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August 17, 2014, 07:59:42 AM
#44
There is one thing I can definitely guarantee you - Quickseller is not going to go after you criminally or civilly.

"Your honor, I'm on this Bitcoin forum (oh, you mean that darknet anonymous serial killer drug dealer fake money?) and I buy and sell member accounts so people can impersonate and scam people, and/or promote illegal gambling websites. Well, some user tried to get back the $5 account that was hacked and sold to me! Put the original user in jail!"

legendary
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August 17, 2014, 07:19:52 AM
#43
I got a PM from user "Quickseller" titled "Purchased Account" and i want the conversation to be public so im posting this here! 



I am going to ask you this one time.

You are well aware of what our agreement was, and I have fulfilled my end of our agreement. What you are doing is libel against me. As BadBear has previously stated it is clear that you should not own the account anymore.

I want you to retract your previous statements regarding the fact that you claim your account was stolen (as your account was in fact not stolen), and to admit that you were attempting to scam another user on this forum (as this is what you are doing). If you do this within the next 3 hours and I do not receive any similar accusations about this account then I agree to not pursue any criminal or civil charges against you.

What you are attempting to do is commit larceny as you are trying to steal what is owed by someone else.

If you do not retract your previous statements, or if I receive a similar attack on this attack in the future then I reserve my right to do what is in my power to see that you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and to pursue your assets in civil court to the fullest extent of the law if I so choose to do so. 

I have found other similar accusations against other accounts with a similar MO as what you have done. I would not be surprised if you were involved in these cases as well.

If you feel that you are in the right then if I see appropriate I will see that the courts resolve this matter.



So it is you? You are in control of my "Zedicus" Account?

Look man you seem to have had a conversation with someone that wasnt me!

Lets have this dialog out in the open in the meta thread! I have nothing to hide! Im just the guy who lost his account to a thief, im not sure you are hearing me loud and clear on this.

I would like mods and theymos and anyone else to hear what is said between us! If you say you are in the right like you say you are then you should have nothing to hide! In fact you should demand this conversation be in public!!

Continued here???
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-hacked-help-plz-741302


I will post this there, I look forward to your reply.





Now, I think there is a great twist in the story. The account was not only sold. It was stolen and sold !!! I'm not sure who should be considered as the true owner now.
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August 17, 2014, 06:38:10 AM
#42
I got a PM from user "Quickseller" titled "Purchased Account" and i want the conversation to be public so im posting this here! 

Assuming what "Quickseller" said is true, it is possible that someone has hacked your "Zedicus" account and then sold it to "Quickseller" soon after.
Seriously I have no idea how this mess should be resolved...
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August 17, 2014, 01:58:20 AM
#41
I got a PM from user "Quickseller" titled "Purchased Account" and i want the conversation to be public so im posting this here! 



I am going to ask you this one time.

You are well aware of what our agreement was, and I have fulfilled my end of our agreement. What you are doing is libel against me. As BadBear has previously stated it is clear that you should not own the account anymore.

I want you to retract your previous statements regarding the fact that you claim your account was stolen (as your account was in fact not stolen), and to admit that you were attempting to scam another user on this forum (as this is what you are doing). If you do this within the next 3 hours and I do not receive any similar accusations about this account then I agree to not pursue any criminal or civil charges against you.

What you are attempting to do is commit larceny as you are trying to steal what is owed by someone else.

If you do not retract your previous statements, or if I receive a similar attack on this attack in the future then I reserve my right to do what is in my power to see that you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and to pursue your assets in civil court to the fullest extent of the law if I so choose to do so. 

I have found other similar accusations against other accounts with a similar MO as what you have done. I would not be surprised if you were involved in these cases as well.

If you feel that you are in the right then if I see appropriate I will see that the courts resolve this matter.



So it is you? You are in control of my "Zedicus" Account?

Look man you seem to have had a conversation with someone that wasnt me!

Lets have this dialog out in the open in the meta thread! I have nothing to hide! Im just the guy who lost his account to a thief, im not sure you are hearing me loud and clear on this.

I would like mods and theymos and anyone else to hear what is said between us! If you say you are in the right like you say you are then you should have nothing to hide! In fact you should demand this conversation be in public!!

Continued here???
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-hacked-help-plz-741302


I will post this there, I look forward to your reply.




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August 16, 2014, 05:13:14 PM
#40
In my opinion, bayuo is the only one providing solid evidence as to why the Zedicus account should be his. If we are going to assume that every time a situation like this pops up it is because a user sold his account, it can lead down a very slippery slope. I don't think that should be assumed unless this scenario happens to a user more than once or evidence is provided (IE. Screenshots of negotiations and payment transaction IDs.)

Anyways.. I am completely against the selling of forum accounts as they can only be used for nefarious purposes such as cheating coin giveaways, alt coin distributions, or signature campaigns. Or for simply scamming forum users by purchasing an account that people would trust by other means.

IMO, Bayuo has provided enough evidence to have his account back, unless the Zedicus account can provide some evidence to the contrary that the original owner of the account sold it to him. So far he has provided no evidence to support this claim.





Hey CH!! Thanks for confirming my Signed msg!!

I did not in anyway Sell my user account or anyuser account for that matter EVER!!!

Except for this bayuo account i made to report this thief, Ive never had another bitcointalk account besides Zedicus!!!!

 
I have never participated in the selling of usernames of anything remotely related!!
In fact i just found out people were selling usernames at bitcointalk when i got a PM yesterday from a user named "quickseller"  who implied that i had such dealings but i did not reply. No doubt he is the scammer using another account because he didnt post it here, he sent a pm instead! Here is the pm in question..


its hard to make out wtf this guy is saying.. Looks like he sent the pm to another user with a similar name except with two "cc's" --->  ( " Zediccus " ) <<---- NOT MY ACCOUNT/ DIFFERENT SPELLING
  
This is the pm i got! like i said i have no doubt its the scammer trying to bait me into a conversation!


http://imgur.com/fPocOIX




I have never replied to or talked to anyone regarding ANY account selling of any kind whatsoever!!!



I think we are forgetting one thing, there is another chance may be OP sold his account now try to recover
by trying to say his account hacked, there is big possibilities of this too.

But buying account, there is always possibilities of recover by old owner, that is why buying account is very risky.


AGAIN i have never ever sold my account or any accounts or anything remotely related! ( EVER )




In fact the only transactions ive made here at bitcointalk have been with CoinHoarder for a 14 btc transaction on a groupbuy, some potcoins i sold to some guy named devnullius... and I also made a donation to organofcorti, the guy who does the stats at http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/.

THATS IT!!! Outside of those, Ive never had any other transactions with anyone here at bitcointalk for any reason, let alone some fraudulent account related crap!!


Im trying to be 1000% percent transparent ive signed all the btc accounts related to my bitcointalk account Zedicus.

Im no doubt 1000% the owner of the account.

 
Im bending backwards to be transparent and the scammer who is still impersonating me hasnt posted any proof whats so ever!!  

I dont know what else to say! Like i said to BadBear when he posted! I wave all privacy rights if you think you have have some supposed proof POST THAT SHIT!  Im waving all my privacy rights because i know i didnt sell my account and or im not up to anything shady in any way!

I can 1000% percent verify that i did not sell my account or any account EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope i am being 1000% crystal clear to anyone who reads this, mods, theymos or otherwise!!!!




By the way!!! I believe this is the last time i had access to my account!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7798338

I posted that!!
 

 
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August 16, 2014, 04:15:49 PM
#39
In my opinion, bayuo is the only one providing solid evidence as to why the Zedicus account should be his. If we are going to assume that every time a situation like this pops up it is because a user sold his account, it can lead down a very slippery slope. I don't think that should be assumed unless this scenario happens to a user more than once or evidence is provided (IE. Screenshots of negotiations and payment transaction IDs.)

It makes perfect sense to show these information only to an admin as bought accounts are frowned upon. It is allowed, yet the community does not like it.

Anyways.. I am completely against the selling of forum accounts as they can only be used for nefarious purposes such as cheating coin giveaways, alt coin distributions, or signature campaigns. Or for simply scamming forum users by purchasing an account that people would trust by other means.

Thanks for making my point here.
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August 16, 2014, 03:26:41 PM
#38
In my opinion, bayuo is the only one providing solid evidence as to why the Zedicus account should be his. If we are going to assume that every time a situation like this pops up it is because a user sold his account, it can lead down a very slippery slope. I don't think that should be assumed unless this scenario happens to a user more than once or evidence is provided (IE. Screenshots of negotiations and payment transaction IDs.)

Anyways.. I am completely against the selling of forum accounts as they can only be used for nefarious purposes such as cheating coin giveaways, alt coin distributions, or signature campaigns. Or for simply scamming forum users by purchasing an account that people would trust by other means.

IMO, Bayuo has provided enough evidence to have his account back, unless the Zedicus account can provide some evidence to the contrary that the original owner of the account sold it to him. So far he has provided no evidence to support this claim.
legendary
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August 16, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
#37
I think we are forgetting one thing, there is another chance may be OP sold his account now try to recover
by trying to say his account hacked, there is big possibilities of this too.

But buying account, there is always possibilities of recover by old owner, that is why buying account is very risky.
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August 16, 2014, 10:33:58 AM
#36
Hey BadBear!

Can you or another mod temp ban my "Zedicus" account till this is sorted! Huh




 
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August 16, 2014, 10:13:45 AM
#35
This is a perfect example of why I don't want to restore accounts (for the most part).  While bayuo obviously did control the Zedicus account at one point, and is probably the original owner, there appears to be a pretty good reason he doesn't anymore (I won't elaborate for privacy reasons). Though there really is no way to be positive either way.

Exemplifies perfectly what I was saying the other day about signing addresses not being conclusive proof that the person signing *should* be in control of that account.  

Can we get any conformation from staff if they check ip logs in case of hacked accounts.

Yes, but it isn't conclusive proof anymore than signing an address is, just a piece of evidence.  


Thanks for chiming in!!


Please elaborate!!! I give you full permission !!! I have nothing to hide in anyway!!

I just dont understand why changing email accounts doesnt require email verification!

Like when you want to change a password most sites require you to know the old password!!


This thief stole my account and changed the email address associated with the account...


He does not have access to my email or btc addresses ! A simple email verification check to change email addresses would have stopped this guy dead in his tracks!!  Sad






This guy nailed it right on the head!  




I took a look at the account's post history and your claim is looking to be more credible by the moment. As anyone can check, the original owner of the account was quite sporadic in posting. Then suddenly, August 14 comes and the account suddenly makes close to 80 posts in just a couple of days. The speed at which the posts are made is clearly due to the PD advertising found in the signature. If bayuo is indeed telling the truth, then someone prolly hacked the account in order to sell the account to a fool or to participate in a signature campaign himself/herself. I would recommend contacting Stunna about this matter as well, since payday is on the 17th. If bayuo can prove his/her claim, then we can stop any payments to the hacker. If not, then we can all vouch for zedicus in the future.
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August 16, 2014, 10:09:35 AM
#34
This is a perfect example of why I don't want to restore accounts (for the most part).  While bayuo obviously did control the Zedicus account at one point, and is probably the original owner, there appears to be a pretty good reason he doesn't anymore (I won't elaborate for privacy reasons). Though there really is no way to be positive either way.

Exemplifies perfectly what I was saying the other day about signing addresses not being conclusive proof that the person signing *should* be in control of that account.  

Can we get any conformation from staff if they check ip logs in case of hacked accounts.

Yes, but it isn't conclusive proof anymore than signing an address is, just a piece of evidence.  


hmm... smells like something happened in a certain section under marketplace... if I'm not wrong Wink
legendary
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August 16, 2014, 09:59:03 AM
#33
This is a perfect example of why I don't want to restore accounts (for the most part).  While bayuo obviously did control the Zedicus account at one point, and is probably the original owner, there appears to be a pretty good reason he doesn't anymore (I won't elaborate for privacy reasons). Though there really is no way to be positive either way.

Exemplifies perfectly what I was saying the other day about signing addresses not being conclusive proof that the person signing *should* be in control of that account.  

Can we get any conformation from staff if they check ip logs in case of hacked accounts.

Yes, but it isn't conclusive proof anymore than signing an address is, just a piece of evidence.  
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August 16, 2014, 09:48:27 AM
#32
I would be so glad if mods did an ip check!!


I just sent Theymos a second PM! Seems i found a bug whilst tripple checking my original signed msg i sent him!

I included "" quotes around my username and email address in the signed message like below which made verification fail!

Like i was telling Theymos .. It seems when i copied the signed msg from notepad to: "brainwallet.github.io/#verify" it worked fine and verified.

I wanted to check the output or how "Theymos" would see it so i pasted the same signed msg into the browser like any other post and clicked PREVIEW. Then i copied the results and tried to verify it and it DOES NOT!

I think it had to do with the quotes i used around my username and around my email address!

Here is the template i used that caused the "OUTPUTED" verification to fail!  


-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi my account "zedicus" got hacked.
Please reset the email to  "[email protected]"
The current date is "8/13/2014"


-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1A29gJEFXB2yJ7kVVmR7xrnZTj4yeumwyU

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----




I have resent my signed msg to Theymos!  Hopefully he can clear this right up!

If anyone can find me Stunna i think he is the guy running the advertizing thing on the stolen sig!!


Stunna if you are reading this i can send you a signed msg from both my btc addresses associated with my Zedicus account!


Please dont let this thief profit from stealing my account!!

 






Well I can confirm that the signed message I received via PM comes from the address he's listed in the cached version of his post. Hence, I can say with almost full confidence that bayuo is in fact the real owner.

@bayuo: I would advise you send theymos a PM with all the information he's requested as stated here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovering-hacked-accounts-or-accounts-with-lost-passwords-497545

Please do so in a single PM. If he doesn't respond in a couple of days - send it once more, he does occasionally miss some PMs. I've already PM'ed Stunna so hopefully the hacker won't get any profit from this venture.


Thanks again for confirming!!


Hopefully Coinhoarder will Chime  in too when he gets my signed PM!! Relnarien too!!!!!!
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August 16, 2014, 09:02:55 AM
#31
^^ I can easily proove its my account. What i need is to get the attention of a mod so they can disable the account until my proof is confirmed and the account is recovered.  

If you can prove it's your account please do so. I'm not exactly sure what disabling the account will do - anyway regardless, the most a mod could do for you is to ban the account in question for a period of time.

It looks like this user is trying to steal an account with zero proof of anything. If he had signed a message then theymos would have reset the password email for him so he can reset his password.

This is a new low for scammers.

I must say, given that the style of writing of your account has shifted a lot since (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zedicus-87896) I would consider you rather suspicious. Any explanation for that?
I do not have an explanation that I am willing to share publicly, however I do have timing and blockchain proof that I do in fact own this account that I am willing to share with theymos or any other global moderator that asks. I could also give proof to a very trusted member of this forum subject to my desecration however they would likely need to be on an escrow list and even then it would not be everyone that meets this criteria (I have no way of proving it to them but can give an explanation - I do have the ability to prove that I own this account to a global moderator as I can give them PM #s that show proof).

EDIT: I think there is a good reason that Theymos has not reset the email for this person (AFAIK this is not something he does publicly but if he had received a signed message and looked into the account he would likely see the evidence himself). 

EDIT: (separate issue - same edit) I had sent bayuo a PM over 7 hours ago, asking him what he is doing and have not received a response as of yet.

Theymos and now BadBear may compare the IP range of the current owner with the IP range of the owner 2 years back. The same IP range may get compared to the IP range of the new claimant for independent verification.

p.s. There are downsides of this if any of the claimants demand that they have used TOR.

So expanding on that. It's probably a good idea to login at least a few times with your real ip address? Can we get any conformation from staff if they check ip logs in case of hacked accounts.
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August 16, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
#30
^^ I can easily proove its my account. What i need is to get the attention of a mod so they can disable the account until my proof is confirmed and the account is recovered.  

If you can prove it's your account please do so. I'm not exactly sure what disabling the account will do - anyway regardless, the most a mod could do for you is to ban the account in question for a period of time.

It looks like this user is trying to steal an account with zero proof of anything. If he had signed a message then theymos would have reset the password email for him so he can reset his password.

This is a new low for scammers.

I must say, given that the style of writing of your account has shifted a lot since (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zedicus-87896) I would consider you rather suspicious. Any explanation for that?
I do not have an explanation that I am willing to share publicly, however I do have timing and blockchain proof that I do in fact own this account that I am willing to share with theymos or any other global moderator that asks. I could also give proof to a very trusted member of this forum subject to my desecration however they would likely need to be on an escrow list and even then it would not be everyone that meets this criteria (I have no way of proving it to them but can give an explanation - I do have the ability to prove that I own this account to a global moderator as I can give them PM #s that show proof).

EDIT: I think there is a good reason that Theymos has not reset the email for this person (AFAIK this is not something he does publicly but if he had received a signed message and looked into the account he would likely see the evidence himself). 

EDIT: (separate issue - same edit) I had sent bayuo a PM over 7 hours ago, asking him what he is doing and have not received a response as of yet.

Theymos and now BadBear may compare the IP range of the current owner with the IP range of the owner 2 years back. The same IP range may get compared to the IP range of the new claimant for independent verification.

p.s. There are downsides of this if any of the claimants demand that they have used TOR.
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August 16, 2014, 08:38:03 AM
#29
^^ I can easily proove its my account. What i need is to get the attention of a mod so they can disable the account until my proof is confirmed and the account is recovered.  

If you can prove it's your account please do so. I'm not exactly sure what disabling the account will do - anyway regardless, the most a mod could do for you is to ban the account in question for a period of time.

It looks like this user is trying to steal an account with zero proof of anything. If he had signed a message then theymos would have reset the password email for him so he can reset his password.

This is a new low for scammers.

I must say, given that the style of writing of your account has shifted a lot since (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zedicus-87896) I would consider you rather suspicious. Any explanation for that?
I do not have an explanation that I am willing to share publicly, however I do have timing and blockchain proof that I do in fact own this account that I am willing to share with theymos or any other global moderator that asks. I could also give proof to a very trusted member of this forum subject to my desecration however they would likely need to be on an escrow list and even then it would not be everyone that meets this criteria (I have no way of proving it to them but can give an explanation - I do have the ability to prove that I own this account to a global moderator as I can give them PM #s that show proof).

EDIT: I think there is a good reason that Theymos has not reset the email for this person (AFAIK this is not something he does publicly but if he had received a signed message and looked into the account he would likely see the evidence himself). 

EDIT: (separate issue - same edit) I had sent bayuo a PM over 7 hours ago, asking him what he is doing and have not received a response as of yet.
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August 16, 2014, 08:30:04 AM
#28
after around 100 signed messages to theymos in a period of more than 3 months without reaction/action, i can say, i know what i am talking about...

 Sad

but if he gets his account back, i am interrested in the trick to recover my account too
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August 16, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
#27
your account was hacked?
i am sorry for that.

first of all. realize that your old account is gone and never ever will return t your controll. that is fact.
do not pay any ransom
make a new account and live with that.
no one will restore your old account. to be safe let the old account freezed by a mod. that is all what you can do.

btw
i lost my hero account a few months ago.

regards
pazor

No, stop misleading people. Hacked accounts can be recovered, if you'd even bothered to read this thread, you would find that there are 2 methods of recovering the account. He can perfectly get his account back now that he proved his Deity.
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August 16, 2014, 08:18:57 AM
#26
your account was hacked?
i am sorry for that.

first of all. realize that your old account is gone and never ever will return to your controll. that is fact.
do not pay any ransom
make a new account and live with that.
no one will restore your old account. to be safe let the old account freezed by a mod. that is all what you can do.

btw
i lost my hero account a few months ago.

regards
pazor
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August 16, 2014, 08:07:16 AM
#25
When you get your account back send a personal message to  the people who gave negative trust on the account.

From the conversations above it seems that the account really got stolen (not Hacked ~ Hackers dont steal).

As I can see, there is no -ve on this account => https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zedicus-87896. I guess no trusted member has left -ve on it.

There are some untrusted feedback on there and if that was my account I would want that removed when I got my account back.
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