments during his campaign, and even promised amnesty for Ross Ulbricht in case he is elected as the POTUS. Around 3 months remain for the elections, and if the current trend continues, then we will have Donald Trump as the 48th president of the United States.

If Trump speaks in favor of bitcoin today at the bitcoin conference, it will be the decisive factor in the American elections... after all, what will decide are the hodlers and the people who buy cryptocurrencies... And I believe he will do exactly that: a speech in favor of freedom, the total abandonment of a CBDC and support for bitcoin, all for the votes, of course.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 26, 2024, 09:58:13 PM

You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

How many active Bitcoin users and investors are there in the United States? 100k? or 1 million? The number is too small to be electorally significant. And I believe that the vast majority of the Bitcoin users already support Trump. He has made many pro-Bitcoin comments during his campaign, and even promised amnesty for Ross Ulbricht in case he is elected as the POTUS. Around 3 months remain for the elections, and if the current trend continues, then we will have Donald Trump as the 48th president of the United States.

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Quote from: uneng on July 26, 2024, 09:00:01 PM

Polls always indicate a technical tie between the candidates. It's actually a phenomenon visible in the whole american continent to say the true. But the tendency is that polls always boost the left wing candidate, as recent history shows us. So I agree with you that Trump is most likely to win, considering this. I think the hype around Kamala is part of a strategical movement from Democrats to give the impression the fact they had to replace Biden by her wasn't a defeat at all.

Polls or surveys can not be trusted. A survey design is very important and can affect its result a lot. If design is bad, a survey sample is bad to represent the population in target and result will be inaccurate by many bias factors. Survey results can be considered as references but many things can be changed in reality, it's a first big problem, and as said surveys can have many bias factors and inaccurate results that are not represent the population.

Not yet to say, media in the USA. under the current Presidency has been skewed towards Democrats, with many faked and cooked news.

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However, if Kamala were so popular and strong like the media is encouraging people to believe, why wasn't she the first choice of the party as the main candidate for this election? Why would the party have to expose an elder with cognitive decline as first candidate alternative?

There is other new sources that say Kamala Harris is one of worst women politicians, not belong to best women politicians in the nation. Some people said about Kamala like this and I am not impressed with here, honestly. She luckily inherited foundations from President Joe Biden but I believe it won't be enough for her to impress citizens and win the coming President Election.

Her amazing speech and message
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1816974609637417112

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I must be biased but I hear Kamala talking and I think she is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.

Quote from: uneng on July 26, 2024, 09:00:01 PM

However, if Kamala were so popular and strong like the media is encouraging people to believe, why wasn't she the first choice of the party as the main candidate for this election? Why would the party have to expose an elder with cognitive decline as first candidate alternative?

You never know what's going on behind the scenes. In any case, there are less than 24 hours left until Trump speaks at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville and I think he can win a lot of votes from people in the cryptocurrency space, from simple holders of modest amounts to big miners.

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Quote from: STT on July 26, 2024, 06:59:43 PM

Present polls are saying a tie between Harris and Trump, this measure of the voters across USA would mean in an electoral college result that Trump most likely wins.

Polls always indicate a technical tie between the candidates. It's actually a phenomenon visible in the whole american continent to say the true. But the tendency is that polls always boost the left wing candidate, as recent history shows us. So I agree with you that Trump is most likely to win, considering this. I think the hype around Kamala is part of a strategical movement from Democrats to give the impression the fact they had to replace Biden by her wasn't a defeat at all.

However, if Kamala were so popular and strong like the media is encouraging people to believe, why wasn't she the first choice of the party as the main candidate for this election? Why would the party have to expose an elder with cognitive decline as first candidate alternative?

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Quote from: STT on July 26, 2024, 06:59:43 PM

Present polls are saying a tie between Harris and Trump, this measure of the voters across USA would mean in an electoral college result that Trump most likely wins. Things can change of course but at this point unless the situation alters alot the most likely outcome is Trump winning, this will surprise many to say the least.

At the start of the year pre trial it looked like Biden to win for sure and somehow it altered considerably from that outcome through a combination of factors as diverse as the Middle east policy to personal health. I doubt most bettors included these factors in their bets as being deciding factors. I would also consider if beyond the horizon there remains even more factors to unfold that we are not currently considering.

From where did you got the tie?

Here is the RCP polling average of all recent opinion polls:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

Trump is leading by 1.7 points. Out of the 14 recent polls, Trump is leading in 11 of them, Harris in 2 and one poll from Yahoo News predicts a tie. And according to recent polls, Trump is leading even in states such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. They were won by Biden in 2020. However some polls have sown Harris leading in New Hampshire and Minnesota.

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Present polls are saying a tie between Harris and Trump, this measure of the voters across USA would mean in an electoral college result that Trump most likely wins. Things can change of course but at this point unless the situation alters alot the most likely outcome is Trump winning, this will surprise many to say the least.

At the start of the year pre trial it looked like Biden to win for sure and somehow it altered considerably from that outcome through a combination of factors as diverse as the Middle east policy to personal health. I doubt most bettors included these factors in their bets as being deciding factors. I would also consider if beyond the horizon there remains even more factors to unfold that we are not currently considering.

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Recently I see too many people in forums that are more neutral towards republican being very negative about JD Vance.

I might disagree with his politics nearly 100% but I'm in a position to realize that for what Trump represents Vance is a perfect fit. He's a hardline conservative christian, anti abortion, protectionist, big business supporter, nationalist, hard on crime, anti immigration... He's like a mini me of Trump but also very elowuent and much more younger. If I was Trump he would have been my first pick too because he also fits Trump's tendency to pick people who aren't life long cronies for positions with high responsibilities. Not that this has brought guaranteed results in the past but it's just what Trump does.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on July 25, 2024, 11:40:47 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on July 24, 2024, 12:50:35 PM

Now that Kamala Harris has been confirmed as the POTUS nominee from the Democrat Party, we have numerous opinion polls measuring her chances against that of Donald Trump. Morning Consult, CNN, Economist/YouGov, NPR/PBS/Marist and Yahoo News have released their poll result in recent days. And do you know what is common with all of them? Trump is leading Kamala by a big margin. And then we have the outlier poll from Reuters/Ipsos, which shows Kamala Harris ahead by 2 points.

That is precisely what it is about, the decision, having a new nominee, returns hope... which was completely missing with Biden, the data is rising again, this time with the freshness of "it could be", it is to encourage the vote in discouragement, there is nothing that keeps a politician and his followers alive, like a poll does.

I see it from a very external point of view, I think that Trump's advantage will continue and will be maintained, I think that the candidate Kamala is another option, but due to the attacks that were made against TRUMP, apart from the attack on his integrity where they almost killed him, that is very decisive in people, because their emotions are on edge, for me that is the only thing that makes him win, I think that any Democratic candidate , whoever it may be, would not have it easy, this will always be a premise, therefore even though I am not American , but if they tell me to bet on someone, I think it would be Trump and I would not change my decision.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 25, 2024, 08:52:57 PM

That is what I'm saying, some media, for their hate or Trump or if they are in the payroll. So for them anything goes, doesn't matter if they can back up with data. But for us, numbers don't lie, even the betting public knows that Donald Trump is ahead by 2-3 points, 46% to 44%. It might be very close, but it's hard to overtake Trump as this point. So we will see if this media who put Harris on top will admit the defeat after the election or not. So let's see if the bookies are wrong here. But definitely, even here our pulse pointed to Donald Trump whether we like it or not.

Just 101 days remain for the Presidential elections:
https://days.to/until/election-day-in-us

It will be almost impossible for Kamala to overtake Trump, given the fact that polls always underestimate Trump's strength. If the current trend stays, then there will be a red landslide on November 2024. As they get more and more desperate, the Marxist-Leninist wing of the Democrat party (which consists of individuals such as Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama) may resort to more desperate measures. And this will have unintended consequences for the American economy.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 24, 2024, 10:46:10 PM

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I was surprised to see that narrative today, that some media outlet tells that suddenly Harris is ahead in some polls, while there are reports that Trump is still leading and that the gap he had is the same and Harris is not closing any from that lead. So it makes me wonder why? It's obvious though that they have the agenda from behind to at least picture Harris to beat Trump. But as we have said, numbers don't lie and so far we have seen sports bookies put Trump as the favorite to win this US Presidential election and there was no history to be made by Harris in this race. The best thing that Harris can do is to improved and cut that lead, but she doesn't have enough time to do that.

LOL.. mainstream media is trying hard to give a boost to Kamala Harris. But the problem is that there is no boost possible. Apart from one poll by Reuters/Ipsos that was published two days back, I haven't seen any where Harris is leading. Trump is leading by a very healthy margin. Harris is known to be harboring extreme-left ideas and that will turn off a lot of neutral and independent voters. RCP Polling gives a lead of +1.7% for Donald Trump against Kamala Harris. Even the CNN poll has Trump ahead by 3%.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

That is what I'm saying, some media, for their hate or Trump or if they are in the payroll. So for them anything goes, doesn't matter if they can back up with data. But for us, numbers don't lie, even the betting public knows that Donald Trump is ahead by 2-3 points, 46% to 44%. It might be very close, but it's hard to overtake Trump as this point. So we will see if this media who put Harris on top will admit the defeat after the election or not. So let's see if the bookies are wrong here. But definitely, even here our pulse pointed to Donald Trump whether we like it or not.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 24, 2024, 04:59:51 PM

It is incredibly telling that the media is trying to push this narrative that Harris is beating Trump in the polls while gambling markets are overwhelming telling a different story. Maybe we need to start gambling on all the news events so we can actually get some truth instead of the media pushing their agenda.

They are trying to justify whatever evil shit they have in their mind for the election.

"Look, she won and it is not a surprise because the polls were already saying it!"

Many demrat voters cheered for the Trump shooter, expect the worst.

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Trump definitely still has some chance, but what we need to remember is that Kamala raised like 100+ million total so far, which means that there is some great hype around her, not because Kamala is great or anything, but because she is not Trump, and she is not Biden. That's literally what people wanted, not a "perfect" candidate, just someone who would be better than both these old dudes. If you put in any other candidate from democratic party, they would have been hyped too.

This is more like a "anyone but them" situation, do not consider all of this support towards Kamala as something that Kamala earned, she did not, but people are tired of Trump and Biden, so they just want someone new, and that's where Kamala came in.

Yes, Trump still looks to be favourite, but Kamala isn't even officially running yet, and Kamala doesn't have the VP picked yet, and even with that, she has a better chance than Biden, imagine what will happen when she is officially candidate, picks her VP, and starts campaigning. This is going to get even uglier for Trump, doesn't mean he will lose, but she can make him work harder than Biden could, that's for sure. Biden was easy opponent, Kamala isn't one.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 24, 2024, 12:50:35 PM

Now that Kamala Harris has been confirmed as the POTUS nominee from the Democrat Party, we have numerous opinion polls measuring her chances against that of Donald Trump. Morning Consult, CNN, Economist/YouGov, NPR/PBS/Marist and Yahoo News have released their poll result in recent days. And do you know what is common with all of them? Trump is leading Kamala by a big margin. And then we have the outlier poll from Reuters/Ipsos, which shows Kamala Harris ahead by 2 points.

That is precisely what it is about, the decision, having a new nominee, returns hope... which was completely missing with Biden, the data is rising again, this time with the freshness of "it could be", it is to encourage the vote in discouragement, there is nothing that keeps a politician and his followers alive, like a poll does.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 25, 2024, 06:51:51 AM

Next, and only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris will take place on 10th September, and will be hosted by the ABC Network. The debate will be moderated by David Muir (anchor of ABC World News Tonight) and Linsey Davis (anchor of ABC News Live Prime). But there is some uncertainty as well. Trump supporters have cast doubt regarding the neutrality of the anchors, as well as that of the anchors. They want the debate to be hosted by Fox Network (which is unacceptable for the Democrat nominee).

Can you blame them? If you look at the story Fox has had (I would not even dare to call that channel "News" , by the way) it is easy to assume they do not actually care to show people in their homes about the reality the country is going through. Granted, Neither CNN would like to be unbiased and neutral, but when comes to Fox, they have proven themselves to go as far as defaming companies and people alike. They settled an historic defamation lawsuit against the voting systems they smeared for months and now they are getting sued by Hunted Biden himself... It is quite funny, because after that pinch they got on their wallet, each time someone (like Trump) is broadcast says the 2020 presidential election was stolen, they need to get a pause and say otherwise.
That is the only way corporate media learns from mistakes, by Lossing enough money to correct course.

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