Topic: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping - page 65. (Read 122577 times)

Anyone from Australia?

So, anyone from central EU willing to chip in?
I willing to drive to Germany/Austria/Italy/Slovenia/Croatia/Hungary to pick up the unit.

Here is what Chloe told me on July 4th:

"For group buy, shipping is a concern since we can only enjoy discount from DHL for at least 31kg. Suggestion is that each customer buy at least three units. For customers who use their own carrier account, this won’t be a problem."

And that statement would be incorrect about the first group buy.  I and another member here already have our order in with Chloe and we will be shipping our order to Searing here as the trusted party for our order.  If you want to join us in that purchase you can still do so.  PM me and I can message Inno and let them know there will be more orders coming in to include in our order.
 

Now that's confusing....

Interesting, even though I told her I was with the group by, she told me 5 units.

Quote from Chloe:
If you buy only 3, then I’ll have to wait for somebody else from the group to place an order of at least 3 units, since you are the first one to claim that you are from the group buy.

I suppose I could be reading that wrong, but she required at least 5 units to a single address.

The minimum order to a shipment location was 3 in order to get the discount from DHL.

My discussions with Chloe she has always said minimum 5 units.
She did not say "multiples" of 5 units, so im assuming you could order 6, 7, etc... to a single address.

I thought the bulk buy limit was 3 units to a location.  Did that change?

I'm EU-based, central Europe, sort of.

Please let us know your location and people will chime in and maybe you can coordinate a common shipping point.  If your in the US it isn't too late to join in our group buy that we already have going.  Just let us know and maybe we can help.

For those in EU you should announce your interest here and read back through this thread and reach out to those who have said they want to buy a miner in the EU.  Then arrange a trusted person to receive the miners and forward them to you.

Would be helpfull to specify a location, since "if" you buy a group of 5, you will have to re-distribute from a single shipping location.
That could hurt some folks if they are far away from you.

I´m interested, but im wondering how much the shipping and customs will be....am living in Germany

Hi guys,
so is somebody interested in actually buying the device (A4)?

I am, so I need 4 more ppl.

 110 MH/s generates about 1 litecoin/day over most of the last year - $3-$5 a day depending on Litecoin price that day, usually close to $4 in recent months.
 Cost FOR ME where I'm at now to run that A2 (1250 watts appx.) is a little over $1/day - and if I managed to get moved into one of the 2 "counties next door" that I'm PLANNING to eventually relocate into, that would drop to a bit UNDER $1/day.
 
 ROI isn't difficult if price and difficulty stay stable - it's just a matter of months - but the introduction of the A4 is going to kick difficulty up quite a bit over time, making it quite a bit less likely that an A2 unit purchased NOW will ever achieve ROI unless the purchase price is very low.

 I do NOT have a "massive" mining farm - if I DID have one, I could get into a much electric rate and wouldn't be inclined to move.
 I ran my existing farm in a MOBILE HOME for most of a year before I moved to where I'm at now.


 Do note that there are very very few places in the US that have a lower YEAR-ROUND NO GIMMICKS electric rate for small farms than where I am currently at - both of them are "next door" to the county I'm in.



 Not sure where you're comming up with your numbers at - the electric isn't unreasonably *IF* you're paying 10-15 CENTS/KWH, but that mining amount hasn't been in the right ballpark for something like 2 years.



 Trading to make more than $3/day on the amount that an A2 has commonly cost in recent months is VERY VERY iffy - and you have a significant chance of LOSING money. There is NO "safely" when trying to trade for profit.

Well for 1, some power is way less for instance I'll be paying $50 not "$100-150" (which in itself is a wide damn range) a month to run these. Second even just mining on nicehash will net $10+ a day. So 2 years is an overly pessimistic estimation.

Just the swings in btc alone, would be better to trade btc. You can safely make more from trading than buying a piece of hardware to mine.

Wouldn't ROI be extremely difficult with this device? For those thinking of preordering, I currently run an A2Terminator (which is 1000W power and 100MH unit.
This is roughly 3x the power. At most you will get 2 LTC/day (Assuming you are mining LTC)
Thats roughly 8$/day, the machine itself will jack your powerbill up by nearly 100-150$
Just throwing out estimations here but
2LTC/day for 30 days = 240$
150$ mining costs for electricity leaves roughly 90$ profit for one month.
roughly 3$/day.
These devices will take more than 2 years to ROI thats assuming the difficulty on the network stays the same as well as price. Which we all know will likely increase causing these devices to never come close to ROI.
I'm just trying to help anyone who might think this is a good idea to purchase 1.
These devices only have practical application somewhere with cheap electricity and en mass devices.
And still would be difficult to ROI.
I was in the first generation of scrypt asics that came out. Unless you have a massive mining operation, you will never ROI. Your better trading to make money vs mining (you can make more than 3$/day)

Catch is every legit or un legit asic maker of scrypt and/or sha-256 miners I've ever heard of has been at LEAST 1 month late. Just saying it is very very common or at least it was
in the heyday.

Agreed. I thought about getting another A2 as a stop-gap until the A4 ships, but at the current prices it's just hard to justify.
Almost better to save the money and put it into another A4.

 Yup, but that answer was directed more to the question of why are folks still running their A2 units - and are they still profitable NOW (they are if you don't have rates in the "near US average" range, which no serious miner would put up with).

 I would NOT recommend anyone BUY an A2 unit at this time, unless they have VERY low rates and get it VERY cheap, or they have 3c OR LESS electric and get it fairly cheap, or they have FREE electric.