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Topic: [350 GH/s] "Eligius" (experimental) pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome - page 26. (Read 116992 times)

member
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Cant seem to pull my stats anymore from coin control now, any ideas
legendary
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What happened to luke.dashjr.org? It's down and no JSON stats are available though the RPC server seems to work fine.

Damn that explains why the graph on the stats page does not update (see link a few posts back) Sad I thought it was just lag. Should've hunted through the thread to find the json stats link.

Dammit without some sort of stats I don't feel comfortable mining for this pool. *Sigh* I guess it's back to a non experimental pool I go.

newbie
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What happened to luke.dashjr.org? It's down and no JSON stats are available though the RPC server seems to work fine.
staff
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The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

It's not continuous because once a block is going your share of it doesn't change much, assuming everyone keeps a mostly constant rate.

It jumps right after getting a new block because the initial stats are noisy and dominated by the miners luck in finding shares at that moment, also because the rate changes that happened late in the last round are no longer diluted by lots of pre-existing shares.

It would also be neat to follow the blockchain and add up all the eligius payouts for the address on the same graph.


legendary
Activity: 3080
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Hi guys. I have an update in regards to my experience with this pool.

I was previously having major connectivity and stale share issues with guiminer (poclbm) so it occured to me to try phoenix 1.47 and I'm glad to report that the number of stale/rejected shares is now within acceptible limits. As for the connectivity issues, I haven't had any so far - but I only switched back to Eligius today. I will keep an eye on it and report back.

I would also recommend those of you that use the Phoenix miner to swap the kernel for the phatk one..err..that is only if you have a 5870 or 5970. The modified kernel works equally well on both cards (as 5970 is 2 5870s in 1 basically). I get 371 Mhash on average with average with aggression level 7. I used to get 350 top.

So you do the math Smiley
legendary
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I was feeling bored yesterday, so I did a little program to see the balance of addresses in the pool, with a nice graph.

It's similar to the coin-control thing, but it only shows the balance (no shares / MH/s) and a graph.
How to see it ? Just go to http://eligius.artefact2.com/, for example : http://eligius.artefact2.com/1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ
The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

Keep in mind : this is hosted at home with a modest upload speed. If you have access to something better and you like this, maybe we could make an arrangement Smiley
You can see the source at : http://eligius.artefact2.com/index.phps http://eligius.artefact2.com/update.phps (yes, it's really 2 files).

If you have feedback or issues, feel free to report them (here, or by email, my address is on the main page). If you like it and would like to donate a little something, my address is 1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ. Thanks !

Wow, nice. I am so glad that you created this as another user's version is down at the moment. I will switch to monitoring with this. Also thanks for sharing the source. I will put it up online on my dedicated server as a backup.
newbie
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Final Thoughts

My main gains came from going from BFI_INT* to just BFI_INT without the "*" and setting my worksize to 128 - the aggression always helps too, however id only use the aggression above if your letting your pc just mine, if not, drop it to 6 or 7, makes the PC much more useable Smiley
The asterisk in BFI_INT has never been part of the option itself but a remark that this option is only valid for some ATI/AMD cards (5xxx and 69xx). The remark text was lost somewhere in between all those blind copy & pastes of the sample command lines.

By the way, did you try the Phateus kernel? It gives some visible hash rate bump on my dual 5870 miner rig. The kernel is optimized for 5870 and reported as being slower on 6970 but your mileage may vary.
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Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.
This is somehow expected, as the value (as far as I got it) is combined of: Fixed amount of BTC from past rounds + variable (changing/proportional) amount of BTC from this round. Every time a round ends, the value kinda gets frozen and on top of that, the new variable amount is placed.

Example: .30 BTC from previous rounds, this round I have 1% of shares (=0.50 BTC) --> ~0.80 BTC displayed. As soon as a block is found, I still continue to have 1% of hashing power, so I still have 1% of shares --> ~1.30 BTC displayed. If I stopped immediately after a few shares, this value would go down to a minimum of ~0.80BTC again over time, as others are still producing shares, but I am no longer doing that.

Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for the explanation!
legendary
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Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.
This is somehow expected, as the value (as far as I got it) is combined of: Fixed amount of BTC from past rounds + variable (changing/proportional) amount of BTC from this round. Every time a round ends, the value kinda gets frozen and on top of that, the new variable amount is placed.

Example: .30 BTC from previous rounds, this round I have 1% of shares (=0.50 BTC) --> ~0.80 BTC displayed. As soon as a block is found, I still continue to have 1% of hashing power, so I still have 1% of shares --> ~1.30 BTC displayed. If I stopped immediately after a few shares, this value would go down to a minimum of ~0.80BTC again over time, as others are still producing shares, but I am no longer doing that.
newbie
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I was feeling bored yesterday, so I did a little program to see the balance of addresses in the pool, with a nice graph.

It's similar to the coin-control thing, but it only shows the balance (no shares / MH/s) and a graph.
How to see it ? Just go to http://eligius.artefact2.com/, for example : http://eligius.artefact2.com/1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ
The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

Keep in mind : this is hosted at home with a modest upload speed. If you have access to something better and you like this, maybe we could make an arrangement Smiley
You can see the source at : http://eligius.artefact2.com/index.phps http://eligius.artefact2.com/update.phps (yes, it's really 2 files).

If you have feedback or issues, feel free to report them (here, or by email, my address is on the main page). If you like it and would like to donate a little something, my address is 1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ. Thanks !

cool tool, thanks!

member
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Setup guide for 6990 cards!! Windows 7 x64 for lukes pool

Ok guys, just spent a little time trying to find the best values for my 6990 - I have had many differing hash rates dependant on settins, ad on this card it can go from 290mh/s to what im at now 400mh/s

To start with i downloaded the newest Phoenix miner: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/phoenix-efficient-fast-modular-miner-6458

I then extracted straight to my c:\ drive with folder phoenix : c:\phoenix

Once the files are extracted i got to work with the settings, firing straight up i got a lowly 300mh/s but trawled through this thread, made various changes and got myself up!

I decided to create a .bat file so i could run it from the desktop - starting both cores of the 6990 at the same time.

How to Create a .bat file

Right click on your desktop and create a new txt document - i.e notepad

Call it whatever you want, you need to now (if you already dont have the setting enabled) make sure the file type is displayed for the document so you can modify it.

If you need to enable that simply go to folder options and untick "hide known filetypes"

rename the ".txt" document to ".bat"

Right click the now .bat file and select edit, it will look just like a notepad file, now you can start typing.

Here is what mine looks like - you can copy and paste this into it, but remeber to put your settings in Smiley

start /DC:\phoenix phoenix.exe -u http://yourwalletaddress:[email protected]:8337 -k poclbm DEVICE=0 VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP AGGRESSION=11 WORKSIZE=128
start /DC:\phoenix phoenix.exe -u http://yourwalletaddress:[email protected]:8337 -k poclbm DEVICE=1 VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP AGGRESSION=11 WORKSIZE=128


The above settings will get you mining on lukejrs pool Eligius @ around 400mh/s with 925 core on the graphics card.

Save the .bat file and run it from the desktop Smiley

Just thought it might help some newbie miners (like me) without taking up loads of time.

Final Thoughts

My main gains came from going from BFI_INT* to just BFI_INT without the "*" and setting my worksize to 128 - the aggression always helps too, however id only use the aggression above if your letting your pc just mine, if not, drop it to 6 or 7, makes the PC much more useable Smiley

Donations welcome if this helped even just a little.

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Edit: this is outdated, see this post : http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=6667.msg125918#msg125918

I was feeling bored yesterday, so I did a little program to see the balance of addresses in the pool, with a nice graph.

It's similar to the coin-control thing, but it only shows the balance (no shares / MH/s) and a graph.
How to see it ? Just go to http://eligius.artefact2.com/, for example : http://eligius.artefact2.com/1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ
The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

Keep in mind : this is hosted at home with a modest upload speed. If you have access to something better and you like this, maybe we could make an arrangement Smiley
You can see the source at : http://eligius.artefact2.com/index.phps http://eligius.artefact2.com/update.phps (yes, it's really 2 files).

If you have feedback or issues, feel free to report them (here, or by email, my address is on the main page). If you like it and would like to donate a little something, my address is 1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ. Thanks !
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Connections on port 80 are currently being refused for me.
full member
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I have my account with mybitcoin.
There's your problem.
See the first post, specifically this:
WARNING: Generations won't show up on your MtGox/MyBitcoin/etc. balance, so make sure you use the address of a standalone client for payouts. (thanks theymos!)
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But the system that Eligius is using is 100% valid; all it's doing is paying out its shares directly from generated blocks instead of using transactions.

And that's what makes Eligius the best pool ever Smiley
full member
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Sad Ok but for the future can't you use the same system the other pools are using to avoid problems like this ? I contacted mybitcoin btw. Let's see if they'll fix it. If they refuse I will certainly consider not using them anymore.

I don't run Eligius, so it's not up to me.  But the system that Eligius is using is 100% valid; all it's doing is paying out its shares directly from generated blocks instead of using transactions.  The fault lies entirely with MyBitCoin for not properly supporting the entire Bitcoin protocol.  Losing 5 BTC sucks, but it's not the end of the world.  Heck, it may pay you back over time anyway, because you've only lost 5 BTC, but if you had kept using MyBitCoin, if it was ever compromised at some point in the future you would have lost everything.
newbie
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You shouldn't be using MyBitCoin.  When you use that site, all of your private keys are in someone else's hands.  Download and run the client on your local machine and, once you get a local receiving address, transfer everything from MyBitCoin to there.

Additionally I think we've heard some reported issues about MyBitCoin not working very well with pools.  It looks like that happened in this case.  The money did correctly go to that listed receiving address, but MyBitCoin isn't showing it as available to you in your account page.  I don't know what your recourse is.  Talk to them?  If you had been running the client locally you would have the BTC in your hands now.

Sad Ok but for the future can't you use the same system the other pools are using to avoid problems like this ? I contacted mybitcoin btw. Let's see if they'll fix it. If they refuse I will certainly consider not using them anymore.
full member
Activity: 154
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You shouldn't be using MyBitCoin.  When you use that site, all of your private keys are in someone else's hands.  Download and run the client on your local machine and, once you get a local receiving address, transfer everything from MyBitCoin to there.

Additionally I think we've heard some reported issues about MyBitCoin not working very well with pools.  It looks like that happened in this case.  The money did correctly go to that listed receiving address, but MyBitCoin isn't showing it as available to you in your account page.  I don't know what your recourse is.  Talk to them?  If you had been running the client locally you would have the BTC in your hands now.
newbie
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Nick, I really don't know what to say.  Those transactions are in the blockchain.  Ergo, you have access to them.  The only thing I can think of is if your address isn't actually 17AtLW6bEkNESifTLFRcWUYAvfb7mnUkTz, or if your Bitcoin client somehow isn't keeping up to date with the blockchain anymore.  Try restarting Bitcoin.  If that doesn't work, take a screenshot both of your "All Transactions" tab and the Settings -> Your Receiving Addresses popup window and post them here.  (Note that the only thing being displayed on these screenshots will be address hashes, so they're perfectly safe to release into the wild if you will; they aren't the private keys that are necessary to actually obtain access to your coints).

I have my account with mybitcoin. Screenshot here: http://i56.tinypic.com/zwlwfk.jpg
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Nick, I really don't know what to say.  Those transactions are in the blockchain.  Ergo, you have access to them.  The only thing I can think of is if your address isn't actually 17AtLW6bEkNESifTLFRcWUYAvfb7mnUkTz, or if your Bitcoin client somehow isn't keeping up to date with the blockchain anymore.  Try restarting Bitcoin.  If that doesn't work, take a screenshot both of your "All Transactions" tab and the Settings -> Your Receiving Addresses popup window and post them here.  (Note that the only thing being displayed on these screenshots will be address hashes, so they're perfectly safe to release into the wild if you will; they aren't the private keys that are necessary to actually obtain access to your coints).
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