Topic: Account Hacked Help Plz! - page 4. (Read 15002 times)

You are "Quickseller"!!! & You are the only one lying! 

 I asked Quickseller to prove he controlled my Zedicus Account and on the 20th i got a PM from YOU via the Zedicus account telling me to pm you "via your Quickseller account"!! I got the pm and the mods can confirm it. You are a liar and a fraud in every sense of the word!






He is not an innocent victim! Its "Quickseller" himself!!  Quickseller "IS" running a hacked account laundering campaign!!








Themyos puts his pants on one leg at a time, If we put enough btc in front of him not only will he change the rules but he will do it with a smile on his face.

http://www.thewire.com/technology/2014/09/how-to-check-if-you-were-exposed-by-todays-5-million-password-leak/379960/

I forgot who said this but allowing accounts to be sold "indirectly condones scamming... actually it facilitates it"!

How long till Satoshis account here gets hacked .. or some other prominent member of this community!


The first thing that will happen if Satoshi's accounts gets hacked is we will demand a signed msg from satoshi to prove its him right!?

And if the account gets hacked and sold, The first thing we are going to ask the buyer of the stolen account is did you ask for a signed msg to prove it was satoshi you were talking to when you bought his account!! RIGHT???





 








You are a liar and a thief and if you were anything otherwise you would have asked the person who sold you my account for a signed msg from my btc address!!! When he couldnt provide one you would have known instantly it was not me and the account was hacked!

At this point im not sure if you are the actual thief who stole/hacked my account as well, But for sure you are the person controlling my Zedicus account and you are Quickseller as well!! That I know!!!
 
 You are unwillingly transparent and you have been outted and called out!

 




 






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To: light, Coinhoarder, Relnarien, Somekindabitcoin, MakeBelieve, pazor_true, Lucky Cris, Muhammed Zakir, ABitNut, peligro, moreia, $username, and last but definitely not least Tomatocage!!


Thank you so much for your participation in this thread! All i ever wanted was mods or anyone to look at the situation objectively and whether or not i agreed with any of you, your participation has been monumental in exposing Quickseller who is indeed controlling my "Zedicus" account and is without a shadow of a doubt a scammer,  a liar, a con and a possible thief as well!!

The only person i knew in this thread before this fiasco was Coinhoarder since we did a 14btc transaction on a group buy but the rest of you who took it upon yourself to leave negative feedback and stand up for what you think is right, i will be forever in debt! I asked nothing but for someone to hear my story and you guys responded in unbelievable fashion!



Some of you like "Relnarien" & "Light" who took one look at my "Zedicus" account history and knew immediately what was up .. Thanks so much for your effort! Tho Stunna didnt repsond, your efforts will not be forgotten!!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8378994

Bingo. Now he's trying to play it off like the OP is running a scam. Hey Quickseller, why don't you log into your previous account anymore? Is it because it has negative trust?

It may seem easier to implement such a thing like banning account trading but it isn't. There are many problems behind it. And if the trading was done in a secret way, how can theymos know the account has been traded? Looking the way he/she writes? It isn't a good proof although we can tell the account has been traded. Every buyer knows it can be retrieved. But theymos mostly avoid retrieval of account which has been traded.

  ~~MZ~~

Even if a post of selling/buying account isn't there, that doesn't mean buying and selling isn't done, they can always contact through PM or any other forum or any Social Messenger.


Banning of account trading is futile. A script for that can't be made, I can assure you. Only way to do that, is making Geo-locking, i.e, preventing a user from entering the account from another place other than place from where he registered. Making that option is definitely a huge disadvantage.


Both theymos and BadBear haven't got enough proof retrieval of the account. theymos has already told that he wouldn't respond to any of the PM from the person who fails to provide the proof in the first PM. So I think, theymos is avoiding bayuo's PMs as he couldn't give the proof. AND, how is hilariousandco protecting the buyer? He is telling it is easy to retrieve accounts, that means seller has more advantage AND you're telling 'providing protection to the buyer'? . I believe you understand why this Buy/Sell account can't be banned.

  ~~MZ~~

Buyers should already be aware that accounts can be retrieved and if they're not then it's their own problem. I'm not going about it the wrong way, I'm going by about how the policy is here. If you want to change the forum's policy on account selling start a thread or petition theymos about it and make your case, but it's been attempted many times before and theymos and the other staff have given roughly the same answers as I'm giving you now.

If account trading was banned the situation would have been easy. You see the difference?

If a buyer knew that the seller can easily get it back, the market will reduce. That will decrease hacking too. You are going about handling the problem the wrong way.

It wont stop just because you say it will. Theymos probably has better things to do than deal with the fuss of returning accounts and can be quite lax on returning them, not to mention this situation isn't as easy as giving the original owner their account back because it looks like it quite possibly shouldn't be returned to him. Whether account selling is or isn't allowed it won't stop and situations like this will always happen. 2-factor is desperately needed though and hopefully that will cut most hackings down when it arrives with the new forum.

Why hasn't it retrieved yet in this case, then?

If you ban this and strictly return accounts once they are proven selling will mostly stop. You're providing protection to the buyer which makes it possible in the first place.

No it's not. You can't stop people selling accounts just as you can't stop people from scamming. It's also already easy to retrieve accounts and there's nothing to stop people from selling an account and then trying to get it back as we can see from this exact thread.

Thats a very poor excuse. Just make it easy to retrieve account. If that happens then account trading won't happen as buyers will be wary of their accounts getting repossessed.

Don't assume that then. Even if account selling was banned it would still go on but behind the scenes and just push the business of doing it even further underground, and it's for this reason that it's allowed so people know it goes on and can be weary. Don't just blindly trust people because they are a certain rank or have a little bit of feedback.

He said he bought it, and was probably told that Quickseller was an intermediary. He bought this for signature campaign, and has already earned at least 0.2 BTC.

Account trading should be banned. If I see a Hero or Legendary member posting I assume it has some weight. It won't be if I am thinking this may have been some scammer buying accounts.

Thanks for the info. Can I ask you something? Did you buy this account? I think you bought the account with 1.1BTC, he told you are a hacker and he want's the account. Now you are asking 1.1BTC back and you will give his account back. This is what happening here? I am confused. Or what I said above was totally bullshit?

  ~~MZ~~

Just letting everyone know that I am requesting a refund from Quickseller as he has breached the conditions of the sale. It will be up to him with what he does with the account. I don't care who is lying, I just want my money back. 

I'll keep everyone updated.

Of course not. I speculate that Quickseller may be running a hacked account laundering campaign, and the current controller of Zedicus is either an innocent victim or the hacker (or connected with the hacker).

The only thing I cared about is my real account. This account was created specifically to talk smack and get in flame wars But now you're just steering this thread off topic intentionally. Wonder why that could be...

Sorry to tell but donating BTC will not make Theymos to change any rules. For changing rules, post in 'Meta' board and get maximum supporters for the rule but still the chances are less. If Theymos think the rule isn't good enough, he will not apply it. Anyway, you can give it a try. I saw people posting that you sold your account for BTC. Is it true? Just want to know.

  ~~MZ~~

You are absolutely wasting your time if you think im going to give you btc Quickseller! The only way im giving any btc in this situation would be to donate some btc to bitcointalk in hopes of swaying Theymos for a rule change.

Then he could permanently disable my zedicus account. 

I think that would make it crystal who the scammer is?

Simply go to page 4 and see what evidence Quickseller presented. Here are my reasons why I think you are a scammer.

- You claim that your password was 36 characters, I don't think too many people would try that hard bruteforcing an account from last year. 36 characters would take a VERY long time. If your computer was hacked, why would the hacker target one of your forum accounts and leave EVERYTHING else on your computer. Unless you are going to come up with a story now that includes malicious files being detected on your computer?

- You haven't been willing at all to work with me. You just keep posting big childish letters everywhere and having a tantrum. If you are genuine about getting your account back, I suggest you start acting like it.

I bet you thought it would have been incredibly easy to pull this off. You must be pretty pissed off right now since your scam hasn't paid off. Although kudos for getting some forum members believing your story.

Like I said. If you want your account, show me that you are genuine.

First im sorry if i offended you or you took offense some how because of my choice of words. That said you are right im a bit sour that someone hacked my account, violated my privacy, put in danger people ive interacted with and then started and continues to impersonate me!!  YES!!! Im very sour about that, im a bit sour that not a single mod tried to even see what possibly happened. Im a bit sour that stunna stood by and did nothing too!


Im sorry if you think i have no reason to use expletives because i disagree!

and in society they say: "if everyone is thinking the same, then someone is not thinking!"


So its ok to disagree! That said there is no way Quickseller acted in good faith. Signing messages is what we have to identify ourselves and like i said since Quickseller is someone who routinely sells user accounts, it should be a very common conversation for him to have.

Like asking for ownership papers when you buy a car. Anyway i appreciate your input as thats why i posted this but  Remember the very first thing i said was "Account Hacked Help" "Plz"!  









You better go find Stunna and tell him you will work extra hard this week..(laughs) Then go come up with some more nonsense to fill bitcointalk with. Whats wrong you dont like my account anymore? Campaign got your tongue?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8739735



What happened to all that proof you were gonna show us?