Topic: Account Hacked Help Plz! - page 6. (Read 15016 times)

Thanks for letting us know that's a purchased account.

Yeah, there's a good chance that happened but hard to say for certain in these sort of situations. It would be quite an easy scam to sell your account then try recover it. Hero accounts go for around 1btc so it'd be an easy coin if pulled off. People never surprise me here. If they can try get some free money out of it they will.

There is compelling evidence to show that the OP sold this account and is now fraudently trying to restore it after receiving the payment. The negotiations took three days, the OP's account was created on the last day of negotiations after the deal was made.

The length people go to scam on this forum is incredible.

Was it signed up on PD before he claimed it was hacked or did the account sign up after?

Also the new "Zedicus" is pumping out posts like crazy. They have to make 400 posts a month, at BTC0.0012 per post. That is BTC0.48 per month.

If they bought it at BTC0.5 they will ROI pretty fast.

How to hack Bitcointalk accounts and keep them

1. Hack account.
2. Pretend to 'sell' your hacked account to someone else (that someone else being yourself, or a friend, etc)
3. When original account owner comes back and sends signed message for account restoration, claim that you legitimately bought the accoutn.
4. theymos doesn't restore the account back to the original owner
5. profit!

Account selling is allowed.
That they are enrolled in sig campaign doesn't mean they are hacked.
Reason why they are in sig campaign most likely that it makes account more worthy so the seller was wise and enrolled them in them to make them more valuable.
Sorry fo your account though.

   Its just beyond me at this point. The burden of proof has fallen on me and i have done my best to prove i am who i say i am and nothing has been done to corroborate the claims that my account was sold at all! Nothing has been shown to anyone about the said claims of my account being sold. All i got is some guy named "Quickseller" who claims i sold him my account when i did not!


I had a 36 character password on my account and unless i find out otherwise im leaning towards some sort of phishing that compromised my account. In fact common sense would tell you the guy named "Quickseller" is probably the owner of some phishing site and he sells the accounts that he steals here and the mods dont care and let him do it in plain site!!


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7964147


You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out and its plain as day that the mods dont care, ive msg'd mods 2-3 times and not a single reply! Its the equivalent of apple telling the owners of the accounts that were recently brute forced:  "Sorry, we are going to let the hackers keep your account", Its ridiculous. At least have the courtesy to look into the matter! If you run any-kind of community, you owe it to the users.
 


  



 

It is not that simple I am afraid, as it appears that the account was hacked and sold.

If you are the real Zedicus, I hope you will get your account back! PM theymos with your signed msg and proof. He will recover your account.

  ~~MZ~~

@ BitcoinExpress: Im sorry i dunno who vod 2 is..




@ Lucky Cris : I have no info regarding this event .. I dont have a time, date, blockchain transaction or anything. Just someone saying i sold him my account and he is not willing to divulge the information in public for reasons that are UNKNOWN!



I completely agree about the selling of accounts and how it condones scamming! 


I dont want anyone to be ripped off! If the guy who is in control of my account is a "victim" and was sold the stolen user account .. then returning the account to me would leave him with a negative balance!

That said i have even offered to pay what he paid for my account blindly! Meaning i dont even know what he paid for it! I cant even get a mod to do a simple check on the ip or check on the supposed transaction so i can at least hear it from a global moderator when the supposed event happened and for what price. A moderator would be able to see that my account logged in from a strange ip during the course of the supposed transaction. Like i said i have never logged into bitcointalk using some kind of masking service like tor or vpn or what not. Every time ive logged in into my account it has been from the same location since i created the account!! Same computer same isp ..

I would assume it wouldnt be too hard to see when a strange ip started using my account. 



Btw i so wholeheartedly agree that the selling of account condones scamming ... So much so that if theymos decided to change the rules this minute, i would be ok with that even if that meant i couldnt buy the account from Quickseller who was sold my account by someone who is NOT me!!!! --->>>  as long as they disable my ZEDICUS account so i cant be impersonated.

Like i mentioned above, if the guy who is controlling my zedicus account could send the proof to a global moderator of the supposed date, PM's and transaction .. ill pay what the scammer took from the current controller of my account -->>  "the supposed victim" who was sold my account.

and then mods can permanently DISABLE my Zedicus account!! 
 

If i cant have my account back at least disable it so i cant be impersonated anymore as that is putting everyone who ive had a positive experience with a bitcointalk at risk. Imagine if someone was PM'ing people as YOU!

Does that make any sense to anyone out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That said i have been transparent in every way that i could think of.. but it seems that may not be enough.


 

1) Have a signed message from the original controller stating the account is being sold (dated, with forum names)
2) Once dealer has control of the account they should tag it with either a Bitcoin address they control or a pgp signature
3) Repeat 1): Dealer signs a message that he is selling the account to buyer.

It doesn't matter how many times it is sold. It seems like common sense to me. It's fairly easy to do and it makes it very hard to dispute a sale.

Note I used "controller" instead of owner. It would still be possible for a criminal to gain control of both the forum account and the BTC address/pgp linked to it. But it is far more challenging than merely breaking a (potentially) weak forum password.

But then how is the account buyer able to verify the account seller is not a hacker?

BTW, we need the 2FA fuction badly (I know it will be there in the new forum).

My thoughts exactly. Let's see the PMs relating to the sale of this account. If you refuse... It'll lead me to believe that you somehow knew this was a compromised account being sold.

oh - here's my disclaimer: Personally, I don't like the selling of accounts. It indirectly condones scamming... actually it facilitates them. 

Are you vod2 by any chance?


~BCX~

No! I still dont have access to my account! Im the sole owner and creator of the zedicus account and the current operator claims he has a PM of "me" supposedly selling him account...  But i cant even get a moderator to do an ip check of the supposed transaction of which i dont have a date time or tx of anykind!

I havent gotten any help from a mod whatsoever!!

 Ive PM'd Theymos twice and ive pm'd Badbear asking him to do an ip check of the supposed transaction and pm that the current operator of the zedicus account says he has!
 

This really sucks!! 
 







Negative!! Its impossible!! If mods look through my account history before this post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7798338

They would see ive never sold anything in the market place EVER! i dont hangout there, i dont post there nothing!!!!


When i last had my account i was hanging out in an alt coin thread called MNR..
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-mjollnircoin-mnr-ultra-secure-fast-transactions-asic-resistant-577437

I had been hanging out there quite a bit!

So the claim is that the Zedicus account was stolen and sold. Bayou owned the account in the past. There is no proof that the account was stolen. There is no proof that Bayou sold it.

Sounds like a stalemate.


In my opinion account buyers (that means you, Quickseller, as well as whoever bought it from you) should ensure ownership of the account before buying it. It is something they can do. It is something they should do to prevent situations like this.

Can you, Quickseller, proof that the person you bought it from actually owned it?

Any update to this... has OP gotten his account back?

Definitely not my fault!! Ive been totally blindsided here..









Thats exactly what happened ! Someone stole my account and then pretended to be me when he sold it to this "quickseller"!   ( unless quickseller is the thief as well )

At this point its so blatant its unbelievable!!! Ive signed both btc addresses associated with my account, im trying to be as transparent as possible, heck i just invited the guy to an open public conversation with the mods and public!!



Clearly he knows im NOT the guy who sold him my "zedicus" account. Why else would he not be part of the dialog here.  


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


why would you do that to someone? ? ? ! You have taken over my identity here and you are impersonating me in every sense of the word. Ive pored years into my account and suddenly i have 0 access to all the relationships ive built, all the threads i had on watch and i have been muted from a community i have positively engaged with for years!  


 If you are remotely a stand up guy you would have this conversation here!

 You are either a standup guy or you are a crook. There is no in-between!  
 


Im open and transparently trying to shed light on the events that led to my account being stolen and sold. The only reason NOT to have this conversation is if you KNOW or KNEW you were purchasing stolen property from someone who wasnt me! Possession of stolen property doesn't make it yours!


At this point i have no record of sale, no proof of the account actually even being sold!
(Quickseller actually thinks "i" sold him the account!!! Im completely in the dark here!!!  )


The burden of proof has for some reason landed only on me and i have complied in every way and proved that i am the account owner.

I'd say that it accurate. Screw the people selling accounts.. let them rot in negative trust hell. It is not Zedicus' fault that the hacker sold his account, and he should not be punished for it. Maybe this will help teach people a lesson not to buy and sell accounts.

Give Zedicus back his account!!