Topic: [350 GH/s] "Eligius" (experimental) pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome - page 17. (Read 116988 times)

I don't know how atefact is calculating his average, so who knows.  But since this is all about probability, over a long time period the average on the graph should approach what my miner is telling me, however it is constantly at 60% of what my miner is saying - and there are no spikes on the graph, etc. 

I'm curious if everyone else's average on the graph is in line with their own stats from their miner or if they are seeing the same deviation as I am.

what do you mean by estimated Hash rate ?

do you mean this side: http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/1FjGRR6hDTGhVmQ3ZYc1QBBTJ5TQH1Vtft (your ID ofc)

if yes
theres only 1 time estimate : 1.) "Current block estimate :"
(this dosent belong to your hash rate)

the 2 things with Hash rate i found where:

 2.) "This user has submitted 175 shares in the last 3 hours. This represents a contribution in average of 69.59 Mhashes/sec to the pool."

3.) "and the Graph with your Hash rate at each time."

if you mean the third:

Iam not realy shure about bitcoin and what itt dose but if iam right its like this.
- you get a block and have to calculate something
- after you done this you write your awnser
- because your computer is stupid he hase to brotforce the awnser so he juses try and error
- so there is a total of X possibles Awnsers and the pool says "You get a block and after Y Trys you have to get the awnser"
- so the pool sends you the Block and starts counting how long it takes for you to "Calculate" (its Try and Error) the awnser and he stops the time when he gets the awnser
so there are 2 Difficultis your lag in internet capacity/ping this time is your comp not calculation but the pool is counting (so you lose some Hashs)
because you try and error the awnser you mabye get the result after Y/2 so the pool things your faster then you are
same if you need 2 * Y for the awnser so the pool things you need to much time means you got low hash rate

Why i think my interpretation is right.
i followed the receved block times
normaly i thing i need 15 sec per block
but form time to time i get some 1 sec blocks (menas i get 1 block every 1 sec)
and so the pool things iam faster then iam

foir this i refer to my site: http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/1FjGRR6hDTGhVmQ3ZYc1QBBTJ5TQH1Vtft
i got a top pick of 170 MHash/s but my comp is only 150MHash/s for the hole time so in this time intervall i was very lucky and got some nice trys
at the end (so around 20o'clock i got only 130MHash/s but iam still running on 150MHash)

thats all i have to say to three

about second one its how many shares you got since last 3 hours if your Mining like me only in the eavaning
you start with 1 solved in 3 hours this revers to low MHash but if your going 3h with your full hash rate than the pool shoud estimate your right Hash rate

if somethigns wrong pls say whats wrong
if you want to know more about my opineone feel free to ask

White

Hi there,

I've been using the pool for a few days now and I notice my "estimated" hash rate is less than 60% of my actual?  Is there any reason for this?  I'm not getting a lot of rejected or invalid blocks on my miner, and my generation rate seems to be lacking somewhat as well.

FWIW I'm using DiabloMiner. 

Holy color changing graph Batman!

yes now i also see them. It was not before. giving 404 error.

I can see them.

Can some one please explain why my page suddenly not exist?
http://eligius.st/~artefact2/us/1KaSXG6ncuriX2MXpsFohT7eELNQJSiS1E.htm
http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/1KaSXG6ncuriX2MXpsFohT7eELNQJSiS1E.htm

Hi,

Edit: problem solved the drivers wernd right installed so problem solved now.

sry if my post is a little bit wrong here but i still want to try

i Downloded newest version of:
BitCoin from original site
and
poclbm_py2exe_20110428

i coud install everything and when i start
it with
poclbm.exe -d1 --host=mining.eligius.st --port=8337 --user=My Acc (ya i wrote the right thing here) --pass=x

i get the msg
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\...
***CAL version mismatch:
This OpenCL build requires version 1.4.879, version 1.4.636 installed.
Aborting.
No device specified or device not found, use -d to specify one of the following

• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

i got an ATI Radeon HD 5700

i Downloded also the newest version of
AMD-APP-SDK-c2.4-Windows-64
(bevore i did this i coudnt start the mining tool i got no openCL)

So the question is why i cannot use my GPU?
If you need further information i will try to get them.

i used -d0 and it worked with my CPU i got 3,4MH/s

thx White

But they don't payout immediately as part of the same block you worked on
The estimate isn't per 24 hours, it's per-block; right now, Europe should find a block on average every 21 hours, which works out to 0.41 BTC every 24. You should see your estimate creep up (possibly slowly) toward the point where it reaches the full .56 BTC per 24 hours (which would be .49 BTC per 21).

thanks for the concise and clear explanation!

however that means something is off with my calculations: the bitcoin mining calculator shows .56 btc per 24 hours of 240mh/s, whereas on the pool it's only .36, which is a big enough difference to question rentability...

Take the total hashing power of the EU pool and figure out what fraction of that you are contributing. That will be the maximum return you can get per block after it is split up from the 50btc. You were climbing up to that percent but cannot go above that without adding more hashing power therefore increasing the percent you are contributing.

pretty new to mining -- started using the eu eligius pool yesterday, and for the first 12 hours the rate climbed as expected. but starting this morning the expected earning curve slowly flattens out and is now almost horizontal == no new earnings are being added at all. hashing rate has been a almost constant 240mh/s for the past 24 hours.

can anyone explain this behavior to me?

I'm not sure why everyone assumes this is easy, or even possible... The main difficulty is finding a way to handle network issues when they can't talk.[/quote]
What I was implying was not to mine on the same block but to share revenues from found blocks of one pool with the other, and the other way around.

That should be viable because you need network connectivity only on bounty time.

just noted that with phatk kernel I can run on both us and eu servers and it divides hashing power evenly 50:50 unlike poclbm

bitclockers pool has 3 seperate servers, 2 in the US and 1 in the czech republic maybe have a word with them as its a great feature which makes it fully redundant too

I'm not sure why everyone assumes this is easy, or even possible... The main difficulty is finding a way to handle network issues when they can't talk.

Luke: since Eligius is still a little pool, why not join the eu and us pools together to minimize the variance?

The US server seems to be down right now.

To all the people seeing coins go away that is your estimated balance. On the updated stats pages you will see a total BTC count in the page title. This includes your confirmed reward from previously found blocks (shown in green on the chart) and your estimated reward from the next block when it is found (shown in that pinkish-purple color). If you quit mining for a while your total work submitted towards the next block goes down in relation to the total work being submitted for it while you aren't mining. After you start mining for a while it will go back up as your shares submitted start getting closer to your estimated hashing power contributed to the pool.

Green part = fixed (from previous blocks), red part = what you will earn additionally in this round.

If you stop mining and others still mine, your reative contribution goes down, and so does your reward for this round.

yeah maybe theres some luck factor but not with the descreasing bitcoins balance... if i stopped mining i shouldnt lose my coins... looks like stats shows something but i think its not the BT balance.... but than how i can see how many coins i have now? or should I start mining and wait a week and hope that ill get something?